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back and forth editing

Night w, please use the Talk:Foreign relations of the Palestinian National Authority and Talk:State of Palestine - many of the sections on both places "wait" for your input.

On both articles you don't agree with some of my changes and I don't agree with some of your changes; if you insist you can revert to a version with NEITHER, not to a version with your changes that I don't agree. Such versions are for Foreign relations - (see my 13:20, 10 February 2011 comment at the talk page there) and for SoP - (Or some version before that - such that doesn't include neither your nor mine changes that the other side doesn't agree with).

Reverting to those versions will not be the best solution (as they have some imperfections that we both agree that should be corrected) - but we don't have another option if you continue to refuse to discuss at the talk pages. Alinor (talk) 15:44, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Your hand-picked "stable versions" are from weeks ago. Disagreements on style and content should not warrant reverting to outdated revisions in such time-sensitive topics. Protocol dictates that it be the last stable version. There was plenty of time (almost a week) for you to raise objections you had in either case. Discuss the changes you wish to make on the talk page. If you have an objection with the current version, raise it on the talk page. Nightw 15:56, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

All subsequent versions are not "stable" - they are back and forth edits between you and me. Your changes that I don't agree with are these changes that are reverted in "my" versions (I adopt these of your changes that I agree with). And the talk page is full of discussions, I even listed most (maybe all) of the not-in-agreement changes one-by-one in some of my comments. Almost a week? You mean that the time I refrained from reverting your changes, because I was waiting for you to comment on the talk page on the numerous still open issues?

the last stable versions are these that I list - I object to your subsequent edits (those of them that aren't adopted in the subsequent versions that I made) and you object to some (or all) of my subsequent edits.

Time sensitivity is irrelevant - the stable version can (and will, if we don't reach consensus) be restored - and time sensitive changes can be implemented over the last stable version without the unrelated your and mine edits. For example - Suriname news can be reflected without re-arranging the "bilateral relations" first two paragraphs and without your newly added Uruguay and OIC notes, etc. Alinor (talk) 19:49, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

1RR

You violated 1RR on Foreign relations of the Palestinian National Authority today.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 22:09, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Request for arbitration enforcement

Hello - I am an uninvolved user in the whole Israeli-Palestine editing conflict, but saw your 1RR violation and have made note of it here at the requests for arbitration enforcement page. Just letting you know! Thanks, Arctic Night 23:17, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Responded there. Nightw 08:15, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

@User:Arctic Night: I recommend that you take back your appeal. User:Nightw should be forgiven, due to the following 3 reasons:

1. User:Nightw didn't do that on purpose, and was not aware of the 1RR, as they have declared.
2. The edit page of the article being discussed, does not warn editors not aware of the 1RR - which is not a universal rule - i.e. not applied in most of the articles on Misplaced Pages. Notice that the edit page of other articles (e.g. State of Palestine) in which the 1RR is applied, does warn any editor opening the edit page.
3. The very fact that User:Nightw has never violated a very similar rule, namely the 3RR (which is better-known due to its universality - i.e its applicability in all articles of Misplaced Pages), proves that User:Nightw does wish to observe Misplaced Pages rules, including rules relating to legal reverts.

@User:Nightw: Since I'm heavily involved, I wouldn't like to respond on the page where your case is being discussed, however you're allowed to take my recommendation and to point it out on that page, by linking to your talk page (I couldn't notify User:Arctic Night on their talk page, because their talk page is apparently "unavailable", or something, as of 11 of February, 11:45, when I was trying to notify them). Let's hope that the 1RR is not violated again. Good luck.

Eliko (talk) 11:45, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Cheers. As I recommended above, your case was closed with no action against you. The closing admin hopes you "may be willing to compromise", and keeps Foreign relations of the Palestinian National Authority "on their watch list to be sure the problem does not recur". Let's hope that the 1RR is not violated again, and that no sources nor quotations - supported by the majority - are unilaterally deleted without having tried to compromise. Notice that a compromise can be reached by a lot of ways, none of which is a unilateral deletion of sources/quotations supported by the majority. Good luck. Eliko (talk) 21:15, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, discussion on the OR noticeboard is yet to achieve a consensus for these edits. I will be reverting your repeated addition of this information once protection expires. Nightw 05:35, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, any experiment made by any user - to unilaterally delete sources/quotations supported by the majority - without that user having tried to apply the closing admin's request to "compromise" with the majority beforehand (see ibid.), will be treated by the admins - who are going to keep the article "on their watch list to be sure the problem does not recur" (see ibid.). Let's hope that the 1RR is not violated again, and that no sources nor quotations supported by the majority - are unilaterally deleted without having tried to apply the closing admin's request to "compromise" with the majority beforehand. Eliko (talk) 09:20, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

FSM naming convention

Hello! Sorry, I've been without internet access for a few weeks. Would you recommend that I try and get the flagtemplate for "Micronesia" deleted? Where would I do this? Rennell435 (talk) 08:48, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

List of sovereign states

It seems we've finally found a mediator for this case. Please see the discussion here and indicate whether you consent to mediation. Thanks. TDL (talk) 23:22, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

List of sovereign states - sorting criteria

The initial MEDCAB mediator got busy and a second mediator is willing to take the case, but we need to re-state our acceptance/decline. Please see the discussion here and indicate whether you consent to mediation or not. Please, even if you don't expect to participate (because of lack of time or other reason) - state your acceptance/non-acceptance of the mediation process - so that we don't have to wait for unaccounted for users. Thanks. Alinor (talk) 18:32, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Great job

Congratulations on the Monarch list. That took a long time. On to the next project then, keep it up. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 03:21, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

I just saw it then! Cheers mate! Nightw 14:19, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Hey

I saw that your online and I know your interested in the I/P conflict, so could you please help me write the article for the resolution vetoing, I've started it here. Passionless -Talk 09:05, 20 February 2011 (UTC)