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	:My family uses 3 or more computers interchangeably, each of us has ONE name and password, edits his/hers own comments, often knowes what each of us wrote and we sometimes disagree. Where is the problem? Are the FYROM nationalists getting nervous?] (]) 20:47, 1 February 2010 (UTC)		:My family uses 3 or more computers interchangeably, each of us has ONE name and password, edits his/hers own comments, often knowes what each of us wrote and we sometimes disagree. Where is the problem? Are the FYROM nationalists getting nervous?] (]) 20:47, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

			:: I saw this too!! Do somebody want to forbid me to take part on Misplaced Pages just because my father is already on Misplaced Pages? Or what? Do I have to tell you that this is my father? Is this freedom of speech? He is not my father and I do not know who this is. Full stop! To order me to disagree with my father? To tell me what to think and to write? Is this kind of Police or what? Nazi behavior does not suit to these pages. Can somebody stop these FYROM "Macedonians" from polluting Misplaced Pages, please.] (]) 10:06, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

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Draganparis

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For archived investigations, see Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Draganparis/Archive.

Report date January 31 2010, 19:56 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

Herodotus1A (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

Evidence submitted by Antipastor (talk)

The sock appeared to edit Alexander the Great and comment against another editor who was debating with Draganparis, in Talk:Alexander_the_Great, to help advance his opinion. Looking at their edits, I think this pattern has occurred before in other content disputes (see below).

Herodotus1A seems to be an obvious sockpuppet, because of the definition of the term "Googwik", by both. For example, by Herodotus1A: (in "reply" to Draganparis in Talk:Kosovo, defining "Googwik" and supporting his position) and ; by Draganparis: and , among other occurrences where he in turn defines "Googwik".

Additional (but circumstantial) evidence: Draganparis is pushing a POV concerning the words Hellenic/Greek in various articles. Herodotus1A has appeared to comment, focusing on the use of the same words and advancing the same opinion, eg Talk:Seleucid_Empire (see both accounts contributions on the page) in addition to Talk:Alexander_the_Great.

Both accounts indicate they are French and have also shown interest on the same Balkan related articles, such as Vranje. A duck test (note edit summary): and .

(checkuser might be useful to confirm the duck test evidence if there are doubts, but if not sockpuppetry this is a case of meatpuppetry) Antipastor (talk) 19:56, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties See Defending yourself against claims.

My family uses 3 or more computers interchangeably, each of us has ONE name and password, edits his/hers own comments, often knowes what each of us wrote and we sometimes disagree. Where is the problem? Are the FYROM nationalists getting nervous?Draganparis (talk) 20:47, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

I saw this too!! Do somebody want to forbid me to take part on Misplaced Pages just because my father is already on Misplaced Pages? Or what? Do I have to tell you that this is my father? Is this freedom of speech? He is not my father and I do not know who this is. Full stop! To order me to disagree with my father? To tell me what to think and to write? Is this kind of Police or what? Nazi behavior does not suit to these pages. Can somebody stop these FYROM "Macedonians" from polluting Misplaced Pages, please.Herodotus1A (talk) 10:06, 2 February 2010 (UTC)