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] → {{noredirect|1=Punjab (Indian state)}} — The reason that "state" included in the article, many Indian people know that is the Indian state rather than Western people. Unless, two American states disambiguated articles like ] and ], also ] in Mexico, ] and ] in Brazil. ] <sup>]</sup> 08:50, 15 May 2010 (UTC) ] → {{noredirect|1=Punjab (Indian state)}} — Relisted. --] (]) 14:22, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
The reason that "state" included in the article, many Indian people know that is the Indian state rather than Western people. Unless, two American states disambiguated articles like ] and ], also ] in Mexico, ] and ] in Brazil. ] <sup>]</sup> 08:50, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

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  1. July 2005 –

Indus valley civilization

In dont understand why Mohenjo-daro which is in Sindh pakistan have to do anything with Punjab! I suggest that Harappa and Ganeriwala be added instead. Because these cities of Indus valley civilization are located in the Punjab region. Also the sentance is confusing by stating that Indus valley civilization is only located in Pakistan. Major discoveries have been found in Gujarat, Haryana, and Rajasthan. (Dewan S. Ahsan 04:09, 17 January 2009 (UTC))

HELP nedd answwer urgently.................

All answer in reference to punjab help me.....pls!


1. introduction to regional cooking?
2.factors affecting eating habit in punjab?
3.heritage of indian cuisine of punjab?
4.different regional cuisine in punjab?
5.cooking fron punjab state:
**** a. geographical location
**** b. historical background
**** c. special equipment and fuel used
**** d. staple diet
**** e. food prepared for festivals and occasion
**** f. raw material available


Prashantsoni1404 (talk) 18:05, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

gallery

Should we remove the gallery?Lalit Jagannath (talk) 18:10, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Education

Someone who knows the topic is requested to clean up the higher education institutes list, many non-notable names have been added. ReluctantPhilosopher (talk) 21:06, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Language as a state symbol

(Discussion moved here from my talk page -- Timberframe (talk) 16:07, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Punjab govt. considers its language as its state symbol.And you deleated it...........Why you are not deleting language from all states then............every state page on wiki says so.............maybe its bengal or karnataka........--Migelot 05:56, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

A language is not obviously or intuitively a symbol, but I'm prepared to accept that it is considered such if you can cite evidence of that. However, a language certainly isn't "Flora and fauna", which is where the table of state symbols is located, whereas this heading is appropriate to all the other symbols. If we're to include language as a state symbol then I suggest that (1) we justify doing so by reference to a reliable government source (2) we move the table to a morte appropriate section.-- Timberframe (talk) 16:02, 14 November 2009 (UTC)


The table is only in flora and fauna section..........It can be moved somewhere else........This article has many faults............such as History section needs attention ..........I didnt mind to bother you but every state page is showing in its state symbols.......Plz check West Bengal page. they are even showing Union day in state symbols along with their language Bengali About Tamil Nadu song and sports are part of it........So mate are you going to make modifications there also??? Punjabi is one of the state symbol of Punjab. I dont know you are Indian or not.......india is just like europe where different areas have different languages, cuisine, culture, dances, folklore even religion.If punjabis consider Punjabi as state language what others can possibaly do??--Migelot 16:59, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

yeah, all this aside, you don't need to inundate the article with useless images and bad English, Migelot. This article is an overview that leads off into several "main articles." Articles look professional when images are used as needed, not pictures of lassi and repetitive landscape pics. And languages can't be symbols, I'm not sure if you know what a symbol is. Additionally, your gimmicks, like that table, are not needed when you can simply incorporate the info into the article body. You should acclimate yourself to how articles are written in the English wiki, I've found that users like you bog articles down with minutiae and pretty pictures to the point where articles look like tourist ads, it's ridiculous.3swordz (talk) 12:14, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

You are going out of topic mate we are talking can language can be included in symbol section.I made it after watching west bengal and other states pages........but you dont want anybody making any contribution....its ur wish......I wonder why Timberframe has not replied. ur friend and well wisher--Migelot 17:45, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

I have addressed the language/symbol thing and if we even need a symbol section...read the fourth sentence onward of my previous post. And you should be doing what is best for this article, not copying everyone else's mistakes on other articles. You may have good intentions, but this article just doesn't need that redundant clutter.3swordz (talk) 10:23, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

A picture speaks for 1000 words.Did you ever noticed why Punjab page never became featured article whereas west bengal and sikkim have become featured articles many times????.......I am done editing here..........Its all urs..................Best of luck!!!!!!--Migelot 08:38, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

One thing more yaar.....If you bychance check page of Pakistani Punjab you might see Provincial symbols of punjab with language also in it......you should have not dictated ur temrs and remove everything others do here.....Thanx for time--Migelot 09:10, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

The quality of the article comes way before getting it "featured," like that even matters. And again, we can make this a tidy, informative article rather than copy everyone else's mistakes. A table is redundant when one reads the small paragraph right next to it and finds the same info. Moreover, getting rid of the extraneous takes up enough time without getting to improve on it. And West Punjab's table lists the "provincial" language as Punjabi, as if that language gets any sort of backing or support in Pakistan as opposed to Urdu. Goes to show the quality of that edit (languages...aren't ...symbols), that article is not my concern, to be honest. And frankly, judging by the style of your reply, and your seeing Misplaced Pages as a competition to match other articles regardless of quality and to get featured, I'm not sure you are familiar with certain cultural norms as they apply to English Wiki. Whatever, just don't make useless edits and we'll be good.3swordz (talk) 22:25, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to have taken so long to respond, I was really hoping others would join in the discussion - but it seems not.

I still don't see how a language or a national day can be considered symbols. A symbol is symbolic of something else, it is a metaphor for the real thing. Languages and state days ARE the real thing, they're not symbolic of anything else other than perhaps a national identity. The fact that the West Bengal page adopts a particular approach does not mean it's a good model, and even if you can cite more examples I could suggest that they just followed the same model without critcial appraisal.

But maybe it's a cultural thing and to other minds language and national days are symbols; that's why I hoped for more critical input. -- Timberframe (talk) 13:11, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Merge

Let's merge this with East Punjab, because it's basically the same as East Punjab anyway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by InMooseWeTrust (talk • contribs) 02:12, 11 December 2009 (UTC)


It is already notified in history section about Pakistani and Indian Punjab--Migelot 17:46, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

i think east punjab article is about the region in which the current state of punjab (india), himachal pradesh, and haryana are. because before those three states used to be just one punjab. Gman124 03:49, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Oppose they are two different things. east punjab is punjab before india was rearranged by language barriers, its quite a bit larger.--Profitoftruth85 (talk) 17:33, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Etymology of Punjab

user with IP address 115.252.33.219 has made a changed in this section about origin of word punjab from persian to sanskrit without giving any reason or referance . I reverted it but he again made that change.What can be done?--Migelot 17:41, 22 December 2009 (UTC)


Punjab is derived from Sanskrit. In fact, pretty basic Sanskrit of Panch (five) and ab (water). That is why no reference (except a dictionary) is needed. The common Sanskrit word for water "Appu" is also related to the same root "ab". There is really no need to look for a Persian derivation. Persian is foreign to Punjab for most of its history. And, it is quite unlikely that there is a persian influence in the name. Punjab has the been the land of five rivers since Vedic times (circa 1500 BC). And, Persian influences in India do not start till the Muslim invasion (last 1000 years). The words for Panch and Ab do have close cognates in Persian. That is because Persian and Sanskrit are related Indo-Aryan languages. But, the derivation is directly from Sanskrit.

Definite article

I have inserted the definite article before Punjab in the intro, because thats the way it is in English language. I have added the reference of an official Canadian website which calls Punjab as "the Punjab".Cygnus_hansa (talk) 09:51, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

language

How about mentioning the fact that India's second official language was Persian for over 500 years. There are many words in the Hindu and Punjabi language that are burrowed from Persian. Even there country names are of Persian origin.

24.80.113.143 (talk)ditc —Preceding undated comment added 00:02, 7 April 2010 (UTC).

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Punjab (India) → Punjab (Indian state) — Relisted. --RegentsPark (talk) 14:22, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

The reason that "state" included in the article, many Indian people know that is the Indian state rather than Western people. Unless, two American states disambiguated articles like Georgia and Washington, also Hidalgo in Mexico, Acre and Amazonas in Brazil. ApprenticeFan 08:50, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

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