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Who is this person

I am curious as to why you were representing yourself as an official editor and moderator of Misplaced Pages. If this is the case, please let me know. The picture as posted by me, does not have a tag blocking the chest. The AKC standard states "Urajiro (cream to white ventral color) is required in the following areas on all coat colors: on the sides of the muzzle, on the cheeks, inside the ears, on the underjaw and upper throat inside of legs, on the abdomen, around the vent and the ventral side of the tail. "

The dog previous had brown on sides of muzzle. Wrong Inside the ear, the color on the previous dog is not cream or white. Underjaw, and upper throat can not be seen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rickjacoblang (talk • contribs) 07:56, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Also, as stated - this is a picture of a puppy. Naturally the ears are bigger, the face if very similar in breadth to the other photo. As a puppy, well within breed standards. The other dog is improperly marked. I have had no other person question this. Is that your dog that I removed or something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rickjacoblang (talk • contribs) 08:02, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for your contribution to the article Akita Inu!

and in Lithuania

Somebody who can read materials in Japanese a lot faster than I can (and who is not battling with a computer that doesn't like him) may be interested in this. I imagine that you're busy too, but if you are interested in this, then of course feel free to disagree with me there. -- Hoary (talk) 15:21, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

OK. But I read/comprehend materials in English a lot slower than you do and the thread is very long. I try to check the matter. BTW, what's wrong with your computer? My old 2k is still working fine, it's slow though. Brrr, It's cold outside, isn't it? Keep warm! Oda Mari (talk) 15:49, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

You'll be happy when I say that it's probably not a good idea to say anything more here at RS/N. But it could be a good idea to comment judiciously at Talk:Chiune Sugihara. As always, one major problem is that looking in libraries for materials -- even if one knows where to look (which pages of which issue of which magazine) -- is tiresome, while what's available on the web in Japanese is so insubstantial compared with what's available in English. (Regardless of what one may think about the relative value of the Guardian and 朝日新聞, virtually everything from the former is freely available on the web, whereas almost nothing from the latter is.) Anyway, see this. At best, it's a blatant copyright violation. Worse, it could have been tampered with. Still, it does appear to be an article in Aera with serious implications for the credibility of a book that's taken seriously by editors of the article on Sugihara. Meanwhile, there are reputable books in Japanese about Sugihara, but few editors of en.WP who have the ability, and can spare the time and effort needed, to read and digest even just part of one of them. IFF you're interested, your input would be welcome. ¶ Although I tend to distrust anything published in the 1990s by the Free Press (before then an excellent publisher, and for all I know excellent now as well), it's not a good idea just to say (even with good reason) that we can't believe HL when he writes X. Instead, if there's a conflict between HL writing X and some other author (let's call her SOA) writing not-X, then we have to see which account (X or not-X) or which author (HL or SOA) is more credible. ¶ I have an excellent Win2k computer too, but unfortunately it lacks the puff to run Gimp on any but small files, and also I presume that it's full of security holes and hardly dare connect it to the net. But Win2k was fine in its day. When XP came out, I was eager to jump ship. Mac OS X is very good but I'm underwhelmed by Apple hardware, always seemingly designed to look good in Yodobashi Camera but mechanically dubious. So I've been using (K)Ubuntu. However, I'm not happy with the upgrade process, and so my newest machine is running Debian. Except that right now it's only running 95% or so of the needed bits of Debian, and getting the missing 5% is troublesome. But I'm pretty confident that today I'll get it all sorted out. ¶ Whatever you think of the relative appeals of Windows and GNU/Linux, it's good to have a bootable ("live") CD for emergency purposes. And this means GNU/Linux (or something more exotic). I recommend "#!". (The ja:WP article about it is seriously out of date.) ¶ Yes, too cold! Yesterday I walked out to Doutor to get an espresso that's better than coffee I can make myself, and then found that I'd left my money at home, so I had to walk back home. Then I had to thaw my hands. Coming on top of computer problems, that was a bit much. -- Hoary (talk) 00:48, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure it was a good idea, but I posted my comment on RS/N. It made me tired. BTW, I need your help on this article . See the ja article. It's a TV program. I'll provide sources later. Are you still battleing with your computer? Oda Mari (talk) 09:48, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your good work at RS/N. I think that the person who started the thread had his heart in the right place but was far too vehement for his own good, and that this alienated a lot of his readers. He makes some good points. But the article is not about Levine, it's about Sugihara; the thing to do is of course to find and use sources that are better than Levine. ¶ Shichiji ni aimashō is still an utterly dreadful article, but now it's merely uninformative, uninteresting, unsourced, and possibly fictional; whereas before it was all of these and also self-contradictory. I'll keep an eye on it. ¶ Yes, thank you, I am now happily using my Dell laptop running Debian 6.0.0. 日本語入力も平気。 I bought the computer over the web and in principle could make many choices. The choice not to have Windows was not among them. I had a choice of colors, but the choice not to have two "Windows" stickers was not available. I was able to correspond with email and asked there if I could have it without Windows, without the stickers, or (best of all) without either Windows or the stickers, and with no reduction in price. No, was the answer. Aren't "antimonopoly" laws wonderful! ¶ A great thing about having a computer with a US keyboard, with Ctrl and CapsLock switched around, and with Debian installed is that nobody is going to ask if she can borrow it, even for a few minutes. Or if I am asked, once I start explaining they should lose interest in a few seconds. (Actually it all "looks and feels" much the same as Windows or Mac OS X, really.) -- Hoary (talk) 13:38, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the edits on Shichiji. The TV program was too old to find RS on the web. Though the ja article has no RS, it seems to be generally correct. It's not a controversial topic. What I could find are , , , , and see 44 and 45. The June 8th episode was first sold in VHS format in 1995 as a memorial video ten years after Sakamoto's death. The director of the program was Akio Jissoji. That "あいま" is not "interval". It is "あいましょう"/let's meet with a pun "show". I'm glad to hear you tamed your computer. Debian sounds fine. But I want to use several applications probably working only on Windows/Mac, and I stick to Windows. Oda Mari (talk) 15:02, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Ah, sorry about the mistake in the article. I fixed that a couple of minutes ago, but now unfortunately am too sleepy to do anything further. Good night! -- Hoary (talk) 15:43, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

A small step forward...your thoughts?

With the input of some previously uninvolved editors, we've developed a compromise wording on the Remin Ribao article sentence at Senkaku Islands dispute. As one of the prior discussants in this issue, I'd appreciate your input in the very last section on talk as to whether you could accept the compromise we've cobbled together. The short argument is that 4 of us (including 2 uninvolved editors) that the article will be better if we clearly attribute that interpretation of the Remin Ribao article, in the sentence, ""The Japanese government and U.S. researchers have claimed that a 1953 article in The People's Daily, a daily newspaper which is the organ of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China (CPC), stated that the Senkaku Islands were a part of the Rykuyu Islands, and that this further implied that the Senkaku Islands were a part of Japanese territory" (keeping all of the current sources). I sincerely hope that you might be persuaded to accept this as a compromise that clearly includes the sentence, all of the sources, and doesn't state that the translation may be false, while also clearly indicating the that the translation is an act of interpretation. I'd love to hear your input. Qwyrxian (talk) 05:29, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Compromise?

In the process of revisiting the definition of the word "compromise", I found these timely quotes:

• All compromise is based on give and take, but there can be no give and take on fundamentals. Any compromise on mere fundamentals is a surrender. For it is all give and no take. — Mohandas Gandhi
• A good compromise, a good piece of legislation, is like a good sentence; or a good piece of music. Everybody can recognize it. They say, 'Huh. It works. It makes sense.' — Barack Obama

When you evaluate what Qwyrxian wrote above, consider these conflicting ways in which the word "compromise" is used:

1. The primary issue of contention was about ... a deceptive misinterpreation of a primary source. You proposed a compromise (which I accept) to rewrite the text .... Bobthefish2 02:44, 12 February 2011
2. I sincerely hope that you might be persuaded to accept this as a compromise .... Qwyrxian 05:29, 15 February 2011
3. Please understand, I'm not doing this out of some sort of sense of compromise .... Qwyrxian (talk) 12:31, 15 February 2011

In Qwyrxian's analysis above, the pivot of so-called "compromise" is explicit: " ... doesn't state that the translation may be false ...."

Gandhi's words sway my thinking about this phrase. --Tenmei (talk) 20:16, 15 February 2011

What best serves our shared Misplaced Pages goals

Your good judgement inspires me. With my words here I affirm my belief in the value of your best guesses about what to do in difficult situations.

Especially now, it bears repeating that our shared goal is ensuring academic credibility of all articles in our Misplaced Pages project. --Tenmei (talk) 19:40, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Bobthefish2

I've decided to escalate his behaviour at Misplaced Pages:Wikiquette_alerts#User:Bobthefish2. Your comments would be welcome. Also, can I say, do join back in the discussion at Talk:Senkaku_Islands_dispute. If bob gets to you, just ignore him. Don't let him get to you. :) John Smith's (talk) 10:49, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Baiting

Re: Misplaced Pages:Wikiquette alerts#User:Bobthefish2

In the past, I regret failing to do enough to oppose harassment in the form of baiting.

I responded to Bobthefish2's new gambit here at Senkaku Islands dispute by posting this:

WP:AGF is drained of meaning by WP:POKING WP:BAITING -- see context here + here which justifies zero tolerance.

This makes me sad. I didn't understand.--Tenmei (talk) 21:33, 21 February 2011 (UTC)