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Hi

Hey could you help out with the Pending Changed Vote Commenting, User Off2riorob is not being co-operative and I would request that you deal with it since I don't want to engage in an edit war with him, thanks Ғяіᴅaз'§Đоом | Spare your time? 03:39, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind Fetchcomms has clarified the situation and I have apologised. Ғяіᴅaз'§Đоом | Spare your time? 04:03, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm glad it has been sorted! For future reference, I don't tend to be online between 2200-0700 UTC (and can't guarantee when/if I'll be online between 0700-2200!) -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 07:08, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh ok, good luck with getting OS :) Consider me a tps :) Ғяіᴅaз'§Đøøм | Spare your time? 02:19, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Desire2Learn

Hello,

I have just returned from vacation and see that you have removed the page referencing Desire2Learn. Can you please explain to me your reasonings/rationale? As a user of the software of this vendor I think it is important that they have a listing on Misplaced Pages -- just like other learning management system vendors. I attempted to address the previous concerns and sought out external, public, references (e.g., journals, online publications) to information regarding the statements made about the company. They are not, as was stated, self-referenceable. The citations/refernces were all from sites unassociated with Desire2Learn.

I look forward to your response.

Thank you!

WildWomenWin (talk) 05:36, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi WildWomenWin, thanks for contacting me. The reason that I deleted the article was because the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Desire2Learn was that it should be deleted. The article was listed for two weeks, and the nominator and one other editor said it should be deleted, and no one argued for keeping it.

I have just looked at the deleted article (as an admin, I can see deleted articles), and have found that the references are either from the company's own website (which is not independent), press releases (which are from the company) or from websites which do not meet Misplaced Pages's crtiteria for reliable sources.

Whether there were other learning management system vendors with articles on Misplaced Pages has no bearing on whether Desire2Learn has an article. It may be that some of the other companies' articles should be deleted (if they are not suitably referenced, or if they fail to show that the company meet Misplaced Pages's notability criteria for organisations or Misplaced Pages's general notability criteria) or that they meet the criteria for inclusion - in either case, that has nothing to do with Desire2Learn's article.

I trust that this explains why the article was deleted -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 07:08, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Mark Halstead

Hi, on 11th August the article for this English footballer was deleted, because it should not have been created as at that time Halstead had not played a single professional game. However, this evening he makes his professional debut for Blackpool F.C. in a League Cup match, so rather than creating the article again, could you please, as the admin who deleted the article, restore it so that I can then update it? For information about his appearance see here - BFC site Thank you for yous assistance.--♦Tangerines♦·Talk 18:44, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

As he has played (Sky Sports reported at 3 mins after kick off: "Direct free kick taken right-footed by Mark Halstead (Blackpool) from own half, resulting in open play.") I will restore the article now -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 19:20, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

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Baptist State Convention of North Carolina

Consensus has emerged on the notability of state conventions of the SBC. Would you please restore the conventions you deleted? Thank you so very much. Please see talk concerning Alabama Baptist State Board of Missions.

Thank you! Toverton28 (talk) 03:25, 25 August 2010 (UTC)toverton28

• AfDs last for 7 days - until the Alabama Baptist State Board of Missions AfD is closed as a keep, I will not restore the one I deleted. Contact me when the AfD has been closed, and we'll see from there! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 06:14, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

More Baptists

• Colorado Baptist General Convention (AfD discussion)

I've just Kerrrzapp!ed this, and Arizona has changed since you last looked at it. (So has Alabama. Aymatth2 has suggested a DYK nomination.) Uncle G (talk) 02:54, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

• Excellent work, Uncle G! I have amended my !vote. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 18:14, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

R. D. Reynolds

I need this article userfied, or whatever the term is. It can go here: User:GaryColemanFan/RD. GaryColemanFan (talk) 22:00, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

• I have userfied it to User:GaryColemanFan/R. D. Reynolds. Please note that I will be keeping an eye on this article, and if I do not see any work done to make it acceptable according to Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, I will re-delete it: user space is not a place to have articles which would otherwise be deleted. I have also re-protected R.D. Reynolds from re-creation: if you feel that the article is ready to be put into main space, let me know and I will look at it, and if I agree, I will move it to article space. Regards, -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 09:24, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Oversight comment period?

Hi Phantomsteve! I saw somewhere that you're being considered for oversight authority. I was glad to learn of it, but I was wondering whether there was or is any opportunity for users to comment on your candidacy? If you could point me to such a page, I'd be grateful. Btw, however that process turns out, I just want to reiterate the gratitude I've expressed in the past for your tremendous support for the encyclopedia... Also, I think I remember reading previously, too, here on your talk page, that you have a new child in the family? My very best congratulations to you and your wife! Best regards,  – OhioStandard (talk) 05:45, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm afraid that you are too late to comment! The request for such comments was made on 16 August, and the 'closing date' was the 25th August. The announcement was made today that everyone who put themselves forward were accepted, and so my appointment as an Oversight volunteer begins on 1st September. Thanks for your congratulations on the birth of my son - I'm still over the moon 8 weeks later! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 09:28, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

D'oh! as the iconic Homer Simpson is wont to say. Sorry I missed the opportunity to comment, but glad to hear the result! And congratulations again on your son; with you for a dad he'll be a good 'un, without a doubt! :-) Best,  – OhioStandard (talk) 09:39, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Admin coaching

Hey there! I noticed that you were interested in admin coaching. As you are a former coachee of Juliancolton (who I was with until he decided to take 'sabbatical' from coaching), I would be really interested in learning from you. Do you still have a spot open? Panyd 16:54, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

I'd be honoured! I'm a bit busy at the moment, but on Monday or Tuesday, I'll set up a Coaching page, update the status on the Admin Coaching pages, and we'll get started! Enjoy the rest of the weekend -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 18:32, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

By the way, I know you had a Coaching page with Julian, but I will start a new one - some of the questions I ask may be the same or similar, but it's useful for you to answer them without referring to what you wrote at User:Panyd/ADCO - I'll be able to see if anything's changed, without you being influenced by what you wrote before. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 18:36, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I really appreciate it. And no problem, I won't cheat I promise. Panyd 20:02, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

File:Bishopburberige.jpg

How can F9 not apply and G12 does? Eeekster (talk) 22:27, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

• My bad - I meant to click on the "F9 criteria" to delete, and clicked on "G12" by mistake (both say about copyright!). However, the end result is the same! Thanks for drawing my attention to it - it's one of those silly things, where I saw "copyright" on the drop-down list, and clicked it... call it being human! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 22:33, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Was just wondering since you left me a note about the change. Thanks Eeekster (talk) 23:03, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

I use a script called the CSD Helper, which notifies the tagger if I delete using a different criteria than the one they tagged the article with! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 23:06, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Fair use?

How was my page not fair use of the author's work? —Preceding unsigned comment added by JDTilley (talk • contribs) 23:10, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

• Misplaced Pages:Fair_use#Text says Brief quotations of copyrighted text may be used to illustrate a point, establish context, or attribute a point of view or idea. Copyrighted text that is used verbatim must be attributed with quotation marks or other standard notation, such as block quotes. Any alterations must be clearly marked, i.e. for added text, an ellipsis (...) for removed text, and emphasis noted after the quotation as "(emphasis added)" or "(emphasis in the original)". Extensive quotation of copyrighted text is prohibited. - the "Copyrighted text that is used verbatim..." bit refers to brief quotations. If you feel that the decision to delete was incorrect, you may bring it up at Deletion Review -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 23:19, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Darkside (Transformers)

I'd like to write a good entry for the Darkside on the List of Transformers Spaceships page so you can redirect that page to it. Can I do so? Mathewignash (talk) 22:53, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Let me know when the List of Transformers spacecraft is more than just a list of spaceship names, with each ship having an entry rather than just a link to another article, and I'll userfy Darkside (Transformers). In my opinion, it makes no sense having a single link for each of the other spaceships, and then more detail on Darkside - each of the ships should have some content on that page, with {{Main|xxx}} linking to main articles for each ship, where such an article exists. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 22:58, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I'd like the text of the Darkside page to work from, so I can pull the good bits from it and put them on the list page. Mathewignash (talk) 23:02, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

So your intention is that the list will be a list, apart from this one ship which will have detail? Either all the ships should have the "good bits" on the page, or the list should only include ships which have articles. Come back to me when you have expanded the list page - as I said in my closing statement: If someone wants to expand one of those, I'll happily userfy the article to enable the content to be merged to one of those! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 23:06, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I was just editing the Transformers Spaceship list page to start off giving all the ships a single sentence description. I had hoped that any merged/redirected ship could then have a larger description, where the ones that maintain their own article could just keep the single sentence and the link. Is that okay, or do you have a better idea? I'm open for ideas, as I still a bit new at this. Mathewignash (talk) 23:13, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Alternatively, instead of a "list" page an article about spaceships in Transformers is possible. I'm not sure which would be more acceptable. Let me know. Mathewignash (talk) 23:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Is that a start? Mathewignash (talk) 01:08, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I think what you've done there is good - although I feel that the amount of detail present is sufficient for Dark Side. Also, you might want to remove the "Main article" link for it, as there is no article! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 16:05, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Staeta (Soy Milk)

Hi You recently deleted an article I had created called Staeta (Soy Milk). The article was initally poorly written and was nominated. But now, it had been cleaned up. I would request you to relook at the decision to delete and if possible, restore the article with edits that are causing the issue.

If you still feel that it was the correct desision to delete, I would like you to userify it for my account so I can try and work on it once again. You had mentioned this is possible on the Deletion discussion page. Thanks.

Lastly, would look forward to any input from you about how it can be improved. Also do send me a talkback when you answer. thanks - Sudeep88 (talk) 05:35, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

This user initially came to me after I tagged a good-faith misplaced WP:DR submission. I referred them to you as you appeared to be the person who closed an Afd discussion regarding the above article, according to the deletion log. From an outsider's perspective, turning the article into a userspace draft for an eventual deletion review seems appropriate, though an immediate review might not be an appropriate option since there has been no time to improve the article as of yet. elektrikSHOOS 06:57, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I will look at this later and get back to you -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\ 09:56, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I have restored the article and moved it to User:Sudeep88/Staeta (Soy Milk). I would suggest that you work on it, bearing in mind that articles on Misplaced Pages are not for promotion. Please read Notability (organizations and companies) and our Organisations' FAQ. I will be keeping an eye on the article, and if I feel that it warrants deletion, I will do so - if I do, you will be able to take that deletion to Deletion Review. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 16:13, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Appreciate the advice. Thanks. I will work on it over the next couple of days and request feedback on it once I'm doing fixing it to ensure it is not in voalition of Misplaced Pages's guidelines. Will also leave a note here so you can give me your feedback as well. - Sudeep88 (talk) 17:36, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Nemesis (Transformers)

Hi. Given that none of the Keep !votes gave a decent rationale, one of them (the IP) is almost certainly a sock of another, and the third said "or Merge", would you like to look at this close again? (I know it can just be nominated again, but...) Thanks, Black Kite (t) (c) 08:13, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I'll look at that again later today, when I get a chance to. If I haven't responded here by tomorrow, leave a message to remind me! -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\ 09:51, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

If I can put set things straight, I am not guilty of using a sock puppet, however, I have done wrong by Misplaced Pages in another way. I was not familiar with deletion protocall for canvasing and I asked by brother in law, who works at the same company, to chime in on the deletions. I didn't know he would just go in on the company computer anonymously and vote to keep on a bunch of articles I voted on. The result was him voting with the same IP as some edits I have made from the same company (different computer, same IP). If there should be further disciplinary action against me, please contact me directly. I would like to thank the Deletion Rescue team for explaining the canvasing rules to me so I won't violate them any further. Sorry for any trouble I caused Mathewignash (talk) 13:50, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm not on my computer at the mo, so I'll look into this later. -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\ 14:36, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't think there's any need for a sanction against Mathew now that he knows what he did wrong; however the !votes in those AfDs, of course, should be discounted (I'll strike any that are still open). Black Kite (t) (c) 14:46, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

• I agree about the lack of need for sanctions. However, I have reversed the close, and closed as 'delete'. Mathewihnash, you are welcome to expand the 'Nemesis' entry on the list, and remove the link to the main article, as there now is no main article! Regards, -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 16:18, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Since there are lots of links to the now deleted Nemesis (Transformers) and Darkside (Transformers), can we put redirects on those pages to the list I started? Mathewignash (talk) 19:09, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Wow, there were a lot of links! I have now created the Nemesis/Darkside as redirects to the list, to make the links blue -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 19:13, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the Nemesis had over 250 links to it's page. Possibly a vote in favor of it's notability, but I guess that debate is closed. Mathewignash (talk) 21:07, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

It's actually a lot less than that, because every page that has the Transformers template at the bottom was shown as linked to it, even if they didn't link in the actual article. Black Kite (t) (c) 21:33, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks

Thanks for letting me know; but please be advised that this is not necessary in the future. I have a self-improvement habit of checking if the pages I tagged were deleted and for what reasons so that I can learn from mistakes in the future. Thanks again, Tyrol5 20:47, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

• I use CSD Helper, which automatically notifies taggers of a change in deletion criteria (well, in those cases where it can work out the tagger, sometimes it can't for some reason!) -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 20:49, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

result of AfD

hello, Talk:Antoine_Dodson says the result of the discussion was to keep, but it currently links to the 1st discussion which was to delete. i thought you could fix this. thanks. -Shootbamboo (talk) 23:50, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

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