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This IP , whom you recently blocked for being a sock of indef blocked ], has been giving out barnstars to encourage his fellow nationals . Is this acceptable? The way I see it, as Lceliku was indefed for TOV, he shouldn't be allowed to go around evading his block and giving out barnstars or making any other kinds of edits. Otherwise we are encouraging the block evasion. Thanks, ] (]) 21:25, 25 January 2010 (UTC) This IP , whom you recently blocked for being a sock of indef blocked ], has been giving out barnstars to encourage his fellow nationals . Is this acceptable? The way I see it, as Lceliku was indefed for TOV, he shouldn't be allowed to go around evading his block and giving out barnstars or making any other kinds of edits. Otherwise we are encouraging the block evasion. Thanks, ] (]) 21:25, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

:The IP above mentioned gave me a barnstar and after that was deemed a SUSPECTED sock of ] and blocked for two weeks. There is no proof that this user IS Lceliku, in addition he got blocked after he gave the barnstar. I accepted the barnstar even though ] tried to revert my user page and discussion page breaking the 3RR rule through these edits: and . I think it's in my right to accept a barnstar from a user who has not been blocked yet, and also report who trolls my user page and talk page, i.e. Athenean.] (]) --Sulmues 21:31, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

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User:PasswordUsername

Hi there. I see that you deleted this userpage as a U1, before restoring it. I had earlier declined the speedy as I wasn't confident of the link between the two users. It was then brought to my attention on my talk page that there is an ongoing ArbCom case, WP:EEML, in which both User:PasswordUsername and User:Anti-Nationalist are listed as involved parties. I've offered to watch the page to see that it isn't vandalised in the interim, which is how I saw your involvement. I just thought I'd bring this to your attention as well, in case you didn't know. Cheers! GedUK  09:17, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Ah, hm. I hadn't been aware this was under public discussion. Generally happy to abide by consensus on the matter. I did figure playing it safe was the right way to go; I prefer to take users' privacy concerns at face value, unless there's a clear reason to suspect foul play, and I figured arbcom shouldn't have any trouble referring to the deleted revisions, if they're needed. Some tangentially related revisions have also been oversighted, though those can also be accessed if needed. The number of casual name drops seems problematic, given the user's expressed wish to avoid them. – Luna Santin (talk) 09:52, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
In particular, I'm taking the link between the users at face value (it seems to be generally accepted?); if that's not the case, I may need to eat my hat. – Luna Santin (talk) 10:01, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
As far as I know, there is no reason to think they aren't the same person. Maybe I should have AGFed, but deleting a userpage seemed rather overkill, a simple redirect would probably do. I didn't realise there was oversighting involved, which might explain the reasoning. I didn't know about the ArbCom issue at all at the time I declined the speedy, and whilst obviously ArbCom could see the deleted pages, I personally think that we don't want to fan the flames by deleting pages that may be under discussion. Anyway, for now, I'm quite prepared to leave it to ArbCom, and whatever your judgement is. GedUK  10:30, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Additional information needed on Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Logicus

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User Redking7 still requesting unblock

Hello Luna. On Sep. 18 you re-enabled editing for indef-blocked user Redking7. Could you take a look at his talk page and see if you are inclined to either lift the block, or restore the talk page protection? I don't perceive any forward movement. (He seems unconvinced that he did anything wrong). Regarding the new sockpuppetry dating from November 4, he says "After I was banned, I had no choice." He did spend an entire year being very stubborn on the issue of the Taiwan consulates and apparently resisting all advice. If he is ever going to change his attitude, I don't expect a quick learning curve. EdJohnston (talk) 23:48, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

70.241.118.59 is still anon vandal

70.241.118.59 was blocked for 31 hours by you back in October 2008. For the past six months (May to November 2009) it has still been used only as an anonymous vandal. I believe it should be blocked again, for a longer time -- maybe 31 months instead of 31 hours. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eldin raigmore (talk • contribs) 20:41, 8 November 2009 (UTC) --Eldin raigmore (talk) 20:51, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to take so long replying, looks like I missed this thread. Taking another look at this, I agree they've been up to no good. With only one recent edit, though, I'm not sure if I'd feel right blocking, just yet. I'll try to keep an eye on them, though, and would certainly be willing to consider blocking if they keep up their unfortunate behavior. Thanks for the heads up! – Luna Santin (talk) 07:12, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

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Canvassing thread

Luna, I'm having trouble reconciling your comment here with the rest of the thread. The only engagement from DaleJenkins was during the previous incident, back in August. During this one, he contacted all the participants that had !voted delete in the previous discussion. I do not see this as a misunderstanding. If you think no action is necessary, then that's fine, but I want to make sure we're all on the same page as to the facts.--chaser (talk) 09:44, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

When I can manage it, I try to put a lot of stock in orienting people to our practices before hitting them over the head with clue-by-fours; I'm assuming here that the user is unfamiliar with Wikipedian expectations about notifying discussion participants. In real-world politics, it's commonplace to notify "your" side only -- think of political newsletters, and so on. That the practice is generally unwelcome in this community might come as a surprise to someone who's more experienced in other scenarios. I don't see much risk assuming good faith, here, either, since people generally appreciate it and the number of times such faith can reasonably be extended is pretty low, once best practices are explained. I should mention that I agree with the actions I've observed, here: notifying other users, remarking on the discussion, and working to educate regarding community expectations.

All of that is, of course, just my take on things. – Luna Santin (talk) 10:19, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi, in view of the additional details provided since your initial scrutiny, and as no further admin. has yet commented, would you be able to take a further look at this? Leaky Caldron 22:20, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Hmm... thanks for keeping me informed of newer developments. – Luna Santin (talk) 01:29, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Appreciation

Hi, your comments at ANI regarding my actions are appreciated, over and above my own personal interests I aim to have the interests of the Misplaced Pages as a priority, best regards to you from Off2riorob (talk) 14:38, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

One more chance to apply lessons from meatball:DefendEachOther. ;) Glad I could help. – Luna Santin (talk) 04:06, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry

Special:Contributions/Fäkalienharald_beim_Onanieren! and Special:Contributions/Für_eine_Enziklopädie_ohne_Entlínkt Can you look into it? Thanks, Enigma 23:03, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Also User:Fäkalienharald scheisst flüssig! and User:Fäkalienharald beim Wixen!, already blocked. I'll poke around a bit more, and will report back if I find anything interesting. – Luna Santin (talk) 04:12, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Crappon

Thank you kindly for the unblock. Rest assured I have no particular interest in discussing any member of the Gyllenhaal family nor Madonna in the near future. Crappon (talk) 11:17, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Glad we got that one cleared up! Feel free to check out our introduction for newcomers to learn more about contributing on Misplaced Pages, if you like. – Luna Santin (talk) 04:12, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Assistance Requested

Hello again. I believe that I am being dragged into an edit war at Great power and I really don't wish to be in this situation. The argument has been going on and off of the main article and back to the talk page for the past few months and it has restarted on the article again. The crux of the issue is this. Should an image of the G8 members be inserted into the article. Those wanting the addition wish so because it shows economic power & status. Those against (including myself) don't wish its inclusion because there are no academic sources stating that being in the G8 makes one a Great Power. If you do not wish to be involved in this article (again) I understand, but please let me know :-) Thanks -- Phoenix (talk) 02:14, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

I'll try to get to this by the weekend. Sorry to take so long. x.x – Luna Santin (talk) 07:19, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi Luna, I'd like to echo what Phoenix has stated. At first we thought that User:Lear 21 and User:KJohansson were just a little recalcitrant with strong opinions but after months of pushing a POV it's pretty clear that their behavior is extremely disruptive. If you have a look at the edit history and talk archive, you can see that they've repeatedly tried to disrupt to make a point, engaged in repeated personal attacks, edit warring, been incivil. I even requested and got page protection for a while to cool things down but that doesn't seem to have worked. I know you're busy right now but we'd appreciate it if you get to if whenever you have time. Nirvana888 (talk) 19:04, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

69.114.165.104 returned

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You gave this a week block due to {{checkuser}}. Week expired, problem reoccured, I reblocked. Are there other accounts that need (re)blocking per this CU trail? DMacks (talk) 07:08, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 07:12, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up. I'd recommend changing that to a hardblock (ie: uncheck "Block anonymous users only") unless a certain someone gives us pretty solid reason to think that won't be necessary. – Luna Santin (talk) 07:19, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
If you're going to hardblock my IP for awhile, I would suggest putting an explanatory note on the user and talk page of my main account. People still try to contact me there from time to time.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 07:20, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
I have no idea any of the back-story of who's who doing what, but I gotta drop off-line now. Feel free to tighten up the block. DMacks (talk) 07:24, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

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You've got mail!

Just so's you know. Steve Smith (talk) 23:52, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Replied by email. Sorry to keep you waiting. – Luna Santin (talk) 20:26, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Right back at you. Steve Smith (talk) 09:23, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

What's your deal, LS? Why won't you respond to my emails?--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 20:25, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

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Courtesy notice

I have unblocked 69.114.165.104 (talk) (a sock of User:The Fat Man Who Never Came Back that you had blocked) in response to this AN thread. Would have consulted you prior to the unblock if you had not been on wikibreak. Hope you are enjoying your time in the real world! Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 04:25, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Understood, and thanks for the notice. I'm a touch perturbed that a {{checkuserblock}} seems to have been overturned without consulting a checkuser (not necessarily me), but it's not an argument I'm inclined to get into on this one. I did respond to a few emails about this, previously, but I apologize for not being more available. – Luna Santin (talk) 22:49, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

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userboxes

do you know of any way to organize userboxes on a user page? I have tons on my page but I cant find a way to organize them.RIVER 22:59, 12 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rio44 (talk • contribs)

 Done Let me know if you need anything else. @Kate (parlez) 23:12, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks you are awesome!!!--RIVER 22:57, 15 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rio44 (talk • contribs)

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Sockpuppetry

Special:Contributions/Favonian_is_a_bastard! and the assorted pages it was editing. Can you check for any other socks, and then let me know what the master account should be? I can then tag the userpages.

Also, I sent you an unrelated e-mail a few days ago. Enigma 16:45, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

bump. Enigma 19:02, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Ah, sorry to take so long replying. Just found it. – Luna Santin (talk) 00:35, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

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Season's greetings

Thank you for being one of the people who has made 2009 such an interesting and enlightening year for me. It has certainly had its challenges, but also many highlights. I wish you peace and contentment in 2010, and a joyous holiday season to you and yours.


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Best, Risker (talk) 02:59, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

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Happy New Year

Best Wishes for 2010, FloNight♥♥♥♥ 13:09, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

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Crazy Horse

I could have sworn I pressed the first undo button... Anyway, thanks for catching that. :S Invinciblechampion (talk) 01:06, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

No problem! It's easy enough to miss those sorts of things. Thanks for your help! :) – Luna Santin (talk) 01:10, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Since you're an admin, perhaps you can help me. I made this account four years and some months ago, and I don't really like the name... I'd like to get it changed to VirEximius, however I don't know if this is allowed (that is Super Man in Latin, I'm not sure if that breaks policy or anything.) Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated, and I hope to be more active on wikipedia. Invinciblechampion (talk) 01:58, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
That's quite a long tenure, indeed. Doesn't look like the username "VirEximius" is taken, so you can probably get that changed at Misplaced Pages:Changing username. – Luna Santin (talk) 03:13, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the barnstar! :D Is it just me or is there an abnormally large amount of vandalism today? --Brandon5485 01:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Glad I could do that for you. :) As far as vandalism goes, there's always tons. Goes with the scale of the wiki, unfortunately. I suppose schools with longer Winter vacations are getting back into session, if they're not already in full swing, which tends to bring in a bit more. – Luna Santin (talk) 01:18, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Just stopping by to say...

RUM. 98.220.129.79 (talk) 23:39, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

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Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Tombaker321

Hi Luna, thanks for carrying out the check on this case, just searching for a bit of clarification; did you purposely decline to check Love dance of scorpions (talk · contribs), and check PeshawarPat (talk · contribs) instead (which is fine), or did you misunderstand what I wrote in the endorsement (namely that Love dance of scorpions should be checked, but that PeshawarPat should not)? Either way's fine, just wanted to clear this up. Kindest regards, Spitfire 12:07, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

LDOS I specifically declined (though I'm open to second opinions), but PP showed up in some of my early checks of other users and so seemed to warrant a further look regardless. – Luna Santin (talk) 22:59, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Ah I see, no problem then. Kind regards, Spitfire 08:36, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
I have given my feedback concerning the lack of substantiation for the requested checkuser, from an editor with a long sheet of interactions with myself. Since the checkuser was committed to, I have no concerns about its going further in examination. That said I believe this case should now be closed, but is stuck in the wrong queue. --Tombaker321 (talk) 10:34, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Archiving OR noticeboard

I see you archived the request for information about the original research policy as it relates to WrestleMania 23. I did not receive an answer from anybody regarding original research, so the archival was not helpful. If one is not allowed to ask at the OR noticeboard, where does one get an outside opinion specifically about accusations of original research? GaryColemanFan (talk) 22:58, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Threatening IP

Hi Luna. A bit concerned about the implied threat here. Looks clear this IP has no intention of contributing constructively. Anything you can do? Best. RashersTierney (talk) 01:22, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Alls well. Sorted by User:Ckatz. RashersTierney (talk) 01:49, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

PoV problem at “Austrian School”

Over at “Austrian School”, we have a couple of editors trying to have a criticism presented in non-neutral language:

I carefully explained the problem after the edit by Lawrence Khoo and before the edit by BigK HeX, using three sorts of statements:

There is, of course, a difference between identifying an actual feature and asserting that the feature is bad, and merely claiming that a bad feature is had. Consider these three claims:

  • One criticism was that Gerald Ford had pardoned Richard Nixon.
  • One criticism was that Pete Seeger was a communist agent.
  • One criticism was that Pete Seeger was ostensibly a communist agent.

The first is of course a plain fact; whether one agreed with Ford or not, he was criticized for something that he clearly did. The third is also a plain fact; whether Seeger was a communist stooge or not, he was criticized as if he were one. It's the second that's problematic. It looks like the a criticism of the first form, implying that Seeger were a stooge and were criticized for it.

There was no response other than the reversion by BigK HeX. —SlamDiego←T 17:17, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

I've also posted at the NPoV Noticeboard. —SlamDiego←T 17:24, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Block-evading IP of indef blocked users going around giving out barnstars

This IP , whom you recently blocked for being a sock of indef blocked User:Lceliku, has been giving out barnstars to encourage his fellow nationals . Is this acceptable? The way I see it, as Lceliku was indefed for TOV, he shouldn't be allowed to go around evading his block and giving out barnstars or making any other kinds of edits. Otherwise we are encouraging the block evasion. Thanks, Athenean (talk) 21:25, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

The IP above mentioned gave me a barnstar and after that was deemed a SUSPECTED sock of Lceliku and blocked for two weeks. There is no proof that this user IS Lceliku, in addition he got blocked after he gave the barnstar. I accepted the barnstar even though Athenean tried to revert my user page and discussion page breaking the 3RR rule through these edits: and . I think it's in my right to accept a barnstar from a user who has not been blocked yet, and also report who trolls my user page and talk page, i.e. Athenean.sulmues (talk) --Sulmues 21:31, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
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