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:Hmm. Looking at the block log, this is their ''second'' six-month rangeblock. I think the best idea may be to point the IP to ] and ask them to create an account there. If they would like to edit, that will probably be the best bet. Also, to answer your question, I don't think exempting one IP from a rangeblock is possible. Cheers! <font color="darkorange">]</font><b><font color="midnightblue"><big>]</big></font></b><font color="red">]</font> 11:45, 31 August 2010 (UTC) | :Hmm. Looking at the block log, this is their ''second'' six-month rangeblock. I think the best idea may be to point the IP to ] and ask them to create an account there. If they would like to edit, that will probably be the best bet. Also, to answer your question, I don't think exempting one IP from a rangeblock is possible. Cheers! <font color="darkorange">]</font><b><font color="midnightblue"><big>]</big></font></b><font color="red">]</font> 11:45, 31 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
::Yeah, exempting one IP from a rangeblock seemed a little too magical, even for me ;-) I've let the IP know about ] and promised to help them with any problems they have. Thanks for your help! ] 11:52, 31 August 2010 (UTC) | ::Yeah, exempting one IP from a rangeblock seemed a little too magical, even for me ;-) I've let the IP know about ] and promised to help them with any problems they have. Thanks for your help! ] 11:52, 31 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
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recovering deleted contributions
Hey, I saw your name on a list of people I should talk to. I'm new to contributing so forgive me, I added to the page for Mark Funkhouser, mayor of Kansas City, MO, earlier today and went through a lot adding a list of his initiatives. I learned all of this code for Misplaced Pages, cited my sources, and then boom! I submit it, it gets deleted because I may or may not have a bias. From what I understand I have to save it as a draft and have someone proofread it for me. Could you get back my deleted contribution so I can save it as a draft? Thanks! Sorry for putting this on your Talk page, I don't think this is where I should be asking you this. Enderadams (talk) 21:12, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
- Your contribution has not been deleted. Rather, someone else (namely, me) has reverted the changes you've made. You can see all of your contributions here and also by going to Mark Funkhouser and clicking on the "history" tab at the top.
- The question to ask is "Why was my change reverted?". I undid your edit because the material you added was not sourced to an independent reliable source and also seemed to be a non-neutral (or promotional) description of the mayor's programs. These issues need to be addressed before the material can be re-added. TNXMan 21:16, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Thank you, I will find better sources and try better to ensure neutrality. I thought it was reverted because I immediately chose to modify an entry considered controversial. Enderadams (talk) 23:19, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks!!
Thanks for your help on Contents boxes... that was exactly what I was looking for! Much appreciated. John2510 (talk) 22:30, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
- No problem, glad I was able to help out. TNXMan 22:34, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
University of Calicut
T. P. Rajeevan, a famous poet who writes in both English and Malayalam is the PRO there.. I don't find an appropriate section to add this information. Is it worth adding? --117.204.90.52 (talk) 18:10, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Also, the sixth ref. to Hvk.org is rather poor source. It is a highly partisan community website belonging to Sangh Parivar.--117.204.90.52 (talk) 18:14, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
- If he is part of the faculty and is notable (i.e., he has a Misplaced Pages article), he can certainly be added, probably under the department section. As for the reference, it's hosted on hvk, but was originally published in the Indian Express. Reading through it, it seems to simply recapping the situation, with a minimum of editorial content. I hope this helps. TNXMan 18:20, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Jeske Couriano
I know you said he was a good admin, and maybe he was, but he's certainly intemperate. His use of vulgar language on public pages, even if they are discussion pages, is inappropriate. See Wikipedia_talk:Pending_changes/Vote_comment#.3F.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:16, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
- Vulgar language doesn't bother me, but I understand that not everyone feels the same way. You could ask him to tone it down, either on his talk page or the discussion page. Civility on Misplaced Pages can be a touchy subject - some people are pretty strict about it, some are more of the "anything goes" mind. TNXMan 19:28, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
- Vulgar language doesn't bother me, either, personally. Many of my friends say I use it far too much, but I only use it in certain settings. Misplaced Pages is supposed to be a public encyclopedia. There's no need to use vulgarity to express a point. In addition, Misplaced Pages states clearly that civility is important (4th pillar), regardless of what some individual editors may feel. And on the Internet, it's even more important to be nice because it's simply too easy to be nasty when you're communicating with virtual beings.
- In any event, I'm not going to ask him to tone it down. As far as I can tell, the whole reviewer trial discussion/poll is engendering a high level of conflict among editors, including him, as much about procedural issues as about the subject itself. If he wants to "yell" at others, I'll let them deal with it. I don't feel like inviting him to yell at me by asking him not to yell. :-) Instead, I'm venting at you, for which I apologize. However, as a relative newbie, these discussions help because I gain more insight into Misplaced Pages's history and practices, which aren't all that easy for an outsider to understand.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:46, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
- Not a problem - this page is "safe-vent" zone. Learning the behind-the-scenes stuff on Misplaced Pages is akin to a sausage-factory tour. You'll never look at it the same way again. If more issues come up, or you're curious about past goings-on, let me know. I've been around for a bit and may be able to answer your questions (or at least point you to someone who would). TNXMan 19:52, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
- In any event, I'm not going to ask him to tone it down. As far as I can tell, the whole reviewer trial discussion/poll is engendering a high level of conflict among editors, including him, as much about procedural issues as about the subject itself. If he wants to "yell" at others, I'll let them deal with it. I don't feel like inviting him to yell at me by asking him not to yell. :-) Instead, I'm venting at you, for which I apologize. However, as a relative newbie, these discussions help because I gain more insight into Misplaced Pages's history and practices, which aren't all that easy for an outsider to understand.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:46, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Multiple hoax user pages
I'm not sure how this should be handled: There are three very similar user pages that resemble articles: User:LukeTaiohCruz User:MatthhewwDaay User:ZacckStafri All three use the same image: http://en.wikipedia.org/File:LukeTaiohCruz.jpg but label it as the subject of their fake articles. One user page (User:ZacckStafri) is a close paraphrase of the existing article for Lea Michele. None of the "facts" in the articles are true, as can be seen when following various wikilinks from within the articles. I'm not real confident about marking user pages as hoaxes, but these user pages do not look very constructive to me either. I suppose I need a ruling of some kind here. Thanks. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 20:18, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oops, it's worse. The images uploaded by User:JaasoneDeruulo http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/JaasoneDeruulo are used in many similar hoax pages in user space. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 20:24, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
- This all sounds vaguely familiar - the copied articles, the very professional looking photos, etc. I'm not sure what to do here. I don't see any alternate account abuse, but perhaps leaving a note alerting them to our "one account per person" policy would be a good idea (or even asking them what's going on). I don't think it's quite speedy-deletable, but if there's no effort to improve it, perhaps WP:MFD would be a good venue to raise the issue in a few days. Let me know if other issues crop up. TNXMan 20:33, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Tnxman, I'm sickened by your abuse of policies in support of Rd232's edit warring and inappropraite block where he is involved
He edit warred against two different editors, instituted his preferred version, warned me, and then blocked me even though I engaged in no further reversions despite consensus being on my side. Please stay away from me and my talk page. I have no respect for anyone who holds a position of authority here who fails to take corrective action when such blatant admin abuse is being carried out. You should really be ashamed of yourself and think carefully about what kind of person, editor, and admin you want to be. Freakshownerd (talk) 21:39, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm sorry you are upset. However, I was responding to an unblock request on your talk page. When I read the request, I saw phrases like "What a pile of dishonest garbage that's being peddled here with these abusive actions.". That is not a proper way to get your block lifted. I have no problem lifting blocks when the request is written calmly and reasonably. If you would like me to stay away from your talk page, that's no problem, but if you do have further concerns, please let me know. TNXMan 02:58, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- It's unfortunate that you didn't like the way I characterized an admin abusively blocking another editor after themselves edit warring some 8 or 9 times against consensus from two different good faith and accomplished editors before also reverting another unrelated edit and blocking over it (a mistake he now acknowledged) despite being involved in the dispute himself. If you can't abide and enforce policies fairly and consistently then give up your tools. Rd232 remains uncastigated while my blocklog has now been sullied twice by the incompetence and abuse of admins, one of whom has been stalking me, harassing me, slinging lies my way, and engaging in POV pushing across a wide swath of articles. If that's not a "dishonest pile of garbage being peddled here" then what is it exactly? It sure smells poopy to me. Freakshownerd (talk) 03:02, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- But would have it been too much to ask for you to write the facts without the polemic? Alain de Botton once said "...it's not just what you say that counts, it's also how you say it - that the success of your argument critically depends on your manner of presenting it." More specifically, the guide to appealing blocks states that "The use of profanities, ramblings, ALL CAPS SCREAMING and the like will lead to the decline of your unblock request". TNXMan 03:16, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- It's unfortunate that you didn't like the way I characterized an admin abusively blocking another editor after themselves edit warring some 8 or 9 times against consensus from two different good faith and accomplished editors before also reverting another unrelated edit and blocking over it (a mistake he now acknowledged) despite being involved in the dispute himself. If you can't abide and enforce policies fairly and consistently then give up your tools. Rd232 remains uncastigated while my blocklog has now been sullied twice by the incompetence and abuse of admins, one of whom has been stalking me, harassing me, slinging lies my way, and engaging in POV pushing across a wide swath of articles. If that's not a "dishonest pile of garbage being peddled here" then what is it exactly? It sure smells poopy to me. Freakshownerd (talk) 03:02, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Copyright Infringement and Advertising
G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement: And advertising This was the notice I received when attempting to edit the page "Lorel Marketing Group". I'd like to provide similar content and was told to contact you if doing so. I understand the 'advertising' issue, yet what in the article was guilty of copyright infringement? I'm curious to know so I can effectively edit this page.
Thank you.
SKT44 (talk) 15:54, 23 August 2010 (UTC)SKT44
- Hmm. I don't know the article to which you are referring. I see this page, but it does not mention a copyright infringement as one of the reasons it was deleted. I would encourage you to read our info on writing your first article and our guide to a neutral point of view. You can also write a draft of the article in your userspace (something like User:SKT44/Sandbox) and work on improving it before moving it to the mainspace. TNXMan 22:52, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Article title / 20dayton
Hi,
You responded to my inquiry a few minutes ago. Thanks for the info, but I am puzzled by your reference to it being blatant advertising. I have seen a posting of another business in our space that has been there for months and I would say is much more self promoting than what I have added —Preceding unsigned comment added by 20dayton (talk • contribs) 19:01, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- If you know of articles that contain promotional language, feel free to clean them up or mention them to someone else. Misplaced Pages does not accept promotional articles. The article you have in your userspace does appear to be an advertisement - phrases like "offers a comprehensive approach to emerging markets supported by a transparent and robust global platform" are not neutrally written, they are promoting a company. I would suggest reading this guide to help you. TNXMan 22:55, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Ned Beatty
Hello, regarding the recent aditions to Ned Beattys bio, they were written according to a source from the British UK Daily News from the 1990s. Anyway, I understood that you gentlemen dont agree to them. Sorry to keep trying to post them. I understand I must respect Wikipedias policy. Sorry for any inconvenience, and keep up making sure wikipedia continues to be one of the finest sites online. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.124.46.240 (talk) 21:57, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for understanding. TNXMan 22:55, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Sir, I hope I am not disturbing. It's just that I thought I could ask you sir this - could you gentlemen reconsider the vandalism label that my account got? I understand that I should have read the guidelines before posting and adding info, I agree that it was my fault, but I did it in ignorance, not in the vandalism intention. It would mean a lot to me, if you gentlemen could dissociate the vandalism label of me and my IP address. Anyway, sir, I just wanted to say Sorry again, for any inconvenience. Thanks for your time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aryluizdalazen (talk • contribs) 22:42, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Amir.Hossein.7055
I am leaving you a note since you were involved in doing the CU on the last (Aug 8) report on this case. It looks like a new sockpuppet of Amir.Hossein.7055 has popped up, User:DemocraticIranWeneed. The user started editing on Aug 14, a few days after the last batch of socks of Amir.Hossein.7055 were blocked. The editing pattern is similar: mostly Iran-related articles, many image uploads, many soccer-related articles (including some of the same articles as the previous socks of Amir.Hossein.7055). I have not checked uploaded files too closely but it is clear that there are problems with copyright tags/claims there too. E.g. for File:Khatami 2010.jpg, uploaded by DemocraticIranWeneed, the tag specifies "own work" but the author is given as a different user, namely User:Mardetanha. I am pretty sure that DemocraticIranWeneed is a sock of Amir.Hossein.7055, but I am not sure how to proceed, particularly since the previous report is not archived yet, although it is marked as "closed and will shortly be archived". Should I file a new report? Or add to the previous one? Thanks, Nsk92 (talk) 13:53, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- I am opening a new case - I'll copy your notes here to the case. I think there's enough for a sleeper check, as previous checks have nabbed at least a couple of accounts each time. Thanks for bringing this up. TNXMan 14:29, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- OK, thanks. I have started looking a bit more closely at the images that DemocraticIranWeneed uploaded and there are lots of copyright problems there as well (see User talk:DemocraticIranWeneed). So I am quite sure now that it is the same guy. Nsk92 (talk) 14:36, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Yet another
Re the in-process of being closed Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Dr.Mukesh111, we have yet another that just showed up Saigalonly (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) What would the process be? Active Banana ( 19:59, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- Blocked and tagged. The key here is this page, which shows a created account caught in J.Delanoy's sweep. TNXMan 20:24, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! Active Banana ( 20:24, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
And we have another Unbreakable father (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Active Banana ( 20:50, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
And again! Still here 4 ever (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Active Banana ( 21:11, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Deletion of page
Why did you delete my page? I had references and it is a legitimate musical group that I saw and really enjoyed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheekybastad (talk • contribs) 01:59, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- The article was deleted because it did not indicate why the group was notable enough to warrant an article. I would suggest reading our guide to writing your first article, as that may assist you in writing a good article. TNXMan 03:16, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Heh
Doesn't intellectual fascism require some form of intellect (or intellectual effort)? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 20:06, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- I didn't even know that was a legitimate phrase, let alone an excuse for poor behavior. I thought about working in a reference to Godwin's Law, but I couldn't make it fit. :( TNXMan 20:30, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Wolfkeeper unblock request
Actually, I kind of thought that "The principle of the wikipedia is that making bold changes to policy is acceptable, and the proposed change I made to the deletion policy is completely inline with the other policies of the Misplaced Pages and the general way that this policy is actually used in AFDs, even before any previous changes. The edit was not a repeat of any previous edits I have made, nor is it in any way disruptive." was discussing his own edits?--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 01:17, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Well, when I review unblock requests, I usually stop after the bit that attacks of other editors (and leading with an attack is probably the worst way to do it). WP:GAB says a blocked user must show "that the block is in fact not necessary to prevent... disruption". They were disruptive in their unblock request, thus the block is still necessary. I hope this makes sense, but please let me know if I wasn't as clear as I'd hoped. TNXMan 01:28, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- (Update) The unblock currently posted is much better. TNXMan 01:36, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, clear enough -- I just wanted to make sure he was being turned down for the right reasons -- which I see has since happened. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 02:18, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Archiving
I tried to set up an auto archive on my talk page, but it isn't working. My original plan was to keep an archive for each year, and do the archiving for any posts more than 120 days (on the long side I know, but I don;t get traffic like you do). However, other than the initial archive, which I think I did manual, it has never updated. I saw your help response to someone recently and urged them to check out your page. So I did, and I think I largely copied your settings, and hoped it would archive last night, but nothing happened. Would you be willing to take a glance and see what I've done wrong? Thanks in advance, and thanks for all the work you do at the help desk. I try to help there, but most of the time I know an answer, you've beat me to it.--SPhilbrickT 12:42, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- It looks like you've done everything correctly. The reason for delay is most likely the fact that the archiving bot runs once a day. If you set up the code after it's daily run, it may be a while until it comes back around to you (I think it runs alphabetically). If you check the bot's contributions, you'll get an idea of what I mean. Also, thank you for helping at the help desk. It's always good to have knowledgeable people around. TNXMan 13:24, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. After I posted, I realized I made the changes last evening, and it may well have been after midnight universal time.--SPhilbrickT 16:56, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Charles Henry Crandall
Sorry about the e/cs; looks like we're both fixing the same things! – ukexpat (talk) 14:01, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- No problem. You beat me to some of the easy stuff! On a side note, is {{lifetime}} still legit or has that been deprecated? TNXMan 14:09, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- I don't know whether it has been "officially" deprecated, but I haven't used it in a long time. You can subst it for quickly adding DEFSORT, YoB and YoD, but I find it quicker to manually add DEFSORT then use HotCat to add YoB, YoD and other relevant categories. – ukexpat (talk) 14:38, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
RD talk
What's the point in having the RD talk page semi'd if users are going to blindly copy trolling comments from other pages back to it? That IP posted the same comment on at least two other pages - a comment which adds absolutely nothing to the discussion, aside from being totally ill-thought-out. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 18:41, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- I did read it and I thought it made some sense. It didn't seem like blatant trolling to me, which is why I copied it. Of course, if there a problems, it can easily be removed. TNXMan 18:58, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Except he's dead wrong about the idea that we have no ethical responsibility. And I didn't see anything in his comments that were new or important enough to warrant violating the semi by proxy. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 19:09, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Ethical responsibility? I don't see that mentioned in the post I copied. Was it part of that post or a different one? TNXMan 19:17, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Except he's dead wrong about the idea that we have no ethical responsibility. And I didn't see anything in his comments that were new or important enough to warrant violating the semi by proxy. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 19:09, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Warning on Colligo Contributor Page
Hi Tnxman307,
Do you know who put the "unverfied references" warning at the top of this page? I think it should now be acceptable? Can you remove the warning?
Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ecmguy (talk • contribs) 20:07, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Done - I took care of it. – ukexpat (talk) 20:11, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Move needed
Could you move David Fredosso to David Freddoso over the redireect? I went with the spelling in one of the sources, but it was wrong. Freakshownerd (talk) 15:36, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Done Odd that the source says one thing, but the book cover at The Case Against Barack Obama says another. TNXMan 15:42, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help. Take care. Freakshownerd (talk) 15:49, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Re your block
Re this, good block. It might be prudent to think also about what to do with "forum" vice "foum" spelling.LeadSongDog come howl! 17:31, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Deletion of HeyMath! page
Hi, I created HeyMath! page in June 2009 and did not make any modifications to it, however it was deleted in April 2010. Would like to know why it was deleted almost 1 year after creation. Was there any specific information which is not acceptable. Rgds, Ridhima Suri —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ridhima.suri (talk • contribs) 06:01, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- The page was deleted in April as a blatant advertisement. Phrases like "uses a collaborative approach that actively seeks and integrates inputs from great teachers around the world to provides technology-based solutions that help schools address system problems in curriculum instruction and assessment" do not belong in a neutrally written encyclopedia. I would encourage you to read our guide to writing your first article, as that may help you. TNXMan 11:47, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Re: Ping
I've no objection to lifting or reducing this rangeblock. What's the best way to proceed? If the IP has a registered account obviously I'd prefer simply IP block exemption for the account, but failing that is it possible to exempt one IP from a range? If not six months for a /17 block seems overly high anyway, and I'd be happy to lift it and reapply smaller rangeblocks if the original problem recurs. TFOWR 09:12, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm. Looking at the block log, this is their second six-month rangeblock. I think the best idea may be to point the IP to WP:ACC and ask them to create an account there. If they would like to edit, that will probably be the best bet. Also, to answer your question, I don't think exempting one IP from a rangeblock is possible. Cheers! TNXMan 11:45, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, exempting one IP from a rangeblock seemed a little too magical, even for me ;-) I've let the IP know about WP:ACC and promised to help them with any problems they have. Thanks for your help! TFOWR 11:52, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
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