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Clearer design for MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext

Three weeks ago Rd232 implemented a new design for MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext, to make it easier to submit edit requests. Although Rd232's proposal is a success, using a table makes it cluttered. I'd like to suggest a clearer design, here is a draft: User:Dodoïste/Sandbox. I tried to make it look clearer by removing every unnecessary detail, so the eye would not be disturbed.

What are your thoughs about it? Should we adopt this design? Yours, Dodoïste (talk) 23:59, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

The current design is, despite looking good, indeed a bit heavy on the eyes. Your change looks good, but please change the {{Ambox}} to an {{Mbox}}, because it's not solely used on articles, but mostly on template pages. There might be more which has to be updated from the message. --The Evil IP address (talk) 14:01, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, my draft is only meant to show the result, and is not entirely functional. It took my a while to understand the long and complex parser functions.

Anyway, the final version is ready in User:Dodoïste/Sandbox2. You just need to copy-paste its content in MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext. You can check the difference between the two versions: I didn't change the text nor the parser functions, only the layout. Yours, Dodoïste (talk) 20:01, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

 Done by MSGJ. Dodoïste (talk) 11:58, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Revertpage and Revertpage-nouser

It might be considerable to apply some changes to MediaWiki:Revertpage (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) and/or MediaWiki:Revertpage-nouser (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Currently, the messages say "Reverted edits by $2 (talk) to last version by $1" for Revertpage and "Reverted edits by (username removed) to last revision by $1". Revertpage's default content is "Reverted edits by $2 (talk) to last revision by $1" (differences being the link on "Reverted", version instead of revision and no link for the user of the last good version), whereas Revertpage-nouser uses the default. To make it consistent, one would have to edit it saying "Reverted edits by (username removed) to last version by $1". However, when being at it, it might also be good to see if it's actually good like this and if more possible changes could be made.

Looking at the differences, the link is certainly helpful for explanatation what this actually is, and the supressed user page link of the last "good" user should also remain, as this link is rather useless and in several cases a red one, which gives a reader nothing. However, I'm wondering about the wording change: Is there some reason why "revision" doesn't fit here? If so, is it for a reason that only applies here or is it a reason that applies to other wikis, too? In this case, the default message should be updated to reflect this. Another thing that I'm unsure about is the "Reverted edits by (username removed)" within "Revertpage-nouser": Not only that it's pretty sloppy, it also gives a wrong impression about what's possible with oversight. There's no way to only suppress the username in a summary, only the whole summary can be removed. I would thus simply shorten it to "Reverted to last revision/version by $1", because you can just as easily see what the user did. Another option would be "Reverted edits by an account with inappropriate name to last revision by $1", but this wording is extremely long.

What do you think of this? Please let me know, --The Evil IP address (talk) 13:53, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Labels

MediaWiki talk:Cite references link many format backlink labels. Kubek15 16:01, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

I reverted your removal of the redirect, as that talk page is probably not watched by many editors and redirects to a centralized talk page that is more monitored. You already asked this question at Help talk:Cite errors#not enough backlink labels and someplace else. List of allied military operations of the Vietnam War uses 1043 instances of the same named reference; for many registered editors, that page will never load unless they log out, and it still takes a long time and that many backlinks are ugly and useless. You either need to split the article or use an alternative reference system such as {{scref}} / {{scnote}}. The {{scref}} / {{scnote}} has some issues, but it will get you past this problem. I am working on some alternatives, but it will be a while before anything might be implemented. There are more issues with the article, such as {{reflist}} being stuffed in a scroll box in violation of MOS:SCROLL. The other 581 reference probably slow it down as well. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  16:37, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

MediaWiki_talk:Viewsource#Change_View_Source_to_Edit_This_Page

MediaWiki_talk:Viewsource#Change_View_Source_to_Edit_This_Page. Self-explanatory in aim; follow the link for detailed explanation of why. Rd232 11:03, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Related article suggestions

When you edit an article in Uncyclopedia you get a message that says "Thanks for your edit. You might want to check out these vaguely/somewhat related/random articles: ___, ___, ___." I don't know if these are always the same (it's a joke) or are really pages related to the one you edited. I think this feature should be added to wikipedia because if you edited a page you are likely to have something to add to related pages.

I don't know if this belongs here or not, if it doesn't, please move it and tell me. --George (talk) 01:16, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Clearyourcache, be more intuitive!

In MediaWiki:Clearyourcache, There is no information regarding Google Chrome. According to usage share of web browsers, Google Chrome has now around 7-8% of the market share, which is more than Opera or Safari. Plus, the link "bypass your browser's cache" is misleading: it would mean that once one click on this link the browser's cache is be cleared. And it does not indicate that we can find details and informations about other browsers. I suggest the following text instead:

Note: After saving, you have to bypass your browser's cache to see the changes. Internet Explorer: hold down the Ctrl key and click the Refresh or Reload button. Firefox: hold down the Shift key while clicking Reload (or press Ctrl-Shift-R). Konqueror and Safari users can just click the Reload button. For details and instructions about other browsers, see Misplaced Pages:Bypass your cache.

Instructions for Chrome and Opera are long and complicated, it's necessary to read Misplaced Pages:Bypass your cache anyway. In order to keep the message short I suggest to remove instructions for Opera. Yours, Dodoïste (talk) 16:57, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

 Done by MSGJ at MediaWiki talk:Clearyourcache. Dodoïste (talk) 13:42, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Suggestion on email help

In the MediaWiki message regarding a requested password, I was thinking that "If someone else made this request, or if you have remembered your password and you no longer wish to change it, you may safely ignore this message. Your old/existing password will continue to work despite this new password being created for you" this phrase be bolded for clarity? I had a little email request I did not make earlier today and I think if that were bolded it'd help clarify the message perplexed users. Thanks, —Tommy2010 21:03, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Rev-deleted-comment

See MediaWiki talk:Rev-deleted-comment for a discussion on whether to change "(comment removed)" to "(edit summary removed)". PleaseStand 06:50, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

 Done by Happy-melon. PleaseStand 18:54, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Interwiki stars are not shown

See MediaWiki_talk:Vector.css#Interwiki_stars_are_not_shown. --Kildor (talk) 21:41, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

"In to"

Arguably, the following eight messages incorrectly use "in to" rather than "into":

• MediaWiki:Centralauth-complete-text
• MediaWiki:Centralauth-login-progress
• MediaWiki:Centralauth-merge-welcome
• MediaWiki:Loginsuccess
• MediaWiki:Passwordremindertext
• MediaWiki:Securepoll-not-logged-in
• MediaWiki:Signupend
• MediaWiki:Captchahelp-text

PleaseStand 19:14, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

• I think the use of "in to" is correct. "log in" is a phrasal verb, and "to" is a preposition after it. Ruslik_Zero 19:30, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Tag: references removed

Please see MediaWiki talk:Tag-references removed-description. 167.107.191.217 (talk) 13:30, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Viewprevnext

As reported on the pump, on contributions pages (and history pages) there are two visible spaces between “newer 50” and “|”. This is because MediaWiki:Pipe-separator contains   that's not there on default and MediaWiki:Viewprevnext puts another space before it. I think the spaces from MediaWiki:Viewprevnext should be removed:

View ($1{{int:pipe-separator}}$2) ($3)

Svick (talk) 09:44, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

 Done Ruslik_Zero 15:21, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Svick (talk) 16:28, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

As the person who first happened to notice that, let me express my thanks too. --Theurgist (talk) 22:25, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Newpages-summary

Added edit request to ] Gerardw (talk) 16:38, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Rdcheck link to WhatLinksHere

I think it would be useful if we added the rdcheck tool to MediaWiki:Linkshere. An example of what it does at tools:~dispenser/cgi-bin/rdcheck.py/BioShock. — Dispenser 17:14, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

 Done Ruslik_Zero 15:49, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Could you change the code to ] since as it works with & in the title? — Dispenser 17:05, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

 Done Ruslik_Zero 18:48, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Obsolete "Take me back" on top

Following this message on Wikitech-l, I think it would be a good thing to remove (quite obsolete now) "Take me back" link on the top. I suspect the only reason it's still there is because of other Wikimedia projects that switched recently or are about to switch, and the developers can only remove it once all projects are switched. Note that "New features" link would still be there and switching back would simply require 3 mouse clicks instead of 2. — AlexSm 20:22, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Ordering of Greek polytonic characters in edit tools

I've proposed a different ordering of the Greek polytonic characters in the edit tools at MediaWiki talk:Edittools#Ordering of Greek polytonic characters.  --Lambiam 07:39, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Separating transcludes on edit window for clarity

I was thinking to make the edit window clearer to new users, we could visually separate the transcludes and hidden templates at the bottom of it by adding a heading just before them e.g. something like

Technical page information

pages transluded onto current version of page ...

I've had a search around but as far as I can see adding to the end of MediaWiki:Edittools should do the job, but there may be a better location? Like the top of MediaWiki:Templatesused... Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 23:05, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Common.css, styles for wikitables

Please comment MediaWiki talk:Common.css#some wikitable ideas. Kind regards, Dodoïste (talk) 19:43, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

MediaWiki_talk:Globalblocking-blocked

I'm proposing, here, that we link to the secure.wikimedia site in order to allow users with ISP or national proxies to be able to edit normally, while still blocking the abusive aspects of those proxies. Kylu (talk) 05:14, 30 October 2010 (UTC)