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*:The reverting was done by different people each time, rarely breaking 1RR. We change it, some layman changes it, and then we can't revert under 1RR.The template makes it harder for those people to change - only those that know of the template and how to change it can change it. Also, if they found out, greater protection can be given to the template, leaving the article editable. ](]/]) 15:31, 7 June 2010 (UTC) *:The reverting was done by different people each time, rarely breaking 1RR. We change it, some layman changes it, and then we can't revert under 1RR.The template makes it harder for those people to change - only those that know of the template and how to change it can change it. Also, if they found out, greater protection can be given to the template, leaving the article editable. ](]/]) 15:31, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
*::This isn't how to handle a situation like this. If consensus has been gained for the material to be a certain way, and more than one editor insists on changing it, then seek to have the article semi or fully protected (see ]). You don't use templates to 'prevent' people from changing things (it doesn't work anyway). --] (]) 15:34, 7 June 2010 (UTC) *::This isn't how to handle a situation like this. If consensus has been gained for the material to be a certain way, and more than one editor insists on changing it, then seek to have the article semi or fully protected (see ]). You don't use templates to 'prevent' people from changing things (it doesn't work anyway). --] (]) 15:34, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
*:::It already is semi, full would stop all good faith edits. So far, the template has worked fine. ](]/]) 15:39, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

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{{unblock|This account was blocked for sockpuppeting. This was due to a bug while changing the name of my account, not letting me into my new account (password not recognised). I have been using A930913, and have made no edits on 930913 (because I can't log into it) although my edits on this account were transferred at the time of name change. Please could this account be unblocked and help be given as to getting me onto the account 930913. Thank you.}}

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Your recent edits

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I do, you just repeatedly double sign my posts. Well that's my bash at SineBot, if only it could read.
EDIT: LOL! I forgot to sign that post. 930913(Congratulate/Complaints) 05:04, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Another user appears to be having trouble with the sign icon. It might be best to type in the 4 tildes again since it keeps on happening.Cptnono (talk) 05:08, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Again as in to sign with ~~~~~~~~? 930913(Congratulate/Complaints) 05:23, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Oh oops. No, just 4 of them. Is that what you are doing? I thought you might be clicking the button which another eidtor was doing and having it not sign.Cptnono (talk) 05:34, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Nope, I'm signing with four tildes. 930913(Congratulate/Complaints) 05:40, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Yeah it is working here (obviously). For whatever reason it is coming up on the article talk page that you are not. Maybe missing here and there? I do wonder why the bot is shooting you messages though. I would assume it would not send messages to confirmed users since I have never received the message and I have forgotten. Oh well. Looks like you are doing it right for the most part.Cptnono (talk) 05:45, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Aha! User:SineBot#Opting out Follow that and you should never be bothered by it again.Cptnono (talk) 05:47, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Yup, I was also reading that. It seems these posts were from three SineBot mistakes in a twenty four hour period.

Your recent edits

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Seriously? I'm going to be spammed every three days by SineBot? 930913(Congratulate/Complaints) 05:08, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Looks that way : ( Sent you a note in the section above.Cptnono (talk) 05:17, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Template:A930913Test2

Test

Hey, this is a test post as per request in IRC. —nn123645 (talk) 04:53, 6 June 2010 (UTC) Template:A930913Test1 Template:A930913Test2

Fair use images

Hi!

Unfortunately, we can't use fair use images on talk pages (which can make discussing images - and templates that use them - tricky.

To get round this, link to images and templates instead:

] will display as: File:Activistboatclash.jpg

{{tlx|Gfr soldier-activist pic}} will display as: {{Gfr soldier-activist pic}}

Both are linked to the underlying image or template.

Hope that helps, and explains why I've been refactoring your comments!

Cheers, TFOWR 13:23, 6 June 2010 (UTC) Template:A930913Test1

Here's why ;-) Basically, U.S. law (Misplaced Pages is legally based in the U.S.) allows us to claim "fair use" on copyrighted images, but we can only use them in certain places (the article itself, and on the image's file page).
Sorry, I try and avoid IM and keep everything "on-wiki"!
Cheers, TFOWR 14:00, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
I'm sure I read it on MFA or somat that anyone can use it for non profit if attributed to them. I'll try find it. 930913(Congratulate/Complaints) 14:25, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

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--HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:17, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Template:Gfr soldier-activist pic

There is nothing about a template that isn't less susceptible to vandalism than an article. The policy is clear; non-free content is not permitted in templates. There is no wiggle room on this. I've remove the image again. Please do not re-instate it. Thank you, --Hammersoft (talk) 13:32, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Does it satisfy the criteria now? 930913(Congratulate/Complaints) 13:47, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Dammit, Hammersoft is right - apologies, I should have thought of this sooner.
I can't see the image now - so in that respect, yes, it does appear to satisfy the criteria ;-)
Could we use the template for the text only? (Not sure if it would help, but it would avoid the FUR issues).
TFOWR 13:54, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
  • I still think it's rather pointless to be using a template for this work. It will only be used once. Templates "should not masquerade as article content in the main article namespace; instead, place the text directly into the article." (ref: Misplaced Pages:Template namespace). Apparently, the point is to stop some revert warring/vandalism. Templatizing something doesn't stop that. The contents of this template should be put directly into the article, and the template deleted. If editing continues against consensus, then seek help at at noticeboard, such as WP:AN/I. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:08, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
    One big gain for me was the opportunity to move discussion about one caption to a separate talk page - but I'm inclined to agree with you in retrospect, that this idea isn't a go-er. TFOWR 15:15, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
    The reverting was done by different people each time, rarely breaking 1RR. We change it, some layman changes it, and then we can't revert under 1RR.The template makes it harder for those people to change - only those that know of the template and how to change it can change it. Also, if they found out, greater protection can be given to the template, leaving the article editable. 930913(Congratulate/Complaints) 15:31, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
    This isn't how to handle a situation like this. If consensus has been gained for the material to be a certain way, and more than one editor insists on changing it, then seek to have the article semi or fully protected (see WP:RFPP). You don't use templates to 'prevent' people from changing things (it doesn't work anyway). --Hammersoft (talk) 15:34, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
    It already is semi, full would stop all good faith edits. So far, the template has worked fine. 930913(Congratulate/Complaints) 15:39, 7 June 2010 (UTC)