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| I'm deeply unimpressed with you "damned if you do, damned if you don't" oppose to the candidates Q6 and have commented at the RFA - I have also added a question there that might, I hope, provoke you into considering your oppose rationale (not your oppose - just the reason). I frankly don't give a toss about the RFA but honestly - opposing when you've set the bait like that strikes me as ... well you get the idea. <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">] : ] </span></small> 22:50, 5 December 2010 (UTC) | I'm deeply unimpressed with you "damned if you do, damned if you don't" oppose to the candidates Q6 and have commented at the RFA - I have also added a question there that might, I hope, provoke you into considering your oppose rationale (not your oppose - just the reason). I frankly don't give a toss about the RFA but honestly - opposing when you've set the bait like that strikes me as ... well you get the idea. <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">] : ] </span></small> 22:50, 5 December 2010 (UTC) | ||
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| Hi. As a courtesy, I'm asking you to reconsider your closing of the above-referenced AfD. There was no consensus to delete - the !votes were about even, and were running in favor of keeping if you discount the poorly reasoned or off-topic ones. I find the effort to stamp out lists of Jewish X to be problematic, particularly the undercurrent and frequent voting among those who have qualms over Jewish identity and wish to rid Misplaced Pages of all navigational tools that address Jewish identity in a systematic way, an opinion you rightly discounted. Your main point, that the notability of Jewish American entertainers was "not conclusively shown", disregards the sources and arguments offered in the discussion. It's absurd on the face of it, particularly using your formulation of the subject as "the importance of Jewish American entertainers to the entertainment industry". Are there sources that Jewish entertainers as a group have been important to the American entertainment industry? Yes, books, works of scholarship, symposiums, museum exhibits, projects, library collections, college curricula. Could anyone seriously question that? | |||
| I'll ask for your advice on this, or any other help you'd care to offer. My first instinct is to take this directly to deletion review, as an incorrect determination of consensus. However, if the real issue is establishing that the subject is notable, I could just go ahead and create a non-list article on the subject, then begin adding names either there or in a new list article once the notability is sourced. - ] (]) 08:26, 6 December 2010 (UTC) | |||
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RfA questions
Hi Fetchcomms. Sorry to bug you on your talk page, but I had a question about your !vote on my RfA and thought it more appropriate to seek clarification here. When you talk about project space edits, are you talking about the Misplaced Pages: and Misplaced Pages Talk: namespaces in general, or specific areas within those such as AfD or AIV? Again, sorry to bug you, I'm just hoping to get a better understanding. Thanks, 28bytes (talk) 04:32, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, the WP: and WT: namespaces. AIV and AfD are included in those, but they are far from the only thing one should focus on in my opinion. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 16:39, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. In that case I'm a little surprised you consider a combined 350+ edits to those spaces "almost nothing", but I recognize that everyone has different minimum requirements for support. 28bytes (talk) 21:16, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- 350 is relatively low for an admin; a lot of admin work often pertains to projectspace. I'm not asking for 5,000 AfD votes or anything, but maybe a few hundred more? It's probably low because you've only been active a few months. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:08, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- OK, that makes sense. Thanks for the additional clarification. 28bytes (talk) 01:16, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- 350 is relatively low for an admin; a lot of admin work often pertains to projectspace. I'm not asking for 5,000 AfD votes or anything, but maybe a few hundred more? It's probably low because you've only been active a few months. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:08, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. In that case I'm a little surprised you consider a combined 350+ edits to those spaces "almost nothing", but I recognize that everyone has different minimum requirements for support. 28bytes (talk) 21:16, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Deletion review for Capri Anderson
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Capri Anderson. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. == --Hixteilchen (talk) 11:30, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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If it okay to make a redirect to a special page, for example, User:Perseus, Son of Zeus/c redirecting to Special:Contributions/Perseus, Son of Zeus? Thanks.
Perseus (t•c) 14:23, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- You can't redirect to special pages. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 16:30, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- I've been wondering about that myself. Why can't one redirect to a special page? Inka 00:12, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- It's not technically possible; MediaWiki limitation. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:09, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- I've been wondering about that myself. Why can't one redirect to a special page? Inka 00:12, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- You can soft-redirect it. "Note that redirects to other Wikimedia projects, other websites, or special pages do not work. These should be avoided or replaced with a {{soft redirect}} template. Soft redirects are also used in category space (using the {{category redirect}} template)." (Misplaced Pages:Redirect). Codedon (talk) 00:17, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
List of largest empires
Hi there. We're having a content dispute at the article above - the list of empires has a large 216 entries, and currently the article sees fit to repeat this list 6 times! Clearly a waste of storage and bandwidth. A better solution (saving at least 30% and making it much easier to read and use) would be a table with a column for each attribute, sortable, as used in many other articles (see the discussion). However, a silent editor keeps reverting attempts to clean up the article, without explanation. Please see the discussion (currently nobody disagrees). Your comments would be welcome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.18.207 (talk) 21:20, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Why did you choose to notify me? I've never been involved in this and you should not canvass users. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:11, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Oliver Dyer
 | On 3 December 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Oliver Dyer, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Oliver Dyer established the first American periodical devoted to shorthand? If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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| For your amazing, gracious help with the WP:USPP assessment -- you've helped make our project a success! Ldavis (Public Policy) (talk) 23:35, 3 December 2010 (UTC) |
Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Jerem43 2
I'm deeply unimpressed with you "damned if you do, damned if you don't" oppose to the candidates Q6 and have commented at the RFA - I have also added a question there that might, I hope, provoke you into considering your oppose rationale (not your oppose - just the reason). I frankly don't give a toss about the RFA but honestly - opposing when you've set the bait like that strikes me as ... well you get the idea. Pedro : Chat 22:50, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of Jewish American entertainers
Hi. As a courtesy, I'm asking you to reconsider your closing of the above-referenced AfD. There was no consensus to delete - the !votes were about even, and were running in favor of keeping if you discount the poorly reasoned or off-topic ones. I find the effort to stamp out lists of Jewish X to be problematic, particularly the undercurrent and frequent voting among those who have qualms over Jewish identity and wish to rid Misplaced Pages of all navigational tools that address Jewish identity in a systematic way, an opinion you rightly discounted. Your main point, that the notability of Jewish American entertainers was "not conclusively shown", disregards the sources and arguments offered in the discussion. It's absurd on the face of it, particularly using your formulation of the subject as "the importance of Jewish American entertainers to the entertainment industry". Are there sources that Jewish entertainers as a group have been important to the American entertainment industry? Yes, books, works of scholarship, symposiums, museum exhibits, projects, library collections, college curricula. Could anyone seriously question that?
I'll ask for your advice on this, or any other help you'd care to offer. My first instinct is to take this directly to deletion review, as an incorrect determination of consensus. However, if the real issue is establishing that the subject is notable, I could just go ahead and create a non-list article on the subject, then begin adding names either there or in a new list article once the notability is sourced. - Wikidemon (talk) 08:26, 6 December 2010 (UTC)