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This template was considered for deletion on 2007 February 11. The result of the discussion was "keep".

Archives

Archive 1 Archive 2 Archive 3

Missing day of birth

I know the month and year that Tommy Arkesden was born, and I know the exact day that he died. However, if I leave out the day of birth from this template, it appears broken, and the {{death year and age}} template is useless to me as I have his exact date of death. How can I solve this problem? – PeeJay 12:29, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Calculate the age manually and enter that and the dates in raw text. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 08:07, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Calendar error

Death dates for persons born before the adoption of the Gregorian calendar will often be entered in the Julian calendar. This template will then link the displayed date, which will be rendered according to the preferences set by the reader (if any). Some readers will have selected the ISO-8601 format. Thus some readers will see a date, like January 7, 1502, with no statement or implication about the calendar, so the reader will have to read the article to determine the calendar. Other readers will see 1502-01-07, and "know" (perhaps mistakenly) that the date is in the proleptic Gregorian calendar. The formatting of dates also imposes date formatting in the rest of the article upon any editor who wishes to use this template for the sake of consistency, so this template can't be used in any article where the editors have a consensus against autoformatting. A specific article where this was a problem is Pope Pius V. --Gerry Ashton (talk) 18:10, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Categories

Is there a reason why this template (and others in the same family) doesn't add the pages on which it appears to the relevant "Category:YYYY births" and "Category:YYYY deaths" ? Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 08:02, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes. This template not just used in biographies but in articles about groups of people such as sports teams. See here. - PatLeahy (talk) 15:31, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks. Would it be worth mentioning that in the documentation, given that the question has arisen previously? Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 15:40, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Done. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 12:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Parameters

Are the 'year' / 'month' / 'day' parameters used for anything? They aren't included in the template documentation and if used in place of the numbered parameters they would actually use the same date for both birth and death... therefor always calculating death at age 0. Unless there is some undocumented purpose to these I think they should be removed. I already simplified the conditions from things like: {{{1|{{{year|{{{1}}}}}}}}} to {{{1|{{{year}}}}}}... the only difference between the two being that if BOTH values are unset the old method would evaluate to the TEXT {{{1}}} while the new method evaluates to {{{year}}}... both of which cause an error. If either the 1 or year parameter is set then the two strings evaluate exactly the same way. --CBD 11:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I went ahead and removed these parameters for now. If they are found to actually be used anywhere we can evaluate and document them if need be. The template is now much smaller. --CBD 19:12, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

BC / AD

What about people who were born in BC? And what about people born in BC who died in AD? — The Man in Question (gesprec) · (forðung) 07:18, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Use {{death-date and age}} -J JMesserly (talk) 20:03, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Abuse

After seeing this template abused one too many times, I have added a note to the usage instructions warning people not to use this template when the person's exact date of birth or death is disputed or unknown. Kaldari (talk) 18:55, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Error, sort of

For some reason, this now gives .0000000000000000 after the age. This needs to be fixed. :/ Octane 18.02.09 0524 (UTC)

Jeffs date of birth

Jeff Fehring was born on 21st April 1956 not 1955 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.208.64.186 (talk) 06:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

purge cache

{{editprotected}} No edit requested, please purge the cache because the template is not showing up in Category:Templates generating microformat date and age. Thanks -J JMesserly (talk) 20:02, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I did it, but you should be able to do this yourself in future by following . Regards. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:08, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Nope, that doesn't work for those of us that don't have a certain bit flag on our user accounts. Maybe because the purge imposes a server hit due the refresh of all pages using the template? Who knows. Anyway, could you also do too? Thanks. -J JMesserly (talk) 20:18, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

"Aged" is for wine and cheese. "Age" is for humans.

Whoever is responsible for creating this template that automatically generates the word "aged" followed by the age at death, should give some thought to changing it to "age". For example, 86 is the age of a person at death. The person was not aged for 86 years in a storage cellar, in most cases. I know this may seem strange to the new internet generation who mimic whatever the other illiterates are doing online, but "age" is the appropriate term for obituaries. If in doubt, check the AP journalist's style book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.6.125.76 (talk) 05:20, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree!Bugefun (talk) 00:50, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Editprotected request

{{Editprotected}} Please change "aged" to "age", per above discussion and corresponding discussion at Wikiproject Templates. Intelligentsium 00:02, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

See Template talk:Death date and age/Archive 1#Aged. — RockMFR 00:46, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, forgot to search archives. I'll try to be more thorough in the future. Intelligentsium 21:52, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Template: Death-date and age?

What is the relation of this template to the confusingly similarly worded, but much less used, Template:Death-date and age? I'm not confident enough about these templates to propose a merge myself, but don't like the fact they're worded so similarly without explanation of their relation. Dsp13 (talk) 16:58, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

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