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| ::::Civility, and moreso diplomacy, requires that you address other people in <u>their</u> preferred manner. Other people abide by your wishes, you abide by theirs. Very simple. ] (]) 01:28, 28 February 2010 (UTC) | ::::Civility, and moreso diplomacy, requires that you address other people in <u>their</u> preferred manner. Other people abide by your wishes, you abide by theirs. Very simple. ] (]) 01:28, 28 February 2010 (UTC) | ||
| :::::BS. "Civility" requires no such thing. And I note with interest that you've dropped the nonsense about how the UK considers addressing by a surname uncivil. As it seems I've run into a version of LhVU that is itching to use his block button, I'll add a "'''''Mr.'''''" before "Sidaway", but I will ''not'' be addressing him as "Tony", so if that's blockable, then block away. ]] 01:33, 28 February 2010 (UTC) | :::::BS. "Civility" requires no such thing. And I note with interest that you've dropped the nonsense about how the UK considers addressing by a surname uncivil. As it seems I've run into a version of LhVU that is itching to use his block button, I'll add a "'''''Mr.'''''" before "Sidaway", but I will ''not'' be addressing him as "Tony", so if that's blockable, then block away. ]] 01:33, 28 February 2010 (UTC) | ||
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| Yes, the way we address one another matters. You've chosen to be called "Unit Anode" but that is an obvious pseudonym, and more recently you've identified yourself as "Scott". I started at Misplaced Pages with an anonymoua username "Minority Report" but quickly changed to "Tony Sidaway", my real life name. | |||
| Simple human honesty, respect and mutual dignity means that I willl address you as you wish and you will address me as I wish. We're colleagues in constructing this encyclopedia. If you don't think of me as a friend, at least I'm not an enemy. You can, and should, refer to me as Tony. If you must refer to me by my surname, of course you would want to refer to me as "Mr Sidaway". You surely cannot be aware of how rude it is to refer to someone by his unadorned surname. --] 01:33, 28 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
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The discretion I use when deciding whether or not to place a PROD tag on a BLP is simple: is it referenced? If not, I place a tag. If it's poorly referenced, I look a bit deeper, and either place the tag, or stub-ify. I never take much more than a minute or so, and I'm not going to research 50K+ unreferenced BLPs. The tagging has worked, as several of the articles are now being sourced. I'm not going to stop doing it, so I respectfully ask that any notifications that someone has removed the PROD (while adding references) leave out any lectures on that issue. It's not going to change.
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My votes in the last four presidential elections: Clinton, Bush, Bush, Obama. I do not have a bias for (or against) any political party.
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--GoRight (talk) 02:31, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
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Because that information was irrelevant to the article. You could ask me, you know, if you don't quite understand. I am quite reasonable if occasionally passionate. It might go towards having productive communications, which I think you might agree, is certainly warranted. --Moni3 (talk) 06:41, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Request
Please could you use the most polite forms of address when interacting within CC related talkspace? Use the version seen on the screen, unless you are going to go for the formal "full account name" if different, unless there is a history of casual naming between you and the other party. Cheers, and please remove this message when read - as you wish. LessHeard vanU (talk) 00:58, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- Normal people, when addressing someone who has made no secret of their full name, often refer to that person by their last name. I'm unclear why this is a problem. Sidaway even said something about calling him "Tony", so calling him "TS" seems a bit nonsensical. Referring to him as "Sidaway" isn't in any way an insult, it just fails to give a false familiarity and warmth to our on-wiki relationship. Unless it's in some way a violation of policy, I think I'll continue to refer to him by his well-known surname. Scottaka UnitAnode 01:02, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- I am upping the above to a warning, following your response to Tony Sidaway and your comments here; you will refer to editors under either their preferred variant or their account name, especially when requested to do so. UK editors, of which I am one, may consider use of a surname to be incivil. Failure to do so, following this notice, will attract sanctions. LessHeard vanU (talk) 01:07, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- Jeez, get real. It was commonplace at my school to be called by your surname, and I've been called "Fatuorum" on here repeatedly and fairly recently. Didn't bother me in the slightest, and I'm from the UK. Looks to me like you're just spoiling for a fight. --Malleus Fatuorum 01:10, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- What MF said. Blocking someone for referring to another editor by their surname? Seriously? He's not my friend, and I won't pretend he is by calling him "Tony." I have to admit, I'm a bit shocked by your antagonism over something as simple as calling a well-known editor by his own surname. How the hell am I supposed to know that UK etiquette says that's uncivil? Perhaps you could have simply said, "Hey, Scott, we on this side of the pond can take it wrong when a surname is used as a form of address", instead of "upping the above to a warning." All that doing that accomplishes is escalation, over an issue that is not an issue. He's not my friend, and I won't pretend he is. Now, why don't you go look into Nigelj's violation of 1RR instead of looking to "sanction" me for a non-issue. Good grief. Scottaka UnitAnode 01:12, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- It isn't even a UK issue. In fact using someone's first name unless they're known to you would be considered at least as "uncivil". A stranger would be expected to ask permission to address someone by their first name in polite society. Not that wikipedia is in any way a polite society of course, more of a bear-baiting arena. --Malleus Fatuorum 01:19, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- So, what the hell is LhVU's problem, then? I was, frankly, quite shocked when Mr. Sidaway said I could refer to him as "Tony", since I've never been on particularly friendly terms with him, and don't wish to be. Scottaka UnitAnode 01:24, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- Civility, and moreso diplomacy, requires that you address other people in their preferred manner. Other people abide by your wishes, you abide by theirs. Very simple. LessHeard vanU (talk) 01:28, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- BS. "Civility" requires no such thing. And I note with interest that you've dropped the nonsense about how the UK considers addressing by a surname uncivil. As it seems I've run into a version of LhVU that is itching to use his block button, I'll add a "Mr." before "Sidaway", but I will not be addressing him as "Tony", so if that's blockable, then block away. Scottaka UnitAnode 01:33, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- Civility, and moreso diplomacy, requires that you address other people in their preferred manner. Other people abide by your wishes, you abide by theirs. Very simple. LessHeard vanU (talk) 01:28, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- So, what the hell is LhVU's problem, then? I was, frankly, quite shocked when Mr. Sidaway said I could refer to him as "Tony", since I've never been on particularly friendly terms with him, and don't wish to be. Scottaka UnitAnode 01:24, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Names and whatnot
Yes, the way we address one another matters. You've chosen to be called "Unit Anode" but that is an obvious pseudonym, and more recently you've identified yourself as "Scott". I started at Misplaced Pages with an anonymoua username "Minority Report" but quickly changed to "Tony Sidaway", my real life name.
Simple human honesty, respect and mutual dignity means that I willl address you as you wish and you will address me as I wish. We're colleagues in constructing this encyclopedia. If you don't think of me as a friend, at least I'm not an enemy. You can, and should, refer to me as Tony. If you must refer to me by my surname, of course you would want to refer to me as "Mr Sidaway". You surely cannot be aware of how rude it is to refer to someone by his unadorned surname. --TS 01:33, 28 February 2010 (UTC)