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| == Topic and interaction ban == | |||
| I have enacted the sanctions I listed at ANI for one month, based on a clear consensus there. You are topic banned from all abortion-related articles, broadly construed. You are also interaction banned from everyone you've been in dispute with on those pages. Similarly, they are to leave you alone too. Let me, or any other admin, know if someone follows you and starts bugging you. ''Note'' that a simple spelling correction doesn't count as stalking or harrassing; there actually needs to be an interaction to be a problem. Also note that if someone you've been in dispute with specifically invites you to discuss things with them (for example Magog the Ogre did so in the ANI thread), then I certainly won't hold that against either of you. | |||
| The full wording of the sanctions is here: . The only change is that, based on a few comments, I won't jump immediately to an indef block if you stray; I'll start with a 1 week block, to make sure you understand how serious I am about this. | |||
| Finally, I encourage you to find one or more people to bounce ideas off of; not to volunteer other people for work, but you might read through the ANI thread, find people who seem more sypathetic, and ask them for advice if you run into difficulty. You're welcome to ask me as well, though I assume you wouldn't value my advice as much. --] (]) 14:19, 3 March 2011 (UTC) | |||
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Ray McGovern
Hey, looks like we're editing the same section at the same time. Just wanna say, slow down there for a moment. I know what you mean about DemocracyNow. I had the same reaction. So I found some other sources. Look at the links to the GW Hatchet, the student newspaper covering the event, mainly for the video they provide. It's clear it was pretty rough. Maybe we don't need to have his quotes in there, but it's apparent that there was an ironic arrest for a protester at a speech critical of other governments' crackdowns on protesters.
--Qwerty0 (talk) 06:22, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- Wouldn't using videos to decide on our own that it was a "rough" arrest be original research? I was going to question the Hatchet as a source but looking at their article, it appears they have far more credibility than the average student newspaper. I did read the links, there isn't anything in them that says that it was a rough arrest. Seems to be just a guy who was causing a distraction at a speech, asked to stop, refused, then asked to leave, refused, and then taken out by security. WM Please leave me a wb if you reply 06:26, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- I don't know, it seems to me the video is a source, part and parcel of an article from the Hatchet. That, plus another video in this Huffington Post article, plus the quotes in that article, plus his testimony in the DemocracyNow interview, starts to add up to a reality reported by several sources that we'd be actively trying to ignore.
- Just a note that I left my final comment on the article's talk page. It seems a bit extreme of a position to not acknowledge the allegations of "roughness" and the ironic arrest at a speech about the freedom to protest. And a little misguided to omit facts reported by several sources because of reservations about some of the sources individually.
Topic and interaction ban
I have enacted the sanctions I listed at ANI for one month, based on a clear consensus there. You are topic banned from all abortion-related articles, broadly construed. You are also interaction banned from everyone you've been in dispute with on those pages. Similarly, they are to leave you alone too. Let me, or any other admin, know if someone follows you and starts bugging you. Note that a simple spelling correction doesn't count as stalking or harrassing; there actually needs to be an interaction to be a problem. Also note that if someone you've been in dispute with specifically invites you to discuss things with them (for example Magog the Ogre did so in the ANI thread), then I certainly won't hold that against either of you.
The full wording of the sanctions is here: . The only change is that, based on a few comments, I won't jump immediately to an indef block if you stray; I'll start with a 1 week block, to make sure you understand how serious I am about this.
Finally, I encourage you to find one or more people to bounce ideas off of; not to volunteer other people for work, but you might read through the ANI thread, find people who seem more sypathetic, and ask them for advice if you run into difficulty. You're welcome to ask me as well, though I assume you wouldn't value my advice as much. --Floquensock (talk) 14:19, 3 March 2011 (UTC)