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Instructions

Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination. Every approved hook will appear on the main page.

DYK criteria

How to list a new nomination

Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

1. Nom without image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= }}
2. Nom with image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= | image= | caption= }}

   To include more than one new or expanded article in a single hook: |article2= |article3= |article4= | (etc)

   To include more than one author: |author2= |author3= | (etc)

   To include alternate hooks: |ALT1= |ALT2= | (etc)

   To add a comment: |comment=

   To add the article you reviewed: |reviewed=

Do not wikilink the article title, or the author username field; the template will wikilink them automatically. Do wikilink the article title in the hook field, however.
Do not add a section heading if you are using the template; the template will add one for you.
Do not include a signature (~~~~) after the template.
Do not use non-free images in your hook suggestion.

An example of how to use the template is given below. Don't forget to fill out the rollover text, so people know what the image is of! Full details are at {{NewDYKnom}}:

{{subst:NewDYKnom
 | article    = Example
 | status     = new<!--(or)  expanded (or) BLP expanded-->
 | hook       = ... that this ] is an  ''']''' ''(pictured)''?
 | author     = User
 | nominator  =
 | image      = Example.png
 | rollover   = An example image
 | alttext    = Description of the image
 | comment    =
 | reviewed   = Article you reviewed
}}

• Note that you should only use one of the above templates for the original hook. If you want to suggest a second, alternative hook for the same article submission, just type it in manually. The above templates output useful code for each submission and if you employ them for alternative hooks, you will mess up the page formatting.
• When saving your suggestion, please add the name of the suggested article to your edit summary.
• Please check back for comments on your nomination. Responding to reasonable objections will help ensure that your article is listed.
• If you nominate someone else's article, you can use {{subst:DYKNom}} to notify them. Usage: {{subst:DYKNom|Article name}}

How to review a nomination

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the additional rules.

If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or note that there is an issue with the article or hook, please use the following symbols to point the issues out:

Symbol	Code	DYK Ready?	Description
	{{subst:DYKtick}}	Yes	No problems, ready for DYK
	{{subst:DYKtickAGF}}	Yes	Article is ready for DYK, with a foreign-language or offline hook reference accepted in good faith
	{{subst:DYK?}}	Query	DYK eligibility requires that an issue be addressed. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
	{{subst:DYK?no}}	Maybe	DYK eligibility requires additional work. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
	{{subst:DYKno}}	No	Article is either completely ineligible, or else requires considerable work before becoming eligible

Please consider using {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page, in case they do not notice that there is an issue.

Backlogged?

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first (so that those hooks don't grow stale), it may take several days until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions above).

Where is my hook?

If you can't find the hook you submitted to this page, in most cases it means your article has been approved and is in the queue for display on the main page. You can check whether your hook has been moved to the queue by reviewing the queue listings.

If your hook is not in the queue or already on the main page, it has probably been deleted. Deletion occurs if the hook is more than about eight days old and has unresolved issues for which any discussion has gone stale. If you think your hook has been unfairly deleted, you can query its deletion on the discussion page, but as a general rule deleted hooks will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Nominations

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on January 17

Quantum dot solar cell

• ... that quantum dot solar cells (example shown) aim to greatly improve solar cell performance by carefully tuning their sensitivity even into the infrared?

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 17:35, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusing History on this one, it looks like an old article but is actually spawned from another topic that I'll be re-creating. Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:35, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Weston-super

• - Article checks out, sizing checks out, sourcing is of a high quality, and on an important educational topic of encyclopedic value. ;) -- Cirt (talk) 22:00, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Hold on. No OTRS for the image yet. Sourcing is actually not brilliant because this is an active research area, where picking up primary sources is risky - reviews and books would be better. The hook and some parts of the article elaborating it make no sense to me. "any energy above and beyond the bandgap energy is lost" is only half correct. Bulk solar cells materials sensitive to infrared are no news, and quantum dots don't help here. You possible want to say that QDs allow to tune the bandgap in a wide range for one and the same material, but this is not elaborated anywhere. The article gives no any spectral numbers or explains why, say PbS QDs are better than bulk PbS. In summary - great yet unfinished effort, with much work still needed. Materialscientist (talk) 05:57, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

(undent) You note above that "the hook... make no sense", but none of the points on the talk page or here elaborate on that point. Can you be specific about what you think it not kosher in the hook so we can fix it? Maury Markowitz (talk) 12:11, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Can't "greatly" improve efficiency which is already some 42% (there is a limit); "carefully" is weasel, for "tuning into the infrared" see below. This is all quickfixable; the problem is the article needs rewriting before it can be DYK featured. Materialscientist (talk) 12:17, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

The hook doesn't talk about any of the things you mention -- "bandgap", "bulk material", etc. Is there something you feel needs to be changed for the DKY? Maury Markowitz (talk) 11:58, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

See talk page of the article. All mechanisms of the article are about taking low-gap material and make it efficiently absorb high energies, thus tuning into the visible, not vice versa (can't tune QD bandgap toward lower energies). Materialscientist (talk) 12:04, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

OK hows this...

• ... that quantum dot solar cells (example shown) aim to produce efficient solar cells by carefully tuning their sensitivity even in the infrared?

Very same problems as with the original hook (haven't checked the last article updates yet). Materialscientist (talk) 13:25, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

I based the new hook on the statement above, where you expressed concern about "tuning into the infrared" and "greatly improve". I removed all of these statements. I see I forgot "careful" and I would be happy to drop that if you consider it bad. But is there anything else? This game of 20 questions is growing lengthy. Maury Markowitz (talk) 20:49, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't mean to quibble (limited connectivity - traveling) or spam this thread (thus posting comments at the article talk). The article is yet inadequate in describing physics of solar cells and current research, and referencing is short of DYK standards. The hook can be rewritten after the article is fixed. Materialscientist (talk) 00:05, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

The article still has problems, but might be acceptable for DYK, without the misleading image (dots there are just contacts). A possible hook could be ALT1 ... that the use of quantum dots instead of bulk materials allows more efficient light absorption in solar cells? It is present in the lede, but is not clearly referenced - which I leave to the nominator if he agrees with the hook. Original hooks are not correct. Materialscientist (talk) 05:33, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Pacific Center for Human Growth

• ... that the Pacific Center for Human Growth (pictured) in Berkeley, California is a LGBT community center that was started in 1973 as a response to a "brutal gaybashing in Oakland"? Thisbites (talk) 02:20, 18 January 2011 (UTC)Can we include this picture too?Thisbites (talk) 08:22, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Created by Thisbites (talk). Self nom at 02:19, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length checks out. Creation date was actually January 18, not January 17, so that's fine too, but the nomination should be moved. Article looks good but there is no reference for the bit about Will Roscoe and the United Way or the paragraph about Oakland-East Bay Gay Men's Chorus. Also the hook fact is referenced just to the organization's own website (and it would be nice to say more about the Oakland incident, like when it happened if you don't want to include the victim's name). It would be desirable to have a better reference for this fact, especially since it's the hook. Also, note 2's content seems to be exaggerated in the text. I see one anti-gay slur and one swastika mentioned there, not multiple anti-gay graffiti plus the specific word plus multiple swastikas. Perhaps there is another source you were also using? If not, the paragraph needs to match what the source says.Yngvadottir (talk) 18:44, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

What hook would you suggest instead?Thisbites (talk) 15:38, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

The hook seems fine, it's the referencing needs beefing up. Can you find anything in the Bay Area newspapers substantiating the link between the Center's foundation and the crime in Oakland, and that would enable you to give a smidgen more info about the crime? Similarly can you find press sources for the 2 other pieces of info? Yngvadottir (talk) 16:12, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

I note the paragraph on the vandalism has now been changed to fit the source. I went ahead and added additional sources myself. (Which is not to say there aren't more hiding in newspaper indexes.) So now it needs a 2nd reviewer because I'm too involved. But I would judge it ready. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:46, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for all the help, no I have not been able to find anything else. I suspect there is more hiding in the Oakland Tribune but their search sucks and I don't have lexus nexus =(Thisbites (talk) 00:34, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Are we done here yet?Thisbites (talk) 20:51, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

I do have access to LexusNexus, if you email me I have 18 newspaper matches that I can send back to you as a PDF (no guarantees they will sort out the DYK issues but they will probably be of use to the article quality). Fæ (talk) 21:06, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

sounds great! please doThisbites (talk) 10:11, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

I tried sending you a link by email yesterday, here's a temporary GDoc link - Newspaper sources Fæ (talk) 10:22, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

I just looked at the new citation added to the sentence linking the crime and the founding but it doesnt mention this center at all.Thelmadatter (talk) 14:48, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

ok so how bout we rely on the organization's claim on good faithThisbites (talk) 22:40, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

I dont think so. The citation is false, which throws credibility off. To be notable enough for a hook, we need something more reliable than what the center itself considers a brutal gaybashing incident.Thelmadatter (talk) 03:04, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

which citation is false?Thisbites (talk) 19:42, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 22

Death and funeral of Leonid Brezhnev

• ... that because Leonid Brezhnev (pictured) had more than 200 decorations, it was decided to break the Soviet custom of featuring only one decoration on cushions during his funeral?

Created by Twilight Chill (talk). Self nom at 22:42, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length, ref and date check out, but the section is a copyright violation, as it copies several sentences verbatim from the sourse. Arsenikk 00:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reworded now (reviewed Barack Obama speech at Tucson memorial). Twilightchill t 00:37, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• I still see issues with the article. I did a quick spot check, comparing the "Death and declaration" section of the article with the Time magazine article identified as a source for it. The similarity of the words in "after a faltering appearance or an unexpected absence from a meeting demanded by protocol" (in the source) to "due his faltering appearance and his absence in crucial meetings demanded by protocol" (in the article), together with similarity in overall structure, gives me concern that the Misplaced Pages article is not sufficiently original. Moreover, a person's physical appearance is not typically described as "faltering"; I believe the statement in the Time article was intended to indicated that he had faltered during public appearances. Also, I find it odd that the Misplaced Pages article uses all this to indicate that his death was widely expected, when the Time article indicates that his death had come as a surprise, since he had been maintaining a rigorous schedule and had spent 2 hours outdoors in the cold at a public appearance three days previously. Although I did not find sentences copied directly from the source, the coincidence of unusual wording like "faltering appearance" and "demanded by protocol" is troubling, particularly when it looks like the meaning of the source has been lost at the same time the words were kept. --Orlady (talk) 00:35, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Working: I'm working on it. --TIAYN (talk) 12:57, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

• Egads! How did this article get listed as a Good Article? It's been edited, but the specific concerns I mentioned above still have not been addressed... --Orlady (talk) 14:07, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• I've fixed that sentence, I'm looking for others as we speak. --TIAYN (talk) 19:38, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 23

Pacific East Mall

• ... that Pacific East Mall is an Asian Mall in Richmond, California's Annex?

Created by Thisbites (talk). Self nom at 04:21, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length and date verified, but the hook is terrible. I suggest making one about the Cerrito Creek controversy. - PM800 (talk) 09:24, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• How bout,... that Pacific East Mall is an Asian Mall in Richmond, California's Annex that has had friction with the environmental group Friends of the Five Creeks over the stewardship of Cerrito Creek?

• ALT2: ... that Pacific East Mall, an Asian mall in Richmond, California, has had friction with the environmental group Friends of the Five Creeks over the stewardship of Cerrito Creek? - PM800 (talk) 04:04, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

• OK, I've modified the hook slightly in ALT2. One part of the article needs a citation, so take care of that and it should be fine. - PM800 (talk) 04:09, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Which part is that?Thisbites (talk) 15:37, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

• The part before the "citation needed" tag. - PM800 (talk) 23:55, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

I though that not everything needs to be cited, many DYK articles have an uncited sentence or two, especially considering that this is not a claim made in the headline. It should be accepted on good faith, I mean c'mon Asian restaurants at an Asian mall?Thisbites (talk) 00:41, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

• So you don't have a source for the rest of that paragraph? There is a neutrality dispute in the article now, so I guess that will have to be resolved. - PM800 (talk) 07:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Indeed I don't have a source stating that there are Asian restaurants and products at an Asian Mall, I thought that would be obvious and could be accepted on good faith.

Note: Friends of the Five Creeks was separately nominated for DYK, so this looks like an opportunity for a double hook. However, Friends of the Five Creeks is currently at AfD. --Orlady (talk) 02:16, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't really understand what is being disputed the citations simply explain what the press coverage has reported, The disputor seems like they are related to the mall in some way actually.Thisbites (talk) 20:49, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm not related to the mall. The controversy section is from the FFC perspective and uses an environmental article as a "news" source. It's not NPOV.m.cellophane (talk) 22:24, 1 February 2011 (UTC)m.cellophane

Way to assume good faith, Thisbites. - PM800 (talk) 22:32, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• The neutrality dispute seems to be over. I've cleaned up the article somewhat, as the "Location" section with the bus and commuter services information did not need to be included. Someone else will have to review this nomination now. - PM800 (talk) 14:22, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

So how bout now?Thisbites (talk) 22:33, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

John Mohammed Butt

• ... that in 1984 John Butt became the first, and only, Westerner to graduate from the noted Darul Uloom Deoband Islamic Madrasah since its foundation in 1866?

Created by Jpb1301 (talk). Self nom at 02:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Just past the size criterion (1668 B). "the first, and only, Westerner to graduate from the prestigious Darul Uloom Deoband" has a reference. "prestigious ... Islamic Madrasah in its 145 year history" is not stated. "in 1984" has no reference. Many paras including facts like dates - which require references, do not have them. --Redtigerxyz 12:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• The foundation date of Darul Uloom Deoband is given in the wikipedia article dealing with that subject. However I concede that there is no citation for that date in that source article. I have therefore amended the nominated article to include a citation for the foundation of Darul Uloom Deoband (even though Darul Uloom Deoband is NOT the subject of the nominated article). The other items referred by the reviewer as needing references are all covered by the three independent references already cited in this article - as would be clear to anyone who read them. I have not noticed in-line citations for every non-contentious statement made in other articles - however I have added them to this article to suit this particular reviewers preference. I have also changed the tag to read "since it was founded in 1866" instead of "in its 145 year history". Josephus (talk) 23:46, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Date and length verified. The 2011 BBC News article (FN#1) supports that he was the first and only Westerner to have yet graduated from Darul Uloom Deoband as well as the Madrash's 1866 foundation. (Since it is possible for another Westerner to eventually graduate from there, I've updated the line in the lead with an "as of" note). The only missing link is the 1984 graduation year. It is not included in the BBC news reference and the footnote in the first paragraph of the Conversion to Islam and life in Pakistan section which follows the 1984 claim (FN#4) goes to a general page of the school but doesn't seem to support anything from that section. (The "Brief Introduction" link doesn't even mention John Mohammed Butt) I would be willing to pass the article if we drop the 1984 graduation year and if (FN#4) can be more accurately directed to the material it is suppose to reference. Just drop me a note on my talk page when this is done. Agne/ 07:07, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• Thank you for pointing out that the BBC ref supports the 1866 foundation date.. I had overlooked that. The troublesome FN#4 was only added to address the previous reviewer's concern that this date was unsupported - and I have now removed it completely, as I agree it adds nothing to the article.. I have also removed a duplicated version of FN#1. As for the graduation date of 1984 - that is supported by FN#2 and I have now made that clearer. Thanks again for your input. Josephus (talk) 23:35, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• Thank you for addressing those concerns. Everything looks good to go now. Agne/ 03:19, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 24

SS. Cyril, Methodius, and Raphael's Church (New York City)

• ... that the distinguished former U.S. Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan from New York was a parishioner and cast his first vote in the former St. Raphael's Church, then an Irish Roman Catholic parish in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan, New York City, which merged with the Croatian Roman Catholic parish of SS. Cyril & Methodius in 1974 to create the New York's Croatian Catholic parish of SS. Cyril, Methodius, and Raphael's Church (New York City)

5x expanded by User:James Russiello (talk). Self nom at 16:22, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Relevant article is not bolded; hook is 438 characters long, possibly a record! See the rules. Johnbod (talk) 17:15, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Not a record by a long shot. Our Lady of Victory's Church (New York City) above has a 542 character hook! Schwede66 17:49, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that the distinguished former U.S. Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan was a parishioner and cast his first vote in the former St. Raphael's Church in New York City? Johnbod (talk) 17:15, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Date and expansion length verified. References somewhat verified for Johnbod's hook to the NYC Organ History Website except for the ambiguity about what kind of vote it was. I would assume it was a vote in a public election but then there is nothing to clarify that it wasn't a parish board vote or something similar. While the NYC Organ History seems like a reliable source for church details, I don't know how reliable it is as a public voting record. If this could be clarified (both with the reference and in the hook itself), I would also recommend dropping the unneeded "distinguished" which, though appropriate for a former US Senator, can come across as POV to folks of different political persuasion. Agne/ 11:03, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

The distinguished comes from the fact that Senator Moynihan (1927 – 2003) was a member of both Democratic and Republican presidential administrations, including President Johnson's Assistant Secretary of Labor, presiding in part over the War on Poverty initiative, and was involved in the Nixon Administration, as well as being a Us. Senator, he was the US Ambassador to the UN and involved in New York City politics and had an academic career. The city's Pennsylvania Station remodeling, which is located near this church and in his home neighborhood, is scheduled to be renamed after him.---James R (talk)

While I personally have no problem with the "distinguished" descriptor, I'm well aware of the hyper sensitivities that people have with the main page when it comes POV and politics. We've had people start WP:ERRORS and Village Pump threads over a lot less. But if an admin wants to take the hook, as is, that is up to them. But we still have the issue of the the "first vote" being vague with only the NYC Organ History webpage being used and not providing clarification of whether this was a public election vote (which would be notable) or a parish/church vote, which is rather mundane. Agne/ 03:25, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Breeding Ground (band)

• ... that Breeding Ground were a popular 80s post-punk band, based in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, and that they were asked to open for famous groups such as Bauhaus, The Stranglers, and Echo and the Bunnymen due to their national radio airplay?

Created by AirCombat (talk). Self nom at 23:11, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• The hook is much too long, at 236 characters (checked using Microsoft Word, with spaces). Are you able to bring this down under 200 characters? Arctic Night 22:17, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Suggested more concise hook by third party (191 characters):

• ALT1 ... that Breeding Ground, a 1980s Toronto-based post-punk band, were asked to open for famous groups such as Bauhaus, The Stranglers and Echo & the Bunnymen due to their national radio airplay? --Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:08, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good to me! Thanks Fuhghettaboutit! AC (talk) 02:38, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:17, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Here's another: (199 characters)

ALT2 ... that Breeding Ground, a post-punk Toronto band founded in 1981, opened for popular bands such as Bauhaus, Echo & the Bunnymen and The Stranglers because of their hit single "Happy Now I Know" featuring Molly Johnson on vocals? AC (talk) 03:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed Lind Tower on January 28th, 10:40PM EDT. AC (talk) 03:48, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

• I've struck out the original hook for clarity, and amended the ALT hooks to avoid redirects. I've also linked to Bauhaus (band) rather than the German design school. A reviewer (or the nominator) may want to check whether this problem arises in the article, too. Schwede66 17:49, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Links on the page are alright, thank you for fixing the links AC (talk) 02:00, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

• I also just reviewed Ralph Crosthwaite for kicks. He had a good hook and an interesting article. AC (talk) 02:04, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Length and date of creation check out, but the article does not contain inline citations for any of the facts mentioned in the lead (opening for Bauhaus, The Stranglers, Echo & the Bunnymen, or Happy Now I Know being a hit, or Molly Johnson's contributions). --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 09:46, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 25

Friends of the Five Creeks

• ... that the Friends of the Five Creeks helps restore creeks in the San Francisco Bay Area's East Bay including daylighting Marin Creek?

Created by Thisbites (talk). Self nom at 15:57, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

• Article at AFD. Materialscientist (talk) 00:13, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

A completely unmerited AfD however, where do we go from hereThisbites (talk) 01:01, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

We just need to hold this here until the AfD closes. In the meantime, though, I've discovered that this article is linked in the hook for Pacific East Mall (somewhere above). This looks like an opportunity for a dual hook -- after the AfD closes. --Orlady (talk) 02:18, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

What is a double hook?Thisbites (talk) 20:50, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

A double hook is a hook with two DYK articles and thus two emboldened links. For scary-looking n-tiple hooks with n DYK articles and pretty much the whole line in boldface, please see WP:DYK/HoF. Hope this helps. --PFHLai (talk) 08:29, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

ok let's do itThisbites (talk) 22:35, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 26

William Stanley Jenkins

• ... that flying ace William Stanley Jenkins scored his first two confirmed aerial victories while still posted to hospital?

• Reviewed: DeKalb-Peachtree Airport Learjet 24 crash

Created/expanded by Georgejdorner (talk). Nominated by Self (Georgejdorner) (talk) at 23:07, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook ref verified. However, the refs are bare URLs (see Rule D3. Please format per WP:Citation templates before approval. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 10:31, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

I lack the skills to fix this problem. Consider this nomination withdrawn. Georgejdorner (talk) 15:08, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• No! The article is too good to pass up. I formatted the references for you. However, one reference, "aerodrome", is a malicious link. Do you have another link that verifies the information? Also, please add some categories to the article so it's complete for DYK. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 19:01, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

U Dhammaloka

• … that U Dhammaloka (pictured) was an Irish hobo who became one of the first known western Buddhist monks and was twice tried for sedition?

Created by Laurence Cox (talk). Self nom at 09:18, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

• One of the fundamental DYK requirements is that an article has at least one inline citation per paragraph. The article has hardcoded notes that refer to a long list of references. In my opinion, that's not good enough, but it should be easy enough for the nominator to convert that to shortened footnotes. I'll notify the nominator (who is a new editor, and who has put a lot of effort into writing that article - very well done!) and will let him know a few other DYK tricks of the trade. Also, I've fixed some hook issues (bold target article; pictured in italics; avoid redirects). I haven't as yet checked the hook fact. The article is new and certainly long/comprehensive enough. Schwede66 22:12, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Nominator response: Hi Schwede66: many thanks for the hook fixes and kind comments on the article! It's good to know I'm not missing the mark entirely. Thanks too for taking the time to put in examples of the footnote model on the Dhammaloka page etc.

I did think about using footnotes for the article but discovered from reading around that multiple referencing approaches are acceptable on Misplaced Pages. According to Misplaced Pages:Parenthetical referencing the (author, date) style is "one of the citation styles recommended for Misplaced Pages, although it is less common than footnotes (or endnotes)". I will think again about using a footnoting style.

Part of the difficulty with this article is that almost every fact about its subject had to be collated from a complex range of often fragmentary data, so that to give chapter and verse for each individual fact as it appears in the article would be to drown the text in a welter of footnotes - or else to go into minute detail beyond general levels of interest. Hence the choice of citations at the end rather than as points are made.

The page Misplaced Pages:Inline_citation specifies: "An inline citation is any system that allows the reader to associate a given bit of material in an article with the specific reliable source(s) that support it. Inline citations are often at the end of a sentence or paragraph."

If DYK wants footnotes rather than (author, date) referencing in the original article, then obviously I'm happy to withdraw the nomination here. Or if there's a simpler way of associating the (author, date) reference to the final biblio piece, even better.

Either way, many thanks for your time! Laurence —Preceding undated comment added 00:33, 28 January 2011 (UTC).

It's good to see that you've considered this so carefully. My suggestion is that you simply convert the parenthetical references to shortened footnotes, so that should be a very simple job. And thanks for bringing to my attention that this system is indeed one of the acceptable referencing styles. So please see this as a suggestion, rather than a DYK requirement. I (or somebody else) will get onto checking the hook fact. Schwede66 02:52, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

I thought it might be useful to indicate where the hook fact can be verified via the sources cited in the article. The fact is that U Dhammaloka was an Irish hobo who became one of the first known western Buddhist monks and was twice tried for sedition. Turner, Cox and Bocking (one of 4 sources cited for "Irish hobo" in the "Early life" section) can be found in pre-print form at http://eprints.nuim.ie/2298/ or via university libraries etc. This is also one of the sources cited for "one of the first known western Buddhist monks" in the "Impact and assessment" section - see the Misplaced Pages articles on Charles Henry Allan Bennett, Gordon Douglas and Anton Gueth for comparison.

Finally, the "was twice tried for sedition" is referenced (in the "Trial and disappearance" section) primarily in Turner 2010, a formally-published and peer-reviewed journal article but not yet available in open-access (it is of course available in the physical and electronic journal, can be bought individually or indeed I can send a pre-print copy if anyone wants to check that it really does mention the first trial!)

As is probably obvious, the idea of a DYK nomination came after writing the article, or I would have organised the article somewhat differently! But all 3 hook facts are there in the sources mentioned in the article (and it took us 18 months of painstaking archival research to disentangle and verify them for ourselves....)

--Laurence Cox (talk) 18:15, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Note-- The citations/references have been converted to shortened footnotes. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 08:03, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

2011 State of the Union Address

• ... that the 2011 State of the Union Address was a speech given by President Barack Obama on January 25, 2011, in the chamber of the United States House of Representatives.
• ALT 1.

• ... that the 2011 State of the Union Address was the first State of the Union address with Speaker of the House John Boehner seated behind the American President Barack Obama?

--BabbaQ (talk) 20:02, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

This article was heavily expanded on January 26.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:03, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Any more interesting hooks? This is true (except for the date) of pretty much every State of the Union address. Ucucha 20:32, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

yes added a new one.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:35, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Please also address the prose-related tag under the "Summary" heading. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 02:00, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I see some work has already been done. If the text is in shaped one way or another shouldnt effect this DYK. As it is DYK ready.--BabbaQ (talk) 12:35, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

• You shouldn't assume that everyone knows which country you're talking about or who Boehner is or what the president is president of. Alt 1 doesn't answer any of these questions. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:32, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Well I have fixed it now.--BabbaQ (talk) 13:51, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• DYK tool link does not confirm expansion. I have the following lengths using MS Word.
• 801 Chars as of 18:56, 19 January 2011
• 935 chars as of 11:20, 21 January 2011
• 1090 chars as of 23:05, 25 January 2011
• 4454 chars as of 18:30, 31 January 2011
• 4444 chars as of now.

article fails to meet 5x starting from the begining of the 26th, we have a 4.08x expansion.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:36, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• Keep in mind that bulletpoints don't count in readable prose. You might want to prosify or lengthen.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:40, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Bright Lights, Bigger City

• ... that "Bright Lights, Bigger City" is the third single from American soul singer Cee Lo Green's third studio album, The Lady Killer?
• ALT1. ... that singer Cee Lo Green appeared on Saturday Night Live to perform "Bright Lights, Bigger City", the third single from his album The Lady Killer, backed by an all-female band?

Created by Mikoism; nominated by BabbaQ (talk) 19:54, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

• Everything seems to check out in terms of creation, size, references, and etc., but the hook seems a bit dull. Is there something more interesting to dredge up? Also, fix the two all-caps reference titles to be title case instead. — KV5 • Talk • 23:07, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

I did a new hook.--BabbaQ (talk) 23:41, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

I edited the hook for conciseness, spelling, and grammar, and added a link. Alt 1 will be fine once the all-caps reference titles in the article are fixed. — KV5 • Talk • 02:44, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

User KimChee made edits necessary. Hope its better now and DYK ready.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:55, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Tewkesbury Medieval Festival

• ... that in 2003, 25,000 people attended the Tewkesbury Medieval Festival, one of the "ten most bizarre festivals" in England, to watch 2,000 people in medieval garb attack each other with steel weapons (pictured)?

• ALT: ... that in 2003, 25,000 people attended the Tewkesbury Medieval Festival, one of the "ten most bizarre festivals" in England, to watch 2,000 people in medieval garb re-enact the Battle of Tewkesbury (pictured)?

• Comment: Article was expanded from 109 words (566 characters) on 21 Jan to 759 words (3903 characters) on 26 Jan.
• Reviewed: Wabbicommicot (), MS Palatia (1928) (), Andreu Mas-Colell ()

5x expanded by Jappalang (talk). Self nom at 14:14, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

• The hook is too long, coming in at 220 characters. The DYK maximum is 200, including spaces, and even this is an absolute maximum. I would try to get this down further than that. In addition, I don't like the "watch 2,000 people in medieval garb attack each other with steel weapons" bit. It makes it sound a little stupid - like, "why would they turn up to watch that?" The truth is, it's a re-enactment of a battle, not a free-for-all "watch 2,000 people act all stupid like". Arctic Night 16:29, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

• It fits once I changed "the United Kingdom" to "England". Note that "(pictured)" is disputed on whether it counts towards the 200-character limit (see E5 of Additional rules); as it is a demand made when a picture is used, I think it should not be counted. As for sounding stupid, the point of the hook is to make it "short, punchy, catchy, and likely to draw the readers in to wanting to read the article. An interesting hook is more likely to draw in a variety of readers." I think it is more interesting to describe the event without telling people about it ("huh? Why would they do that?" vs "yeah, another re-enactment..."). Regardless, I have included a more mundane ALT hook for consideration. Jappalang (talk) 00:20, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
• The hook would have gone over the 200 limit with 'pictured' in it or otherwise. Anyway, for ALT1 - moving admin can make the decision on which hook he or she prefers. Arctic Night 00:40, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

• Alt2: "that 2,000 people in medieval garb re-enacted the Battle of Tewkesbury at the 2003 Tewkesbury Medieval Festival, one of the "ten most bizarre festivals" in England?" Clarityfiend (talk) 02:05, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Much better hook - neat and concise. Reynardo (talk) 03:23, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

* Verified ALT2. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 10:09, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Latin Grammy Award for Producer of the Year

• ... that Italian singer-songwriter Laura Pausini became the first female performer to be nominated for a Latin Grammy Award for Producer of the Year?

5x expanded by Jaespinoza (talk) 07:33, 26 January 2011 (UTC). Self nom at 07:32, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Jerome Lambert

• Cites show Pausini was nominated in 2001 but they're just lists of nominees. There's nothing in the text of the cited articles to show she was the first female performer or, for that matter, that she's female. (Not doubting that, just saying there's nothing here to prove it.) Sure, she was in the second group of nominees ever so it's almost certainly true but the claim in a hook fact must be cited, not merely deduced or inferred. - Dravecky (talk) 22:30, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that Cuban songwriter Emilio Estefan earned the Latin Grammy Award for Producer of the Year the same year he was named Person of the Year by the Latin Academy of Recording Arts & Sciences? Jaespinoza (talk) 00:27, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

• The reference for Emilio Estefan's winning the award is a list of nominations, and doesn't actually mention winners. his being the Latin Academy Person of the Year is properly cited. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 10:14, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• Hi. I think the reference from CNN covers both issues perfectly, it reads like this: "Last week's Latin Grammy awards ceremony offered an array of firsts, beginning with itself: It was an inaugural event. Others also enjoyed the stature that comes with forging something new. One of the event's premiere celebrants was producer-artist Emilio Estefan Jr., named the first-ever Latin Academy Person of the Year. Estefan, already a five-time Grammy winner, also won two Latin Grammys during the ceremony sponsored by the Latin Academy of Recording Arts & Sciences. He was honored as best producer and for having the best music video for the song "No Me Dejes De Querer," which he co-wrote with his wife, singer Gloria Estefan..." I can provide another source, but I think this one is more than enough. Please let me know. Cheers. Jaespinoza (talk) 20:13, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Ho Tung Gardens

• ... that the Government of Hong Kong invoked the Antiquities and Monuments Ordinance for the fourth time in history to protect Ho Tung Gardens?

Created and nominated by Ohconfucius ) at 04:31, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

• My review. --Ohconfucius 06:47, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Ready to go, length, hook and age check out. Racepacket (talk) 12:55, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

• The history section states that the "The compound was designed in a Chinese Renaissance style." "Chinese Renaissance" links to Chinese architecture, but I find no mention there of "Chinese Renaissance". What does it mean? --Hegvald (talk) 08:23, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

• I'm no expert in architecture, but reading from this document, which the sources appear to have cited from, it seems to be the name given to an architectural style of 'East-meets-West', a "fusion of Eastern and Western construction methods and architectural theory". An alternative name seems to be "Chinese Eclectic". – Ohconfucius 13:36, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• Interesting. It is a bit difficult to google, as many places use "renaissance" with the more general meaning of "rebirth" rather than this specific style. Google Books has some promising hits, but many are only available to me as "snippet view". My impression from the few sources I can see is that it is a style that has incorporated aspects of Western architecture, while at the same time returning to traditional Chinese models as a nationalist reaction against this Western influence. There is clearly potential for an interesting new article on this subject. --Hegvald (talk) 10:27, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 27

Amaury Vassili

Amaury Vassili in 2010

• ... that Amaury Vassili is a French singer and the youngest professional tenor in the world?

Created by --BabbaQ (talk) 15:34, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed:Potomac Curling Club.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:38, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• Let's wait a few days, because that image is pending quick deletion if the copyright status remains undetermined. Otherwise, the article, size and hook are okay. Rcej (Robert) - talk 05:23, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

And in case it gets deleted we simply post it without the image.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:50, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Actually, the article won't be DYK-worthy either until the copyright status of that image is certain. :) Rcej (Robert) - talk 03:38, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes I agree with you... But all I was saying is that if it gets deleted it will not effect the article. The image will simply be removed from the article and from this hook.--BabbaQ (talk) 16:34, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

This was nominated 9 days after article creation, well outside the normal 5 day window. - Dravecky (talk) 03:01, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Elizabeth Williams Champney

• ... that Elizabeth W. Champney, author of the "Three Vassar Girls" series, married artist J.W. Champney in 1873 when he happened to pass through her hometown of Manhattan, Kansas, on assignment for Scribner's Monthly.

Expanded by Kgwo1972 (talk). Self nom at 15:47, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

ALT hook ... that Elizabeth W. Champney, author of the "Three Vassar Girls" series, took a drawing class from artist J.W. Champney at a finishing school in Massachusetts, and then married him years later when he passed through her hometown of Manhattan, Kansas, on assignment for Scribner's Monthly.

• Reviewed: 1968 Gator Bowl

The original hook is 213 characters and the alt is 286 characters, both too long to be acceptable. - Dravecky (talk) 03:04, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Tourism in Åland

• ... that a major attraction for tourists in Åland is the islands' having more sunshine hours per year than anywhere else in Scandinavia?

• Reviewed: The Best American Magazine Writing 2007 ()

Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 01:16, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

• Three of the four sources go to Visit Aland, which is pretty much a primary source, since it is "Åland's official tourist and member organisation". And the final source is just an Excel spreadsheet with statistics on it. While i'm sure that the subject is notable, I am pretty much considering the article to be unreferenced at this point. If you wish for this DYK to go through, please find actual reliable sources on the subject. Silverseren 01:20, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

• Interesting argument, although that page comes from the government of the Åland Islands - and the final source comes from the official statistics office of the government of the Åland Islands. The day we start regarding government statistics as unreliable is the day I retire from Misplaced Pages :D Arctic Night 02:17, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

• I think i'm going to need someone else to give a second opinion on this then, since, yes, it is from a government website, but i'm not sure what the rules are for an article sourced entirely to primary sources. Primary sources are allowed, obviously, but I thought there had to also be secondary coverage involved. I'll ask on the DYK talk page for some answers on that. Silverseren 02:28, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

• DYK talk page discussion can be found here. Silverseren 02:33, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

• Since we're now discarding sources published by the Government of the Åland Islands as 'unreliable', I have gone ahead and added some secondary sources to the article - in fact, almost all of the statements on the article now have a secondary source supporting it. These include books, non-government web sites, etc. Arctic Night 17:56, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

• The original reviewer has declined to revisit this one. I'd appreciate a second set of eyes. Thanks, Arctic Night 01:15, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

• I've removed my review symbol. Can someone else please review this? Silverseren 06:40, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

• I should add that the original reviewer's concerns regarding secondary sourcing have now been addressed, as far as I can tell. Everything else seems OK - just waiting on another reviewer to take a look. Arctic Night 11:52, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

• I would argue that the second source is not independent of the subject itself as a tourism organization. Can you find a source that is not somehow related to Åland, its government, or its tourist industry to support the claim? Interestingly enough, a quick google search of "+Åland sunshine" gives only the government/tourism website results, plus a bunch of other sites parroting the same claims word-for-word, and a bunch of unrelated news articles and sites, which makes me wonder if it's not just a publicity gimmick. A meteorological source would be nice. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 10:43, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Tourism in Abkhazia

• ... that despite it being illegal under Georgian law for foreigners to enter Abkhazia without notifying the Georgian government, the territory's Black Sea beaches continue to attract tourists?

• Reviewed: WOLD-FM ()

Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

• Great article, interesting--but that hook, I think, needs better sourcing. This article has 1992-1993 numbers (just over 200,000) and the claim that tourism now is almost back to normal. This article does make the 300,000 claim, but that's hardly a reliable source (and it's in terrible English, also not a confidence booster). I don't think that the 300,000 number is verifiably certain at all, and would propose tweaking or changing the hook. Drmies (talk) 02:26, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks! I've reworded the hook to make the 'success' of tourism more of a general thing. Arctic Night 03:22, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

• Besides, it would be nice for the hook to clarify that it is illegal under the laws of Georgia (a country that has no de facto authority in Abkhazia) for foreigners to enter the country, not under the laws of Abkhazia. Ucucha 02:33, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

• I've added 'technically', although since de jure Georgia does have sovereignty over Abkhazia, I don't think any further elaboration is necessary. Arctic Night 03:22, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

• Well, the governments of Abkhazia and Russia would disagree that it is even "technically" illegal; they'll say that Georgia has no business at all prohibiting people from Abkhazia. Besides, it's not illegal even under Georgian law for foreigners to enter Abkhazia, as long as the Georgian government is informed. Ucucha 03:32, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

• Heh, let's not turn this into a debate over who has the right to control Abkhazia! I've clarified the wording of the hook to leave no doubt that it's under Georgian law under certain circumstances. Arctic Night 03:55, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

• I don't want to debate that either; my point is that such a debate is possible and bypassing the issue is not neutral. I have no problems with the new wording of the hook. Ucucha 12:32, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

• I am not sure the hook is actually correct. As far as I know entering Abkhazia is not illegal under Georgian law, as Abkhazia is considered a part of Georgia. But what is illegal is interacting with the Abkhaz government, i.e. getting your passport stamped. It is perfectly possible and as far as I know legal to cross from Georgia into Abkhazia, as long as you avoid a passport stamp. There is no Georgian passport control at the Gali border. In fact, crossing from Russia into Abkhazia and then into Georgia is not possible, as you would illegaly enter Georgia, i.e. without any Georgian passport control. Pantherskin (talk) 13:19, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

• "The Georgian Interior Ministry proclaimed "visiting Abkhazia and South Ossetia without the knowledge of the Georgian authorities" as a criminal offense in late August." - this is directly from the source cited in the article. As far as I can see, it is illegal for foreigners to enter Abkhazia under Georgian law. Arctic Night 19:54, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• Indeed, the source cited quite clearly states that Georgia has prohibited visits to either of the two breakaway states without the knowledge of the Georgian government. Unless you (Pantherskin) have a better source, we'll have to stick with that. Ucucha 20:26, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

(←) *Thanks Ucucha - is anybody willing to actually put a tick on this one now? It's been sitting here at the nomination stage for quite a while... Arctic Night 15:33, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• The state-owned RIA Novosti is probably the worst possible source for such claims about Georgian legislation, give the history of misinformation and propaganda when it comes to Georgia. See for example for a description of what the actual rules are, or similar the travel warning of the UK . There are unfortunately some other issues too - the warning of increased crime for example is more than seven years old, as the source was published in 2003, even before the Rose Revolution. Not clear at all from the article that this is historical information. Pantherskin (talk) 22:18, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• "...history of misinformation and propaganda..." - really? 'Misinformation and propaganda' are fairly strong words. In fact, the source you gave () actually supports the hook - thank you! It states exactly what the article does. Arctic Night 22:49, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• As a matter of fact, I think Pantherskin may well be right. His sources state that Georgia has prohibited people from entering Abkhazia (or South Ossetia) from Russia, because that would mean entering Georgian territory without going through a Georgian border checkpoint, and therefore entering Georgia illegally. The hook fact (that it is illegal for anyone to enter Abkhazia without permission from the Georgian government) is different, and seems less plausible to me. Ucucha 23:01, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• , Quote: "The original version of this article wrongly stated that Georgian law does not allow foreigners to enter South Ossetia or Abkhazia." Pantherskin (talk) 23:16, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• And here is a translation of the law . Probably an official translation as it is published on the webpage of the Georgian parliament. See clause 4. Pantherskin (talk) 23:26, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Pantherskin - again, that source supports the hook - "a jail term of up to four years for foreigners who enter the breakaway regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia using checkpoints that are not controlled by Georgian authorities." Arctic Night 18:39, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• I give up. What the law and the other sources say is quite obviously different from what the hook says. It seems that this is just another example of how misguided the whole Wikicup is, if factual accuracy is less important than getting this article on the main page. Pantherskin (talk) 19:11, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• Hook: illegal under Georgian law for foreigners to enter Abkhazia without notifying the Georgian government. Claimed to prove the hook is wrong: Georgia has prohibited people from entering Abkhazia (or South Ossetia) from Russia, because that would mean entering Georgian territory without going through a Georgian border checkpoint, and therefore entering Georgia illegally. I...honestly utterly fail to see the difference between these two statements, and/or how the second proves the first wrong? It appears to me that the first is just a simple way of saying the second - since it's illegal to enter Abkhazia from Russia, since that would involve entering without passing through a Georgian checkpoint, therefore it's illegal to enter Abkhazia without the Georgian government being aware, yes? - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 19:34, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• No. Notifying is not the same as crossing a border and showing a passport. And once you have entered Georgia, say via Tbilisi airport you can visit Abkhazia and the Georgian government will not be aware of this visit (because you neither required to notify them nor is there a passport control in Gali/Zugdidi). Pantherskin (talk) 19:41, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• Ah, I see the point...in that case, this should probably get a until a revised hook is provided (assuming the article doesn't make the same claim as well...). - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 19:56, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Syaoran (Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle)

• ... that the main protagonist from the manga series Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle, Syaoran, ends up becoming one of the series' main antagonists?

Created by Tintor2 (talk). Self nom at 19:35, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

• Verified creation date (formerly a redirect page.) Length is good. Suggested alt:

ALT1:... that Syaoran, the main protagonist in the Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle manga series ends up becoming one of the main antagonists?

The reference for the character's being an antagonist is in Japanese, which I'm willing to accept in good faith, but there is no direct inline citation to support the claim of his initial status as a protagonist. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 09:59, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 28

Constantine Dalassenos (duke of Antioch)

• ... that the Byzantine general Constantine Dalassenos came twice close to ascending the throne and marrying the porphyrogenita Zoe, but was rejected in favour of less independent-minded candidates?

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 00:11, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

• - Did you review another article before nominating this one? The new DYK rules suggest that you "indicate at your nomination which nomination you have reviewed and provide a link to the diff for your review," so if you have reviewed an article, I suggest you let us know which one it was. Arctic Night 01:52, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

• Erm, the DYK rules say that I can put my DYK nom here, and then I have to review another one. I didn't have time to do so immediately. Anyhow, I have reviewed Battle of Grochowiska. Constantine ✍ 09:44, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

• Right, and us DYK reviewers usually leave some time for the nominators to review something before leaving a note to say they haven't. However, the gap here was nearly two hours... while I accept you may have been doing something else during that time, I couldn't have known that. Arctic Night 20:28, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment: shouldn't the article be at Constantine Dalassenos (Duke of Antioch) (with a majiscule D in duke)? --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 10:03, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Lester S. Willson

• X ... that in August 1870, Bozeman merchant Lester S. Willson and his wife Emma entertained the civilian members of the Washburn–Langford–Doane Expedition for dinner in their home on the evening before the expedition left Bozeman, Montana on their historic exploration of Yellowstone?

• Reviewed: Railroad industry in Syracuse, New York

Created by Mike Cline (talk). Self nom at 17:56, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

• Original hook, at 278 characters, is over the 200 limit. Suggesting ALT1, which is 199. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:48, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
• ALT1 ... that Bozeman merchant Lester S. Willson and his wife Emma entertained civilian members of the Washburn–Langford–Doane Expedition in their home (pictured) on the evening before they left to explore Yellowstone?
  • Comment: Sounds accurate to me. --Mike Cline (talk) 23:06, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1 hook verified. Length, age verified. There are several paragraphs with no citations; the Campaigns and Montana state militia sections have only a single footnote each and its not clear if that's meant to cover all the paragraphs in the section or if the material relies on other sources. I think DKY usually requires more footnotes than that. --Dbratland (talk) 01:48, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 29

2010–11 Xavier Musketeers men's basketball team

• ... that Tu Holloway, while playing for the 2010–11 Xavier Musketeers men's basketball team, recorded the first triple-double by a Xavier player since 2001?

• Reviewed: The Mama Ayesha's Restaurant Presidential Mural

5x expanded by Editorofthewiki (talk). Self nom at 02:05, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• Length, dates, and references all check out and text seems free of close paraphrasing. - Dravecky (talk) 03:14, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Wombat State Forest

• ... that in Australia, the only initiative to introduce community forestry, within the internationally understood context, is in the Wombat State Forest?

Created by Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk), and Melburnian (talk). Self nom at 05:43, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Samuel Danford Farm

• ALT1: ... that the most western range in Victoria, Australia of the Greater Glider (pictured) is the Wombat State Forest? --Rosiestep (talk) 05:45, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

• Added an img.--Nvvchar. 07:17, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Grand Hotel (New Ulm, Minnesota)

• ... that the three story Grand Hotel (pictured) of New Ulm, Minnesota still shows the signs of when it was a two story building?

Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 06:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed W. Scott Heywood. --Bobak (talk) 06:45, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. Offline sources can be accepted in good faith, however I fail to see the in-line citation. Around The Globe 08:00, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• It's there: The building was two stories. The remnants of cornice are visible between the second and third floors. The paragraphs on structure were all cited to the same source. --Bobak (talk) 18:50, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• Per dyk rules, the hook should have in line citation - even if its the same source for the entire para, can you pl add the citation at the end of the hook as well. Furthermore, the language in the hook is slightly different from whats on the page (still shows the signs of when it was a two story building vs The remnants of a cornice are visible just above the keystones on the second story). I would prefer if the same language was used in both hook and article (I take it that the offline source matches the article in good faith). Around The Globe 05:36, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

• I respectfully disagree with your interpretation of the rules in this instance. The rule says "fact must be mentioned in the article and cited with an inline citation." The fact is mentioned in the article, and it is cited properly via in-line citation; it is not usual to keep using the same citation in succession (except, sometimes, when we're using quotes). We do give our readers credit for understanding that a cornice is part of a roof, this isn't Simple English Misplaced Pages. --Bobak (talk) 19:59, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

• That certainly is the normal rule for citation. However, for dyk there is something more "The hook fact must have an inline citation right after it since the fact is an extraordinary claim; citing the hook fact at the end of the paragraph is not acceptable." (see for more information). Yes, thats my point! Why not use the same word in the hook. Around The Globe 04:59, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• Again, I disagree with your interpretation of the rules. It isn't an extraordinary claim by any stretch. The fact that you can see the remains of a cornice between the second and third floors of a building that used to be two stories does in fact show signs of when it was a two story building. There is no synthesis. There is no need for stating what you're asking. I've had plenty of AGF hooks approved that didn't require such bureaucratic back-flips. It's clear and plain English. --Bobak (talk) 18:13, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

ATG asked me to review this and comment. Standard practice for a DYK hook, even if it's in a paragraph that is one of several with the same running citation, is that it must be cited individually since it is being offered up for potentially greater scrutiny on the Main Page. I have had this rule applied to many of my own hooks and have always complied. Daniel Case (talk) 16:41, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Limacina helicina

• ... that sea butterfly Limacina helicina (pictured) is a keystone species of Arctic open sea?

Created by Snek01 (talk). Self nom at 19:04, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Menggu Ziyun --Snek01 (talk) 12:17, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
• Reviewed: Gustav Gassner --Snek01 (talk) 14:59, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

ALT images: --Snek01 (talk) 14:16, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• Beautiful pictures, nice hook, and a fascinating article, BUT some of the article sentences are copied straight from (for example) Hunt et al. The article should either paraphrase sources or cite them inside quotes. Fix that, and it's GTG. Sharktopus 00:04, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

No. Article is original and interesting per DYK hook criteria. (Even if you would delete all incorporated free texts, then it will be acceptable for DYK rules.) Referencing is also OK and using free texts is properly credited in the reference section. Consider that it is TOP importance article and this NEW article is already in a quality of "good article". Decide about this "fascinating" article as you wish. --Snek01 (talk) 01:02, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

* I'm new at this, so I asked for a second opinion. Sharktopus 01:47, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• Just for the record, the author is the editor who rated this article 'top' priority for the WikiProject in question, not an uninvolved third party. - Dravecky (talk) 18:35, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• Snek01: please keep WP:CIVIL in mind. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 05:00, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

I am sorry for misunderstanding that my accidental wording caused. Feel free to review improved ALT1. --Snek01 (talk) 14:21, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

ALT1:... that sea butterflies Limacina helicina and Limacina antarctica (pictured) are keystone species of polar open seas?

--Snek01 (talk) 01:02, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• There is no ref for the statement that Limacina helicina is a sea butterfly (first sentence, Limacina helicina article). Nor is there a ref for that same fact in the Limacina antarctica article. While the fact that they are both keystone species of Arctic ecosystems is properly cited, the open seas part is not even mentioned in the L. antarctica article.

That having been said, the concept of a predatory sea snail boggles my mind, so if I may suggest an alt?

ALT2:... that Limacina helicina and Limacina antarctica (pictured) are predatory sea snails commonly referred to as "sea butterflies"?

--Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 10:58, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for reviewing:

• All facts from the ALT1 can be verified in first two sentences on the introductory section.
• Sea butterfly is common name for all Thecosomata. That is trivial fact (and is properly referenced in the sea butterfly article). I have added a reference for classification to the Limacina helicina article now. In the second article there is already the corresponding reference for its classification.
• One is Arctic species and the second one is Antarctic. Polar is the proper universal term in this case.
• Pelagic species = species living in the open sea. Term open sea is used for wider audience.
• Why the ALT1 hook is used exactly like this? The most important term in the hook is "keystone species". That means that such species is very very very important. For example whales would have nothing to eat without them and for example fish would have nothing to eat without them and without fish would have penguins nothing to eat. These two species have the highest possible importance and also the highest possible article importance in Misplaced Pages and I nominate them for main DYK hook.

--Snek01 (talk) 11:31, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Every statement needs to be verified with an inline citation. The first sentence of Limacina antarctica reads as follows:

Limacina antarctica is a species of swimming predatory sea snail in the family Limacinidae, which belong to the group commonly known as sea butterflies (Thecosomata).

There is no citation for the part of the sentence that says that L. antarctica is a sea butterfly, nor that it is a part of Thecosomata. The same goes for L. helicina. While the new citation does properly identify it as a part of Thecosomata, it doesn't identify it as a sea butterfly. It doesn't matter if this (Thecosomata=sea butterfly) is properly referenced in the sea butterfly article; it needs to be properly referenced in this article if you want to mention it in the hook.

I am not saying that the word "polar" is misused. I was not aware that "pelagic" referred to a species that lived in the open ocean; it would be a good idea to define the term in the article, as the target audience for Misplaced Pages is the wider audience.

I do not understand your last point. When I suggested ALT2, I was merely pointing out another feasible alternative for considering as a possible hook. Personally, my only experience with snails are the boring slow kind in the back yard (or the kind served as escargot), so the concept of a predatory variety I found more interesting than its status as a keystone species. (And the juxtaposition of being both a predator and a "butterfly.")

Yes, I know a lot of this citation stuff seems outrageous and very nitpicky, and I agree that it's very redundant, but it's policy.

Also, please don't edit other peoples' comments, even in good faith. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 11:56, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Word sea butterfly does not need to be referenced. It is trivial fact. ("Sea butterfly" is even directly mentioned in titles of two references.) You will also not find a reference, that Limacina is a snail, but you will find a reference that Limacina belongs to Limacinidae. It is the same trivial as "Mammal is an animal", "Technician is a human" and "Car is an transport vehicle". There is not demanded a reference for all hundreds mammals in the DYK hooks (as well for hundreds of sea butterflies), that they are also animals. This term is unlikely to be challenged and so does not need a special reference per Misplaced Pages:Verifiability.

The term "pelagic" has wikilink in the article. It is OK.

I would avoid the term "predatory" in the hook. The term is correct, but they feed also on phytoplankton. (Out of 60000 gastropod species predatory focused hook are used and will be used in other articles about exclusive predators.) --Snek01 (talk) 12:42, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

I disagree with you on whether "sea butterflies" requires citation, so I'm going to ask for a second third opinion. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 13:34, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Caffo, St Caffo's Church, Llangaffo

• ... that St Caffo's Church, Llangaffo, Wales (pictured), commemorates St Caffo who was martyred in the area in the 6th century?

• Reviewed: Florida v. Thomas ()

Created by Bencherlite (talk). Self nom at 07:46, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 19:16, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 30

MV York/ MV Izumi

• ... that with the use of the captured merchant vessels MV Izumi and MV York as motherships Somali pirates introduced a new strategy that has been said to be game-changing?

Created by Ekem (talk). Self nom at 21:52, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Carlson Sparrow Ekem (talk) 21:55, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
• Reviewed Idamalayar Dam Ekem (talk) 22:08, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Idamalayar Dam

• ... that a High Level Committee which examined reasons of delay in execution of the Idamalayar Dam project (Dam pictured) in Kerala stated it as a "victim of recurring and long inertial periods of labour unrest"?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 14:11, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed lavaslope centaury.--Nvvchar. 17:33, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• Nice expansion. A couple of comments: I suggest to be consistent when discussing how long it took to built the dam,- in the intro it was built in 1985, and in the last section on construction delay it says "The Idamalayar Dam project was started in 1970 and completed after 17 years", while ref # 15 seems to suggest it took 9 years. Then, I had trouble getting to ref # 1 (possibly a temporary problem). The quotation "victim of recurring and long inertial periods of labour unrest" on page 7 of the document (ref # 15) actually refers to another dam, so consider to modify the hook. Ekem (talk) 14:46, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for the review. Please see the discussion page of the article for my replies.--Nvvchar. 16:22, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

• Replies seen and clarifications have been made. All ok now.Ekem (talk) 22:38, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks, Ekam.--Nvvchar. 01:35, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Legality Movement

• ... that during World War II, the Legaliteti sought the return of King Zog (pictured) to the throne of Albania?

• Comment: Non-self-nom

Created by OLD ALBANIAN PHOTOS (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 06:09, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• Hook verified AGF offline, article is ready and prose is 1870 per DYKcheck, img is good. Rcej (Robert) - talk 08:21, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Consolidated XB2Y

• ... that the center section of the Consolidated XB2Y (pictured) was cut from a solid steel block?

• Comment: Non-self-nom

Created by Nigel Ish (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 04:06, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go. Ekem (talk) 14:57, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

New Georgia, Liberia

• ... that New Georgia, Liberia was settled by Africans "recaptured" from a slave ship and held for seven years in Georgia awaiting for courts to decide their fate?

5x expanded by Donald Albury (talk). Self nom at 02:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• Comment - reviewed Assembly of Vlorë -- Donald Albury 03:07, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

The hook does not have a reference. Can you make a box, or is the information not available? 24.170.93.121 (talk) 23:17, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

The hook is a summation of the first five sentences in the second paragraph, with three sources cited at the end of the fifth sentence. Why is an infobox needed? -- Donald Albury 11:57, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

I have now placed cites at the end of each of the five sentences that are summarized in the hook. -- Donald Albury 21:30, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Way Kambas National Park

• ... that Way Kambas National Park in Indonesia hosts a breeding centre for the critically endangered Sumatran Rhinoceros (pictured)?

• Reviewed: Marojejy National Park

5x expanded by Elekhh (talk). Self nom at 12:21, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

• 5x checks out, hook checks out. Great work! Nomader 21:46, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Marojejy National Park

• ... Marojejy National Park (pictured) contains the last remaining mountain scrub in Madagascar to be unaltered by fire?

5x expanded by Visionholder (talk). Self nom at 08:09, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Farman Moustique
• Comment: Originally replaced a stub with a translation from the French article, but discovered numerous copyright violations, so re-wrote and will continue to expand and enhance over the coming days. – VisionHolder « talk » 08:09, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
• ALT1: ... that Marojejy National Park (pictured) is rich in biodiversity and home to one of the world's 25 most endangered primates, the silky sifaka?
  • All good, nice article. The Alt1 hook is more likely to be of broad interest. Elekhh (talk) 12:09, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
• An alternate image for this hook is File:Camp Marojejia 01.jpg. I'm fine with either one. – VisionHolder « talk » 04:17, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
• Wow! Another nice alternate image just got uploaded. Have fun choosing: File:Ambatotsondrana 01.jpg – VisionHolder « talk » 07:31, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Ed Westcott

• ... that before Ed Westcott photographed J. Robert Oppenheimer holding a cigarette (pictured), he gave the physicist money so he could buy cigarettes?

Created by Orlady (talk). Self nom at 21:48, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviews: Focusing on some of the older problematic nominations, I removed Fernald Hall from the page as failed , reviewed history of Club Oasis and marked it as failed , suggested alternate hook to resolve issue with The Dark Knight Rises and fixed an apparent URL problem in that article . --Orlady (talk) 22:53, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

ALT sugg. ... that before Ed Westcott photographed J. Robert Oppenheimer in 1946 holding a cigarette (pictured), he first had to give the physicist change to buy a pack of cigarettes?

I disagree with this suggestion. There is no indication that he "had to" give Oppenheimer the cigarette. All indications are that he did it voluntarily. Baldwin Lee (offline source) suggests that the cigarette was Westcott's idea to improve the pose. --Orlady (talk) 22:59, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Hook checks out with source. Can you find Westcott's date of birth? Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:20, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for checking out the hook source. If I could find Westcott's birthdate, I would have included it in the article. Since he was 20 years old in December 1942, he probably was born in 1922, but an offline source mentions his being 13 in 1934, so he might have born in late 1921. --Orlady (talk) 22:59, 30 January 2011 (UTC) Sonuvagun -- I found his birthdate and added it to the article! --Orlady (talk) 23:43, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 00:48, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Zeltnera namophila

• ... that the spring-loving centaury and other rare plants at the Ash Meadows National Wildlife Refuge are declining because of groundwater pumping?

Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 14:12, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

• The pdf source is somehow not searchable. Try page 9. --PFHLai (talk) 14:16, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

• Everything checks out. I was just wondering if it wouldn't be a better idea to go for shortened footnotes in this article considering that the pdf is referenced 13 times.Regstuff (talk) 06:24, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

WP:BEBOLD. :-) --PFHLai (talk) 09:42, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Grammy Award for Best Rap/Sung Collaboration

• ... that American rapper Jay-Z (pictured) has won the Grammy Award for Best Rap/Sung Collaboration four times since its conception in 2002?

5x expanded by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 10:54, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

An inline citation for the claim in the hook would be nice. Stonemason89 (talk) 03:12, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

• The lead does not need to cite information in the main list. Adabow (talk · contribs) 07:41, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

• Okay then, looks like everything's fine. Stonemason89 (talk) 13:39, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Brian K. Zahra –

St Twrog's Church, Bodwrog

• ... that the 15th-century church of St Twrog, Bodwrog, Wales (pictured), has some bull's head decorations, showing its link with a prominent local family of that time?

• Reviewed: Gerald Cuthbert diff

Created by Bencherlite (talk). Self nom at 08:03, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good to me! Reaper Eternal (talk) 19:26, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Sigur Plateau

• ... that the Sigur Plateau is a wildlife corridor which is important for maintaining the genetic diversity of elephants (pictured) and tigers in South India?

Created by Marcus334 (talk). Self nom at 06:13, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

• I started review of Sunny South (clipper).-Marcus334 (Talk) 06:34, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Switched image_Marcus334 (Talk) 19:08, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

The abbreviated form of citations needs to be expanded so that the reader can identify them.--Wetman (talk) 05:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

• Moved full reference to its first mention, so

16. ^R. Sundararaju, p. 3 and other R. Sundararaju references are easily identified with:

4. ^R. Sundararaju, I.F.S., Chairman of the experts committee, Principal Chief Conservator of Forests & Chief Wildlife Warden, (2009-10-13), REPORT OF THE EXPERT COMMITTEE FORMED IN PURSUANCE OF THE DIRECTION OF THE HON'BLE HIGH COURT IN W.P.NO.10098/2008, 2762 & 2839 of 2009., Chennai: Tamil Nadu Forest Department, p. 6, retrieved 2011-1-28

Repitition of full reference for diferent pages of same source is not necessary.

Just go to first citation, clik link and scroll to page indicated.

Otherwise I misunderstood meaning of 'expanded' above and specific clarification needed-Marcus334 (Talk) 01:13, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

John Hines (Australian soldier)

• ... that a photograph of Private John Hines with the German money and equipment he had looted during the Battle of Polygon Wood in 1917 (pictured) is one of the best known Australian images of World War I?

Created by Nick-D (talk). Self nom at 05:44, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

• I've reviewed the nomination for HMS Achilles (1905) above Nick-D (talk) 05:56, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Source and hook good, Sadads (talk) 13:43, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Latin Grammy Award for Best Female Pop Vocal Album

• ... that American singer Christina Aguilera was awarded the Latin Grammy Award for Best Female Pop Vocal Album in 2001?

5x expanded by Jaespinoza (talk) 02:35, 30 January 2011 (UTC). Self nom at 02:34, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Wolfenstein 1D

• The article has not been 5x expanded yet (636 to 1659). - PM800 (talk) 08:13, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Do you mean that I have to add 636 characters? Or that the article was 636 and I have to expand it to 3180? Jaespinoza (talk) 08:34, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

• It has to be expanded to 3180 characters, yes. - PM800 (talk) 08:38, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Sunny South (clipper)

• X ... that the Sunny South (also called Emanuela or Manuela), captured in 1860 with a cargo of over 800 slaves, was considered the fastest ship sailing out of Havana, and one of three American-built clipper ships in the 1850s slave trade?

Created by Djembayz (talk). Self nom at 04:44, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Sunny South (clipper) was not linked in hook. I fixed it

First fact improperly referenced. Neither fact can be confirmed without hard copy. It's a well known book. Someone should be able to check.-Marcus334 (Talk) 06:30, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

• Original hook, at 232 characters, is over the 200 limit. ALT1 is 198. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 06:46, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
• ALT1: ... that the Sunny South, captured in 1860 with a cargo of over 800 slaves, was considered the fastest ship sailing out of Havana, and one of three American-built clipper ships in the 1850s slave trade?
• Thanks for help-- corrections are needed. Should have waited till the next day and looked it over! Chappelle is not available online but is a standard book. If you can work the name "Manuela" into the DYK, it seems to be the second most commonly found form.
• Corrected version: ... that the Sunny South, captured in 1860 with a cargo of over 800 slaves, was considered the fastest slaver sailing out of Havana, and one of three American-built clipper ships in the 1850s slave trade?Djembayz (talk) 04:34, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Commented on Chautla Hacienda. I have less than 5 DYK; still getting up to speed on all this.

Zliten mosaic

• ... that these gladiators (pictured) are from the Zliten mosaic, an ancient Roman floor mosaic from the 2nd century AD?

• ALT1:... that the Zliten mosaic (portion pictured) is an ancient Roman floor mosaic from the 2nd century AD that depicts gladiators and scenes from ordinary life?
• Reviewed: Pogonomyrmex californicus, Milton Levine

Created by Empathictrust (talk). Nominated by Zachlipton (talk) at 08:31, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• Amended hook to avoid redirects. Schwede66 09:34, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 31

Handel Festival Halle

• ... that Howard Arman conducted George Frideric Handel's opera Tolomeo in 1996 for the Handel Festival, Halle?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 22:51, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

• for 23 February, Handel's birthday, for which the article was requested. Howard Arman was expanded, but not 5x. - reviewed: #Hamaxitus --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:02, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

• Shouldn't it be called the Handel Festival, Halle? Ericoides (talk) 14:19, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• The older one is called Göttingen International Handel Festival (but you would not find it looking for Handel), also Handel Festival Göttingen. The third one in Germany: Karlsruhe. Talking about the Bach cantatas we went for "the least cluttered". If you have a comma in the name, you have to remember to add one after the apposition. The festival could be called just Handel Festival, because it seems to be The Handel Festival, but that would probably cause trouble in Göttingen and Karlsruhe, smile, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:25, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
• forget all that, was moved, not by me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:21, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• The mover's rationale was quite correct, that it might be misconstrued as "hall" (that's what I thought it would be when I clicked on the link...). Ericoides (talk) 11:20, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• In this case (tempted to say The Handel Festival),

ALT1:... that Howard Arman conducted George Frideric Handel's opera Tolomeo in 1996 for the Handel Festival in Halle, where the composer was born on 23 February 1685?

Minuscule 71

• ... that according to Scrivener, there are a few manuscripts of the Greek New Testament from the 12th century, with equal importance as Minuscule 71?

• Reviewed: Samaikyandhra Movement

5x expanded by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 21:58, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

St Ffinan's Church, Llanffinan ‎

• ... that unlike most other churches in the Welsh county of Anglesey, St Ffinan's Church (pictured) was built in Romanesque revival style?

• Reviewed: Erfreute Zeit im neuen Bunde, BWV 83 ()

Created by Bencherlite (talk). Self nom at 18:22, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

OK. Is it possible though to put Wales in the title? The odd wording of the name might cause some not to bother to call it up for a look. Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:00, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Changed "Anglesey, Wales" to "Welsh county of Anglesey" and piped the church name to remove the parish, to avoid the long run of commas. Better? Bencherlite 23:25, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

I've amended the hook to avoid a redirect. Schwede66 09:36, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

There is no reason to do this, actually. Bencherlite 16:15, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

There is a recent discussion about redirects on the discussion page. If the redirect was intentional in line with what is on the discussion page, feel free to put it back in. Schwede66 00:35, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Yep, read that already, and still don't see why the redirect needed to be changed, but it's not worth changing back. It's a different matter if it's the hook subject, because that might skew readership stats, but no-one's going to care about readership stats for Anglesey or related redirects. Bencherlite 19:16, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

2011 24 Hours of Daytona, Joey Hand, Memo Rojas

• ... that Gray's Anatomy star Patrick Dempsey (pictured) placed third in his class in the 2011 24 Hours of Daytona endurance race, won overall by a team comprising drivers Scott Pruett, Memo Rojas, Graham Rahal and Joey Hand?

• Reviewed: 1973 DeKalb-Peachtree Airport Learjet 24 crash
• Comment: Race article was created for ITN, but looks like it won't make the cut there. Also yes, over 200 char hook, but as I recall multiple hooks are given a bit of leeway there?

2011 24 Hours of Daytona, Joey Hand created by The Bushranger (talk). Memo Rojas 2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 16:50, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

• Expanded Memo Rojas per the unreferenced BLP rule. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 20:12, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

• I've amended the hook to avoid a redirect. Schwede66 09:40, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Canadian mining in the Democratic Republic of the Congo

• ... that one Canadian Mining firm in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, First Quantum Minerals, is estimated to be the Republic's largest taxpayer, US$57m. - roughly equal to the entire Congolese health budget?

• ALT1:... that Canadian mining in the Democratic Republic of the Congo involves fifteen major Canadian mining companies holding 118 mining titles with investments totaling Cdn.$1.4 billion?
• Comment: Spotted this phenomenally long and well sourced new article in newpages

Created by IVX8O8XVI (talk). Nominated by Zachlipton (talk) at 20:14, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

• I've changed the hooks to avoid redirects. I note that there are multiple cleanup tags in the article; this will have to be sorted before we can proceed with a DYK review. Schwede66 05:38, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• Currently at AfD so we'll have to wait for that to sort itself out. SmartSE (talk) 21:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Humanist minuscule

• ... that humanist minuscule handwriting, invented in the fifteenth century in Italy, was based on Carolingian minuscule, which Renaissance humanists took to be ancient Roman?

Created by Wetman (talk). Self nom at 23:46, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed St Michael's Church, Longstanton

• Size ok, date ok, source ok (I will AGF since it is not available online).--Antidiskriminator (talk) 00:34, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• The article has a stub tag (we don't promote stubs at DYK), but short of just removing that tag, it does read like a stub. If you deduct the direct quote from the prose, it's also short of 1500 bytes. Also, Antiquity needs to be disambiguated. Schwede66 09:46, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed this nomination according to the criteria, using online counter that says 1696 characters without title and notes. The criteria says: "Articles must have a minimum of 1,500 characters of prose (ignoring infoboxes, categories, references, lists, tables etc.)" I am afraid that applying another criteria is not supported by the rules and can create a bad precedent.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 09:56, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• I've had another look at the additional rules and you are right. In A2, it excludes blockquotes, but not direct quotes within a sentence. And if it's long enough for DYK purposes, then D11 says that stub tags should ordinarily be removed. I shall go ahead and remove that tag. Schwede66 17:35, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• So many rules that once were guidelines! The revision history now gives 5,478 bytes, but there are very special ways of counting available only to DYK Guardians.--Wetman (talk) 04:45, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

• DYK is interested in the size of readable prose only, so the info from the revision history is meaningless. In the column on the left, under 'Toolbox', I have an option called 'Page size' (I assume it's there by default, as I couldn't see where you enable it in preferences). When you click that, it gives you all sorts of page size stats, including readable prose. That's what I use. Schwede66 02:08, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 1

Roberto González Goyri

• ... that Guatemalan Roberto González Goyri, who was awarded the Order of the Quetzal, illustrated a children's book in Cubism style?

Created by Ser Amantio di Nicolao (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 02:32, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Peter Maitlis

• Comment: The article was created Feb 1, and edited through Feb 5. I apologize for not getting it nom'ed until today due to confusion as to which of us was going to do the nom. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:47, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Spawn (biology)

• ... that when greater hooked squid spawn, the males fertilize the females with the longest penis relative to body size (pictured) of any mobile animal?

5x expanded by Epipelagic (talk). Self nom at 23:39, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Admit it -- you just want to get the word "penis" on the front page. :)

5x expansion is good. There is no reference for the greater hooked squid, or his penis -- actually the only mention of the squid is the caption of an image.

Alt suggestions:

ALT1:... that the testes of spawning fish can account for up to 12% of the mass of the fish?

ALT2:... fish ladders are constructed so that salmon can navigate past hydroelectric dams on their way to spawn?

ALT3:... that a single female California spiny lobster can spawn between 120,000 and 680,000 offspring at a time?

--Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 11:41, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• Umm, the penis hook is cited here and here. I had it under the taxonomic name in the article, but I've now made it clearer. --Epipelagic (talk) 12:55, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• Verified and good to go. (Let's see if "penis" makes it to the main page....) --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 13:35, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Cameroon line

• ... that the Cameroon line of volcanoes is 1,000 kilometres (620 mi) long?

• Reviewed: Pacific Salmon Commission

5x expanded by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 01:28, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• The hook lacks an in-line citation. Date and 5x expansion look good though. Jrcla2 (talk) 20:20, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Fixed. First sentence of the article gives the hook and now cites a source that has the hook in its first sentence. Aymatth2 (talk) 20:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go. Jrcla2 (talk) 21:10, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Is it too late to nominate Mount Oku and make this a double hook?

• ALT1: ... that the Cameroon line of volcanoes is 1,000 kilometres (620 mi) long, and includes Mount Oku, the second highest mountain in Cameroon?

I'm not sure if we need extra refs for the "2nd highest" bit, though. Even if I can't find it in the linked Googlebook, it doesn't mean that it's not in the book. --PFHLai (talk) 00:19, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• I added another source to both articles confirmed Mount Oku is "second highest peak in mainland West Africa" at 3,011m. Pico Basilé in Bioko, part of the same chain of volcanoes, is so close at 3,007m it is safer to say "in Cameroon" in the ALT1 tag. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:00, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Oliver Lewis (violinist)

• ... that Oliver Lewis (pictured), founding member of the electronic music group Deviations Project, is considered to be the "world's fastest violinist"?

Created by Daicaregos (talk). Self nom at 23:29, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Length, date, reference and hook look ok. Good to go.Alexikoua (talk) 22:38, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

York Lions women's ice hockey

• ... that on February 11, 2000, the York Lions played in the longest game in the history of Canadian women's ice hockey?

Created by Maple Leaf (talk). Self nom at 23:19, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Joe Cavanagh. Maple Leaf (talk) 23:20, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Thomas' Legion

• ... that Thomas' Legion, one of the few legions of the American Civil War, was the last Confederate unit to surrender in North Carolina?

Created by Clarityfiend (talk). Self nom at 23:03, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that Cherokees of Thomas' Legion, one of the few legions of the American Civil War, caused a furor by scalping several dead or wounded Union soldiers after one of their own was killed in an ambush?

Reviewed Léon Lemartin. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:04, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Amber 31422

• ... that Fringe episode Amber 31422 was the first project identical twin brothers Shawn Ashmore and Aaron Ashmore had worked on together in fifteen years?

Created by Ruby2010 talk 06:44, 4 February 2011 (UTC) (UTC)

Reviewed Herbert Whitfield. Ruby2010 talk 06:52, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

St. James' Episcopal Church (Batavia, New York)

• ... that a dying parishioner paid for architect Robert North to travel so that his design for St. James' Episcopal Church (pictured) in Batavia, New York, would reflect "the quiet spirit of the English countryside"?

• ALT1:... that architect Robert North, designer of St. James' Episcopal Church (pictured) in Batavia, New York, had been a choirboy at the church in his youth?
• ALT2:... that Robert North's Neo-Gothic design for St. James' Episcopal Church (pictured) in Batavia, was the first of his 65 similar churches in Western New York?
• Reviewed: Plutonyl ()

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 06:21, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Pipe Dream (musical)

• ... that Henry Fonda took singing lessons to prepare to be the male lead in Rodgers and Hammerstein's Pipe Dream, but said that even so, he "couldn't sing for shit"?

5x expanded by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 03:41, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed GT-1 (missile) btw.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:44, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• Date and hook ref verified, astonishing expansion given the length of the previous version of the article. As I have not seen any DYK rules against profanity in hooks, I presume naughty words are permitted on the main page? KimChee (talk) 11:00, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

I used the same word when I had DYK for Checkers speech two years ago (out of the mouth of Nixon, btw). This is a rather bawdy article, I think using this hook sets the right tone. Thanks for the praise.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:23, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but don't put it near the top of the set. Daniel Case (talk) 03:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Techno Viking

• ... that Techno Viking has received more than 20 million clicks on YouTube and given rise to more than 700 responses and remixed versions?

Created by Yngvadottir (talk). Self nom at 17:46, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

• Created out of redirect. There were and are a couple of lines in Fuckparade. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:48, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
• I reviewed Hallsteinn Sigurðsson: diff Yngvadottir (talk) 15:57, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

The Princeton Companion to Mathematics

• ... that The Princeton Companion to Mathematics is edited by Fields medalist Timothy Gowers and includes contributions from four other Fields medalists?

• ALT1 ... that The Princeton Companion to Mathematics is the 2011 winner of the Mathematical Association of America's Euler Book Prize?

• Reviewed: Campanula robinsiae & Cardamine micranthera

5x expanded by David Eppstein (talk). Self nom at 03:18, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

(Note: the Euler Book Prize article is also new, but I haven't bolded it because I'm unsure whether it qualifies: it has >1500 characters of prose, but most of it is in a list.) —David Eppstein (talk) 04:45, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Huejotzingo

• ... that the city of Huejotzingo, Mexico celebrates Carnival with four battalions firing wooden muskets at each other?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 00:45, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Paprykarz szczeciński

National Liberation Army (Peru)

• ... that Javier Heraud and Edgardo Tello were hailed as "guerrilla poets" after their deaths serving in the Peruvian National Liberation Army?

Created by HelperMonkey (talk). Self nom at 00:00, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

(oddly, you do not seem to have a "Warrior Poet" article to which I can link...very odd) HelperMonkey (talk) 00:00, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

• Comment HelperMonkey just registered yesterday; this is the first time s/he has tried for a DYK. Nyttend (talk) 17:18, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Sykes (dog)

• ... that the dog actor Sykes starred in the award winning advert "Every Home Needs a Harvey", viewed over a million times on YouTube?

• Reviewed: Summer Sports: Paradise Island

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 23:15, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• Forgot to mention - another one for 15th February here. Miyagawa (talk) 12:33, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Olav Braarud

• ... that Olav Braarud was the last managing director of the Oslo light rail company Holmenkolbanen that hailed from Sør-Trøndelag?

Created by Eisfbnore (talk). Self nom at 22:45, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Edgar Hull

• ... that the Louisiana physician Edgar Hull was involved in the founding of that state's two public medical schools in New Orleans and Shreveport?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:48, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that nearly a half-century after the assassination of Huey Long, the Louisiana physician Edgar Hull disputed a longstanding claim that Long had received inferior medical treatment following the fatal shooting?

Reviewed Laurence Sheil

• Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 12:52, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Grammy Award for Producer of the Year, Classical

• ... that father and son producers Thomas and David Frost have both been presented Grammy Awards for Classical Producer of the Year?

5x expanded by Another Believer (talk). Self nom at 21:38, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• Unsure if this is actually 5x expanded within the appropriate time frame. Someone else may want to double check. HstryQT (talk) 15:28, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

The Mystery of a Hansom Cab

• ... that The Mystery of a Hansom Cab by Fergus Hume outsold Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes 1887 novel A Study in Scarlet worldwide?

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 14:12, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Note: I reviewed Democratic Farmers League of Sweden. -- Cirt (talk) 14:12, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• Everything checks out, although it may be important to state where it sold out Sherlock Holmes. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 14:21, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

I rechecked the source. It was worldwide. ;) -- Cirt (talk) 14:33, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

It would be more compelling to state that both in the hook and in the article. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 14:53, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Done. -- Cirt (talk) 15:09, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for being incremental, but a hook of this magnitude needs further clarification. Outsold everywhere but when? For how long? –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 15:35, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

The hook, and the article, specify this. In the year 1887. -- Cirt (talk) 15:39, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

The way the hook is worded, it appears that it outsold the 1887 publication, as a book may be republished several times. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 15:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that is correct. The quote from the cited secondary source states: "it went on to sell over half a million copies worldwide, outselling Conan Doyle's A Study in Scarlet (1887)". Satisfied? :) -- Cirt (talk) 15:45, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Since the reference fails to say when it outsold the other (it merely gave as the year the other book was published) reword it to "...outsold Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes 1887 novel A Study in Scarlet worldwide –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 15:56, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Done. -- Cirt (talk) 15:57, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Ballard Bunder Gatehouse

• ... that, built in 1920, Ballard Bunder Gatehouse (pictured) in Mumbai was obscured from view for more than 50 years until it was restored and dedicated to the city as a maritime museum by the Indian Navy?

Created/expanded by AroundTheGlobe (talk). Self-nominated at 07:20, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• while size and date check, and offline sources will be accepted AGF, the hook is slightly too long (201 chars) and the language is also cumbersome. While the length could probably be fixed, I would like to suggest the following slightly shorter but clearer hook. (I also took liberty to corrected a capitalization issue in the original hook) --Muhandes (talk) 16:53, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that Ballard Bunder Gatehouse (pictured) was obscured from view for more than 50 years until it was restored by the Indian Navy and dedicated to the city of Mumbai as a maritime museum?

Looks good - thanks for the suggestion. Cheers, Around The Globe 05:27, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

ALT1 good to go, AGF on offline sources. I've stroke out the original. --Muhandes (talk) 05:42, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Grand Hotel (New Ulm, Minnesota) Around The Globe 06:26, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

2011 Saxony-Anhalt train accident

• ... that heavy fog meant that helicopters were unable to participate in rescue operations after a recent train wreck in Saxony-Anhalt, Germany?

5x expanded by C628 (talk). Self nom at 00:24, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Military history of the Aleutian Islands. C628 (talk) 00:24, 2 February 2011 (UTC):

• Length, date and source check out. Good work on the article. 03md 00:04, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Karl Berhhard Zoeppritz

• ... that Karl Bernhard Zoeppritz (pictured) was a German geophysicist whose equations use seismic waves to map underground features?

• Reviewed: WGRQ Reynardo (talk) 03:43, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Created by Kwinkunks (talk). Nominated by Reynardo (talk) at 03:43, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• Edited hook to remove underscores in links and bold main article. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 14:02, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 2

Christian Wilhelm Franz Walch

• ... that C. W. F. Walch in his main work "Entwurf einer vollständigen Historie der Ketzereien" (1762-1785) claimed for the heretics a place in the church?

• ALT1:... that Christian Wilhelm Franz Walch in his history of the church (1762-1785) claimed for the heretics a place in the church?
• Reviewed: William Matthew Scott

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 18:12, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

January 31–February 2, 2011 North American winter storm

• ... that the Groundhog Day blizzard and ice storm of 2011 produced storm surges near Chicago and forced the first school cancellations in both Chicago and Toronto since 1999?

Created by AstroHurricane001 (talk). Self nom at 16:39, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Hubble Bubble (astronomy) (see below). ~AH1 16:39, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Looks pretty good. History2007 (talk) 22:18, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Hubble Bubble (astronomy)

• ... that the Hubble Bubble was a mysterious void sphere centered on Earth predicted from velocities of Type Ia Supernovae (pictured)?

Created by Sharktopus (talk). Self nom at 04:45, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Augustus Wade Dwight. Sharktopus 04:53, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good, though the blurb could use a link to Local Void and/or Redshift and/or radial velocity; the article would benefit from a specific reference showing the bubble is centered around Earth. ~AH1 16:39, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks so much for the helpful suggestions. I re-worked the article a bit -- two of the references mention Earth's hypothetical central position in the local void, so I noted that. Trying a better hook too in line with your suggestion--it is less than 200 char if we don't count the linktext. Sharktopus 01:54, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• ALT ... that the Hubble Bubble was a mysterious local void sphere centered on Earth, predicted from redshift velocities of Type Ia Supernovae (pictured)?

Leonardville, Namibia

• ... that of the 500 remaining Namibian San speaking Taa, over 50 reside in Leonardville?

Created by Namiba (talk), Pgallert (talk). Nominated by Pgallert (talk) at 19:03, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed Block cellular automaton, Norman Margolus (check) --Pgallert (talk) 19:22, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
• hook reference is is the graphics of ref 3 which lists Leonardville with a symbol meaning "more than 50 speakers". --Pgallert (talk) 19:22, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Bruce Jackson (audio engineer)

• ... that Bruce Jackson, who mixed concert sound for Elvis Presley and Bruce Springsteen, was described by Barbra Streisand as "the best sound engineer in the world"?

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 12:07, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Google Art Project. Binksternet (talk) 12:24, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
• Date, length fine. Well referenced article. Hook referenced, ref checks out. Mjroots (talk) 12:43, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Rich Representation Language

• ... that the Rich Representation Language, was specifically designed to facilitate the interaction of two or more animated characters?

Created by user:History2007 (talk). Self nom at 23:38, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Museo Regional del Sureste de Petén

DYK check successful. But the hook is neither interesting nor understandable to laypeople. I would recommend something less boring, but can't find anything in the article.  Sandstein  13:20, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Well, fair enough. The real reason I wrote this article was that it was a very comprehensive design approach and a true pioneering research effort. The challenge for Misplaced Pages is that if I write a new article about Charlie Sheen's problems yesterday, 10 million people will be interested in it. But on "matters of substance" it is natural that it will not be sexy. To those interested in animation this will be a useful article, so let me think of something. As for the hook explanation, the idea is that most animations work on one character, this dealt with how two or three people interact. What do you consider non-boring about animation? History2007 (talk) 13:27, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

I think the subject - basically a programming language for animated movies? - is interesting enough. There is surely some aspect of it that can be explained in nontechnical terms? I find the article itself very difficult to read because it relies heavily on jargon and assumes knowledge of advanced topics in animation. For instance, the text "and to manage much of the animation via words perhaps as voice. Due to the interdependence of components such as facial features on the spoken words" is completely impossible for me to understand. Also, more wikilinks could help to relieve the jargon problem, such as links to semantics.  Sandstein  13:39, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Actually it was not for movies. And that means I need to clarify a few things. I just built NECA Project 10 minutes ago and it says that one of the applications was three people talking in a e-Showroom, and has a link to a very early demo which showed they were pioneers. The conversation in the showroom changes depending on which car you want to know about. Maybe that will provide ideas too. And yes, I should probably add more links. I guess I am just too used to the technical terms, but Wikilinks should be easy to add. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 13:44, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

How about: ... that the Rich Representation Language, includes commands for displaying a wide range of emotions in the faces of animated characters? History2007 (talk) 13:57, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

That would be a good hook, but this fact would need to be mentioned and cited in the article.  Sandstein  14:09, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Fine. And yes, it would need expansion on the emotional features that have not been fully elaborated. I will do that later today and also add more wikilinks etc. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 14:11, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

I have now added the hook and its reference to the Speech synthesis and emotive markers section and also added links. Now, let me once again take the opportunity to use this as a soap box to complain about the availability of experts to fix articles within Misplaced Pages in general. Many of the links I added lead to articles that have "no good tags" on them, e.g. Virtual world (a virtual disaster), Skeletal animation (a skeleton article looking for meat/substance), Computer facial animation (zero references), etc., etc. I have started fixing some of the computer animation articles, but it will probably take most of 2011 to do that. And no one else is in sight. Misplaced Pages policy needs to change to attract and maintain more experts. I have said this before and let me say it again at every opportunity. History2007 (talk) 23:02, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Thanks for your improvements and the article is now ready for DYK with the hook "... that the Rich Representation Language includes commands for displaying a wide range of emotions in the faces of animated characters?" (I've omitted a superfluous comma).  Sandstein  08:28, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. And I am sorry about my unending complaints about the need for fixing "all article". I just wish they were all error free. In general, the articles on mathematics are in fact in much better shape than computing. But hopefully by 2012 I will have fixed animation and by 2013 robotics that also needs help. Cheers. History2007 (talk) 12:18, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Block cellular automaton, Norman Margolus

• ... that block cellular automata, invented by Norman Margolus, can be used to simulate lattice gases, sand piles, and billiard-ball computers?

• Reviewed: Shloime Dachs

5x expanded and new article by David Eppstein (talk). Self nom at 22:38, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• Comment: Block cellular automaton 5x expanded, beginning on Feb 2, Norman Margolus created on Feb 3. --Pgallert (talk) 19:17, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
• Date and length verified. "Only" a grey tick because the online sources are all from Margolus, and in his scientific papers he, of course, does not claim to have invented this. The fact that they got published after peer review is an indication, however, that his findings were indeed new. Tweaked the wikilinks in the hook. --Pgallert (talk) 19:17, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks. One of the sources I was using for the "he invented this" claim, Schiff's book, is not available for preview in Google books, but the other third-party source is available. Here is the direct link, where it says (page 74) "Margolus came up with two different kinds of rules" (and the first of the two is the block automaton). —David Eppstein (talk) 00:44, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Museo Regional del Sureste de Petén

• ... that the Museo Regional del Sureste de Petén in Guatemala was built to offset damage from a highway construction project?

Created by Simon Burchell (talk). Self nom at 22:24, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: St Mary's Chapel, Arley Diff

• - Looks good. History2007 (talk) 23:52, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Google Art Project

• ... that Google's Art Project features digital versions of 17 pieces of artwork (including Botticelli's The Birth of Venus, pictured) at a resolution of 7 gigapixels?

Created by Mattgirling (talk), Evil Chris! (talk). Self nom at 19:55, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Kimmeridge Oil Field. matt (talk) 21:09, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• I am adding a pipe link to Google Art Project, for clarity, and to avoid a redirect. Otherwise, date and length are good. The hook is not sourced correctly: the 7 gigapixel assertion is sent to the Telegraph's Florence Waters but it should be sourced more generally to the Telegraph's Art News. Binksternet (talk) 12:20, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks; sourcing has now been changed. matt (talk) 01:06, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Online source supports hook. Good to go! Binksternet (talk) 03:37, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

GT-1 (missile)

• ... that the GT-1 (pictured on B-25) could deliver a torpedo up to 25 miles (40 km) from its launching aircraft?

• Reviewed: List of U.S. state reptiles

Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 23:13, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

• Imaginative use of google books snippets. All looks good.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:36, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Damnatio ad bestias

• ... that according to the Roman law, counterfeiters were thrown to wild beasts (example pictured)?

• Comment: "Anyone who scrapes gold coins, or stains them, or makes them, if he is a freeman, shall be thrown to wild beasts" (also ). Reviewed Jean Heiberg. Phrasing could surely be better (were to be thrown?). Materialscientist (talk) 12:44, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 12:44, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Hook, length is OK. DYK ready.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:10, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Legacy of Leonid Brezhnev

Leonid Brezhnev, portrait on 1977 stamp

• ... that Leonid Brezhnev's legacy was described by Mikhail Gorbachev as "an Era of Stagnation"?

Created by --TIAYN (talk) 19:22, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Good and original. I did not see a reference beside the hook information. Billy Hathorn (talk) 17:37, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Date and size both check out. Written citation accepted in good faith - but please add citation to all of the three times it's mentioned in the text - especially in the lead para.--Storye book (talk) 20:25, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

OK I did it, but TIAYN please check my edits to confirm that all is correct. Thanks.--Storye book (talk) 22:30, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Per guidelines we are not supposed to reference the lead seeing that all info in the lead must be in the main body. --TIAYN (talk) 22:34, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes I see you removed it again. Up to you, but in my experience normal practice has been to attach a citation to the hook in the lead para during DYK exposure only, and then to remove it afterwards. This is because it saves a lot of hassle from reviewers who say they can't find the citation quickly to confirm the hook. So I added the citation to the lead para to speed this article through the DYK process. --Storye book (talk) 12:07, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

And you put it back again! I think this is clear for DYK now.--Storye book (talk) 10:27, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Lufthansa Flight 592

• ... that Lufthansa Flight 592 was hijacked and flown to New York by a man who had been unable to obtain a student visa?

• ALT1:... that after Lufthansa Flight 592's hijacking, the hijacker agreed to trade his pistol for the pilot's sunglasses?
• Reviewed: Johann Heinrich Zedler

5x expanded by Mukkakukaku (talk). Self nom at 00:35, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• ALT2: ... that the pilot of Lufthansa Flight 592 persuaded solo hijacker Nebiu Zewolde Demeke to trade his pistol for the pilot's sunglasses? Clarityfiend (talk) 02:39, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Ooooh I like that one. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 15:42, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Me, too. The sunglasses trade is more interesting than failing to get a student visa. Nice article, btw. Location (talk) 15:59, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• Ditto. Good to go! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:29, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• Wow, already GA--good work. However, the article does not describe LH592 but only one flight on that route, on one particular day. Suggest a move to a different name, see the article's talk page. --Pgallert (talk) 20:04, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• I've responded on the talk page but will leave a summary here: naming conventions for aviation articles relating to accidents/incidents/occurrences are named after the flight they occurred on. Flight routes themselves are not notable, and will therefore never have their own articles (and those articles that are created are quickly WP:PRODed. The only exception is when the occurrence gains a popular name, such as Munich air disaster, or when the flight does not have a flight number, such as 2007 Sudan Airways hijacking. See WP:AVINAME. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 20:12, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• Hmm, an advice page from a Wikproject. That does not really invalidate more general principles, such as that articles should have names that give a hint to what is covered in them. As a somewhat frequent flyer, I do expect a route description under this name, not an air crash report. To say something never becomes notable is WP:CRYSTAL. I have retracted my question mark as this seems to go far beyond a DYK submission, but maybe the Wikiproject wants to discuss that. Cheers, --Pgallert (talk) 12:45, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• I'd take a fair guess that there has never been another Lufthansa Flight 592 following this incident, therefore there is no scope for confusion. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 20:06, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Actually it's fatal accidents/etc that generally don't have their route numbers reused. And having articles about flight routes really wouldn't be prudent, since the numbers, destinations, times, aircraft and so on can change on a whim. And when there are multiple incidents on the same route, we disambiguate. See, for example, American Airlines Flight 63. Either way, can I suggest this topic/conversation/argument be moved here instead, since it's not really a DYK issue? --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 20:20, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• As indicated, I retracted my question mark, so the original tick from The Bushranger is reinstated. Sorry for the delay and confusion (that flight numbers are retired once fatal accidents happen I did not know). --Pgallert (talk) 07:07, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Museum theatre

• ... that museum theatre encompasses not only first and second person interpretation, but also demonstration, storytelling, and performances?

5x expanded by Herr0183 (talk) et al. Nominated by User:HstryQT at 15:21, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Grammy Award for Producer of the Year, Classical

Nice update to the page! Missvain (talk) 17:20, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

The Mama Ayesha's Restaurant Presidential Mural

• ... that Washington D.C.'s largest postcard, The Mama Ayesha's Restaurant Presidential Mural, features 11 U.S. Presidents?

• Reviewed: Museum theatre, Oldfields

Created by Missvain (talk). Self nom at 17:30, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• Need to link the article title in the hook. ~EDDY ~ 01:37, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• Modified it :) Missvain (talk) 21:18, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• Date of creation and fact checks out. I updated the article with some references to clarify things. HstryQT (talk) 21:37, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• The bit about "largest postcard" appears only once in the article and that sentence has no footnotes. Pls add relevant refs or change the hook. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 23:11, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Added source. Missvain (talk) 00:14, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Do we accept blogs as a reliable source? Furthermore, having "the look of" a postcard doesn't mean it is a postcard. --PFHLai (talk) 00:38, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

No, blogs count as self-published sources, which are only RS if published by a journalist or a recognized professional in that field. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 09:33, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

I can see how it might not be considered, I suppose being a local in DC, and oral history isn't a valid source, of course. It's not supposed to look like a paper postcard, ha! It's just a local nickname for the piece. Missvain (talk) 21:33, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on February 3

Lysgårdsbakken

• ...that Lysgårdsbakken (pictured), the ski jumping hill for the 1994 Winter Olympics, has became the eleventh-most visited touist attraction in Norway?

5x expanded by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 00:00, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed St Michael's Church, Buslingthorpe. Arsenikk 00:03, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Cross-country skiing at the 1994 Winter Olympics – Men's 4 x 10 kilometre relay, Birkebeineren Ski Stadium

• ...that more than 100,000 spectators saw Norway lose the men's 4 x 10 km cross-country relay by 0.4 seconds to Italy at Birkebeineren Ski Stadium during the 1994 Winter Olympics?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 23:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Evacuations of civilians in Japan during World War II. Arsenikk 23:53, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Peter Maitlis

• ... that British organometallic chemist Peter Maitlis coined the term metallomesogens for "metal complexes of organic ligands which exhibit liquid crystalline (mesomorphic) character"?

Created by Qwfp (talk), EdChem (talk). Self nom at 06:18, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date verified. Hook's offline ref accepted AGF. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:37, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Jordon Saffron Taste This!

• ... that in the 2009 independent feature film Jordon Saffron Taste This!, the scenes by Steve Schirripa and Rachel Hunter were done in one take?

Created by Nicodavo (talk), MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 02:14, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1:... that for the 2009 independent feature film Jordon Saffron Taste This!, director Sergio Myers created a filmmaking style he calls "Free Flow Filmmaking"? Schmidt, 03:29, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Let's see if it passes its AFD first. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 16:03, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Allenton hippopotamus

• ... that the Allenton hippopotamus was discovered in England in 1895 and is now in Derby Museum?

Created by Victuallers (talk), Parkywiki (talk). Self nom at 16:28, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Richard Boys Victuallers (talk) 17:01, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
• Looks fine in all respects. Nice work and interesting article. –Moondyne 23:30, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Darius Morris

• ... that The Wall Street Journal calculated that Michigan Wolverines point guard Darius Morris is the most valuable college basketball player of in any major college program?

Created/expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 23:15, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: 2011 State of the Union Address--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:37, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• - length, source check. "Calculated" is exactly correct. But technically it should be "in any major college conference" rather than "of any major college program" (which is less than a fine point), but wondering why the switch?. Smallbones (talk) 04:26, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• Fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:52, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Augustus Wade Dwight

• ... that after suffering the loss of the use of an arm, Augustus Wade Dwight (pictured) returned to lead his regiment, only to die in the Battle of Fort Stedman?

Created by W Nowicki (talk). Self nom at 22:25, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• Meets DYK, length good, hook citation confirmed. Sharktopus 04:52, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Marionette (Fringe)

• ... that Fringe's executive producers compared the episode "Marionette" to a Rip Van Winkle experience?

• Reviewed: Benedict Nichols

Created by Ruby2010 talk 21:16, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

The hook is referenced in the production section. Ruby2010 talk 21:18, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Time Capsule (Parks and Recreation)

• ... that Saturday Night Live comedian Will Forte played a man obsessed with the Twilight series in "Time Capsule", an episode of the NBC comedy series Parks and Recreation?

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Guerillero (talk) at 06:03, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Note: I've reviewed Kildare Street Club. — Hunter Kahn 06:59, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Because this was already nominated I combined the two nominations together. --Guerillero | My Talk 15:31, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Jeanne Galzy

• ... that French author Jeanne Galzy (1883-1977) is credited as "one of the pioneers in the writing of lesbian desire and despair"?

Created by LadyofShalott (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 23:50, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• Only a few edits ago, on this very page, I said I preferred paraphrase in DYK hooks...but I don't rightly know how to paraphrase this very strong phrase. Drmies (talk) 23:51, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

ALT1= ... that French author Jeanne Galzy (1883-1977) was a pioneer in lesbian fiction of desire and despair?

Size and hook seem fine. Posible paraphrase above. Just removing the quote marks might also be appropriate, since the person saying it is not notable enough to have her own article yet. In my time zone it was created February 2, but still nominated in time. A few minor style issues, but these should be doable. Several paragraphs lack citations, so those at least need to be fixed before passing. W Nowicki (talk) 19:18, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Nowicki, for putting your finger on the sore spot. Please see the article now. Allow me to tweak your tweaked hook:

ALT2= ... that French author Jeanne Galzy (1883-1977) pioneered the writing of lesbian desire and despair?

Short and sweet; I hope you like it. Drmies (talk) 00:55, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Pacific Salmon Commission

• ... that the early efforts of the precursor to the Pacific Salmon Commission including dynamiting dams?

• Reviewed: Twist of Shadows (located at Jan.26)

Created by The Interior (talk). Self nom at 22:53, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good on length, date, sources, tagline etc. Could use expansion. Aymatth2 (talk) 01:17, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• Working on it, cheers. The Interior (Talk) 01:27, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Potomac Curling Club

• ... that the grant allowing the Potomac Curling Club to open its home in 2002 became the subject of an attack ad in Maryland?

Created by GormtheDBA (talk). Self nom at 15:45, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• Hook, length OK. DYK ready.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:37, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Léon Lemartin

Léon Lemartin breaking the world record with 8 passengers

• ... that Léon Lemartin was a pioneer aviator who set a world record when he took seven passengers in a Blériot XIII Aerobus (pictured)? 5x expanded by Chienlit (talk). Self nom at 13:00, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Pontyclun railway station

• The two references support a record for seven only. A handwritten postcard claims eight, but that is insufficient. There are also other references problems. Those for Jacques de Lesseps, Jeanne Herveux and Paul Wyss do not refer to Lemartin at all. Also, there's a rule that each paragraph has to have at least one reference, and several don't. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:53, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• Fixed hook and article. Removed unsourced claims from hook (deleted 8, 11 and 13), caveated and rephrased them in the article. Also reworked the mentions of Lesseps Herveux and Wyss to match the references. Chienlit (talk) 09:19, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
• Now added ref for additional passengers to the article. Chienlit (talk) 11:19, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• If the person was known as Léon Lemartin, the article should be moved. If it stays where it is, you'd need to adjust the hook to avoid the redirect. I've amended the hook for formatting (italicised pictured; removed redundant spaces within wikilinks). Schwede66 19:58, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• I logged exactly that request (to move TLM to LL) with my favourite friendly admin several days ago, but she may be on a short break. If any other admin cares to usurp such a tempting opportunity for fame and glory and make it so then so be it... the wrath or thanks of Maedin will be heaped on their shoulders. Chienlit (talk) 22:24, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
• Article moved by Maedin as per to move TLM to LL Chienlit (talk) 16:57, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• One last issue: the references for the last paragraph of the Gnome years section have no connection to this article as far as I can see. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:29, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Zamfir Arbore

• ... that Zamfir Arbore went from being a figure in Russian anarchism and a close associate of Mikhail Bakunin to serving two terms in the Senate of Romania? Created by Dahn (talk). Self nom at 12:44, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Gary Fanelli (diff)

• Date and (to be sure!) length verified. Online reference checked, and offline references accepted on good faith. - Biruitorul 05:08, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Odell Pollard

• ... that in 1967 Arkansas Republican chairman Odell Pollard reported that his state ranked second highest nationally in the percent of African Americans serving on draft boards?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 01:51, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Richard Boys

• Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 22:43, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Pontyclun railway station

• ... that Pontyclun railway station, previously called Llantrisant (pictured), was originally two separate railway stations that were later merged into one?

5x expanded by redrose64 (talk · contribs), Daicaregos (talk · contribs), Ioliver2 (talk · contribs). Nominated by Simply south (talk) at 00:13, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Length, refs and hook are good Chienlit (talk) 13:20, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Richard Boys

• ... that the Reverend Richard Boys was responsible for the moral upkeep of Hudson Lowe and his men who guarded Napoleon I during the exile on Saint Helena?

Created by Danno uk (talk). Self nom at 22:40, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Interesting and original. The hook, however, is not that specific in the article but implied??? Billy Hathorn (talk) 02:03, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

- the accounts of his moral outrage make his role there clear. Nice article Victuallers (talk) 16:59, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Herbert Whitfield

• ... that Sussex cricket captain Herbert Whitfield also played international football for England?

Created by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk). Self nom at 21:34, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed St Michael the Archangel's Church, Booton

• Correct length and history, with ample sources. Good to go! Ruby2010 talk 06:52, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

St Mary's Chapel, Arley

• ... that although Arley Hall, Cheshire, was in Jacobean style, its owner decided that its chapel should be in Gothic style?

• Reviewed: Tarik O'Regan: Threshold of Night, Conspirare

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 20:37, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• Size & date OK. AGF on offline ref. Simon Burchell (talk) 22:29, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

William Matthew Scott

• ... that children's writer Will Scott (pictured), author of The Cherrys series, wrote 2,000 short stories for adults?

Created by Storye book (talk). Self nom at 20:16, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Legacy of Leonid Brezhnev.--Storye book (talk) 20:26, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
• It is ready. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 22:32, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

John H. Eastman

• ... that John H. Eastman, the mayor of Shreveport, Louisiana from 1910 to 1914, made his living as a tinsmith?

Created/expanded by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 17:50, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• Creation date and hook are good. However, the article is only 1435 characters long. I also think the wording is a little too close to the source's. - PM800 (talk) 19:54, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't know how to measure characters. It is 274 words long or 4,800 bytes. There is only the one source available. Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:21, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• If you don't know how to measure characters, then you should probably learn how. Check the DYK rules page. As for the "one source available" problem, the article is currently too short, so another source with additional information will have to be found from somewhere, I suppose. - PM800 (talk) 02:50, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

It is now 1,751 characters, according to the measurement: http://www.javascriptkit.com/script/script2/charcount.shtml Billy Hathorn (talk) 05:55, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• Yes, it's long enough now. A few parts need citations, so just take care of that and it should be OK. - PM800 (talk) 06:51, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• OK. - PM800 (talk) 17:44, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

St Michael the Archangel's Church, Booton

• ... that the Grade II* listed St Michael the Archangel's Church, Booton, Norfolk, (west front pictured) was designed by its rector who had no training in architecture?

• ALT1:... that St Michael the Archangel's Church, Booton, Norfolk, (west front pictured) is often known as the "Cathedral of the Fields"
• Reviewed: Tony Macedo

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:20, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• Hook, references, length and date of creation all check out. Picture is licenced Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0. FWIW, I prefer ALT1. (A hook about his "Blessed Girls" would be fun, in the spirit of the church – "very naughty but ... in the right spirit".) -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 21:16, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Gary Fanelli

• ... that Gary Fanelli, who represented American Samoa in the marathon at the 1988 Summer Olympics, has competed in various costumes including Elwood Blues, a Ghostbusters ghost, and Michael Jackson?

Created by Location (talk). Self nom at 06:55, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Chair (sculpture) and Mainstream (Lloyd Cole album). -Location (talk) 06:55, 3 February 2011 (UTC) last edited 05:50, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
• ALT1: that Gary Fanelli, who set an American Samoan national record in the marathon at the 1988 Summer Olympics, has competed in various costumes including Elwood Blues, a Ghostbusters ghost, and Michael Jackson? (I think this is six characters too long, so "Summer" or "various" could be stricken if needed.) -Location (talk) 07:27, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Date, length, refs all fine. I don't know which hook is preferable, nor have I checked if one is too long, but in any instance they are both backed by sources. Nice entry. Dahn (talk) 12:28, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Sewell Ministry, 1856

• ... that the Sewell Ministry, led by Henry Sewell (pictured), was the first responsible government of New Zealand?

• Reviewed: Art of Azerbaijani ashiqs (diff from 26 Jan)
• Comment: This article had been in my userspace for a long time. It got moved on 3 Feb (NZ time).

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 02:49, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Age, length, references all check out. Ready to go. Moonraker2 (talk) 07:59, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Chair (sculpture)

• ... that a woman lived 42 days on the former world's largest chair in 1960?

Created by Missvain (talk). Self nom at 02:44, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• Age, length, and hook all verified. Interesting article! The women was a model, so I'm wondering if it might capture more readers to note that fact. Location (talk) 07:09, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

1. Nom with image:

Our Lady of Vilnius Church (New York City)

• ... that Lithuanian president Valdas Adamkus, petitioned Pope Benedict XVI in person in April 2007 to save Our Lady of Vilnius Church from closure and demolition, to no avail?

Created/expanded by James Russiello (talk). Self nom at 16:30, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• looks fine to me.Petergans (talk) 19:43, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• The article (about the church) is not mentioned in the hook. -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 06:49, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• Modified the hook. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 07:08, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• This looks good to me.---James R (talk) 5 Feb 2011

Articles created/expanded on February 4

Christine Weidinger

• ... that Christine Weidinger returned to the Metropolitan Opera after 16 years to appear as Semiramis, the title role of Rossini's Semiramide?

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 16:41, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Good to go. Jaespinoza (talk) 23:51, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Concerto for Oboe and Small Orchestra (Martinů)

• ... that Bohuslav Martinů's Concerto for Oboe and Small Orchestra was first performed in the United Kingdom by oboist Evelyn Rothwell at The Proms?

Created by JackofOz (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 16:18, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Vetka, Sozh

• ... …that Vetka, (church in town pictured) on the left bank of the Sozh River, in Belarus, is located in an area which was highly radioactive due to the nuclear fallout of the Chernobyl disaster on April 26, 1986?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 08:31, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Comment:Double articles hook. Sozh was expanded in User page and moved to main space on 6 February 2011.

• Reviewed Horse racing in Wales--Nvvchar. 08:54, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Anatolius (curator), 557 Constantinople earthquake

• ... that according to Agathias, Anatolius, killed in his bed by a falling piece of decorative marble shaken off the wall, was the only high-ranking Byzantine official to die in the 557 Constantinople earthquake?

Created by Dimadick (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 02:31, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1:... that the only high-ranking Byzantine official to die in the 557 Constantinople earthquake was a curator and honorary consul killed by a piece of decorative marble?

--Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 16:14, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Auchincruive

• ... that Oswald Hall (pictured), former residence of Richard Oswald, the British representative at the 1783 Peace of Paris after the American War of Independence, became a teaching farm in the 20th century?

Created by Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 02:11, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Schmidt,

• Well-written, nicely-illustrated article, and mostly well-referenced. The image is relevant, included in the article, and CC-licensed. However, some of the hook facts (those relating to Oswald's career) lack a reference. I have tagged the relevant sentences in the article.
  Also, the hook is too long: 202 characters is over the limit. Please suggest a shorter hook. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:10, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

NECA Project

• ... that the Socialite application of the NECA Project allowed "face to face", emotion-based interactions between animated agents on the internet?

Created by History2007 (talk). Self nom at 02:46, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: January 31–February 2, 2011 North American winter storm

Arnold Cook

• ... that in 1950, Arnold Cook was the first person to bring a guide dog to Australia?

Created by Moondyne (talk). Self nom at 02:46, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Could you please let us know which article you have reviewed, or whether that's still to happen? Schwede66 19:54, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• I suspect Moondyne may not know about the new rule, so have dropped them a note. SmartSE (talk) 21:27, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Suspicion confirmed ;) Reviewed Allenton hippopotamus. –Moondyne 23:32, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Me and Juliet

• ... that while performing in Rodgers and Hammerstein's Me and Juliet, actress Joan McCracken got pregnant, lost her child to a miscarriage, and lost her husband, Bob Fosse, to another woman?

5x expanded by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 02:01, 6 February 2011 (UTC) I reviewed Jocotitlán--Wehwalt (talk) 02:37, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Nice article. Expansion verified, hook verified, minor copyedits applied. Good to go. Drmies (talk) 22:11, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Irk Bitig

• ... that the Irk Bitig (Book of Omens) (pictured) is the only known complete manuscript text written in the Old Turkic script?

• Reviewed: Ashley Library, Thomas James Wise

Created by BabelStone (talk). Self nom at 23:35, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• Date and article length are OK. The reference supporting the hook is available on Google Books. Is it possible to replace the special characters in the lead with a PNG or SVG image? Most computer browsers do not support Old Turkic script, and the article does not currently indicate where such a font can be downloaded. --BomBom (talk) 17:49, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• It would of course be possible to use images in place of characters, but in my opinion that would not be a good idea. Using characters rather than images allows search engines to find the quoted Old Turkic text, for example this google search finds the Misplaced Pages article on Irk Bitig, whereas images of characters are not searchable. Moreover, for anyone who cannot read Old Turkic, images of the characters are likely to be no more helpful than little square boxes; but on the other hand, anyone who can read Old Turkic is likely to have a Unicode Old Turkic font installed. However, I have changed the link to "Old Turkic" prefixing the Old Turkic text to Template:OldTurkicUnicode/doc which provides links to download sites for Unicode Old Turkic fonts. BabelStone (talk) 19:21, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Good to go. Fascinating article, minor copyedits. Drmies (talk) 22:17, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Do Shapeshifters Dream of Electric Sheep?

• ... that the Fringe episode title "Do Shapeshifters Dream of Electric Sheep?" refers to a novel that was later adapted into the film Blade Runner?

Created by Ruby2010 talk 21:22, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Hook is cited in the cultural references section. Ruby2010 talk 21:22, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Otto Redlich. Ruby2010 talk 21:38, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go. One of the quotes was a little long to qualify as fair-use (in my opinion), so I trimmed it a bit, but other than that everything checked out fine. 28bytes (talk) 06:57, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

14th Test Squadron

• ... that the United States Air Force's 14th Test Squadron (pictured) was originally activated during the Cold War as the 14th Missile Warning Squadron and assigned to operate radar sites around the United States?

14thTS Created by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 03:34, 5 February 2011 (UTC) 14thMWS Created by Orygun (talk). Nominated by Jsayre64 (talk) at 03:37, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• I've taken the liberty of merging this with the 14th MWS hook, as nominated by Jsayre64 here, to make/restore a double hook. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:50, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Cross de San Sebastián

• ... that since the 1990s, the Cross de San Sebastián has been dominated by runners of East African origin?

Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Nominated by Pepper (talk) at 01:26, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Aras Dam

• Just barely reaches size requirements, but with the table and pictures, I'm happy with the overall size. C628 (talk) 21:10, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

1906 French Grand Prix

• ... that British manufacturers refused to enter the first Grand Prix (winner Ferenc Szisz pictured) because they suspected the French organisers were using it as propaganda for their automobile industry?

• Reviewed: ASM-A-1 Tarzon

5x expanded by Apterygial (talk). Self nom at 00:12, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go. Nice expansion. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 12:34, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

ASM-A-1 Tarzon

• ... that the United States Air Force enlisted Tarzon to destroy North Korean bridges?

• Reviewed: Zahra Bahrami
• Comment: There is a free-use pic in the article, but its use would make the hook less quirky since it would negate the "Tarzon/Tarzan" joke...

Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 23:41, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• Article checks out, as do sources. The Tarzon/Tarzan pun is a little shaky (I had to read it a couple of times) but no real problem. Apterygial 00:21, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Bryant W. Bailey

• ... that Bryant W. Bailey, the only Populist delegate to the Louisiana Constitutional Convention of 1898, voted against the document, which contained the discriminatory grandfather clause?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 23:07, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed New Georgia, Liberia.

• Size and date OK. I have two problems with the hook. First, I see a source that Bailey refused to sign the document, I don't see a source that there was a vote or that he voted against. Second, I don't see a source saying that the reason for this declining to sign was the grandfather clause. Perhaps you can point me. --Muhandes (talk) 19:56, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Two sources: one says, the Constitution contained the grandfather clause. Another says, Bailey was the only delegate to vote against the Constituition. That second source does not say the grandfather clause was the reason for his vote. So I adjusted the hook in case there was another reason for his vote. Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:14, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Still, none of the sources, not even the article itself, say anything about a vote or him voting against anything. All they say is that he refused to sign. I'm sorry if this seems a bit pedant but I think DYK should stick to sources. --Muhandes (talk) 06:55, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

LifeSpring Hospitals

• ... that LifeSpring Hospitals, an Indian hospital chain that provides care to low income patients in Hyderabad, was the first health care company to join the UN's Business Call to Action?

--BabbaQ (talk) 13:28, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

I made a few tweaks to phrasing and layout in the article. I think the hook is a bit dry though. How about

• ... that LifeSpring Hospitals, an Indian hospital chain that provides care to low income patients in Hyderabad, was the first health care company to join the UN's Business Call to Action?

--Robth 22:05, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Good alternative.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:08, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

I've slotted it in above, and this should be good to go. --Robth 03:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Petra (sculpture)

• ... that Petra, a sculpture of a urinating policewoman, received a German art award in 2011?

Created by Sandstein (talk). Self nom at 13:12, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Template_talk:Did_you_know#Rich_Representation_Language.  Sandstein  13:21, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• Sandstein, thanks--that was fascinating. Drmies (talk) 20:05, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Maybe not the most tasteful of subjects (!), but DYK criteria met OK. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 17:07, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

1947 BOAC Douglas C-47 crash

• ... that Tom Horabin MP survived the crash of a BOAC Dakota in January 1947?

Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 12:36, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed Bruce Jackson (audio engineer) Mjroots (talk) 12:45, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK criteria met; offline source accepted IGF. But is the date of publication of the relevant ref correct? It says January 2011; should it not be 1947? Otherwise all OK for DYK. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 12:37, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• 2011 changed to 1947 in ref. Mjroots (talk) 13:24, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Comment -- should MP be offset by commas in the hook? ex. ... that Tom Horabin,MP, survived...."? --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 17:43, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

No. "MP" is treated for all intents and purposes as part of his name - same with "VC" for Victoria Cross winners, OBE for Order of the British Empire, and so on. The British never offset them. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 18:17, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Art of Urartu, economy of Urartu

• ... that the economy and art of Urartu (example pictured) flourished in the 8th century BC only to fall a century later?

• Comment: See Materialscientist (talk) 12:01, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Created by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 12:01, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• Scientist, can I be picky? In the Art article, for instance, I see that footnotes 4 and 6 have periods but the others have not. Do you care to give it some thought? BTW, those articles are great--thanks. Drmies (talk) 18:32, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• I'm doing these one at a time: for Art of Urartu (interesting and well-organized, hook verified). Drmies (talk) 18:46, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
• for Economy of Urartu as well, but I'd like to go over it in some detail before it goes to the front page (I'll do that today/tonight). Scientist, let me know of your punctuation ponderings please. In the meantime, thanks for unlocking a culture I didn't even know existed. (Did you make all of it up? If so, good job!) Drmies (talk) 18:48, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• I'm done with my minor edits. Next step, after the front page, GA? If so, punctuation (in citations and image captions) will need another look. Drmies (talk) 19:49, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• That hook is a bit ungrammatical. Am not! Urartu! How about "... that the economy and art of Urartu (example pictured) flourished around 8th century BC, only for the state to fall a century later?

Thanks for the copyedits! These were quick, reworked translations of FAs from ru.wiki (I even forgot to rewrite a few sentences :-). I stopped GA nominating long ago. References are mostly Russian, old and offline, I have no clear preference for their formatting. Yes, my hook is shaky and comments/rewrites are welcome. ALT1 somewhat detracts from the topic. How about ALT2

• ... that the economy and art of Urartu (example pictured) flourished in the 8th century BC only to decline a century later? Materialscientist (talk) 00:31, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Given the sources, can we say "in" instead of "around"? (I also threw an article into your hook.) Drmies (talk) 00:37, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

"In" is fine, replaced. Materialscientist (talk) 23:36, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Tin-silver-copper. Materialscientist (talk) 23:00, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Drmies (talk)

Kildare Street Club

• ... that Dublin's former Kildare Street Club is adorned by whimsical beasts, such as monkeys playing billiards (pictured)?

• Reviewed: Sewell Ministry, 1856

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 08:11, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length and refs verified. I'd suggest changing the hook so only the word "pictured" is in parentheses (so it would read, for example, "is adorned by whimsical beasts, such as monkeys playing billiards (pictured)?"). Other than that, though, cool article. — Hunter Kahn 06:55, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

That's a good suggestion, thanks, I've edited it in. Moonraker2 (talk) 16:35, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

MXR Dyna Comp

• ... that the MXR Dyna Comp, a guitar effect, is favored especially by Nashville guitar players and other chicken pickers?

5x expanded by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 02:46, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• Vetted JB-4, below. Drmies (talk) 03:15, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• The expansion is just short of fivefold (by 34 bytes), so that's fine. I've removed the stub tag from the article, as we don't promote stubs on DYK. The expansion was done on time. I've amended the hook by inserting a pipe to Nashville, Tennessee. I suppose the hook fact is in the Michael Ross source, and I can confirm the Nashville part, but couldn't see anything about chicken pickers. Can you please clarify where that is referenced? Schwede66 19:44, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
  • I added a note for that reference; it's in here. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 20:00, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go then. Schwede66 18:09, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

JB-4

• ... that the JB-4 missile (pictured) was guided via television?

• Reviewed: Lufthansa Flight 592

Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 02:32, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• Nice article, hook verified, but I have one question, and I'd like another editor (or a few) to weigh in: Is this a reliable source? In my opinion everything hinges on that. Drmies (talk) 02:50, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

That's been questioned before. According to the folks at MILHIST, it is - it cites its sources clearly, and has never been questioned by reviewers when it's been used heavily, even in GA reviews. The consensus at WP:MILHIST is that it's reliable. - - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:56, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

If you could point me that way, or if some of those editors could weigh in, we can settle this very quickly. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 03:25, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

It was queried as part of a set here; nobody weighed in against it. I also used it heavily in this article, which passed GAR here without any sourcing concern; this GA used it even more extensively, again without concern . :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:32, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Ah, found it. This was also queried at DYK before, too. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 09:26, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm not going to object, but I would like for a seasoned DYK editor to OK it. Drmies (talk) 17:54, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

I've used that site before after finding out Andreas Parsch is a recognized weapons expert, meaning it passes WP:SPS. See and the accompanying quotes, like "Andreas Parsch, a recognized expert on weapons designations, ..." Ed  18:29, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

<-- Well, alright then. Drmies (talk) 06:04, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 5

Sylvester H. Roper, Roper steam velocipede

• ... that Sylvester H. Roper's steam velocipede of 1867–1869 is one of three candidates for the title of first motorcycle?

• Reviewed: Lester S. Willson
• Comment: Dbratland created Sylvester H. Roper. Both authors worked on Roper steam velocipede.

Created by Dbratland (talk), Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Self nom at 02:50, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Utrecht Te Deum and Jubilate

• ... that Handel (pictured) wrote Utrecht Te Deum and Jubilate on English texts to celebrate the Peace of Utrecht in St Paul's in 1713?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 23:30, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed: #Museo Regional de Arqueología de la Democracia, Escuintla

2010 ACC Championship Game

• ... that by winning the 2010 ACC Championship Game, the Virginia Tech Hokies became the first team in college football history to win 11 consecutive games in one season after losing their first two?

5x expanded by JKBrooks85 (talk). Self nom at 11:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• Not a 5x expansion. Short ~5,000 characters. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 17:40, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Anatolius (Osroene)

• ... that Anatolius, a 6th-century Byzantine official accused of being a crypto-pagan, was tortured, thrown to the "wild beasts" of the Hippodrome of Constantinople, and then crucified?

Created by Dimadick (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 01:26, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• Confirmed length and citation. Grim stuff. JKBrooks85 (talk) 11:47, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• I hope no one minds: I removed a word ("afterward") from the hook, which struck me as redundant ("and then crucified afterward"). Also made minor copyedits in article. Drmies (talk) 21:11, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Night of the Blood Beast

• ... that the monster costume in the Roger Corman-produced horror film Night of the Blood Beast is the same exact one used in the film Teenage Cave Man?

5x expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 21:39, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Diadectidae — Hunter Kahn 21:40, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Five-fold expansion, date and hook sourcing have been verified. Cbl62 (talk) 22:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Interstate 81 in West Virginia and U.S. Route 11 in West Virginia

• ... that both Interstate 81 and U.S. Route 11 in West Virginia roughly follow the Warrior Path, an old indian trail through the Eastern Panhandle region?

• Reviewed: Ham Hill Hillfort
• Comment: Giving Imzadi1979 nominator credit as he helped me find a hook. --AdmrBoltz 15:47, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

I-81: 5x expanded by Admrboltz (talk). Nominated by Imzadi1979 (talk) at 15:47, 6 February 2011 (UTC) US 11: Created by Admrboltz (talk). Nominated by Imzadi1979 (talk) at 15:47, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Perhaps say the I-81 in West Virginia roughly follows the Warrior Path, (or West Virginia's portion of I-81) as all of I-81 does not, but other than that, it's good to go. ••pepper 20:13, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Hook tweaked. --AdmrBoltz 20:18, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Converted to a double hook. New article reviewed: Aboriginal title in New York.. --AdmrBoltz 22:46, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
    • Great work. ••pepper 11:19, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
      • May want to consider a reword to Native American to avoid any squawking about political correctness. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 16:17, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Hellenic Nomarchy

• ... that the anonymous Greek author of Hellenic Nomarchy, written in 1806, dedicates his work to the activist Rigas Ferraios (pictured)?

Self nom at 14:21, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Oliver Lewis (violinist)

• Article length is fine. Reference for hook is good & pic is public domain licensed. Good to go.— Rod 15:02, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Domaine Coche-Dury

• ... that Domaine Coche-Dury suffered damage to its Grand cru vineyard Corton-Charlemagne vines after a helicopter crashed into them?

• Reviewed: Boushey Vineyard - Diff

Created by Camw (talk). Self nom at 03:28, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Length and date correct. Offline cite accepted in good faith. FruitMonkey (talk) 11:53, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Roy John (rugby player)

• ... that Wales rugby union international Roy John could leap over four feet from a standing start?

• Reviewed: Domaine Coche-Dury

5x expanded by FruitMonkey (talk). Self nom at 23:09, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• Is the four feet statistic a calculation between John's height (needs citation, but is given in ref#3) and reaching the crossbar (already cited)? If so, I think the hook should be reworded – I assumed that he could jump 4' horizontally from standing. Suggest alt:

ALT1: ... that from a standing start, Wales rugby union international Roy John could jump up and reach the crossbar set at 3.2 metres (10 ft 6 in) above the ground? matt (talk) 01:27, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Correct on all accounts, I'm more than happy with the alternative hook. FruitMonkey (talk) 11:57, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Baco Blanc

• ... that until the late 1970s, the hybrid grape Baco Blanc was the primary grape behind the French brandy of Armagnac (pictured)?

• Reviewed: Earnest Elmo Calkins
• Comment: Primary refs in lead with Jancis Robinson's grape book (FN#2) and Oz Clarke's (FN#3)

5x expanded by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 22:57, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• Verified 5x expansion, image license suitability and hook length. AGF on the offline sources. Camw (talk) 03:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Tom Churchill (athlete)

• ... that in addition to being named an All-American in both football and basketball at the University of Oklahoma, Tom Churchill finished fifth in the decathlon at the 1928 Summer Olympics?

• Reviewed: Cheonghae Unit

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 21:38, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• Date and length check out, but the part about him being a football All-American lacks an inline citation. You could argue that this is covered by the last sentence of the Oklahoma section, but it doesn't make clear what two sports (he did play baseball, and the main source of the article implies he was actually an All-American in three sports). I think it's worth having another cite in the appropriate place. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 22:53, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• No, it doesn't lack an inline citation. The sentence "Playing defensive end, and occasionally running back, he was honored as an all-conference performer and was also named an All-American." has a reference, which explicitly states "In football, Churchill lettered in '27, '28, and '29 as an end, but also played tackle and running back when needed. He received All-American honors in 1929, and played in the East-West Shrine Game.". Jrcla2 (talk) 23:05, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• You are correct; the basketball-related sentence is uncited, not the football sentence. My mistake. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 01:03, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• I added a ref for the basketball portion of the hook. Jrcla2 (talk) 01:52, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• The reference was to the year after he was named a basketball All-American, but I've changed it to the correct year for you. Looks good to go now. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 16:12, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Tradition

• ... that scholars estimate that it takes two or three generations for a tradition to emerge?

5x expanded by Piotrus (talk), Sadads (talk), Ragesoss (talk), and Guerillero (talk) and others. Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 20:53, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• A collaboration work by Misplaced Pages:Ambassadors. Multiple authors (although the template displays only three). Should fit 5x expansion particularly as a lot of older, unreferenced content was (re)moved.
• Reviewed Montague James Mathew. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 20:53, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• Haven't copyedited the entire article yet (get on it, Sadads!), but the hook is verified and I think the article is good to go. Drmies (talk) 21:07, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• I'm thinking that the hook should say either "a tradition" or "traditions". I've gone ahead and changed it to "a tradition", feel free to play around with it as necessary. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 21:11, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Sorry to be a spoil sport (again), but 3510 > 13098 isn't a 5x expansion. SmartSE (talk) 21:29, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Prose size (text only): 15 kB (2273 words) "readable prose size" <- is what I see --Guerillero | My Talk 23:07, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

We split away Traditionalism (religion) from the original article, if you remove those 250 words (which is an independent article and should have been from the start), you start with 474 words and end with 2458 words that is a more than 5 times expansion. That is still a go. Sadads (talk) 23:28, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Montague James Mathew

• ... that when confused with Mathew Montagu, the taller Montague Mathew (pictured) claimed "there was as great a difference between them as between a horse chesnut and a chesnut horse"?

• Reviewed: St Nicholas' Church, Buckenham

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 18:54, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• Size, data, hook check out. Good to go! --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 20:46, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

John DeStefano

• ... that in 1933, two former Boston mayors and two local businessmen bought materials for art student John DeStefano to create a bronze bas relief portrait of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt and paid for him to travel to the White House to personally present it to the President?

5x expanded by GabrielF (talk). Self nom at 17:54, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

:Hook is too long to hold reader's continuity.

There is no personal box. The article is still listed as stub. Good selection of topic, but I think it needs a little more work. Billy Hathorn (talk) 16:42, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Infobox is not a DYK requirement, stub templates are generally removed when an article is accepted for DYK. The article is just barely long enough, but Billy Hawthorn is right, the hook is much too long. Consider these alts instead:

ALT1:... that art student John DeStefano created the cast bronze bas-relief portrait of Franklin Delano Roosevelt that hangs in the White House Roosevelt Room?

ALT2:... that artist John DeStefano spent sixty years creating mannequins after deciding that he could not support his family with his art?

--Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 11:27, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

St Nicholas' Church, Buckenham

• ... that in the tower of St Nicholas' Church, Buckenham, Norfolk, (pictured) is a dovecote lined with brick nesting boxes?

• Reviewed: Petra

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 17:13, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

All checks out. Moonraker2 (talk) 18:53, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Akodon spegazzinii

• ... that because the rodent Akodon spegazzinii is so variable, several populations have been named as separate species?

• Reviewed: Acromis spinifex
• Comment: See Jayat et al. (2010, pp. 31–32).

5x expanded by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 15:14, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go. Smokeybjb (talk) 19:51, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

St Botolph's Church, Skidbrooke

• ... that there have been reports of ghosts, and of activity by satanists, in St Botolph's Church, Skidbrooke, Lincolnshire (pictured)?

• Reviewed: 1947 BOAC Douglas C-47 crash

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 12:42, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

All checks out, ready to go. Moonraker2 (talk) 16:27, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Acromis spinifex

• ... that Acromis spinifex is one of the few tortoise beetles to show maternal care of its young?

• Reviewed: Dociostaurus maroccanus ()

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 07:46, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• All looking good. Ucucha 15:08, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Mainstream (Lloyd Cole album)

• ... that the song "Mr. Malcontent" on the Lloyd Cole and the Commotions album Mainstream is based on the character played by Daniel Day-Lewis in My Beautiful Laundrette?

• ALT1:... that the track "Hey Rusty" on the Lloyd Cole and the Commotions album Mainstream was produced by Stewart Copeland of The Police?
• Reviewed: Caryobruchus gleditsiae

Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 05:30, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• I was walking my bag and I saw that this was posted here. Age, length, and hook all verified; my preference is for the first hook. Great work on a great album! Location (talk) 05:46, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Cleveland commuter rail

• ... that since the discontinuation of commuter rail in Cleveland, Ohio, there have been at least three proposals for restoring service, but none have progressed beyond studies?

• Reviewed: Cross de San Sebastián

Created by C628 (talk). Self nom at 21:17, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• length, sources, age and hook check out. --Guerillero | My Talk 21:38, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 6

St Albans by-election, 1904

• ... that the St Albans by-election in 1904 was triggered by the sale to the Admiralty of two battleships which had been built for the Chilean Navy?

• ALT1:... that during the St Albans by-election in 1904, the Liberal MP David Lloyd George left the city splattered with eggs?
• ALT2:... that the St Albans by-election in 1904 was the only occasion when a Liberal candidate won the seat since its creation in 1885?

Created by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Self nom at 00:37, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Auchincruive (Diff)

Museo Regional de Arqueología de la Democracia, Escuintla

• ... that the Museo Regional de Arqueología in La Democracia, Guatemala, was founded to house artefacts collected from the local cotton plantations?

Created by Simon Burchell (talk). Self nom at 19:19, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Sodom Schoolhouse (Diff)

good collection, offline source AGF, article name bolded, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:41, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Michael Carr (Lib Dem politician)

• ... that in Michael Carr's successful by-election campaign, he issued a leaflet mentioning 26 times that he was local to the constituency?

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Sam Blacketer (talk). Self nom at 14:58, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: MacHomer
• Comment: The hook is from a 20 year old article in The Guardian. You can't directly access the electronic archive of the paper without a subscription but you are allowed one free article view per day: so if you go here and type in the article title 'Heavy Conservative defections in Ribble Valley', you will get one hit which will be the right article. The reference is in the fourth column. Sam Blacketer (talk) 14:58, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Len de l'El

• ... that to keep the French wine grape Len de l'El (pictured) from fading into obscurity, Gaillac wine growers used wine laws to dictate a minimum usage of the grape for all white Gaillac blends?

• Reviewed: John Mohammed Butt
• Comment: Primary ref's Robinson's grape guide (FN#4)

5x expanded by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 07:17, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Expansion and fact confirmed. Savidan 19:23, 7 February 2011 (UTC)