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On April 11, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Koto Hoxhi, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 22:12, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

On April 21, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Drita (magazine), which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 06:02, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

On May 21, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Parashqevi Qiriazi, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 18:04, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Well done ... another DYK! Victuallers (talk) 19:19, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Albanian Wikipedian?

Go to Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Albania or click here to access changes on the Albanian public watchlist. --sulmues (talk) 22:52, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

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Is this multilingualism for real?

Hi. I noticed on your userpage that you claim to have level-5 professional ability in a lot of languages in addition to native shqip. Is that for real? I mean, how is that possible? Heroeswithmetaphors (talk) 06:11, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

It is possible. I have a degree in phylology and linguistics and I have started learning foreign languages since I was 5. And I can show you some people who know more than 30 languages. Or I can mention to you that Fan Noli, the biggest Albanian translator, founder of the Albanian Orthodox Church and former Prime Minister of Albania was perfectly fluent in 13 foreign languages. It is normal to encounter polyglots from small countries such as Albania: you'll find the same thing with some people from Georgia, Denmark, or the Netherlands. As a matter of fact, even Skanderbeg was known to be fluent in 6 languages, so that ain't that strange for Albanians, :-). sulmues (talk) --Sulmues 11:44, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Labove

Are you sure that Labove e Zappes is officially cald just Labove? What about Labova e Kryqit near Libochovo?Alexikoua (talk) 21:46, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

100% sure. I know the area pretty well. Labova=Labova e Zhapes=Labova e Madhe (=Big Labova), whereas Labova e Kryqit is a smaller village, not very far. The pretty church that you can see at the pic (), is at the Labova e Kryqit. sulmues (talk) --Sulmues 21:49, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Again :)

Hi Sulmues, thanks again for your help. Your efforts are greatly appreciated and I won't forget how you stood up for me.

It may surprise you to know, but I actually view this sanction as a positive development. It gives me the excuse to step away from editing to focus my time on conducting a thorough investigation into the issues you and I brought forward in the WP discussions. My goal is to file an official request with the Arbitration Committee in the medium-term future to review the disparities currently present in country article ledes. If you are interested, you and I can work on coming up with a proposal. I believe there would be a substantial number of editors willing to help out with this task as many people share our concerns. Would you be interested in such a venture? --Monshuai (talk) 04:28, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if it helped. I still disagree with your topic ban as I think it's unjust. There are a lot of editors who do edit-warring 10 times more than you and get away with it. The only thing you might have been accused of is your insistence in the talk pages. This is very unusual to require a topic ban and too harsh. While I overall respect Sandstein in this decision, I think he hasted too much, but he might want to reconsider in the future. I would gently request that you hold on for some days and prepare very well to start a project of revamping the ARBCOM. I strongly feel you will have my support there. sulmues (talk) --Sulmues 14:00, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Task force

Congratulations for your insistence. I gave up in September because I suffered for some time as you can see from contributions. However, it would have been better to ask for other people's support. Is there any other Albanian left in wiki besides you?Aigest (talk) 12:13, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

I started to heavily contribute in December because I realized there was nobody left and other people were messing up all the Albanian articles. It has been an incredible experience, but lots is left to be done. This message of yours in my talk page is the only support I have gotten from Albanian contributors in good standing so far and I warmly thank you for it. sulmues (talk) --Sulmues 13:55, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

There are some changes in Albanian Task force article you might check and comment Aigest (talk) 15:09, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

I did. I am speechless. This is what I call working on a wikiproject. Thank you! --sulmues (talk) 15:17, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for adding me as a member on the wikiproject, though I think my contribution is very modest due to busy work. Piasoft (talk) 22:54, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

I agree and I thank you for adding me too on Albanian wikiproject.--Alblefter (talk) 00:04, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Vasil Papakristo & Viktor Eftimiu

Since Bobostice belongs to Drenove ] municipality, he fits perfectly there. Vasileios is mentioned in Libohova since Labova e Kryqit belongs to this municipality. What do you thing?Alexikoua (talk) 16:45, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

I think that that's fine because we don't have a Boboshtice article yet. In addition you'll find many more famous people from Labova e Kryqit in the future, so for now we can keep Vasili in Libohova, until we have a Labova e Kryqit article and then we move him to Labova e Kryqit. Btw, I want your apologies in the thread above, so that we can properly start to collaborate. sulmues (talk) --Sulmues 16:48, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

I really appreciate your recent constructive initiatives.Alexikoua (talk) 22:10, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

I'll take that as an apology, if you allow. A new greco-albanian friendship is born. Let's not ruin it! sulmues (talk) --Sulmues 22:19, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm...

Watching what I'm doing much? Ioeth (talk contribs twinkle friendly) 02:29, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Gotta guide properly everyone who wants to report me. --sulmues (talk) 20:08, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Pashalik of Yanina

Please do not continue reverting back and forth; rather, discuss this civilly on the talk page of that article. Thank you.  f o x  (formerly garden) 12:00, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Believe me I am trying. But I will never accept that for the History of Albania only Greek authors are used and US authors such as Chekrezi and UK authors such as James Pettifer be not used. --sulmues (talk) 13:45, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Beqir Balluku

I made some minor corrections you might want to check --ObserverFromAbove (talk) 21:18, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Good edits, thanks! --sulmues (talk) 20:08, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Sali Butka

I'm trying to expand the article on Sali Butka and I was wondering if you have any additional sources. So if you do please help its expansion.--ObserverFromAbove (talk) 22:20, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

I think we're fine. No more sources are needed and I liked your edits. --sulmues (talk) 23:00, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

I moved Aoos to Vjosë, since Vjosa is the predominantly used name in English. What do you think?--ObserverFromAbove (talk) 20:58, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

That was long overdue, Vjosë is for 90% in Albania, I don't see any reason why it should be in Aoos. Will say more in talk page. --sulmues (talk) 00:11, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

wp:ani

I kindly ask you to calm down. Since you are on civility supervision you should better avoid such kind of aggressive editing ], which can be easily considered as wp:trolling.Alexikoua (talk) 14:50, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I am very calm, and I think that I have the same right to be doubious about something that you have. --sulmues (talk) 16:02, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Civility Parole

I see that you continue to consider trolling comments as 'advice' ]. I will say it again this is not a battleground.Alexikoua (talk) 15:04, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

That was as much of a trolling comment as these ones that you liked to use at Vangjel Zhapa article (, , , , , ). Don't use double standards. And I didn't consider that an "advice" but a "warning". --sulmues (talk) 15:07, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

In light of your recent trolling, I have reported you at WP:AE. Your disturbing habit of restoring trolling comments by other editors, whether it is Piasoft's trolling on Vjose, or Lceliku's TOV back then, has got to stop, one way or another. Thank you. Athenean (talk) 20:33, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Hey

Do things all go like that around here?--— ZjarriRrethues —  08:13, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

What can I say? , :-)--sulmues (talk) 12:54, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

March 2010

Please stop. If you continue to delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at User talk:Sandstein, you will be blocked for vandalism.  Sandstein  14:41, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Eh? What are you talking about? I just edited my own comment!!! --sulmues (talk) 14:54, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry! You are right. I misread your edit.  Sandstein  15:10, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

No problem! --sulmues (talk) 15:14, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Arbitration enforcement warning: discretionary sanctions (WP:ARBMAC)

The Arbitration Committee has permitted administrators to impose, at their own discretion, sanctions on any editor working on pages broadly related to the Balkans if the editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process. If you engage in further inappropriate behavior in this area, you may be placed under sanctions including blocks, a revert limitation or an article ban. The committee's full decision can be read at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia#Final decision.

This warning is with respect to this AE request concerning you.  Sandstein  06:26, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Sadik Kaceli

Could you help me expanding the articel of Sadik Kaceli and adding a photo? Vinie007 (talk) 12:00, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Lahuta e Malcis

I started a discussion here . Take a look when you have enough free time.--— ZjarriRrethues —  15:36, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Extra accounts

Actually, you can't delete another account; that's simply not an option with the software.

I strongly recommend that you put a notice on the userpage for the other account indicating that they're both you, so as to not have any suspicion of trying to DS (talk) 00:32, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

 Done by an admin. Thanks! --sulmues (talk) 00:37, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict)I've cleared the pages and added the appropriate template. We cannot delete the user as you did make some article edits, and they have to be attributed. So just don't use that account again. Happy editing, and next time - find an admin to kill the monobook.js ! :-)  Ronhjones  00:38, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

I am not using that account again and thank you so much for killing that monster, :-). --sulmues (talk) 00:41, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Glad to have been able to help  Ronhjones  00:43, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Kushi, Sejko, Demi, Bakalli

Izet Kushi (how come I don't know this person?) Met Sejko (how come I don't know this person?) Bullqeze Demi (how come I don't know this person?) Thanas Bakalli (how come I don't know this person?)

I could scan you some pages of some books I have about them if you want.--— ZjarriRrethues —  08:25, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Please do that only if you write an article, not for me. I trust they must be notable. I was just curiuos how I had never heard of them. --sulmues (talk) 08:26, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

And...Mirë se u ktheve.--— ZjarriRrethues —  08:27, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Ok.

Well first of all i am busy on Albanian Misplaced Pages making Eurovision Song Contest Full. I have made all songs/artist and now hosts. About the singers you sent I will. Actually i made in Albanian Misplaced Pages like : sq:Vesa Luma, a singer who is really famous, sq:Dafina Zeqiri (I just quality it), i also have over 2.000 articles in Albanian but they didn't accept me as Administrator. I will try again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Donikanuhiu (talk • contribs) 17:24, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

If you can write something either in English or in Albanian for the singers that I just gave you, then we'll collaborate and we'll do very pretty articles. They are the history of the festivals of Albania. Thanks for your message! --sulmues (talk) 18:50, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Tarantella

Actually Bacchus is the Roman equivalent of Dionysus and that's why as you may seen the ref had them both. As for Eros, says nothing about so better to live it that way. Your version is less accurate according the ref but more accurate factionally. So it's better, thanks, --Factuarius (talk) 01:44, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Pleasure! --sulmues (talk) 17:55, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

List

It is already there! --Albanian222 (talk) 07:05, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Sulmues

Well done Sul! But I can't understand understand why you made these changes in Zarbalas, especially with his nationality changed (Greek->Albanian). Even according of MOS he became notable as ethnic Greek.Alexikoua (talk) 08:01, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

He was already notable when he was Albanian. He held no Greek nationality at that time. --sulmues (talk) 12:30, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

What I mean is that he was notable as representative of his ethnic community (MP of Omonoia&journalist of Laiko Vika). Something that Panajot Pano wasn't.Alexikoua (talk) 12:27, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

And I agree with you, that's why I left your edits be and the mentioning of his ethnicity in the opening paragraph. Good edits. I think this sentence "an Albanian poet and journalist of Greek ethnicity" is what should appear in the lead and shouldn't be changed. --sulmues (talk) 13:37, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Cham Genocide

Unfortunately, I am not so familiar with the history of Cham Albanians. But maybe I could contribute something when an article would be created. Regards.--Mladifilozof (talk) 23:00, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your availability! --sulmues (talk) 17:55, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

WP:AE

Your attempt to recruit Mladifilozof to create yet another battleground article is the final straw. You were TOLD by admins to cease and desist from WP:BATTLE behavior. As a result, I have had no choice but to report you here . Athenean (talk) 06:09, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Albania TF

Thanks for adding me. By the way, I have to disagree with you on Talk:Pyrrhus of Epirus. Kenji Yamada (talk) 04:59, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Misto Mame

Well, interesting stuff. I admit I've never heard of him before. I knew about Thanasi Ziko& Talio and some other guys. I've to check in the archives of the Greek Communist Party to find out some additional info.Alexikoua (talk) 18:31, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Greater Albania controversy

Nice initiative about Qestorat. However, I see you are directly claiming that current Albania is stretching in modern Thesprotia and Molossia ] ], denying the current state borders and so personally promoting irrendetism concept of Greater Albania and reacting in a sarcastic way ] after you've been reverted. It would be interesting to hear a reason for this.Alexikoua (talk) 09:52, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

I'll try to satisfy your thirst of knowledge. I am not claiming that current Albania is stretching in Thesprotia and Molossia. Those regions are in modern Greece. I think that the Albanian TF should cover all the Illyrian topics. Many Albanian historians (and non) claim that Molossians and Thesprotians were Illyrians. However I got reverted. It looks like the Greek editors tend to look at these theories as fringe. There are a couple of very good Albanian editors who might bring better sources than me, no sarcasm on my side. --sulmues talk contributions 03:23, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

My objection was about the present border, since you claimed that...they lived in today's Albania on both talkpages.Alexikoua (talk) 07:52, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

That was actually incorrect, my bad. Ancient history is not my forte. Corrected those edits.--sulmues talk contributions 09:38, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

You wouldn't want me to go and correct it Alexikoua. Consider yourself lucky you are dealing with some one so polite and easy-going as Sulmuesi. --24.37.248.124 (talk) 02:14, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

List of Albanian football players playing abroad

Need some help with completing it, please help! --{{SUBST:User:Vinie007/Signature2}} (talk) 17:58, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Royal Albanian Army

Please help with improving this article! Falimderit! --Vinie007 (talk) 17:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Made template

I made the template, check it if u want --Vinie007 (talk) 12:02, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Problem is that u can't give the article a class, needs to be fixed --Vinie007 (talk) 12:21, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Let's take the talk in the Albania talk page, so that everyone gives its contribution. --sulmues talk contributions 12:23, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

What template u mean? --VINIE007 (talk) 13:54, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

The one you created --sulmues talk contributions 13:55, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I fixed it, it is now useful! --Vinie007 14:37, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Don't understand, i need to move it? --Vinie007 14:45, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Ok, that would be nice :) --Vinie007 14:45, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

They moved it!, but check This --Vinie007 14:47, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

thx4thx

Oh, thx .... and the Drita magazine article says it changed its name after the first few articles BUT Misplaced Pages still calls it Drita and my Rumbo ref also calls it "Drita"??? Don't understand.... do you? Victuallers (talk) 14:17, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

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Wikiproject

Our wikiproject have to be moved because it is still in Europe Section! P.s. Maybe it is useful to make an Archive! --Vinie007 16:28, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

It's fine by me too. I'll continue to contribute whenever I can find some spare time to do it. Best wishes to all of you Aigest (talk) 08:04, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I moved the little projects which link to Albania TF. Now everything is within Albania, no longer Europe, whereas Kedadi ran the script for all the articles, bless his soul. Now we got to give an assessment to each article while going there. --sulmues talk contributions 09:04, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Albanian players playing abroad

I Can't understand your question? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vinie007 (talk • contribs) 14:00, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah i saw it now, good idea. That bod above me faild, i inserted signature 100% --Vinie007 14:04, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry, I knew it was you, :-). --sulmues talk contributions 14:05, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Royal Albanian Army

Can u help me with adding this File:Albania Royal Army.jpg at this Template:Country data Albania, so u can use {{Albania|Royal Army} --Vinie007 21:36, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Before I do anything: Just a quick question: how come that book is called Libri i Ushtrise se Zogut, published in 1921, if Zogu came into power in 1924? Could you please check? --sulmues talk contributions 09:05, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

It must be 1931! --Vinie007 11:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I corrected the title as far as spelling is concerned, but are you sure that that's the correct title? And can you please see to state the correct year of publication? I trust is older than 1940 (which would be 70 years of copyright, it wouldn't matter that the author is dead, the important thing is that we have at least 70 years from publication, when rights expire. --sulmues talk contributions 14:11, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

The date is correct because that picture is from one of the battles of Kacanik in Kosovo in 1910 or 1912. I'm not sure if this is a picture of the first(1910) or the second(1912) battle of Kacanik.--— ZjarriRrethues —  16:20, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

We are talking about this File:Albania Royal Army.jpg. Zjarri probably you are meaning another pic? --sulmues talk contributions 16:23, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

You're right I was refering to another picture with the same source. --— ZjarriRrethues —  16:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Royal Albanian Army 2

heheh, got a question: Could you please send in Royal Albanian Army for Misplaced Pages:Peer review, i couldn't understant anything about that piece of new revieuw requests --Vinie007 14:09, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Nope, because it's still early. Normally I would say that this is a stub article, even though it has plenty of info. When you have put some more references than we can put it at least as a Start. There is still a lot of cleanup to do, and rather than getting a review you'll get many cleanup tags. --sulmues talk contributions 14:16, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

WP:SQ to do list

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Albania/To Do List, this table do not represensent the good numbers! --Vinie007 16:29, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Why? --sulmues talk contributions 16:30, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

thx

Thanks again. I'm planning to put it forward for DYK. Drita can go as well as long as its text has expanded x5 in last 5 days - seems close. Have you any idea what the charge against hoxhi was and when he was arrested? Victuallers (talk) 16:03, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

The charges against Koto Hoxhi, Pandeli Sotiri, Papa Kristo Negovani, Petro Nini Luarasi have all been to have taught or to have said mess in Albanian language. Muslim Albanians were not allowed to write in Albanian during Ottoman Empire, whereas the Greek orthodox church operating in Albania at that time would prohibit the language to the Albanians of Christian Orthodox faith. And for what I just wrote I could be indicted by the Greek editors that I am using the English wikipedia as a battleground, even though there are plenty of sources on this. Unfortunately, with few exceptions, such as Jacques, they are all in Albanian. An investigation is still ongoing for my behavior in Misplaced Pages see here--sulmues talk contributions 16:11, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

disappointed to see that are "in trouble" ... but not with me. I have given you joint authorship. If you/we can find 2-300 extra characters in Drita in next few hours then that can go to front page too. Oh free advise (ie valueless).... if you feel really strongly about a subject then let others edit it. Battles are for online gamers.... I've never been to Albania .... why don't you try .... something random to look at? 19:40, 6 April 2010 (UTC).... after we finish Drita :-P Victuallers (talk) 19:40, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I will start contributing on IFRS pretty soon. Ok, let's finish Drita. --sulmues talk contributions 19:43, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Re: FkpCascais

No problem. Thank you! I just want you to know that all my work here goes pretty much around an effort in making the football from our region better presented to the "world". Despite being a Serb, and loving my country, I do have a particular view on the Serbian-Albanian relations. Also, despite all the political situation, I find that football (well, sports in general) shouldn´t be linked with them. An enormous number of articles and players related to Kosovar Albanians from the pre-1999 are still not donne, so I will try also, in the meanwhile, to contribute there as well. Anyway, I send you regards and thank you for your kind words again. You can count on my help if in any time is needed. FkpCascais (talk) 16:58, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

You know, I asked Kedadi a long time ago if he could recomend me somebody to help me with Albanian/Kosovar Albanian football related articles... well, now I know. We are similar on this, we both edit football related articles, but also historical, political, etc, but it is not that strange. What would really be strange is to find someone from our region that doesn´t like football,history&politics (lol). anyway, I agree completely with you that Balkan and Balkans Cup should be better represented, but I am not sure I would be able to help much since I don´t have much material about it... Regarding the idea of reviving such tournaments, I don´t know if you know, but specially in Serbia and Croatia, the issue of reviving a "common league" (ex-Yugoslavia and Albanian could also join) has been very active this winter, but neither I, neither the general public in Serbia have decided yet what would be better. On one side, it would be great to have a bigger and stronger league, that would have all the best clubs from the region included, but on the other hend, it would possibly be disastrous for the medium and smaller size football centers, that would be left in some secundary leagues... About Božidar Sandić (is it Sandić, or maybe Sanđić?) I couln´t find anything about him... Who was he, where he played? I am also remembering now another incident I was involved regarding Albanian football. I had been edit-warring about one player in the List of foreign football players in Albanian Superliga. The case was around a Diminican player Elpys Josè Espinal. MatthewHK removed him from the list, and I revrted him, since many sources say he played in Dinamo Tirana 2003-04. He insisted and I didn´t wanted to continue, do you know something about it? FkpCascais (talk) 23:04, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Ardian (Albanian name)

Hi Sulmues. I can see you come from the linguistics and philology background.I had a major in History as a part of my BA degree, but I have always been interested in linguistics personally and tried to study two fields simultaneously.So, I am glad to have met you. I have been particularly interested in Albanian names as I am an Albanian myself. My son's name is Ardian. One day a good friend of mine sent me an email telling me to look up an article about this name on Misplaced Pages that he wrote but somone changed it making the name look degraded.This person that my friend had a very heated debate with (see the 'Discussion: Ardian' for details) continuously kept denying any source showing the connection between the popular Albanian name of Ardian and the name of the Illyrian tribe of Ardiaei. Indeed in his discussions he denied the Albanians any right to Illyrian cultural heritage, often contradicting sources he provided himslef. I remember that among other things he wrote that Ardian is a communist name. Later on he insisted that Ardian is nothing but a deviated version of Adrian.When my friend provided a good source on the internet, a scanned page of a book on Albanian names listing the name Ardian, this countering person said that the source was invalid because it was written ina totallitarian regime (meaning the communist-time Albania). Can you imagine that? Luckily, they both finaly settled on some neutral version of the article, the one that you can see at Misplaced Pages right now, except that I made some grammatical changes in the sentence, in order to make the English language slightly more approrpiate.I couldn't find any source in the English language showing that Ardian comes from Ardiaei, or more precisely from the Albanian word for Ardiaei, Ardianet (although I know it does, for that's how I named my own child). However,at the Discussion:Ardian (Albanian name) I found that a lady offered a good source in Albanian and she even translated it into English, which I believe is acceptable in the absence of an English source. The source is the recently published book entitled 'FJALOR EMRASH', written by Vladimir Zoto, published by Dasara. On page 42 the author says: "Ardian-Emër mashkullor që vjen nga emri përgjithësues ardianët, ose ardiejtë.Këta ishin një fis ilir, banorë të krahinës Ardia në Dalmati që përmenden që në shekullin e katërt para erës së re.Kryeqendra e tyre ishte fillimisht Risiniumi e më pas Shkodra.Ardiana është forma femërore më e përdorur e emrit.Ardi,Ardia përdoren si forma të shkurtuara….”Translation: “Ardian-A masculine name that stems from a proper name of Ardianet, or Ardijejt. The latter were an Illyrian tribe and the inhabitants of the region of Ardia in Dalmatia, mentioned in 4th cetruy B.C. Their initial capital city was Risinium, and later on Shkodra. Ardiana is a femnine form of this name. Abreviated forms like Ardi and Ardia are in use too…”.(I copied this from her paragraph at Discussion: Ardian (Albanian name)). I found it on several internet sites, e.g.:http://library.seeu.edu.mk/index.php?lvl=notice_display&id=166. So, my question is, can this source, the page from the abovementioned book of Vladimir Zoto mentioned above be used as a source where citation is needed in that article? If so, does one have to provide the entire paragraph from the book along with the translation and where do you put it,in the footnote or elswhere? I am not really a Wiki expert.Thanks.--Besajone (talk) 08:00, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your gentle note. I am familiar with the book. See referenced in Ardian (Albanian name). Best! --sulmues talk contributions 12:12, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

STOP following me around

You really need to stop doing that. It is WP:HARASSMENT and I won't tolerate it. If you do it again, I will report you to WP:ANI. And I won't warn you again. Stay away from me. Athenean (talk) 17:34, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

I really don't know what you are talking about. Do you think I have no right to contribute to Talk:Ethnic groups in Europe? --sulmues talk contributions 17:37, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

The only way you even found out about the article and the discussion was obviously by looking at my contribs, which you do all the time. Don't play dumb, it's really quite obvious. And like I said, if you do something like that again, I *will* report you. Cheers, Athenean (talk) 17:39, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't know how you came to this "obvious" conclusion, anyway, please feel free to report me anytime. --sulmues talk contributions 17:46, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Dhimiter vs. Demetrious

Actually the only English language mention of him on the web uses Demetrious Sinaiti, "Orthodox Autoc. Church of Alb". I found no use of Dhimitër Sinaiti in English except that Misplaced Pages article and mirrors. Since the language of the church is Greek, and his church name is Δημήτριος (Demetrios of Sinai),ref: "Συμφωνία για Πρωτόκολλο Συνεργασίας των Πανεπιστημίων Ιωαννίνων" and "Μητροπολίτης Αργυροκάστρου ο Δημήτριος", it seems more appropriate than the translation into Albanian. He is called "of Sinai", since that is the diocese from which he came in 1991 when he went to Gjirokastër. Μάλιστα η συζήτηση επεκτάθηκε και ο Επίσκοπος, απαντώντας σε σχετικές ερωτήσεις, έδωσε απαντήσεις σε θέματα που αφορούν στη Μονή Σινά, από την οποία προέρχεται και όπου ανήκε πριν εκλεγεί Μητροπολίτης Αργυροκάστρου. ref: "Συμφωνία για Πρωτόκολλο Συνεργασίας των Πανεπιστημίων Ιωαννίνων". Use Google translate for a close approximation. Does that provide adequate basis for the use of "Demetrious" or "Demtrios" under Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons#Public figures? --Bejnar (talk) 19:13, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

The way you've put it it does, however the official language of the church is Albanian, not Greek. --Sulmues _talk 15:10, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Dhërmi

Hi. Can you expand this article? Dr. Blofeld 21:07, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

reply

Hi Sulmeus, see here. This is where articles are listed. As you see Drita is in the queue, but so far no one has approved/disapproved it. The rules for DYKs are shown on the page. The hook for Koto is shown on Koto's talk page. Hope that helps? A pic might help, but it would have to a very old one as "fair use" pics are not allowed. You could also think up an alternative hook, but it must! have a clear in-line ref in the article. Hope you like the pic etc that I added. Say! don't you speak French? Could you pass an eye over Louis Didier Jousselin and Charles Combes? Victuallers (talk) 19:01, 13 April 2010 (UTC) It may be a blog now, but it wasnt. Our reviewers will show good faith and should approve it as I know it was their site. Maybe you might like to add a note to the nomination to assure reviewers that is was there at the time we wrote it.... oh just thought. It will still be in the Google cache I guess Victuallers (talk) 18:34, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

On Albanian Communist subjects

What do you mean, exactly? --Mrdie (talk) 16:40, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

I cannot think of much besides Communist officials. I've already expanded articles such as the Democratic Front and written articles (Llazar Fundo, Albanian parliamentary election, 1945). My "speciality" is the Enver Hoxha article. If you ever need help with a subject, however, I could always see if my sources can help. --Mrdie (talk) 18:21, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

THanks

Thanks for the Barnstar! ... made me smile. If you get sick of the same subject then try a strange one ... Cheers! Victuallers (talk) 18:53, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Çështje e Heroit të Popullit

Çështja e heqejes së atij emri qëndron, pasi para pak ditëshi Shkëlqesia e Tijë Zoti Preisdent i Republikës së Shqipërisë Z. Bamir Topi dhe Shkëlqesia e Sajë Kryetarja e Kuvendit të Shqipërisë Znj. Jozefina Topalli Çoba kanë bërë një deklarat publike për çështjen në fjalë andaj emri ka kaluar në proçedim e kështu nuk është aktualisht i vlefshëm përderisa nuk kanë mabruar proçedura e rishikimit të titullit. Ju duhet të më kuptoni se jemi i vetmi vend në botë që ka dekoruar një njeri që ska bërë asgjë për të qënë hero i popullit por përkundrazi ka qënë tiran dhe dikattor (ashtu siç shkruhet në tekstet e historisë së Shqipërisë. http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Irvi_Hyka —Preceding unsigned comment added by Irvi Hyka (talk • contribs) 15:17, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Unë nuk kam asnjë urrjetje apo diçka me diktatorin, atë e gjykon historia për mua të gjith ato që kan drejtuar shtetin shqipar veçmas Ismail Qemailit dhe Fan Nolit nuk janë veç qeveriar diletant dhe antishqipatr (ky sëhtë mednimi im personal). Por kur pashë se emra të nderuar i bashkangjtej edhe ky emër mu duk e pa arsyshme të ishte aty. Mund të mbajë ndonjë dekorat tjetër si Hero i Punës, apo ndonjë jetër. Hero i Popullit është diçka tjetër. Dëgjova deklaratën e numrit 1 dhe 2 të shtetit shqiptar e andaj u binda të ndryshoj. Irvi Hyka (talk —Preceding undated comment added 15:35, 18 April 2010 (UTC).

Kështu mendoi edhe unë që historia duhet të gjykoj të mirat dhe të këqijat e çdo perjudhe historike.

Për mua është e gabuar ajo që po bëhet me monarkin, duke e ringritur në qell. Çdo sistem ka të mirat dhe të kqijat e tijë. Po këto pseudo historianët tanë nuk i kuptojn pasi ato s'janë historian por politikan. Irvi Hyka (talk —Preceding undated comment added 15:50, 18 April 2010 (UTC).

Kosovo topic ban

Hi, Sulmues. Tell me, aren't you Kosovo topic banned? Can you explain me this? League of Peć Are you excused for this article? Can i see that diff? All best. --Tadija 14:31, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Response given here. --Sulmues _talk 14:36, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

I dont see that, permission is valid only for League of Prizren. --Tadija 14:38, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

That's not how I read it. The League of Peja is a continuation of the League of Prizren. They shared the same platforms not reached by the League of Prizren and the latter was continued by League of Prizren former members. --Sulmues _talk 14:39, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Common sense

This needs to stop. He was born of ethnic Greek parents, therefore he is not Greek? Where do you come up with this stuff? Athenean (talk) 19:14, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

I think that a Greek and Albanian wikipedians cooperation board will give solutions to several issues what's your opinion on this?Alexikoua (talk) 20:24, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

I think it would be a terrific idea. We all are sick wikipedians anyways, think of one another every day, :-). --_Sulmues 20:30, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Offer

THanks for the offer. I'm obviously avoiding the Greek/Albanian debate - so I'm unlikely to get involved there. (I'm concious that this note may be read by those involved - so can I just record that these squabbles are unlikely to attract new objective editors.) So please have a look at my contributions list and just ... join in. I'm currently looking at an Anglo Indian History painting by an Anglo German artist. Do look .... its in my sandbox but I'm happy for others to edit. Cheers Victuallers (talk) 19:44, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Lufta e Gjormit

Can you find a picture of the painting?--— ZjarriRrethues —  21:09, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikiproject Albania

Isn't it an idea to create an prominent squad of the most active members, maybe a group of 5 persons, so people can understand fast where to send any question or problem? --Vinie007 14:57, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

BTW, check His talk page!, i got sick of his milosovic propaganda, so i synicly awarded him with a barnstar. --Vinie007 15:16, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Albanian Football

Hi there, I was wondering if I could get any help creating and updating Albanian football pages on wikipedia. I have wanted to get in contact with you before but have only just realised how its done lol ---- oltianruci

Tirana WikiProject

Check this out -->

• WP:TIR

--Vinie007 15:52, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Notification

I mentioned your name in a proposal I made at WP:AE, in the thread about Kedadi . Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:37, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Recruiting

Can you translate this please? It appears that I am mentioned. Athenean (talk) 16:37, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Do you need a translation of my part or of the whole paragraph? And why do you need it?--_Sulmues 16:57, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

I am mentioned. I would like to know what is said about me. Athenean (talk) 17:06, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Where? In the whole passage or in my statement? --_Sulmues 17:21, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

A translation of your statement would suffice. Athenean (talk) 17:33, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

And why do you need it? --_Sulmues 17:38, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm just curious as to what you say about me. Athenean (talk) 17:49, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

If it's sheer curiosity, I don't have the time, but if you tell me one good reason for the translation that will contribute to the English project, I'll translate it for you. --_Sulmues 17:51, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

You seem to have plenty of time to launch into interminable diatribes against me and touch them up continuously. Your refusal speaks volumes. Athenean (talk) 17:57, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm not refusing, I'm just asking you how my contributions in another project will help this project. --_Sulmues 17:58, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Your "contributions" on that project apparently consist of attempting to disrupt this project, namely by recruiting others to your battles on the English wikipedia. Come on, we both know what's going on here. And this, only a week after you were warned to cease and desist from WP:BATTLE behavior . That is the epitome of bad-faith. Athenean (talk) 18:25, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

That project is very inactive and to me worthless. It's a translation of foreign topics and OR of Albanian topics. No citations are used and honestly I don't know what is the value of an article without proper sources. That's why I am not very eager to join that project fully: it's too much work and I lack a lot of Albanian books to help in those articles. When I entered that project I was unaware of those issues, however the reason to join that project wasn't sure recruiting people. You need to understand that a user's behavior is not considered accross all wiki projects.

And please do not mention bad faith as I could make too many accusations to you on that. I think you need to stop accusing improperly Albanian editors. I think you did an excellent job on reporting Jagged85 and I endorsed you on that. However, you have to understand that seeing the Albanian as the ennemy and trying to kick them out without properly collaborating with them is really annoying.

Take for example what you did with me. I had no clue who you were until I was reported by you in Moreschi's page and got a block for Kosovo. That wasn't nice at all because I had obtained consensus to have the single infobox. It was a 10-2 consensus and a very good one. I think Moreschi hurried too much because he just had faith in your report, without evaluating the situation properly. You also have reported many Albanian contributors as socks only on the patterns of their edits, and have pushed to have them blocked as socks when those people could have been innocent.

You have a great knowledge of the Balkan areas, but are using it often times improperly and with too much bias. Creating a climate of understanding between Albanian editors and Greek editors includes that you hold off from continuously reporting Albanian editors. Both Albanians and Greeks do not come out very well from these clashes. --_Sulmues 18:41, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Were you or were you not attempting to recruit people on the Albanian wikipedia to your cause here? Your above nice words notwithstanding, it's very hard to assume good faith when you do something like that, barely a week after you were explicitly warned not to engage in such behavior. What would you do in my place, honestly now? Athenean (talk) 19:07, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

When you became afraid that I would report you for your battleground attitude after I discovered what you had been up to in the Albanian wiki, you were all about "let's cooperate" and "let's not see each other as the enemy". Yet, here you are doing precisely the opposite . How hypocritical. Athenean (talk) 19:12, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

That's your speculation and Sandstein clearly told you that what I do in other projects in none of your business . If I were in your place, I would

1. Prepare the Greek side along with Alexikoua, possibly Cplakidas, and Ptolion and give solid contributions to an Albanian-Greek common pannel.
2. Endorse FPS's proposal of a team 3RR or 1RR rule.
3. Give myself an objective of NOT REPORTING any Albanian contributor for the next three months.

This is the only way you'll have any credibility in my eyes. --_Sulmues 19:30, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

"Your eyes" are of no interest to me. Athenean (talk) 19:53, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Request for clarification

The Arbitrators have discussed your Request for clarification. Jehochman has agreed to take over Moreschi's role in this matter. Unless you have any further questions, the Request clarification will be archived in 48 hours.

For and on behalf of the Arbitration Committee -- Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 19:57, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback. Will follow your advise. --_Sulmues 20:11, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Following up from Alexandr Dmitri's comments above, the request has now been archived. I also made a brief comment on the talk page of the arb case (here) summarising what happened. Any issues, please give me a shout. Lankiveil 10:43, 2 May 2010 (UTC).

Hi

Hi, who is User:Alexikoua? He ruin my contributions!Stupidus Maximus (talk) 18:06, 30 April 2010 (Utc)

Sock

I am his grandchild, so me and my brother both like him very much! --94.163.2.197 (talk) 06:23, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

BTW, last message of Vinie007, i am on someone others PC because i am on holiday. --94.163.2.197 (talk) 06:24, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Re Brkic

Hehe... that´s cool, I mean, even more if we think on the "special" relationship between "us"... I really hope this can further help to make people understand that we are neighbours and we really should work together. If we look better, if we cooperate we would eventually make life worste to all mafiosi people, gun and other stuff smugglers, corrupt politicians... They are the only ones winning while making us beleave that we are enemies. While they were profiting turning us against one another, normal people just lost their money, their nerves, lost..., well, some even everything. We should cooperate more, even if just to make those evil people lifes worste... hehe.

Listen, I remembered you the other day. I was looking to some Albanian football forums and I finded out that your wikiname "Sulmues" means something like "Striker", right? I may not understand nothing of Albanian, but following some logic I came to this conclusion. Am I right? Sulmues means striker?

Another thing. I was disapointed with you! You told me to see information about some Yugoslav, you said international, player named Božidar Sandić... well, I lost time looking around and I found 0 (meaning ZERO) info about him. All international players (even if had played 1 minute) are listed at the reprezentacija.rs website. There is no mentioning about him anywhere... There are even some books about football in Yugoslavia from before the WWII, and also, nothing...

Regarding the Brkic page, you don´t need to have the Apolonia repeated in the infobox. It already says that he is Apolonia player in the years, 2008- , and the loans, like this one in his case to Dinamo Tirana, have nothing to do with it, you can/should continue adding stats and goals for Apolonia, at the Apolonia place. I´m not sure if I said this right, but resumingly, you can eliminate the 2nd Apolonia, since the Dinamo Tirana was only a loan...

Anyway, what´s your club from Albania? I have a friend, since he is from Shkodra, he is a Vlaznia crazy lunatic... :) . My club is FK Partizan, and our worste defeat ever was against Flamurtari in UEFA Cup... It was really bad... Hehe, but maybe it was good, so Albanian clubs should stop being so underestimate! You know, I live in Portugal, and here happend the same in the national team matches against Albania... I knew it was going to be hard, and I just loved watching the C.Ronaldo´s, Deco´s, Simão and co. suffering a lot in Tirana... They touth that it will be easy and they almost lost! I must confess you that I even started cheering for you, as it would have been a great lesson of football. If I remember well, it ended with a suffering 1-0 for Portugal.

Hehe, sorry for the long comment, but I have to go now. Best regards Sulmues! FkpCascais (talk) 07:10, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I must have been drunk... Here is the entire biography (in Serbian) on Božidar Sandić... He played only one match for A team, but scored 2 goals! Those are the players needed this days. FkpCascais (talk) 06:05, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Anastas Avramidhi-Lakçe

From the moment I read that article I was 90% sure that it reminded me of something. And today I found out what it was .--— ZjarriRrethues —  10:45, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

I saw. Good job in improving the article! --_Sulmues 15:52, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Sanction notice

Further to this arbitration enforcement request and by the power vested in me under Misplaced Pages:ARBMAC#Discretionary_sanctions, you are hereby placed on a reverting restriction on all Balkans-related articles in the following terms:

• You may make no more than one revert per rolling 24-hour period on these articles
• If you do make a revert on such an article, you must post an explanation of why you have made the revert, to be at least 50 words and in English, to the talk page of the article, within 30 minutes of posting.
• "Balkans-related" is to be construed widely. If you are not certain whether a certain article is Balkans-related, assume that it is.

This restriction applies until the end of June. You may appeal the restriction to me, to WP:ANI, or to the Arbitration Committee. Stifle (talk) 10:54, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations

Alexikoua (talk) 05:05, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi there. I believe that Ismail Qemali was a Zosimaia graduate too. I might find some additional info about his studies there.Alexikoua (talk) 20:35, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Hë mo

Hë mo Sulo, ç'bën, mo?Stupidus Maximus (talk) 14:54, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Kë kanë ndëshkuar në WP? Stupidus Maximus (talk) 15:09, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

greek albanian team is nice but...!

I have tried before and i understand you , but some greeks and other admin that support them are interested to pervert Albanian history ,they also "contribute" and "protect" Albanian articules and they work as a team of kleftis..dodona —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.107.219.35 (talk) 20:41, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Now this is interesting. Constantine who awakes from the dead, :-). I have seen your contributions and I thank you for them. However since you are banned and I guess you might feel like you were banned unjustly, you may still have a second chance in Misplaced Pages. Please file a good appeal and you'll be readmitted. I don't think that avoiding your ban, the way you are doing through this posting in my talkpage will help your appeal. Just address an admin and he/she will tell you how to be readmitted. IMO the Albanians should stop playing the victims and write about Albania topics the way users like user:Dori, user:Aigest, user:Balkanian`s word, user:ZjarriRrethues do. There is no other way out. We are here to represent our nation and should behave according to Misplaced Pages standards. I started the board and the cooperation with the Greeks because in peace we should use peaceful ways, not anything else. --_Sulmues 20:50, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

On a related note. I went through your edits and saw that you were banned seemingly for having used fringe theories to support your edits. In addition other nicks were blocked/banned because they were tagged as your socks (see here). If you were behind those edits, you understand what damage you bring to the image of the Albanian wikipedians. If other people were behind those edits, again it's a disservice that you bring to Albanian wikipedians because they are labeled like you. I think that every Albanian wikipedian has a heavy burden and responsibility of bringing the truth through reliable sources. I think that you have to promise user:Future Perfect at Sunrise that you won't use fringe theories, i.e. sources that are not reliable, and I believe that something might be done. The Albanian-Greek board is there for that purpose: we agree upon a source and then we use it in the article. Fjalet e teperta jane fukarallek. --_Sulmues 21:16, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

po jane ...une mund te them se te pakten kam "luftuar" athere kur nuk ka patur fare ose ndonje kontribues shqiptar...me vjen keq ta degjoj nga ty por cilat sipas teje jane "fringe theories" sipas teje..?! Per referencat kam shfrytezuar bile referenca online te oxfordit Une kam qene i mbeshtetur nga ata pak perdorues Shqiptare bile dhe te huaj...Jam perpjekur te ndryshoj artikullin me user:pelasgic moon prej muajsh e ata nje ekip i plote perfshire admin qe ti permende hoqen gjithcka e nxorren se ideja se Shqiptaret jane te lidhur me pelasget eshte vetem nacionaliste ....Mos kerko te besh kompromis me ta ,interesat tona jane krejt te kunderta ...une u perpoqa gjate per kompromis por ata duan te nxjerrin ne pah ne artikuj ..ate cka u intereson..si psh Shqiptaret jane te huaj ne Epir ! Nuk kane lidhje me pelasget..! Ka koloni greke ne Shqiperi dhe jo kulture vendasa ! Arbanitet jane te ardhur ne Greqi e jo autoktone ! Gjuha shqipe nuk ka lidhje me pelasgiken e as me "antiken Greke" ,,Jam kurioz si do te besh kompromis ,jo ne kurriz te njerezeve te tu besoj ...! Nejse problemi me ne eshte se secilit i duket vetja me i mire se tjetri ..! Pac fat..! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.107.219.35 (talk) 12:35, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

see here http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Pelasgians/Archive_4 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.107.219.35 (talk) 13:11, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

and here http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:PelasgicMoon#Your_view —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.107.219.35 (talk) 13:14, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Degjo, une po te them hajde mbrapsht, nuk po hedh poshte punen tende. Une te dua mbrapsht duke hequr vallen ashtu si e kerkon puna. Le t'i ndajme gjerat njehere. Une nuk dua t'i futem shume pellazgeve pasi dihet qe nuk flisnin greqisht. Pune tjeter qe greket ja fusin pordhes me shprehje si "greek world" qe ne fjaline e pare te artikullit, kur ne fjaline tjeter thone "before the advent of the Greek language", cka eshte kontradiktore. Une e di punen tende dhe te falenderoj. Po ne s'arrijme dot te provojme ne Misplaced Pages prejardhjen nga iliret, qe jane 1000 vjet pas pellazgeve e per te cilet ka shume me teper te dhena. Ne duhet te punojme me burimet e Shaban Demirajt e Myzafer Korkutit, s'kemi nevoje per shume gjera te tjera. Greket perdorin Saqeralliun, pse mos perdorim Demirajn? Burimet do i diskutojme ne bordin greko-shqiptar e pastaj do i perdorim. Keshtu do funksionoje. Tani artikujt per mesjeten shqiptare jane per faqe te zeze, per te mos folur per shekujt XIX e XX. Rilindja Kombetare duhet rishkruar nga e para. Me pak fjale, nuk ia vlen te perjashtohesh per pellazget. Edhe une "luftova" e c'fitova? Per pak u perjashtova per wp:battleground. E pas meje jam i sigurt qe do "dilnin" si kerpudha "socks"-at e mi, njerez qe magar s'kishin fare te benin me mua.

Ne dhjetor 2009 kishim 900 artikuj, tani ne maj 2010 kemi 2700 artikuj. Une dua te kemi 5-6 mije artikuj brenda 2-3 vjetesh qe te jemi te krahasueshem me, te themi, kroatet. Greket kane 21 mije artikuj tani per tani. Ne kemi per te "tag" Albania TF shume artikuj te Malesise, Camerise, dhe pjeses shqiptare te Maqedonise, pasi per kete pati konsensus ne Albania TF talk page, besoj. Detyra jone eshte te behemi projekt serioz ku te kete 12-13 active wikipedian e te pakten 5-6 prej tyre te jene te besueshem. Ne duhet te kemi nje administrator shqiptar ne Misplaced Pages sic ishte dikur user:Dori, po nuk behesh dot administrator nese ke "blocks". Cdo "lufte" vret vetem luftetarin dhe ate qe perjashtohet, ashtu si dhe projektin qe perfaqeson. Keshtu funksionon ne projektin anglisht. Te lutem shih burimet e user:Aigest ketu dhe rikonsidero. Projekti eshte i rendesishem per kombin tone dhe duhet te sillemi ashtu si e kerkon puna: cdo perjashtim eshte ne demin tone personal dhe te paraqitjes se shqiptareve ne Misplaced Pages.

Edhe nje here po them rikonsidero sjellen tende dhe sill nje apel te besueshem. Shkruaj dicka te sinqerte dhe kthehu mbrapsht. Do desha te kthehesh edhe Taulant23 dhe ata te tjeret qe jane perjashtuar nga raportet e user:Athenean. Ne kemi diferenca me greket po kemi edhe gjera qe na bashkojne. Nuk dua te behemi gazi i Wikipedias me grindjet tona, pasi me shume humbim ne se greket. Ne duhet te shohim shtepine tone e te permiresojme artikujt tone. Pastaj te shohim cfare burimesh mund te perdorim qe te shkruajme per autoktonine e shqiptareve ne Ballkan, pasi greket tani per tani na e mohojne. Po per kete duhen njerez me dashuri per atdheun, po edhe me ftohtesi gjykimi e pragmatizem. --_Sulmues 13:51, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

ne rregull dhe FLM ,jam dakort por une smund te kthehem mbrapsh jam "dele e zeze" ketu ..kam provuar shume here te fuse burime te provuara e te besueshme por beso wiki eshte e grekeve ..Disa prej tyre bile perdorin emra te ndryshem kurse administratoret kryesor i mbeshtesin..Ju pergezoj per punen tuaj vazhdoni ,une kam bere lojen time e jam bere nje mit ketu ne wiki ..Donja tju tregoja atyre se ne nuk mund te manipulohemi dhe se jemi te pa perballueshem,dhe see verteta nuk fshihet...Ne fakt shqiptaret kane mbushur internetin per te verteten per historine e tyre dhe gjuhen e tyre ,ata do dalin qesharak me ne fund ..e di bile disa prej tyre dine Shqip e jane Arbanite nje lufte brenda nje race ...Nejse ,te uroj suksese.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.107.219.35 (talk) 19:02, 12 May 2010 (UTC) Sipas kesaj ti do trajtohesh gjithmone me dinjitet. Perjashtimet nuk jane kurre te perjetshme. Ndoshta sot je i hidheruar, po nese neser nderron mendje, te lutem me thuaj nese mund te te ndihmoj kur te vije ajo kohe. Mirupafshim. --_Sulmues 19:26, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Polyphonic songs in Epirus

Can you talk with Alexikoua, because I only reordered a section in alphabetical order, not adding anything. Stupidus Maximus (talk) 19:24, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

OK. Stupidus Maximus (talk) 19:41, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Pashalik of Shkodra

Thanks for your comments.

Please could you clarify? The bibliography links (as far as possible) to the relevant Google Books page - is this what you mean? Sorry if I'm being dumb! gergis (talk) 08:54, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

How nice of you

So you looked at my contribs, saw what I wrote on Cat and the Owl's talkpage, and RAN to Stifle to try and get him punished. How slimy. With one face you say you want to "collaborate" and with the other you run to the admins to try and get those oh-so-hated Greek users blocked. Did you try to talk to Cat and the Owl first? Of course not. Such behavior disgusts me, it's called backstabbing in English. I am done with you, and I am withdrawing from your stupid "collaboration" board, which, considering your recent behavior, has become completely meaningless. Goodbye, and stay off my talkpage. Athenean (talk) 03:35, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

When you'll learn some Italian, you'll know what "Chi di spada ferisce, di spada perisce" means. Feel free to get out of any "stupid" initiatives and try to write ONE article. And learn from Alexikoua. --_Sulmues 12:55, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and just so you know, Kedadi violated his ban on May 10th with this edit: . I wasn't going to say anything to the admins, but that's off the table now. Athenean (talk) 03:44, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

No he didn't, because he's not allowed to edit articles not article talkpages.--— ZjarriRrethues —  09:59, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

How nice of you indeed!

Hey, Sulmues, you really want to get me blocked, so every article I edit which is "Greek" in a way or another is "Balkan-related" article, therefore according to you I should be blocked for editing them? In that case let me help you, here are some more "Balkan-related" articles which I edited, you forgot to mention them in your report to Stilfe:

• Hermes was Greek, so according to you it must be a "Balkan-related" article I edited, so I should be blocked for that.
• Ethics is a Greek word, so according to you another "Balkan-related" article I edited, so I should be blocked for that.
• Clergy, another Greek word, according to you another "Balkan-related" article I edited, so I should be blocked for that.
• Paranoia, another Greek word, according to you another "Balkan-related" article I edited, so I should be blocked for that.
• Souvlaki, according to you another "Balkan-related" article I edited, so I should be blocked for that.
• Kaleidoscope, another Greek word, according to you another "Balkan-related" article I edited, so I should be blocked for that.
• Climate of Greece, according to you another "Balkan-related" article I edited, so I should be blocked for that.
• Hypatia, a Greek philosopher, according to you another "Balkan-related" article I edited, so I should be blocked for that.
• Eczema, another Greek word, according to you another "Balkan-related" article I edited, so I should be blocked for that.
• Encyclopedia, another Greek word, according to you another "Balkan-related" article I edited, so I should be blocked for that.
• Melanie, a Greek name, according to you another "Balkan-related" article I edited, so I should be blocked for that.
• The longest word in literature is Greek, according to you another "Balkan-related" article I edited, so I should be blocked for that.
• Pea comes from Greek, according to you another "Balkan-related" article I edited, so I should be blocked for that.
• Pasta comes from Greek, oh no, another "Balkan-related" article I edited, so I should be blocked for that.
• Chyme comes from Greek too, another "Balkan-related" article I edited, so I should be blocked for that.
• Proboscis, a Greek word, according to you another "Balkan-related" article I edited, so I should be blocked for that.
• Parasitism, a Greek word, here a created a hole new section, perhaps I deserve to be blocked for over a year for that!
• Pre-Greek substrate, according to you another "Balkan-related" article I edited, so I should be blocked for that.
• Protagonist, a Greek word, according to you another "Balkan-related" article I edited, so I should be blocked for that.
• Thorax is Greek too, according to you another "Balkan-related" article I edited, so I should be blocked for that.
• Phobia, a Greek word, according to you another "Balkan-related" article I edited, so I should be blocked for that.
• Moira, Greek given name, according to you another "Balkan-related" article I edited, so I should be blocked for that.
• Monotheism, a Greek word, according to you another "Balkan-related" article I edited, so I should be blocked for that.

You have my sympathy. (talk) 15:15, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

I can help you with My Big Fat Greek Wedding. That is also Balkan related, so yes, you should follow the rules. Try also with miller, which seemingly comes from milla --_Sulmues 15:17, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Nice respond, you just proved yourself. The Cat and the Owl (talk) 17:48, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

Why thank you kindly *blush*. I've got just the place for it, right over my monitor. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 22:05, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Ismail Kadare

Hello, Thank you for the Barnstar. I probably do not have any more to contribute about him but hope you will be able to improve the article.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 08:00, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

are there problems? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stupidus Maximus (talk • contribs) 08:28, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Can you also take part in Talk:Nikos Stylos and in Talk:Souliotes. Thanks, Balkanian`s word (talk) 10:03, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Also, as I saw you can speak German, can you please translate me what does this say, on page 8, about the population in Epirus?Balkanian`s word (talk) 10:06, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks,Balkanian`s word (talk) 12:01, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Religion in Albania

Hello. I have been away for many months now. Saw your message in my talk page first now. I still believe and Misplaced Pages says also that World Christian Encyclopedia is biased. World Muslim Encyclopedia (is such thing exists) would also be biased. They both have interest in increasing the number of followers of their religion. It would be interesting to know where WCE have their numbers from. Happy to see new Albanian wikis coming and contributing on Albanian-related articles. Have a nice time here.--NOAH (talk) 21:36, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Al. Madgearu

What's the problem with this author? He is a famous historian in his country. Villick (talk) 14:36, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

I can't understand why this happened.Villick (talk) 14:37, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Lunxhery

According to the quote, where does it say that this happened during the specific period (about Lunxhery)? I guess that some rewording on this passage is needed, in order to include both groups.Alexikoua (talk) 22:03, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Arsenikk

Hi - just fyi, I undid your !vote because the Arsenikk RfA was already closed as successful. Regards,  7  22:27, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Piana degli Albanesi

Great work on Piana degli Albanesi. Now that I found that article I'll start working on it too.--— ZjarriRrethues —  19:12, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Beratinus

Kenyon wrote: "A note in the MS. states that the loss of the other two Gospels is due to "the Franks of Champagne," i.e. probably some of the Crusaders, who may have seen it at Patmos, where it is believed formerly to have been." It was only assumption. Gregory even did not try to speculate about place of origin of the manuscript. Metzger too. Perhaps Ballsh is more possible. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 19:56, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Weird addition

Can you please explain what's this ]? Since the existing source you brought says nothing like this I suggest you remove it. Alexikoua (talk) 21:13, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Sure. Alexikoua (talk) 21:21, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi there, i just wanted to say thanks for the help and that I think I'm starting to get the hang of all the minor details aswell now Oltianruci (talk) 23:23, 1 June 2010 (GMT) Te kuptoj shume mire, well basicly sometimes I'm too lazy to bother with refrences thats all LOL Oltianruci (talk) 23:27, 1 June 2010 (GMT)

Falemnderit Sulmues per cmimin! Eshte nje kenaqesi e madhe kur i sherben ketij vendi kaq te vuajtur por edhe te vecante. Falemnderit! Shpresoj qe perditesimet e mia do te reflektohen edhe tek faqet ne shqip dhe gjuhe te tjera!Shikuesi3 (talk) 22:49, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Barnstars

Thanks a lot Sulmues, much appreciated! If there is any info you could add on the Berat article, please do so! Regards, Constantine ✍ 10:08, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Babel

I don't have any Babel box now. To tell you the truth I'm far below sq-1, but if I had I would gladly add sq-1. Just don't ask me something in Albanian... That priftet Grek-Ortodox means priest Greek-Orthodox (according to Theodoros Kavalliotis) is easy to understand.Alexikoua (talk) 13:53, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Essad/Essat

I admit that's confusing, but Es(s)at Pasha of Ioannina, the Ottoman General, has nothing to do with Essad Pasha Toptani of Shkoder, the Albanian politician ].(Here is a brief bio ] Alexikoua (talk) 06:15, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Slow down

The glee with which you are going around "stroking" crazymartini's edits is disturbing. It's like you're getting off on it. They guy has an unblock request pending, so I would slow down if I were you. If he is unblocked, I would expect you to undo yourself. Athenean (talk) 19:25, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Check again, they just asked him to post the unblock request on his first account. But let me ask this, why are you so maniacally insistent on removing each and every little thing he ever wrote with such alacrity? Why do you hate the guy so much? It's like, you can't contain yourself with joy at the opportunity of pouncing on a Greek editor who was banned. Athenean (talk) 21:17, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Actually what's disturbing is your obsession with my feelings. --_Sulmues 21:19, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Your behavior show a clear battleground mentality. You are acting as if it's Greeks vs. Albanians, with the Albanians having scored a major victory. So you are running around in a rather childish manner, trumpeting at every opportunity "Look! A Greek user was banned! I am removing every single thing he ever wrote! Because he was banned!". Ultimately, whether you chose to embarass yourself in this manner is your choice, however, the day may come where your behavior may count against you. Athenean (talk) 22:01, 8 June 2010 (UTC)