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		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		I have looked at your contributions and you have made many edits recently therefore you deserve the Tireless Contributor Barsntar. Well done and keep up the good work. Regards IJA (talk) 23:18, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

		The Content Creativity Barnstar
		On your contribution, creating tons of articles of quality in wikipedia. Because an encyclopedia needs real contributors with scientific knowledge. Keep up the excellent work!--74.59.88.57 (talk) 01:22, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

		The Barnstar of Diplomacy
		You deserve this barnstar because you got the patience I don't.74.59.88.57 (talk) 03:42, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Albanian Wikipedian?

Go our Albanian TF or click here to access changes on the Albanian public watchlist. --sulmues (talk) 22:52, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

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Accounting TF Member?

See the following links:

• IFRS/IAS Accounting Standards Guide

Is this multilingualism for real?

Hi. I noticed on your userpage that you claim to have level-5 professional ability in a lot of languages in addition to native shqip. Is that for real? I mean, how is that possible? Heroeswithmetaphors (talk) 06:11, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

It is possible. I have a degree in phylology and linguistics and I have started learning foreign languages since I was 5. And I can show you some people who know more than 30 languages. Or I can mention to you that Fan Noli, the biggest Albanian translator, founder of the Albanian Orthodox Church and former Prime Minister of Albania was perfectly fluent in 13 foreign languages. It is normal to encounter polyglots from small countries such as Albania: you'll find the same thing with some people from Georgia, Denmark, or the Netherlands. As a matter of fact, even Skanderbeg was known to be fluent in 6 languages, so that ain't that strange for Albanians, :-). sulmues (talk) --Sulmues 11:44, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Labove

Are you sure that Labove e Zappes is officially cald just Labove? What about Labova e Kryqit near Libochovo?Alexikoua (talk) 21:46, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

100% sure. I know the area pretty well. Labova=Labova e Zhapes=Labova e Madhe (=Big Labova), whereas Labova e Kryqit is a smaller village, not very far. The pretty church that you can see at the pic (), is at the Labova e Kryqit. sulmues (talk) --Sulmues 21:49, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Again :)

Hi Sulmues, thanks again for your help. Your efforts are greatly appreciated and I won't forget how you stood up for me.

It may surprise you to know, but I actually view this sanction as a positive development. It gives me the excuse to step away from editing to focus my time on conducting a thorough investigation into the issues you and I brought forward in the WP discussions. My goal is to file an official request with the Arbitration Committee in the medium-term future to review the disparities currently present in country article ledes. If you are interested, you and I can work on coming up with a proposal. I believe there would be a substantial number of editors willing to help out with this task as many people share our concerns. Would you be interested in such a venture? --Monshuai (talk) 04:28, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if it helped. I still disagree with your topic ban as I think it's unjust. There are a lot of editors who do edit-warring 10 times more than you and get away with it. The only thing you might have been accused of is your insistence in the talk pages. This is very unusual to require a topic ban and too harsh. While I overall respect Sandstein in this decision, I think he hasted too much, but he might want to reconsider in the future. I would gently request that you hold on for some days and prepare very well to start a project of revamping the ARBCOM. I strongly feel you will have my support there. sulmues (talk) --Sulmues 14:00, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Task force

Congratulations for your insistence. I gave up in September because I suffered for some time as you can see from contributions. However, it would have been better to ask for other people's support. Is there any other Albanian left in wiki besides you?Aigest (talk) 12:13, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

I started to heavily contribute in December because I realized there was nobody left and other people were messing up all the Albanian articles. It has been an incredible experience, but lots is left to be done. This message of yours in my talk page is the only support I have gotten from Albanian contributors in good standing so far and I warmly thank you for it. sulmues (talk) --Sulmues 13:55, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

There are some changes in Albanian Task force article you might check and comment Aigest (talk) 15:09, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

I did. I am speechless. This is what I call working on a wikiproject. Thank you! --sulmues (talk) 15:17, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for adding me as a member on the wikiproject, though I think my contribution is very modest due to busy work. Piasoft (talk) 22:54, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

I agree and I thank you for adding me too on Albanian wikiproject.--Alblefter (talk) 00:04, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Vasil Papakristo & Viktor Eftimiu

Since Bobostice belongs to Drenove ] municipality, he fits perfectly there. Vasileios is mentioned in Libohova since Labova e Kryqit belongs to this municipality. What do you thing?Alexikoua (talk) 16:45, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

I think that that's fine because we don't have a Boboshtice article yet. In addition you'll find many more famous people from Labova e Kryqit in the future, so for now we can keep Vasili in Libohova, until we have a Labova e Kryqit article and then we move him to Labova e Kryqit. Btw, I want your apologies in the thread above, so that we can properly start to collaborate. sulmues (talk) --Sulmues 16:48, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

I really appreciate your recent constructive initiatives.Alexikoua (talk) 22:10, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

I'll take that as an apology, if you allow. A new greco-albanian friendship is born. Let's not ruin it! sulmues (talk) --Sulmues 22:19, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm...

Watching what I'm doing much? Ioeth (talk contribs twinkle friendly) 02:29, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Gotta guide properly everyone who wants to report me. --sulmues (talk) 20:08, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Pashalik of Yanina

Please do not continue reverting back and forth; rather, discuss this civilly on the talk page of that article. Thank you.  f o x  (formerly garden) 12:00, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Believe me I am trying. But I will never accept that for the History of Albania only Greek authors are used and US authors such as Chekrezi and UK authors such as James Pettifer be not used. --sulmues (talk) 13:45, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Beqir Balluku

I made some minor corrections you might want to check --ObserverFromAbove (talk) 21:18, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Good edits, thanks! --sulmues (talk) 20:08, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Sali Butka

I'm trying to expand the article on Sali Butka and I was wondering if you have any additional sources. So if you do please help its expansion.--ObserverFromAbove (talk) 22:20, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

I think we're fine. No more sources are needed and I liked your edits. --sulmues (talk) 23:00, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

I moved Aoos to Vjosë, since Vjosa is the predominantly used name in English. What do you think?--ObserverFromAbove (talk) 20:58, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

That was long overdue, Vjosë is for 90% in Albania, I don't see any reason why it should be in Aoos. Will say more in talk page. --sulmues (talk) 00:11, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

wp:ani

I kindly ask you to calm down. Since you are on civility supervision you should better avoid such kind of aggressive editing ], which can be easily considered as wp:trolling.Alexikoua (talk) 14:50, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I am very calm, and I think that I have the same right to be doubious about something that you have. --sulmues (talk) 16:02, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Civility Parole

I see that you continue to consider trolling comments as 'advice' ]. I will say it again this is not a battleground.Alexikoua (talk) 15:04, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

That was as much of a trolling comment as these ones that you liked to use at Vangjel Zhapa article (, , , , , ). Don't use double standards. And I didn't consider that an "advice" but a "warning". --sulmues (talk) 15:07, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

In light of your recent trolling, I have reported you at WP:AE. Your disturbing habit of restoring trolling comments by other editors, whether it is Piasoft's trolling on Vjose, or Lceliku's TOV back then, has got to stop, one way or another. Thank you. Athenean (talk) 20:33, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Hey

Do things all go like that around here?--— ZjarriRrethues —  08:13, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

What can I say? , :-)--sulmues (talk) 12:54, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

March 2010

Please stop. If you continue to delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at User talk:Sandstein, you will be blocked for vandalism.  Sandstein  14:41, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Eh? What are you talking about? I just edited my own comment!!! --sulmues (talk) 14:54, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry! You are right. I misread your edit.  Sandstein  15:10, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

No problem! --sulmues (talk) 15:14, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Arbitration enforcement warning: discretionary sanctions (WP:ARBMAC)

The Arbitration Committee has permitted administrators to impose, at their own discretion, sanctions on any editor working on pages broadly related to the Balkans if the editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process. If you engage in further inappropriate behavior in this area, you may be placed under sanctions including blocks, a revert limitation or an article ban. The committee's full decision can be read at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia#Final decision.

This warning is with respect to this AE request concerning you.  Sandstein  06:26, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Sadik Kaceli

Could you help me expanding the articel of Sadik Kaceli and adding a photo? Vinie007 (talk) 12:00, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Lahuta e Malcis

I started a discussion here . Take a look when you have enough free time.--— ZjarriRrethues —  15:36, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Extra accounts

Actually, you can't delete another account; that's simply not an option with the software.

I strongly recommend that you put a notice on the userpage for the other account indicating that they're both you, so as to not have any suspicion of trying to DS (talk) 00:32, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

 Done by an admin. Thanks! --sulmues (talk) 00:37, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict)I've cleared the pages and added the appropriate template. We cannot delete the user as you did make some article edits, and they have to be attributed. So just don't use that account again. Happy editing, and next time - find an admin to kill the monobook.js ! :-)  Ronhjones  00:38, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

I am not using that account again and thank you so much for killing that monster, :-). --sulmues (talk) 00:41, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Glad to have been able to help  Ronhjones  00:43, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Kushi, Sejko, Demi, Bakalli

Izet Kushi (how come I don't know this person?) Met Sejko (how come I don't know this person?) Bullqeze Demi (how come I don't know this person?) Thanas Bakalli (how come I don't know this person?)

I could scan you some pages of some books I have about them if you want.--— ZjarriRrethues —  08:25, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Please do that only if you write an article, not for me. I trust they must be notable. I was just curiuos how I had never heard of them. --sulmues (talk) 08:26, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

And...Mirë se u ktheve.--— ZjarriRrethues —  08:27, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Ok.

Well first of all i am busy on Albanian Misplaced Pages making Eurovision Song Contest Full. I have made all songs/artist and now hosts. About the singers you sent I will. Actually i made in Albanian Misplaced Pages like : sq:Vesa Luma, a singer who is really famous, sq:Dafina Zeqiri (I just quality it), i also have over 2.000 articles in Albanian but they didn't accept me as Administrator. I will try again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Donikanuhiu (talk • contribs) 17:24, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

If you can write something either in English or in Albanian for the singers that I just gave you, then we'll collaborate and we'll do very pretty articles. They are the history of the festivals of Albania. Thanks for your message! --sulmues (talk) 18:50, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Tarantella

Actually Bacchus is the Roman equivalent of Dionysus and that's why as you may seen the ref had them both. As for Eros, says nothing about so better to live it that way. Your version is less accurate according the ref but more accurate factionally. So it's better, thanks, --Factuarius (talk) 01:44, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Pleasure! --sulmues (talk) 17:55, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

List

It is already there! --Albanian222 (talk) 07:05, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Sulmues

Well done Sul! But I can't understand understand why you made these changes in Zarbalas, especially with his nationality changed (Greek->Albanian). Even according of MOS he became notable as ethnic Greek.Alexikoua (talk) 08:01, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

He was already notable when he was Albanian. He held no Greek nationality at that time. --sulmues (talk) 12:30, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

What I mean is that he was notable as representative of his ethnic community (MP of Omonoia&journalist of Laiko Vika). Something that Panajot Pano wasn't.Alexikoua (talk) 12:27, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

And I agree with you, that's why I left your edits be and the mentioning of his ethnicity in the opening paragraph. Good edits. I think this sentence "an Albanian poet and journalist of Greek ethnicity" is what should appear in the lead and shouldn't be changed. --sulmues (talk) 13:37, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Cham Genocide

Unfortunately, I am not so familiar with the history of Cham Albanians. But maybe I could contribute something when an article would be created. Regards.--Mladifilozof (talk) 23:00, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your availability! --sulmues (talk) 17:55, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

WP:AE

Your attempt to recruit Mladifilozof to create yet another battleground article is the final straw. You were TOLD by admins to cease and desist from WP:BATTLE behavior. As a result, I have had no choice but to report you here . Athenean (talk) 06:09, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Albania TF

Thanks for adding me. By the way, I have to disagree with you on Talk:Pyrrhus of Epirus. Kenji Yamada (talk) 04:59, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Misto Mame

Well, interesting stuff. I admit I've never heard of him before. I knew about Thanasi Ziko& Talio and some other guys. I've to check in the archives of the Greek Communist Party to find out some additional info.Alexikoua (talk) 18:31, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Greater Albania controversy

Nice initiative about Qestorat. However, I see you are directly claiming that current Albania is stretching in modern Thesprotia and Molossia ] ], denying the current state borders and so personally promoting irrendetism concept of Greater Albania and reacting in a sarcastic way ] after you've been reverted. It would be interesting to hear a reason for this.Alexikoua (talk) 09:52, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

I'll try to satisfy your thirst of knowledge. I am not claiming that current Albania is stretching in Thesprotia and Molossia. Those regions are in modern Greece. I think that the Albanian TF should cover all the Illyrian topics. Many Albanian historians (and non) claim that Molossians and Thesprotians were Illyrians. However I got reverted. It looks like the Greek editors tend to look at these theories as fringe. There are a couple of very good Albanian editors who might bring better sources than me, no sarcasm on my side. --sulmues talk contributions 03:23, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

My objection was about the present border, since you claimed that...they lived in today's Albania on both talkpages.Alexikoua (talk) 07:52, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

That was actually incorrect, my bad. Ancient history is not my forte. Corrected those edits.--sulmues talk contributions 09:38, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

List of Albanian football players playing abroad

Need some help with completing it, please help! --{{SUBST:User:Vinie007/Signature2}} (talk) 17:58, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Royal Albanian Army

Please help with improving this article! Falimderit! --Vinie007 (talk) 17:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Made template

I made the template, check it if u want --Vinie007 (talk) 12:02, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Problem is that u can't give the article a class, needs to be fixed --Vinie007 (talk) 12:21, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Let's take the talk in the Albania talk page, so that everyone gives its contribution. --sulmues talk contributions 12:23, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

What template u mean? --VINIE007 (talk) 13:54, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

The one you created --sulmues talk contributions 13:55, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I fixed it, it is now useful! --Vinie007 14:37, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Don't understand, i need to move it? --Vinie007 14:45, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Ok, that would be nice :) --Vinie007 14:45, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

They moved it!, but check This --Vinie007 14:47, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

thx4thx

Oh, thx .... and the Drita magazine article says it changed its name after the first few articles BUT Misplaced Pages still calls it Drita and my Rumbo ref also calls it "Drita"??? Don't understand.... do you? Victuallers (talk) 14:17, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

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Wikiproject

Our wikiproject have to be moved because it is still in Europe Section! P.s. Maybe it is useful to make an Archive! --Vinie007 16:28, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

It's fine by me too. I'll continue to contribute whenever I can find some spare time to do it. Best wishes to all of you Aigest (talk) 08:04, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I moved the little projects which link to Albania TF. Now everything is within Albania, no longer Europe, whereas Kedadi ran the script for all the articles, bless his soul. Now we got to give an assessment to each article while going there. --sulmues talk contributions 09:04, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Albanian players playing abroad

I Can't understand your question? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vinie007 (talk • contribs) 14:00, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah i saw it now, good idea. That bod above me faild, i inserted signature 100% --Vinie007 14:04, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry, I knew it was you, :-). --sulmues talk contributions 14:05, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Royal Albanian Army

Can u help me with adding this File:Albania Royal Army.jpg at this Template:Country data Albania, so u can use {{Albania|Royal Army} --Vinie007 21:36, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Before I do anything: Just a quick question: how come that book is called Libri i Ushtrise se Zogut, published in 1921, if Zogu came into power in 1924? Could you please check? --sulmues talk contributions 09:05, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

It must be 1931! --Vinie007 11:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I corrected the title as far as spelling is concerned, but are you sure that that's the correct title? And can you please see to state the correct year of publication? I trust is older than 1940 (which would be 70 years of copyright, it wouldn't matter that the author is dead, the important thing is that we have at least 70 years from publication, when rights expire. --sulmues talk contributions 14:11, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

The date is correct because that picture is from one of the battles of Kacanik in Kosovo in 1910 or 1912. I'm not sure if this is a picture of the first(1910) or the second(1912) battle of Kacanik.--— ZjarriRrethues —  16:20, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

We are talking about this File:Albania Royal Army.jpg. Zjarri probably you are meaning another pic? --sulmues talk contributions 16:23, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

You're right I was refering to another picture with the same source. --— ZjarriRrethues —  16:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Royal Albanian Army 2

heheh, got a question: Could you please send in Royal Albanian Army for Misplaced Pages:Peer review, i couldn't understant anything about that piece of new revieuw requests --Vinie007 14:09, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Nope, because it's still early. Normally I would say that this is a stub article, even though it has plenty of info. When you have put some more references than we can put it at least as a Start. There is still a lot of cleanup to do, and rather than getting a review you'll get many cleanup tags. --sulmues talk contributions 14:16, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

WP:SQ to do list

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Albania/To Do List, this table do not represensent the good numbers! --Vinie007 16:29, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Why? --sulmues talk contributions 16:30, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

thx

Thanks again. I'm planning to put it forward for DYK. Drita can go as well as long as its text has expanded x5 in last 5 days - seems close. Have you any idea what the charge against hoxhi was and when he was arrested? Victuallers (talk) 16:03, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

The charges against Koto Hoxhi, Pandeli Sotiri, Papa Kristo Negovani, Petro Nini Luarasi have all been to have taught or to have said mess in Albanian language. Muslim Albanians were not allowed to write in Albanian during Ottoman Empire, whereas the Greek orthodox church operating in Albania at that time would prohibit the language to the Albanians of Christian Orthodox faith. And for what I just wrote I could be indicted by the Greek editors that I am using the English wikipedia as a battleground, even though there are plenty of sources on this. Unfortunately, with few exceptions, such as Jacques, they are all in Albanian. An investigation is still ongoing for my behavior in Misplaced Pages see here--sulmues talk contributions 16:11, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

disappointed to see that are "in trouble" ... but not with me. I have given you joint authorship. If you/we can find 2-300 extra characters in Drita in next few hours then that can go to front page too. Oh free advise (ie valueless).... if you feel really strongly about a subject then let others edit it. Battles are for online gamers.... I've never been to Albania .... why don't you try .... something random to look at? 19:40, 6 April 2010 (UTC).... after we finish Drita :-P Victuallers (talk) 19:40, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I will start contributing on IFRS pretty soon. Ok, let's finish Drita. --sulmues talk contributions 19:43, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Re: FkpCascais

No problem. Thank you! I just want you to know that all my work here goes pretty much around an effort in making the football from our region better presented to the "world". Despite being a Serb, and loving my country, I do have a particular view on the Serbian-Albanian relations. Also, despite all the political situation, I find that football (well, sports in general) shouldn´t be linked with them. An enormous number of articles and players related to Kosovar Albanians from the pre-1999 are still not donne, so I will try also, in the meanwhile, to contribute there as well. Anyway, I send you regards and thank you for your kind words again. You can count on my help if in any time is needed. FkpCascais (talk) 16:58, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

You know, I asked Kedadi a long time ago if he could recomend me somebody to help me with Albanian/Kosovar Albanian football related articles... well, now I know. We are similar on this, we both edit football related articles, but also historical, political, etc, but it is not that strange. What would really be strange is to find someone from our region that doesn´t like football,history&politics (lol). anyway, I agree completely with you that Balkan and Balkans Cup should be better represented, but I am not sure I would be able to help much since I don´t have much material about it... Regarding the idea of reviving such tournaments, I don´t know if you know, but specially in Serbia and Croatia, the issue of reviving a "common league" (ex-Yugoslavia and Albanian could also join) has been very active this winter, but neither I, neither the general public in Serbia have decided yet what would be better. On one side, it would be great to have a bigger and stronger league, that would have all the best clubs from the region included, but on the other hend, it would possibly be disastrous for the medium and smaller size football centers, that would be left in some secundary leagues... About Božidar Sandić (is it Sandić, or maybe Sanđić?) I couln´t find anything about him... Who was he, where he played? I am also remembering now another incident I was involved regarding Albanian football. I had been edit-warring about one player in the List of foreign football players in Albanian Superliga. The case was around a Diminican player Elpys Josè Espinal. MatthewHK removed him from the list, and I revrted him, since many sources say he played in Dinamo Tirana 2003-04. He insisted and I didn´t wanted to continue, do you know something about it? FkpCascais (talk) 23:04, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Ardian (Albanian name)

Hi Sulmues. I can see you come from the linguistics and philology background.I had a major in History as a part of my BA degree, but I have always been interested in linguistics personally and tried to study two fields simultaneously.So, I am glad to have met you. I have been particularly interested in Albanian names as I am an Albanian myself. My son's name is Ardian. One day a good friend of mine sent me an email telling me to look up an article about this name on Misplaced Pages that he wrote but somone changed it making the name look degraded.This person that my friend had a very heated debate with (see the 'Discussion: Ardian' for details) continuously kept denying any source showing the connection between the popular Albanian name of Ardian and the name of the Illyrian tribe of Ardiaei. Indeed in his discussions he denied the Albanians any right to Illyrian cultural heritage, often contradicting sources he provided himslef. I remember that among other things he wrote that Ardian is a communist name. Later on he insisted that Ardian is nothing but a deviated version of Adrian.When my friend provided a good source on the internet, a scanned page of a book on Albanian names listing the name Ardian, this countering person said that the source was invalid because it was written ina totallitarian regime (meaning the communist-time Albania). Can you imagine that? Luckily, they both finaly settled on some neutral version of the article, the one that you can see at Misplaced Pages right now, except that I made some grammatical changes in the sentence, in order to make the English language slightly more approrpiate.I couldn't find any source in the English language showing that Ardian comes from Ardiaei, or more precisely from the Albanian word for Ardiaei, Ardianet (although I know it does, for that's how I named my own child). However,at the Discussion:Ardian (Albanian name) I found that a lady offered a good source in Albanian and she even translated it into English, which I believe is acceptable in the absence of an English source. The source is the recently published book entitled 'FJALOR EMRASH', written by Vladimir Zoto, published by Dasara. On page 42 the author says: "Ardian-Emër mashkullor që vjen nga emri përgjithësues ardianët, ose ardiejtë.Këta ishin një fis ilir, banorë të krahinës Ardia në Dalmati që përmenden që në shekullin e katërt para erës së re.Kryeqendra e tyre ishte fillimisht Risiniumi e më pas Shkodra.Ardiana është forma femërore më e përdorur e emrit.Ardi,Ardia përdoren si forma të shkurtuara….”Translation: “Ardian-A masculine name that stems from a proper name of Ardianet, or Ardijejt. The latter were an Illyrian tribe and the inhabitants of the region of Ardia in Dalmatia, mentioned in 4th cetruy B.C. Their initial capital city was Risinium, and later on Shkodra. Ardiana is a femnine form of this name. Abreviated forms like Ardi and Ardia are in use too…”.(I copied this from her paragraph at Discussion: Ardian (Albanian name)). I found it on several internet sites, e.g.:http://library.seeu.edu.mk/index.php?lvl=notice_display&id=166. So, my question is, can this source, the page from the abovementioned book of Vladimir Zoto mentioned above be used as a source where citation is needed in that article? If so, does one have to provide the entire paragraph from the book along with the translation and where do you put it,in the footnote or elswhere? I am not really a Wiki expert.Thanks.--Besajone (talk) 08:00, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your gentle note. I am familiar with the book. See referenced in Ardian (Albanian name). Best! --sulmues talk contributions 12:12, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

STOP following me around

You really need to stop doing that. It is WP:HARASSMENT and I won't tolerate it. If you do it again, I will report you to WP:ANI. And I won't warn you again. Athenean (talk) 17:34, 7 April 2010 (UTC)