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Thylacine

Hi Crotalus horridus,

The capitalisation of species names is a well-established convention, particularly so in the higher taxa, and is not done without good reason. We capitalise the formal common name of a particular exact species. We do not capitalise the names of groups of species, nor do we capitalise descriptive terms. When you think it through, this makes good sense and is essential to avoid ambiguity.

For example, if I write I saw a black rat today it tells you that I saw a dark-coloured creature of the genus Rattus and of unspecified species. But if I write I saw a Black Rat today, this tells you something entirely different: it means I saw a creature of unspecfied colour, but that it was Rattus rattus, the Black Rat. Similarly, a laughing kookaburra could be any of the four species of kookaburra giving its usual territorial call, but a Laughing Kookaburra is always Dacelo novaeguineae and never Dacelo gaudichaud, Dacelo leachii, or Dacelo tyro.

Now if we were talking about a group of species — hopping mice, for example, then you are entirely correct to insist on lower case (except, of course, where there is a proper noun contained within the group name: Australo-Papuan babblers, for example). But individual species names within that group are identified as such. For scientific names, we italicise and capitalise the genus, not the species: e.g., Malurus cyaneus. For common names, we capitalise all words except those immediately after hyphens: e.g., Superb Fairy-wren. The Thylacine is a particular exact species, and as such, it is always capitalised.

On the old, more-or-less forgotten names "Tasmanian Tiger" and "Tasmanian Wolf", I take your point. My view is that these names are well and truly obsolete now and should only be mentioned in the body text, however this is a matter of degree and I grant that opinions will differ. I think that, bolded, they add more confusion than help - but there is room to differ here and I hld the view only weakly. BTW, while I was typing this, I see that you have messaged me. Thanks for listening.

Best regards,

Tannin 09:53, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

That sounds like a sensible and mutually agreeable solution. I'll implement it in a moment. Thankyou for being easy to work with. Tannin 07:49, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

WDC

I don't think the WDC chips are "conceptually seperate" from the 6502. They are all software compatible, and some are even pin compatible. Further, WDC as a company is all about the 6502. They don't do anything else. Mirror Vax 19:44, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

• This has been remedied. The 65xx CPUs, including WDC models, are now all in one template. Crotalus horridus 00:28, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Weasel words

Template:Weasel words has been nominated for deletion. It's a duplicate of Template:Weasel You are invited to comment on the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Templates for deletion#Template:Weasel words. -- Dpark 16:30, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

By the way, we've standardized on "weasel words" for the original weasel template (the main opponent has switched sides). If that's satisfactory to you, you could mark yours for speedy deletion, so we don't have two, and don't need to bother with the TfD. It's your call, though. -- Dpark 19:11, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Or, if you want, we could make "weasel words" a redirect to "weasel" and close the TfD. It's probably a useful redirect. -- Dpark 19:39, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

I've redirected to Template:weasel and removed the TfD. I didn't remove it from the TfD page, because I'm not sure about the etiquette there, but I struck my comment and noted that we agreed to redirect it. -- Dpark 20:18, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Help!

There is an unregistered user who is constantly vandalizing the Evansville, Indiana page to include a vanity link to his website. The user in question is Evansvilleboneyard and the website in question is Evansville Boneyard. Despite consistent removal by a number of contirbutors, he/she continues to add it back to the Evansville page with such things as "widely read", etc. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest it is encyclopedia worthy and the user should be warned and/or banned. We could really use your help in removing these pointless links and keeping this guy from adding them back.--YHoshua 03:34, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

BASIC "extensions" vs "toolkits"

Hi again, and thanks for the work on the Simons' BASIC article! Regarding such matters, how about strolling by the BASIC toolkit talk page and have your say? --Wernher 07:19, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Amiga

You probably would have noticed this yourself, but your edit to Amiga appears to be based on an old version. Yeah, I've done that too... Mirror Vax 13:18, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Confederate Flag Images

Why did you replace the obsolete Confederate flag image with the tag "rv van"? Image:Navaljack.png has been replaced by Image:Confederate Battle Flag.svg, because the latter image is a vector image, which means it is scalable to any size desired without pixelation. I have nominated Image:Navaljack.png for deletion because it is now obsolete. Crotalus horridus (TALK ● CONTRIBS) 01:08, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

I replaced it because it wasn't working at the time. Glad it is working now. Peckerwood 18:29, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Image:Russian Federation Flag.svg

Did you mark this image for deletion? If so, I will delete it. If not, I will un-tag it. While I have drawn the Image:Flag of Russia.svg, there is some debate about the shade of blue. Zach (Sound Off) 00:43, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for CBMDOS

Thanks for fixing up those annoying errors I left at Commodore DOS (esp. related to SEQ files). Been far too long since I've programmed anything interesting on C64, if I had done that I might have remembered how limited the file access was. D'oh, had forgotten what's life like when you can't really fseek()... =) --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 01:04, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Vote

You can change your vote for whatever reason you want, of course, but I feel I should point out that I'm not prone to edit warring. I've only once been involved in a serious edit war, and that was a year ago, and the circumstances were extreme. In fact I disapprove of edit warring and support the 3RR. Everyking 04:48, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: Personal attacks

I have removed the following statement from Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee Elections January 2006/Vote/Karmafist:

• "but i would support electing Karmafist as most abusive, mendacious, hypocritical, and unfit admin in the WP project."

I feel that this statement constitutes a personal attack, and therefore have removed it. If you disagree with this action, please discuss either on user talk or on the talk page of the Arbcom vote. Crotalus horridus (TALK • CONTRIBS) 04:17, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

thanks for informing me. i reworded it to indicate more of what Karmafist has done rather than simply what he is. i believe this information is important for people to read lest Karma do to them what he has done to me. when an abusive and unfit admin (of whom two of the present ArbCommissioners have voted to desysop him) tries to increase his power by running for ArbCom, there is certainly increased danger of abuse and harrassment to legit editors of WP. r b-j 06:06, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

CSA Naval Jack SVG...

...Great work!!! Keep it up, dude!

Is there a way we could get the 1st, 2nd, 3rd National flags, and the square battle flag in SVG as well (If you are confused, see our article)?. BTW, the flag you uploaded is not the Battle flag! That one is square. Instead, the flag you uploaded is the Naval Jack. - Thanks, Hoshie | 09:45, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Crotalus horridus

I love the username... I have a 4 1/2' female Crotalus horridus atricaudatus at home, and the only guy she ever bit was a drunken idiot who disregarded my warnings and reached into her terrarium and grabbed her. Even then, he carried her around for at least 10 minutes before she tagged him (in the hand, of course). Dick Clark 16:18, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

You have been awarded...a bicycle!

It is up to you if you want to put it on your userpage or not.--Oni Ookami Alfador 21:30, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

No.

For one who thinks process is important, you have fundamentally misunderstood Wikiprocess. If you don't want pages to be edited, don't put them on the site. Radiant_>|< 09:54, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

• Sure, edit it. Just don't mass-blank the contributions of others. Crotalus horridus (TALK • CONTRIBS) 10:04, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Please look up the definition of "blank" in a dictionary. Thank you. I am not talking about IAR, the juxtaposition of IAR and PI is Splash's idea. Nor am I defending juvenile administrators cudgeling others with it. If you look around the Wiki, you'll see people invoking bureaucratic interpretation of the rules on WP:ANI in defense of two obviously disruptive editors, and on DRV in defense of a template created by a troll for trolling purposes. This is what I'm talking about. Do not put words in my mouth, assume I'm promoting unilateralism, and then attack me for that. Radiant_>|< 10:33, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
    • Just a warning: Crotalus has a history of stuff like this. One time he said I gave "no justification" for a change, when in reality, I did, but he didn't like the justification. See here: . MrVoluntarist 14:02, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
      • I fail to see how that is relevant at the moment. Radiant_>|< 07:00, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
        • Good point, what does his improper use of terminology have to do with anything here? What was I thinking? MrVoluntarist 04:07, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
• You're right, I shouldn't have done it that way and won't be doing that again. However, what I'm afraid of is that PI is turning into a problem. Specifically, the concept is good, and I can understand why the so-called "IAR crowd" (really just three or four editors) is so impopular - but PI is being abused to endorse sticking to process even in spite of common sense (see ANI and DRV discussions recently). What we really need is some middle ground that "process is generally important but there are some reasonable moments when it's not", and I'm not sure how to get there. Radiant_>|< 07:00, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for your supporting vote! With a 71/1/0 vote, I've been given sysop privileges! Just like any admin, I'm open to suggestions about backlogs or problems to look at.

Now, to go about disrup—improving Misplaced Pages...

heheheheheh...

Ashibaka tock 00:15, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Good Idea

Great work. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 21:02, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank You

I, too, am really frustrated with this whole userbox thing. Thanks for trying to be reasonable, I appreciate it. --Dragon695 03:40, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

User_talk:Netoholic

I hate to seem like a wiki-stalker, but since I have also had problems with Netoholic regarding templates and his NetBot, and on the assumption that you might not be watching the page, you should be aware that Netoholic removed your warning from his User talk page with no explanation, which in my estimation is poor form at the very least. MCB 03:14, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

• Yes, I noticed that. Crotalus horridus (TALK • CONTRIBS) 03:15, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for stepping down from the Head Clerk's position. I suspect this action will help to restore community confidence in both you and the Clerk's office. It took some courage to give this up for the good of the community. My own opinion of you has improved significantly as a result of this decision on your part. Crotalus horridus (TALK • CONTRIBS) 17:22, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

I didn't step down from the Clerk's office to "restore community confidence in and the Clerk's office." I stepped down because I'm fucking sick and tired of the constant harassment and perfidy from Misplaced Pages's so-called community. I stepped down because I no longer want anything to do with the community. I could care less if the community has any confidence in me or in the Clerk's office; I don't need the community's confidence to edit the encyclopedia, and the Clerk's office is unimportant anyway. Now, unless you have something to say to me about an article I've edited, please stay off my talk page. Thank you. Kelly Martin (talk) 03:56, 3 February 2006 (UTC)