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	In order to remain listed at ], at least two people need to show that they tried to resolve a dispute with this user and have failed. This must involve the ''same'' dispute with a ''single'' user, not different disputes or multiple users. The persons complaining must provide evidence of their efforts, and each of them must certify it by signing this page with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. If this does not happen within 48 hours of the creation of this dispute page (which was: 21:03, 3 November 2010 (UTC)), the page will be deleted. The current date and time is: <tt>{{CURRENTTIME}}, {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}} (UTC)</tt>.		In order to remain listed at ], at least two people need to show that they tried to resolve a dispute with this user and have failed. This must involve the ''same'' dispute with a ''single'' user, not different disputes or multiple users. The persons complaining must provide evidence of their efforts, and each of them must certify it by signing this page with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. If this does not happen within 48 hours of the creation of this dispute page (which was: 21:03, 3 November 2010 (UTC)), the page will be deleted. The current date and time is: <tt>{{CURRENTTIME}}, {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}} (UTC)</tt>.
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	==Statement of the dispute==		==Statement of the dispute==
			Generally; is Communicat editing disruptively and/or unable to get along with the wider community, and separately, are elements of the community unreasonably excluding alternate non-western viewpoints or sources from World War II related history articles.
	''This is a summary written by users who are concerned by this user's conduct. Users signing other sections ("Response" or "Outside views") should not edit the "Statement of the dispute" section.''

	=== Desired outcome ===		=== Desired outcome ===
			It is desired that the community review the two major issues (behavior, and content) and that a community consensus be developed for ways to proceed forwards along those two
	''This is a summary written by users who have initiated the request for comment. It should spell out exactly what the changes they'd like to see in the user, or what questions of behavior should be the focus.''
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		⚫	=== Description ===
	The "what's the point of this again?" bit. Half of the world is going to think it's precursor to arbcom, the other half are probably not going to look to closely since the _point_ isn't clear, and the other half are going to be going for the jugular no matter what.
			Communicat is active in Misplaced Pages generally in two major and one minor area related to modern history - World War II, and the History of South Africa, with a lesser focus on Cold War studies. Broadly speaking, Communicat has introduced a more eastern-oriented point of view and sources.

			The current dispute is focused on behavioral and content issues related to ].
	So here if someone cough would write out a nice clear concise explanation of what they hoped would happen by raising this, all would be right with the world.

			There are two general competing and not necessarily exclusive claims made.
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			* That Communicat continues to insert unsourced or poorly sourced materials, promote fringe points of view, and disrupt the article; advanced by {{user\|Nick-D}} and {{user\|Edward321}}
			* That there exists a cabal of editors working to keep the standard western history viewpoint exclusively in the articles to the exclusion of other viewpoints; advanced by {{user\|Communicat}} - or alternately, that personal conflicts with Communicat are causing this alternate viewpoint to be needlessly excluded or not fairly considered; advanced by {{user\|Petri Krohn}}

			My apologies if the above do not adequately summarize or are somewhat biased; the editors can of course expound further below.

			There has been considerable prior dispute history:
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			And Communicat has been warned or sanctioned for various activity (disclaimer: both the warning and blocks by myself):
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Statement of the dispute

Generally; is Communicat editing disruptively and/or unable to get along with the wider community, and separately, are elements of the community unreasonably excluding alternate non-western viewpoints or sources from World War II related history articles.

Desired outcome

It is desired that the community review the two major issues (behavior, and content) and that a community consensus be developed for ways to proceed forwards along those two

Description

Communicat is active in Misplaced Pages generally in two major and one minor area related to modern history - World War II, and the History of South Africa, with a lesser focus on Cold War studies. Broadly speaking, Communicat has introduced a more eastern-oriented point of view and sources.

The current dispute is focused on behavioral and content issues related to Aftermath of World War II.

There are two general competing and not necessarily exclusive claims made.

That Communicat continues to insert unsourced or poorly sourced materials, promote fringe points of view, and disrupt the article; advanced by Nick-D (talk · contribs) and Edward321 (talk · contribs)
That there exists a cabal of editors working to keep the standard western history viewpoint exclusively in the articles to the exclusion of other viewpoints; advanced by Communicat (talk · contribs) - or alternately, that personal conflicts with Communicat are causing this alternate viewpoint to be needlessly excluded or not fairly considered; advanced by Petri Krohn (talk · contribs)

My apologies if the above do not adequately summarize or are somewhat biased; the editors can of course expound further below.

There has been considerable prior dispute history:

And Communicat has been warned or sanctioned for various activity (disclaimer: both the warning and blocks by myself):

Evidence of disputed behavior

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