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Are the above notable? --Wiki San Roze 12:23, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- nope. this is a district specific caste org. not notable.--Sodabottle (talk) 07:52, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Kokborok Counting
The article Kokborok Counting has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- A search for reference failed to find published (gBooks) support for the content of this article, fails WP:N and WP:V
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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Jeepday (talk) 16:46, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- actually, it's merely a partial copy of Kokborok language, and I therefore put an A10 speedy tag on it. I got the clue by actually reading to the bottom, where it ends in the middle of sentence. FWIW, this automated notice is not appropriate for posting on noticeboards. I'm not sure we have one, so it's better to write something oneself, or even simpler, edit the notice after its placed. DGG ( talk ) 21:10, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Wikiproject India userbox issue....
Minor issue, but is there a way the wiki project userbox for this project can be reduced?
It's much larger than the standard userbox size and way too big.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by TrevelyanL85A2 (talk • contribs) 01:12, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
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Muddupalani
I recently started an article on Muddupalani, an eighteenth century Telugu poet, seeking to preserve material up for deletion. Any help in expanding it, adding the name in Telugu script, and searching about whether she has an article on a sister project would be appreciated. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 18:28, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Tridib Mitra poet. Can you help?
The article on Bengali poet Tridib Mitra has been tagged as an unreferenced biography of a living person since July 2008, which is the current focus month of the BLP Rescue Project. I have tried, and failed, to find any reliable sources to support this text. There are more details on the article discussion page. I'm posting here in the hope that someone might be kind enough to take a look and help determine the subject's notability and provide at least one reliable source. If it stays unreferenced much longer, it may be nominated for deletion.--Plad2 (talk) 21:39, 8 December 2010 (UTC)-
- This article has now been nominated for deletion.--Plad2 (talk) 23:50, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
Sanskrit alphabet composition (Kristubhagavatam): How form conjuncts "kri" and "stu"?
Hello, I've created a new page at Kristubhagavatam for a notable (and multiple award-winning) Sanskrit poem. I'd like to express the name of the poem itself in Devanagiri script. However, even after viewing the Devanagari page, I'm not sure how to create the necessary conjuncts where several letters are written together. I've succeeded in making kr, but not kri. Similarly, I've made st, but not stu. So the Sanskrit version of the name looks miserable, as I've just stuck in "i" and "u" as placeholders: "Template:Lang-sa". Can the two needed conjuncts even be formed within WP? Any suggestions? Or if anyone knows how to simply implement such conjuncts, the text in question is on line 1 of the lede. Many thanks -- Health Researcher (talk) 06:03, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- Heh, I'd just fixed the page before noticing your message here. For future reference, see Help:Multilingual support (Indic)#Other input methods (or the rest of the page), or the external links at Devanagari transliteration, or any online transliteration tool such as this one. Regards, Shreevatsa (talk) 06:55, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- Great! And I copied our interchange to the article's talk page, for future reference (since one might want to add more Sanskrit text, e.g., verses or canto titles). Many thanks -- Health Researcher (talk) 07:17, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Special characters in article names
I am quite curious about the special characters in article names pertaining to Tamil literature. I understand that spelling this way helps with pronunciation. However, in my opinion the article names should use a common spelling found on the net. A pronunciation help or an audio file might be a useful addition.
The articles include most listed in this template: {{Sangam literature}}. --Wiki San Roze 16:39, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- Er, common spelling found on the net? We'd have to move a lot of articles to misspelt titles if that were a criterion. :-) (The spelling "Paul Erdös" is about five times more common than "Paul Erdős", yet the latter is the correct spelling and the article title.) I of course agree that if we find that there is a single simple spelling that is overwhelmingly common in sources that discuss the subject, that's what we should use. But it seems that at least some of these ancient names are discussed (in English) mostly in scholarly literature, which tends to use some accurate transliteration with a few diacritic marks here and there. So if it's the name with diacritics that's more common in the sources, that's what we should use, rather than one loose approximation out of several. (What's the problem with special characters, BTW? I don't see anyone arguing that it's better to remove them from European names with diacritics, like the aforementioned Paul Erdős, or John le Carré, or Möbius strip, or Þrúðr, or…) Whatever the name, we'll always have all variant spellings redirect to the actual article, so I don't see a strong argument for having the article title not be an accurate transliteration. In fact, the large text of the title is where the diacritic marks are easiest to see, and hence most useful. :-) (Nothing that I said applies to names that are commonly discussed in English outside the scholarly literature, and always with the same spelling.) Shreevatsa (talk) 17:08, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- I see what you mean. However, to be honest, I have never seen these words spelt with diacritics, be it in text books or when they make it in the news. I did a search through Google books with Akanaṉūṟu and once again I don't find any hits for it but rather for Akananooru, Agananooru, Akananuru and Agananuru. Of course it would have been wise to search on Google scholar but I am not able to do it as the scholar thinks am a virus. I will have to try that later. Nevertheless, I am almost certain that the results would be similar. FYI, Tamil Nadu Stateboard (Government run) uses Aganuru. --Wiki San Roze 18:49, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, this profuse multiplicity of spellings, characteristic of Tamil, only convinces me of the utility of using a standard spelling (short of titling the article in Tamil characters). :-) Shreevatsa (talk) 19:20, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- Well if Akananuru has 3200 hits on Google books and the highest, that should obviously be the article's name. The other spellings that I have pointed are way smaller in number (with Agananuru being the second with 480). These should be redirects and may be spelt out as alternate names in the article. --Wiki San Roze 19:27, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, this profuse multiplicity of spellings, characteristic of Tamil, only convinces me of the utility of using a standard spelling (short of titling the article in Tamil characters). :-) Shreevatsa (talk) 19:20, 13 December 2010 (UTC)