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| Those are all websites you gave me, so I guess I'll have to check my library for his diary. Funny it never occurred to me he might have one. ] | Those are all websites you gave me, so I guess I'll have to check my library for his diary. Funny it never occurred to me he might have one. ] | ||
| Lir, I have Las Casas book in front of me. He writes about what happened in the fifty years after Columbus landed in the New World. He writes NOTHING about what Columbus did before that. He writes next to nothing about Columbus himself. What exactly are you referring to in the book? ] | |||
| Actually, Lir, you just cluttered my talk page. I am not denying he was involved in the slave trade. I am agree that what happened in the Indies in the 16th century was one of the worst cases of genocide ever inflicted on a population. The question is whether his role in the slave trade (if, indeed, he was involved) before his voyage across the Atlantic is the defining statement of his life's career. BTW, he was also trading wool and other fabrics (that's from his diary, which you like to mention) and looking for cheaper routes to China and India. Slaves were one commodity he may have dealt with, that is all. Oh, and before you call me a racist, I develop curricula on genocide professionally. ] | |||
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Hi Lir. Great stuff you're writing. Tarquin
- Right. Great stuff. Like this little gem he added to Iowa State- "Common pasttimes at Iowa State include drinking, smoking, tripping, and complaining." He's a regular Noah Webster. David dePaoli
Hey Lir, you might want to check out Misplaced Pages:How to rename a page which explains how to cleanly move/rename a page while keeping its edit history intact. --Brion 23:52 Oct 3, 2002 (UTC)
- While you're at it, don't forget to take a quick look over the Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions. --Brion 00:42 Oct 4, 2002 (UTC)
In reference to the question you posted to Mav (and please use user talk pages for that sort of thing rather than the user page itself), you can find most of what you'd want to know about character sets at Misplaced Pages:Special characters.
Lir, if you would offer some scintilla of proof that Christopher Columbus was a slave trader prior to his 1492 voyage, people will stop reverting what you have insisted on putting into his article. But as long as you just keep changing it back without proof, people will keep reverting it again. -- Zoe
It's the responsibility of the person who MAKES a claim to substantiate it, it is not the responsibility of those who question it to have to dig up evidence. You sound like Helga. Again, if you can't be bothered to prove your claim, it will get reverted. -- Zoe
You want to insult me, go ahead and do that, it won't change the fact that you have shown no proof of your claim. Therefore, every time you claim that he was a slave trader, you will get reverted. I'll put the article on my watch list to keep track of it. -- Zoe
what proof do you want? Im not insulting you. You are insulting me by attacking what I have written without justification. Any iota of attempt on your part to verify this basic fact would reveal that I am correct.
HOW DARE YOU!!! You don't KNOW me, and to CLAIM that I am a racist because YOU refuse to JUSTIFY your claim is slander. I am FURIOUS! All it would take would be for you to offer ONE scintilla of proof, but you have refused to do that. I will NOT back down on this. -- Zoe
I've heard the slave trading bits before too, but never a citation. Could you provide that please? I'd like to look it up. And no, don't tell me to look it up now, I've tried already and not been successful (unless you count various webpages, which, well, I don't.) I'm not so good at research, so you'll have to point me to an author and a book title. :-) --KQ
Okay, I've poked around online (it's 11 p.m. Saturday, the library is closed) for Columbus information, and the one clear fact is that Columbus's wife was the daughter of a navigator who worked for Prince Henry the Navigator. Various sources found by googling have him exploring around Thule, or trading to Madeira, or otherwise exploring or working on a sailing ship. Vicki Rosenzweig
Those are all websites you gave me, so I guess I'll have to check my library for his diary. Funny it never occurred to me he might have one. --KQ