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:* This won't work in many contexts, most importantly the actual title of an article at the top of the page; also the title bar of a browser window | :* This won't work in many contexts, most importantly the actual title of an article at the top of the page; also the title bar of a browser window | ||
:* This still doesn't work on my vanilla Windows XP system, probably due to lack of support in the default fonts installed | :* This still doesn't work on my vanilla Windows XP system, probably due to lack of support in the default fonts installed | ||
:* It now displays with visible doubled square brackets |
:* It now displays with visible doubled square brackets <nowiki>]</nowiki>, because template:Unicode breaks the template above | ||
: Nice try, Neto. ''—] ] <small>2006-01-24 05:08 Z</small>'' | : Nice try, Neto. ''—] ] <small>2006-01-24 05:08 Z</small>'' |
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Request move
This template must be substituted. Replace {{Requested move ...}} with {{subst:Requested move ...}}. Request move because most other alphabets use the alphabet itself as the name of the article. G-caron can be considered as a variant of G, --Hello World! 14:23, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Voting
- Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~~~~
- I strongly oppose moving the page from G-caron to Ǧ. CDThieme 00:29, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose—titles are the names of things, not the things. —Michael Z. 2006-01-23 15:10 Z
- Dubious
Oppose The suggested name doesn't even display on my monitor; how am I going to watch this?Septentrionalis 01:41, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Discussion
The assertion in the proposed move is false; only the twenty-six letters of the Latin Alphabet for English are named using the familiar letters. For other characters there is no consistent usage, but most of them use a title which is written out. We shouldn't have articles at "Ǧ", "Þ", "Ж", "Ѩ", "한", or "₴"—how on Earth would an average reader know that their titles are "G-caron", "Thorn", "Zhe", "Little Yus iotified", "Han", and "Hryvnia"? Simply put, titles should be readable. —Michael Z. 2006-01-23 15:25 Z
- I just saw this page in Windows Explorer. It's even worse than expected—only two of my one-character links even display (Safari/Mac displays all but the last, which is part of Unicode 4.1). —Michael Z. 2006-01-24 03:27 Z
I can see the revised target; which is an improvement. But:
- Can everybody?
- Is it practical to use a template in a page name?
- Can editors link to this?
- it's still a little square in my edit screen?
- And why not WP:Use English?
Dubiously, Septentrionalis 04:26, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
- Your dubiousness is warranted. Netoholic made it display on some systems by putting it into template:Unicode on the page above, but:
- This won't work in many contexts, most importantly the actual title of an article at the top of the page; also the title bar of a browser window
- This still doesn't work on my vanilla Windows XP system, probably due to lack of support in the default fonts installed
- It now displays with visible doubled square brackets ], because template:Unicode breaks the template above
- Nice try, Neto. —Michael Z. 2006-01-24 05:08 Z