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Apologies for deleting the redlinked redirect earlier; I ought to have guessed that something was about to happen at the target... Bencherlite 16:00, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

No worries! I completely understand. Jehochman 17:31, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Asshole

The way you have responded to me on the PD talkpage makes it look as though I called a user an asshole. Can you please correct this accusation. Polargeo (talk) 16:05, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

I will refactor it for clarity. I find the way you've presented this here very ironic, and plan to leave the heading just as it is. Jehochman 17:26, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Of course this is all ridiculous. "Grappling with assholes just covers you in their shit" is a figure of speech. I wasn't calling anyone an asshole specifically. Besides, if I was going to use that term I would've said arsehole. -- Scjessey (talk) 17:33, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

If I were in your situation, I probably would have said something much worse.  :-) When you are dealing with a disruptive editor, they will look for any crack to exploit. Cover yourself by not using language that can be misconstrued. Jehochman 17:48, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Of course the great irony here is that it all came out of me trying to get Polargeo to moderate his remarks - User_talk:Polargeo#Barber. I might just go and open my veins now. -- Scjessey (talk) 18:11, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Have you heard the expression No good deed goes unpunished? Jehochman 18:14, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Oddly relevant. -- Scjessey (talk) 19:19, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

• Rather than grappling with anybody, why don't you gather up some evidence and file a request for enforcement if the objectionable behaviors by other editors continues. I wanted to propose some additional sanctions, but could not, because the needed materials were not presented in evidence. Jehochman 18:28, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

  I'm not interested in getting people sanctioned. I edit Misplaced Pages because I think the project is awesome and fun to work on. Diff-diving is distasteful to me, and I usually restrict that sort of thing to identifying socking, etc. -- Scjessey (talk) 19:19, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

  Some folks involved in this conflict appear to do a lot of diff diving. At a formal process like arbitration, this gives them a tactical advantage. Much as you dislike collecting evidence, it is a necessary step if you find an editor who is damaging the encyclopedia and refuses to be swayed by informal discussion. Jehochman 20:23, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

  But is that not what Administrators are for? To go all Agent Smith ("Find them and destroy them!") on these troublesome users, leaving us grunts to keep making Misplaced Pages awesome? -- Scjessey (talk) 20:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Climate change case

Just a note to say I've collapsed the Scjessy discussion thread, please don't add anything more to it (although I don't mind if you strike anything). Thanks. On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Dougweller (talk) 17:09, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank goodness! That was turning ugly. Jehochman 17:32, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Our recent conflict in perspective on EEML

I have made a concerted effort to put EEML in the past. Please do not paint yourself as a victim as that only re-litigates the case and forces me to respond in kind. Whenever two parties view themselves as the victim and the other as the aggressor, nothing good comes of that. We should consider a calming spot of tea together. Best, PЄTЄRS J VЄСRUМВА ►TALK 19:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

I agree that we should let past controversies die, and instead focus on creating excellent quality content. Jehochman 20:20, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

About your edit to WP:GIANTDICK

Go piss up a rope er just kidding. Your tweak better describes this annoying behavior then my initial wording. See this section in an essay I wrote. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 21:34, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

I am so tempted to blank your post! Have you seen wp:delicious yet? Jehochman 21:36, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

I would have to agree with with the !voter in the second MFD who said it's not funny but an obvious attempt at humor. BTW, I think this image would be perfect for WP:GIANTDICK. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 21:49, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Do I have a "sister" called Sapho?

Very. Well. Played! ;~) LessHeard vanU (talk) 23:00, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

User:Badagnani

Hello. I am one of the individuals that was involved in a past discussion in which a dispute arose between Badagnani and another user. Though I have not been on the receiving end of Badagnani's allegedly continued belligerence, and though I am in no way affiliated with him, I have always thought that his presence in our project was an overall net positive. His some-odd 136,000 contributions and 1,300 new articles were often made within esoteric areas of interest (e.g., traditional Asian instruments and cuisine) that seldom see edits by anyone, let alone dedicated contributors.

Earlier today, I stumbled upon his userpage while reviewing my list of contributions and saw that he had been blocked indefinitely. Looking over the AN/I discussion, I realize that this was done as an act of mercy--so as to prevent a year long ArbCom block--but it has now been eight months and frankly it seems rather unlikely that he is going to appeal within a reasonable time frame. Considering the rationale behind his most recent block, the relative severity of offenses which preceded it, and his overall value to our project, would you perhaps be willing to consider lifting it at this point in time?   — C M B J   06:55, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

They can request unblocking with a statement of what productive things they will do, and perhaps what un productive behavior they will avoid. Jehochman 07:21, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Your wrong venue tag

Your wrong venue tag is out of line and unhelpful. We were asked to report edit warring on CC articles and this is being logged in the PD, particularly with regard to any articles that are protected as the result of the edit war such as this one. Please remove the tag and let arb clerks and arbs decide what is the wrong venue. Since you placed the tag FellGleaming has taken the opportunity you have provided to make a nasty comment about even admins not knowing where to post things. I would remove it myself but I don't wish to cause a commotion. Polargeo (talk) 11:35, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

You have my consent to remove the tag. The thread looked like a lot of useless bickering. Jehochman 12:32, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Disappointed and disillusioned

Out of all the candidates at the most recent ArbCom election, you were the only one I voted for. Because of your work on the 9/11 conspiracy theories articles, you were one of the few admins whom I had gained to trust. I am very disappointed and disillusioned that I was wrong. Your comments and actions as an admin in the climate change namespace are extremely suspect and reveal a disregard of WP:NPOV and WP:RS. I am very sorry for having supported you. 02:39, 10 September 2010 (UTC)