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#The element was selected as a cultural icon by a national body.<ref>See for one example. Any nation with a comparable selection would equally meet our standards.</ref> #The element was selected as a cultural icon by a national body.<ref>See for one example. Any nation with a comparable selection would equally meet our standards.</ref>
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==Derivative articles== ==Derivative articles==

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The following is a proposed Misplaced Pages policy, guideline, or process. The proposal may still be in development, under discussion, or in the process of gathering consensus for adoption.
This page in a nutshell: If a fictional topic has received significant verifiable coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article.
For information about writing articles on fiction, see Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style (writing about fiction). For specific examples of where you may be able to help, see Misplaced Pages:Fiction/Noticeboard.
Notability
General notability guideline
Subject-specific guidelines
See also

This page gives some rough guidelines intended to be used by Misplaced Pages editors to decide whether a fictional element should or should not have an article on Misplaced Pages; this guideline does not pertain to lists of such items. While satisfying these notability guidelines generally indicates an element warrants an article, failing to satisfy them is not a criterion for speedy deletion.

This guideline may be considered a specialized version of Misplaced Pages:Notability, applied to fictional elements, reflecting the following core Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines:

Claims of notability must adhere to Misplaced Pages's policy on Verifiability; it is not enough to simply assert that an element meets a criterion without substantiating that claim with reliable sources.

"Notability" as used herein is not a reflection of an element's appeal. An element may be brilliantly created, envisioned and visualized, fascinating and identifiable, while still not being notable enough to ensure sufficient verifiable source material exists. Notability is not a measure of how important an element is to the work itself; rather it serves as a guide on whether to create an article in an encyclopedia.

General principles

As with all subjects, an element should satisfy the general notability guideline.

The general guideline for notability shared by most of the subject-specific notability guidelines and Misplaced Pages:What Misplaced Pages is not, is that:

A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.

This guideline includes published works such as books, television documentaries, full-length featured newspaper articles from large circulation newspapers, full-length magazine reviews and criticism excluding the following:

  • Media reprints of press releases, trailers, and advertising for the work in which the element features.
  • Trivial coverage, such as newspaper listings of screening times, "capsule reviews", plot summaries without critical commentary or analysis, or listings in comprehensive guides such as "Leonard Maltin's Movie Guide", TV.com or Gamespot.

The following are attributes that generally indicate, when supported with reliable sources, that the required sources are likely to exist:

  1. The element is a titular character in a number of widely distributed works which have received full length reviews by two or more nationally known critics.
  2. The element is historically notable, as evidenced by one or more of the following:
    • Publication of at least two non-trivial articles.
    • The element was deemed notable by a broad survey of critics, academics, or professionals, or a poll of the public organised by a national broadcaster or publication, when such a poll was conducted at least five years after the work's release.
    • The element has been the subject of a television retrospective, at least five years after initial release.
    • The element was featured as part of a documentary, program, or retrospective on the history of fiction or a particular genre or form.
  3. The element was selected as a cultural icon by a national body.
  4. The element is "taught" as a subject at an accredited university or college with a notable program relevant to the form.
  5. You could also try using common sense and ignore the stupid rules on this page; no one actually applies them in practice anyway, and they'd be run out of town on a rail if they did.

Derivative articles

Misplaced Pages articles tend to grow in a way which lends itself to the natural creation of new articles. However, the consensus at Misplaced Pages is that articles about fictional works should not be split and split again into ever more minutiae of detail treatment, with each split resulting in undue weight being given to insignificant details or trivial coverage. This means that while a book or television series may be the subject of non-trivial real-world coverage, care should be taken when creating separate articles about individual characters or episodes by providing evidence that the subject matter is notable in its own right, and that the new article does not comprise nothing more than a plot summary.

For this reason, it is not normally advisable to set out from the start with the intention of creating derivative articles for every fictional character, episode, scene or chapter derived from it. Rather, avoid splitting articles if the new article cannot meet inclusion criteria for topics about fiction. Such splits may give rise to the creation of an unintentional content forks whose subject matter is already be featured in a related article that does provide evidence of notability.

Articles that don't meet the inclusion criteria

Articles that do not meet the inclusion guidelines above may be redirected and/or merged with a related article that does provide evidence of notability. Whilst this guideline is intended to be used by Misplaced Pages editors to decide whether a fictional topic should or should not have an article on Misplaced Pages, it should not be used as a set of deletion criteria. Although satisfying these notability guidelines generally indicates a fictional topic warrants an article, failing to satisfy them is not a criterion for speedy deletion.

Before proposing that an article is to be deleted, it is important to not just consider whether an article meets these inclusion criteria, but whether it has the potential to do so. Remember that all Misplaced Pages articles are not a final draft, and an article can be notable if such sources exist even if they have not been added at present.

In addition, no part of this guideline is meant to preempt the editorial decision of content selection and presentation; for example, a topic may meet all the criteria, but may be decided by consensus to merge the article with an article on the work of fiction itself instead of a separate article if there is limited information available.

Articles covering fictional elements that are deletion candidates are generally merged or retained temporarily if their coverage can meet some of these criteria:

  1. Real-world coverage: To establish real-world importance, or to provide appropriate context for understanding real-world importance, rather than detail the fictional adventures of imaginary characters. Articles written in the appropriate style, which expand upon relevant points of a main topic to further the reader's understanding, are more likely to find acceptance among the Misplaced Pages community;
  2. Importance of the fictional work: To justify articles on individual elements, the fictional work from which they come must have produced non-trivial artistic impact, cultural impact, or general popularity described in a secondary source. Creator commentary on specific elements may still hint at the likelyhood of the element being notable;
  3. Role within the fictional work: The element must be an important element, and its importance must be verifiable. The importance of characters can be demonstrated when a character or other element in a book/film is referred to in a reliable source review of the book/film, or there is a reference to the casting of the character in a reliable source.

These criteria are not exhaustive, nor agreed by all, but can help to concentrate editorial discussion regarding the merger or deletion of specific articles and help editors reach conclusions as to how to best organise content.

References

  1. Self-promotion and product placement are not the routes to having an encyclopedia article. The published works must be someone else writing about the element. (See Misplaced Pages:Autobiography for the verifiability and neutrality problems that affect material where the subject of the article itself is the source of the material.) The barometer of notability is whether people independent of the subject itself (or of its creator or producer) have actually considered the element itself notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works that focus upon it.
  2. Many of these sources can provide valuable information, and point to other sources, but in themselves do not indicate a notable subject. Similar cases of "trivial" publications may include: reviews that are part of a comprehensive review of all films in a particular festival, that don't assert anything regarding the notability of individual entries; other forms of comprehensive, non-selective coverage; and some web based reviews by amateur critics who have not established their own notability as critics.
  3. Examples would include the Empire Poll etc.
  4. See Icons:A Portrait of England for one example. Any nation with a comparable selection would equally meet our standards.

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