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Antidemocratic Behavior

It is clear that Richter's supporters are not democratic people. They do not understand Misplaced Pages philosophy and have closed minds. Now they erase also our discussions! This only demonstrate that Richter's "success" exists only within their minds and that they want, by pressure and force, to convince others. I have copied the last version before the erasing.

Good! Now erase this page and do your last antidemocratic act.

A self-evaluating system

Actions such as

• (a) anonymously deleting rather than accepting the posted comments, and
• (b) refusing the opportunity for an open dialog offered in this talk page

will naturally reflect on the public evaluation of Richter's ideas and achievements and on the methods used to record them in the history of science.

Neutrality violated

I concur that this page is ridculously unclear and biased. Someone qualified should address the inadequacies... February 5th, 2006

This article is full of opinionated and critical phrasing. I am not familiar enough with the subject to edit it myself. --DV8 2XL 16:15, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

I fully agree that the article took a non-neutral and biased point of view. I'm upset of that. More than that, is losing a logical chronology and became confusing. I would suggest that the article should be rewritten from scratch trying to tell just facts related to the Huemul project only and giving an extensive list of links and references.

Atucha II

I think that the sentence relative to the Atucha II Nuclear plant should be erased. It has nothing to be with the article. It affects the credibility of the whole text. I also don't understand why the text about the work of the comissions was removed. It showed that some mechanism of scientific reviewing were used by Peron's Government.

Commission

Please, include that material again. Jclerman 01:44, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Non Objective article

I think this article is not Objective and MUST be deleted ASAP.

Richter's work

The kind of non-neutral POV I found in this article is unacceptable. Say what you will, but you simply cannot rant in favour of Richter and against everybody else without proof, and certainly not in that tone regardless of evidence. Two independent commisions declared his work wrong. That should be enough. Oh, and for the record, Misplaced Pages is not a democracy. You need to present credible evidence from reputable sources, maintain an encyclopedic tone, and gather consensus from other editors. I've commented out the questionable text just for the sake of discussion, although it clearly should be deleted completely if it stays in its current form. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 18:41, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

OK, 200.45.6.15 (talk · contribs). If you don't want to discuss, fine, but you won't get biased and irrelevant content into the article. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 19:22, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Pablo, just a clarification note: I used the word Democracy in the sense of your sentence "gather consensus from other editors". Guigue 21:05 UTC, 6 Feb 2006.

Fixes

I didn't want to unblock the article to copy edit it, so I created Huemul Project/Work. Plase, revise it, so we can move it to the article ASAP. Mariano(t/c) 14:35, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Recent additions

I work in the Instituto Balseiro and therefore I am personally interested in the contents of this article. I have recently added some information, and hopefully made it more accurate. Further comments are welcome.

Luzu 22:21, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Please read this before editing the article

Recent vandalism in this article has been unstoppable, please discuss changes here before editing the article. All further edits will be considered vandalism and removed without any advise. Thanks. --OneEuropeanHeart 22:17, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

I have protected the page in response to a request and after viewing the recent activity. The editors of the page need to find a long term solution to the problem as semi-protection is only a temporary fix. Discuss and seek some compromise or other solution such as rfc. Vsmith 00:10, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

There was no "vandalism" involved at all. This seems to be an edit war between two POVs. The semi-protection policy explicitly states:

*Is not to be used to dispel edit warring or revert wars. See the protection policy for how to deal with this.

I will remove the semiprotection. Please deal with this in other ways. Zocky | picture popups 06:37, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

One of the POVs is clearly based on attacking an institution, and the responsible is one editor under several IP addresses who ignores warning messages. I think the page should be fully protected, but I'd like Zocky and all other outside parties (i. e. people not involved in the recent wave of edits and reverts) to understand the problem. See also the history of Comisión Nacional de Energía Atómica and other related articles. I won't protect the page by myself right now since I feel I'm involved in this, so I request Zocky or any other watching admin to consider that measure. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 18:46, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Personal attacks indeed

I have removed the latest additions of 200.82.18.43 (talk · contribs) to this page. I will remind everyone that accusing others of violating Misplaced Pages policies without proof is in itself a personal attack. Insulting someone while hiding behind an anonymous IP is a grave offence, so nobody should accuse another user of doing it without proof. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 22:03, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Personal attacks

• 200.123.178.246 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log), Making Personal Attacks , probably Nkcs or Pablo-flores or OneEuropeanHeart wrote: "ESTE GIL SE LA COME Y LE GUSTA BIEN DURITA POR ATRAS", a very offensive statement in spanish to 200.45.6.10, (please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:200.45.6.10&oldid=40503654)200.45.6.10 02:45, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

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Location: Argentina

Personal attacks 2

I seems that the person who recently wrote personal attacks related with the Huemul Project page is Nkcs. See contributions of 200.68.127.154 (talk · contribs). Probably Nkcs or one of its partners logged with this IP after 200.82.18.5 (talk · contribs) to try to hide his misbehavior. 200.45.6.126 13:47, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

I suggest you, Pablo-flores, that you solve this first.

200.82.18.43 21:38, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Don't be stupid, please. Find who wrote "ESTE GIL SE LA COME Y LE GUSTA BIEN DURITA POR ATRAS". Evidence is clear. You have three choices. And please keep away of vandalizing this page. Contribute with something meaningful. (Certainly you didn't so far) 200.45.6.172 02:13, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

200.68.127.154 wrote (21:56 - 22:04, 22 February 2006):

WHY YOU PROTECTED THAT PAGE?????

   FUCK YOU YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT YOU WROTE THAT STUPID COMMENT YOU KNOW NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!

       YOU CAN'T PROTECT THAT PAGE FOREVER THE U.S. AND ARGENTINA SUCKS

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Vsmith&oldid=40766456

VSMITH AND ONEEUROPEANHEART AND PABLOFLORES ARE ALL FUKCING IDIOTS!!!!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Huemul_Project&oldid=40766701 VSMITH AND ONEEUROPEANHEART AND PABLOFLORES ARE ALL FUKCING IDIOTS!!!!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Comisi%C3%B3n_Nacional_de_Energ%C3%ADa_At%C3%B3mica&oldid=40766655 VSMITH AND ONEEUROPEANHEART AND PABLOFLORES ARE ALL FUKCING IDIOTS!!!!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Instituto_Balseiro&oldid=40766799

etc.

200.45.6.172 02:42, 25 February 2006 (UTC)