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Please discuss

After reverting my work with the comment "take it to the talk page" you continue to revert without bothering to discuss. If you feel so strongly about the wording of the article that you make such changes, please show the courtesy of explaining your actions like everyone else does. BlackCab (talk) 09:52, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Hey I though tit was pithy, consider your own reversions.....], ]. Looks aq little like the pot calling the kettle black wouldn't you think? Hell In A Bucket (talk) 14:27, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Neither of the diffs you provided above were mine, so whatever point you're trying to make lacks any validity. Unlike you, I have spelt out my reasons for editing the article the way I have. If you're not prepared to discuss changes you make to articles, then don't make them. BlackCab (talk) 22:42, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Either you are a incompetant or are intentionally being obtuse. Your name is BlackCab no? ] This is clearly you, you are on the lest undoing a revision without notice. Here is the link again ], you are on the left this time you left a edit summary but I reverted as it was a good addition. Either way face up to what you're doing or stop your fucking games I don't have the inclination to play connect the dots for you. . Hell In A Bucket (talk) 23:48, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Complaint about your offensive behavior

Hello, Unbroken Chain. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Wikiquette alerts regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion is about the topic User:Hell in a Bucket. Thank you. BlackCab (talk) 05:06, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

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Dude, what does it mean, seriously? I want to know. Is it something about a long term pattern of abuse? I think it's funny you pasted that on my talk page without any investigation... You honestly made my day, man. Hilarious! Professor Chaos (talk) 06:24, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Apparently I made mine as well. I didn't look at the dates of some of your previous warnings. My apologies for the rather terse warning. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 06:25, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Haha... I have vandalized twice... I put "shit-ton" in the U.S. units of measure conversion units table, and it lasted an hour... then this, as part of a discussion on whether it was really a word. I'm not really after you, I figured it was a standard warning... the rest of my Misplaced Pages edits are all legit, haha. Professor Chaos (talk) 06:29, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

June 2010

In the future, please use civil and polite language at all times, especially when others tells you that your use of expletives bothers them. Directing profanities towards others and calling them incompetents is not compatible with Misplaced Pages's collaborative environment. Thanks,  Sandstein  19:09, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Can't really say I'm going to stop using the word fuck. Would you point out how mentioning ] is a violation of NPA? Hell In A Bucket (talk) 23:52, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

There's a difference between using the guideline WP:COMPETENCE as a reason for blocking and using the word as a breach of civility policy, and I note you're not asking for an unblock, which I might have declined anyway on the basis that if another editor is offended by the language you use, and asks you to stop using it, you should do so. This isn't a where the lowest common denominator prevails; it is a collaborative environment in which competing interests and values should be mediated. If that has to be by blocking, so be it. Rodhullandemu 00:03, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

That was so far off base what happened here that's funny. I'm blocked for being direct and open. I started this by asking a SPA to explain why they were making a removal, above you will see that this was completely ignored and they wanted to play games. I responded, they bitched got someone gullible and block happy and I'm blocked for 24 hours. Whatever. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 00:11, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Er, no. I read WP:WQA, and checked all the links. You come across as arrogant and truculent; this isn't a personal attack because it's supported by your own edits. Some editors seem to have a "magic immunity" against being blocked for lengthy periods, or at all. My assessment is that you are some distance away from achieving that level of immunity, even if it is justifiable. My further opinion is that it is not. You're on thin ice as far as I'm concerned. Rodhullandemu 01:01, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

You are being dishonest. The sequence of events you depict is quite wrong. You reverted my edits and peremptorily suggested I discuss it on the talk page. The history of the Jehovah's Witnesses article and the discussion on the talk page make it plain that another user and I were prepared to discuss the disputed material. You didn't. In the end, that was irrelevant. My complaint about you was based not on that, but on your aggressive, belligerent and abusive responses. Misplaced Pages's policies on civility promote the establishment of an environment where editors collaborate peacefully. We may disagree, but there is no need for obscenity and abuse. BlackCab (talk) 00:30, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Really, would you care to point out where I was wrong with the timeline? You started with a no edit reversion, then a summary this is a wrong scripture, then accused me of not responding to the talkpage. Either way I really don't give a fuck, you can twist it as much as you want but it's only 24 hours and I can assure you this isn't going to magically change my vocabulary. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 02:23, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

If you legitimately cannot tell the difference between being "direct and open" versus "rude and hostile", or between "vocabulary" versus "treatment of others", I can assure you that you are going to run into problems again. You don't have to change your vocabulary. You don't even have to change your choice of interpersonal strategy - you just might find it very advantageous to your continued work here to do so. Your call in the end. Exercise the conscious choice to be civil or don't as you see fit, and deal with the consequences or lack thereof when they come around. - Vianello (Talk) 04:32, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

I think this is pretty fucking lame. If you notice though I haven't requested a unblock, I have no intention of groveling and promising to do something I know I won't do. I stand behind every comment I made and have made during this incident. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 04:40, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Civil behavior is not an optional nicety. I'm not saying we don't all snap and rage. I've done it. We've ALL done it, on and off Misplaced Pages. That's human nature. But if you can't agree to just make a go of it, can't comprehend why it's a problem, and can't see doing that as anything but "grovelling", then I am afraid you simply lack a necessary quality of participation here. Forgive me if I've mischaracterized you in doing this, but this is all I am able to take from your comments. - Vianello (Talk) 04:51, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Its been noticed, I'm sure, and I'm going to second everyone who is telling you that you are coming across very poorly. Despite what you seem to think, since Misplaced Pages is a community, this actually is a problem for you. --Pstanton (talk) 04:44, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

If you really think it's a problem then you have a very very thin skin, even it were a personal attack this would be one of the most minor I've seen. Really, I don't think this is justified, it's pretty fucking stupid really and I'm only repeating myself, I'm not going to win sometimes a person doesn't. I'm not asking for anyone to show me the error of my ways so save yourselves sometime seriously Hell In A Bucket (talk) 04:52, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

We all have skins of differing thickness. One thing, though, is not negotiable: if others tell you that they consider your way of using profanities objectionable, you must stop. I agree with what Vianello says here and above; and I warn you that you may be blocked indefinitely (that is, until you agree to change your conduct) if you continue behaving this way once your block expires.  Sandstein  06:01, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

That's a pretty broad thing to put out there, I'm hypothetically offended by the word the does that mean everyone has to stop using that on my talkpage or in dealing with me (rhetorical)? You can throw the threats out there and have the button to back it up. All this has been is a red herring argument. The person claiming offense has continued the same overtly manipulative behavior to avoid responsibility over a absurdly simple issue and has turned this into a beard where the word fuck and incompetant shocked everyone so much that everyone has looked the other way to the issue behind it. Good job folks. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 06:12, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

User:BlackCab however, has comported himself with maturity throughout this issue, as far as I can see. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but you weren't banned because of some duplicity by Blackcab, you were banned because of your blatant contempt for other editors and lack of WP:CIVILITY on talk pages and in the Wikiquette alert. --Pstanton (talk) 06:24, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

When you say mature do you mean not answering the original very civil request to take his unexplained reversion to the talkpage? Maybe it's the twisting of events that have taken us to our current situation, I presented him with diffs that had his name on them and this resulted only in denials. I was then accused of doing the same thing I was asking him to do by him and denied he hadn't made the reversions. This account has a conflict of interest and has a de facto hate speech on his user page about the religion. The person he reverted is the exact opposite. This naturally makes for conflict. Hence the initial reference to the incompetance article. I couldn't find the stupid link on the first posting so I corrected on the second. At that point the word fuckbecame a issue. I have no qualms in admitting I have a temper but there are underlying issues beyond my own behavior. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 06:30, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

My point is that the main concern is not the right or wrong of your content dispute over the Jehovah's Witnesses, but rather your inability to handle it in a civil manner. And your use of profanity is always an issue. WP:PROFANE and WP:CIVILITY. --Pstanton (talk) 06:38, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

You're point is extremely off base. I'm not asking him to remove offensive from a article, just explain why he is reverting with no summary and then with a edit summary only that tge scripture is wrong. Fine if the scripture is wrong explain it but a blind revert isn't really great when you consider the fact that he was revewrting his opposite. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 06:41, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Do you understand that your block had nothing to do with what BlackCab did or did not do, and was entirely a result of your own conduct? --Pstanton (talk) 06:49, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Answer my question, I've been waiting for a day now. Question number one....Why was this nec? ], Question number two.... Where was this addressed or explained? ] Next maybe even confusing I'm accused of not putting my rationale on the talkpage although the user is removing sourced material. So I said the word fuck and I alluded to incompetance by conflict of interest. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 06:50, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

The answers to your questions are in Talk:Jehovah's Witnesses#Isaiah 43:10-12 Ye are my Witnesses saith Jehovah - Watchtower Reference and the edit history of Jehovah's Witnesses. As that talk page shows, the issue was, I thought, resolved two weeks earlier when User:Naturalpsychology accepted that the word "Jehovah" was never used in the Bible text cited when the religion changed its name in 1931. Several days ago he chose to ignore that and rewrite history. I reverted it and explained my reasons on the talk page. You began undoing my reverts without the courtesy of discussing your reasons. You never did discuss it and appeared to be treating it as a sport. When I asked you to discuss it, you began abusing me. I asked you to stop the abuse and you abused me further. I complained. Another editor ruled that your agressive, abusive behavior warranted a temporary block. You're correct that Naturalpsychology and I have disagreed on our edits. He is an ardent JW, I chose to leave the religion. Both have us have become frustrated at the other's stance and we have often clashed, but neither of us has resorted to swearing as part of our discussion. BlackCab (talk) 07:10, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

I agree oil and water I'/ve said as much a few times in regards to your relationship. I reverted you and you then reverted back with a summary of the scripture is wrong my explanation stands. Nowhere in between that time did you discuss this. You did discuss a nathan knoww quote but nothing addressing the removal of sourced content. Also I didn't swear at you, I swore while talking to you. I said grow the fuck up and said that you were being obtuse or were incompetant. I clearly showed you references with your name on them with these issues and there was no attempt to explain, just denials. I'm not too sure where you were getting I was coming off as taking this as sport...maybe pithy? ] Hell In A Bucket (talk) 07:20, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Unbroken Chain (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

The log says 24 hours block as of 13:05, June 3, 2010 Sandstein with an expiry time of 24 hours ‎ and the note on my page says a different time. Can someone clarify which time is correct?

Decline reason:

The user notes below that he doesn't wish to be unblocked and was merely asking a question. Accounting4Taste:talk 17:12, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

The block log is correct; 24 hours as of as of 13:05, June 3, 2010. Block messages are usually added after the fact. You don't seem to have provided a reason to consider unblocking you, so I'm assuming that the purpose of the unblock request was to ask that question. Should that not be the case, you can certainly provide more information and various administrators will continue to monitor this page while the unblock request remains open. Accounting4Taste:talk 17:07, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

I have no problems waiting out the remaining time, I was only curious to see how long it had remaining as I was blovked while at work and the times were different. Thank you. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 17:08, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying this. On the basis of what you've said, I'm going to take the liberty of closing the deletion request so that administrators won't continue to respond to it; if this is not what you want, please do say so. Accounting4Taste:talk 17:11, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

No problems here, close away. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 17:12, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Title 15 Code of Federal Regulations

You are a participant in the AFD for the article Title 15 Code of Federal Regulations. After you expressed your opinion on the article, a new article, Title 15 of the Code of Federal Regulations, has been created. Please review the new article and, if you would like to change your opinion on the AFD in light of the article, revisit the discussion. Thanks. TJRC (talk) 23:19, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

'Sensitive'

Regarding this edit, it's not the point that you didn't say you were blocked by BlackCab. The point is that the editor who did block you, blocked you because they agreed that you breached the policy. You were blocked because of your actions, not because another editor is 'overly sensitive'.--Jeffro77 (talk) 07:39, 8 June 2010 (UTC)