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Instructions

Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination. Every approved hook will appear on the main page.

DYK criteria

How to list a new nomination

Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

1. Nom without image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= }}
2. Nom with image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= | image= | caption= }}

   To include more than one new or expanded article in a single hook: |article2= |article3= |article4= | (etc)

   To include more than one author: |author2= |author3= | (etc)

   To include alternate hooks: |ALT1= |ALT2= | (etc)

   To add a comment: |comment=

   To add the article you reviewed: |reviewed=

Do not wikilink the article title, or the author username field; the template will wikilink them automatically. Do wikilink the article title in the hook field, however.
Do not add a section heading if you are using the template; the template will add one for you.
Do not include a signature (~~~~) after the template.
Do not use non-free images in your hook suggestion.

An example of how to use the template is given below. Don't forget to fill out the rollover text, so people know what the image is of! Full details are at {{NewDYKnom}}:

{{subst:NewDYKnom
 | article      = Example
 | status       = new<!--(or)  expanded (or) BLP expanded-->
 | hook         = ... that this ] is an  ''']''' ''(pictured)''?
 | author       = User1
 | nominator    = User2
 | image        = Example.png
 | rollover     = An example image
 | alttext      = Description of the image
 | comment      =
 | reviewed     = Article you reviewed
 | revieweddiff = diff link to the article review
}}

• Note that you should only use one of the above templates for the original hook. If you want to suggest a second, alternative hook for the same article submission, just type it in manually. The above templates output useful code for each submission and if you employ them for alternative hooks, you will mess up the page formatting.
• When saving your suggestion, please add the name of the suggested article to your edit summary.
• Please check back for comments on your nomination. Responding to reasonable objections will help ensure that your article is listed.
• If you nominate someone else's article, you can use {{subst:DYKNom}} to notify them. Usage: {{subst:DYKNom|Article name}}

How to review a nomination

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the additional rules.

If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or note that there is an issue with the article or hook, please use the following symbols to point the issues out:

Symbol	Code	DYK Ready?	Description
	{{subst:DYKtick}}	Yes	No problems, ready for DYK
	{{subst:DYKtickAGF}}	Yes	Article is ready for DYK, with a foreign-language or offline hook reference accepted in good faith
	{{subst:DYK?}}	Query	DYK eligibility requires that an issue be addressed. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
	{{subst:DYK?no}}	Maybe	DYK eligibility requires additional work. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
	{{subst:DYKno}}	No	Article is either completely ineligible, or else requires considerable work before becoming eligible

Please consider using {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page, in case they do not notice that there is an issue.

Backlogged?

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first (so that those hooks don't grow stale), it may take several days until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions above).

Where is my hook?

If you can't find the hook you submitted to this page, in most cases it means your article has been approved and is in the queue for display on the main page. You can check whether your hook has been moved to the queue by reviewing the queue listings.

If your hook is not in the queue or already on the main page, it has probably been deleted. Deletion occurs if the hook is more than about eight days old and has unresolved issues for which any discussion has gone stale. If you think your hook has been unfairly deleted, you can query its deletion on the discussion page, but as a general rule deleted hooks will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Nominations

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on February 14

Pleasure Dissociative Orgasmic Disorder

• ... that people who suffer from Pleasure Dissociative Orgasmic Disorder are unable to feel pleasure from an orgasm?

• Reviewed: Battle of Quebec (ice hockey)

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 10:14 pm, 13 February 2011, Sunday (13 days ago) (UTC−5)

All checks out. --TIAYN (talk) 8:51 am, 14 February 2011, Monday (12 days ago) (UTC−5)

Returned from Prep 4 per concerns on DYK discussion page. - Dravecky (talk) 6:58 am, 23 February 2011, last Wednesday (3 days ago) (UTC−5)

I'm tackling the issues right now. I forgot to reply here on this but I had to wait until the weekend until I could find some actual time to improve this article. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:44, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• Comment This submsission was removed here and then restored by the nominator. SpinningSpark 13:13, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• I forgot to reply here after replying on the Misplaced Pages talk page for this process. Therefore, it looked as though I had no interest in improving it. I didn't realize this until it was removed so I added it back in as I wanted to continue improving it. I have added a few things at the moment and am awaiting a copyedit from a friend as well as adding of symptoms within the next day or so by me. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:39, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• I would oppose this going on the main page for now. The references do not, for the most part, meet WP:MEDRS. While the authors of the "Institute for Sexual Medicine" may be experts or practitioners in their field, it does not seem that their website is appropriately peer-reviewed. This does not seem to be a very reliable source, though I could be wrong. Ref #4 is written by someone who is a professor emeritus of psychology at Fuller Theological Seminary, hardly a reliable medical source. This page needs to be reviewed and possibly rewritten by the good folks of the Medicine Wikiproject. NW (Talk) 00:11, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Here is the WT:DYK thread relating to this nomination:

please check the last article Pleasure Dissociative Orgasmic Disorder - I am slightly worried by its sources and capitalization. Materialscientist (talk) 00:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

I note that the only instance of the article's title in the literature seems to come from the cited Perelman article, published in the 14th of this month. It may therefore not be a suitable title, even if the content is acceptable. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:06, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

The term is unknown to Web of Science or Scopus. Materialscientist (talk) 01:17, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

I published the article on the 14th, but I'm assuming that you're sayint that the source was also published on this date? Kevin Rutherford (talk) 14:48, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

1. Presently sexual anhedonia redirects to this article. I suggest this is backwards – the article should be at "sexual anhedonia" and "pleasure dissociative orgasm disorder" should be the redirect. This is not only because anhedonia is the natural parent article but also because some variant on sexual anhedonia is, I suspect, the common name for the condition.
2. The article needs a decent copy-edit, it is not main page ready IMO. For example, the sentence "There are a number of treatments available for those who suffer from this disorder, should it cause personnal distress."... leaving aside the spelling, this seriously minimises how distressing (and embarrassing) this condition can be. People fail to seek treatment for this condition out of embarrassment, not because they are not distrissed by it. Later, we have "Additionally, blood testing might help determine levels of hormones and other things in the bloodstream that might inhibit pleasure. Finally, treatment with drugs that increase dopamine, such as oxytocin, and other drugs."... the former sentence is poorly expressed and, I think, misleading; the latter sentence is not a sentence.
3. The article is obviously incomplete. One very major source of this condition is as a side effect of SSRIs and other anti-depressant medications, yet this is not even mentioned in the text.
4. There must be better references for this. How about:

• Comprehensive Textbook of Sexual Medicine
• A chapter on sexual anhedonia
• Kaplan & Sadock's concise textbook of clinical psychiatry uses the term orgasmic anhedonia
• Google books searches for anhedonia, sexual anhedonia, SSRI and anhedonia provide plenty of hits.

EdChem (talk) 11:51, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• Working apparently simultaneously, Materialscientist has pulled it from Prep 4 and I have returned it to the discussion page. - Dravecky (talk) 12:00, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

I have addresses some of the issues now, but I'll get back to it later on today. I'll have a friend look over the article later but I may be delayed in any action on this until at least the weekend. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 14:48, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

EdChem (talk) 08:59, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I have pretty much done all of the above except completing the side effects of the drugs part. The copy edit was performed last night and the better citations were added the night before. I'll search for better ones soon but I am quite against one of them above as it really diminished the causes of the disorder on those who have it. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:43, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Please see my comment above about the sources. NW (Talk) 21:43, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I just removed the unreliable references. I'm sure there is something else someone wants so feel free to remind me if I forgot. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:57, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 21

While Europe Slept: How Radical Islam is Destroying the West from Within

• ... that Bruce Bawer's While Europe Slept: How Radical Islam is Destroying the West from Within has been described both as a "well written and well informed" and one that uses "wildly exaggerated statistics"?

• Reviewed: Lorene Cary
• Comment: Although the edit history looks like the article was created on March 5, it is not the case. The article was created on February 22, 2011 The history is misleading because the article was moved from my user space with the old history of absolutely different article I wrote there.

Created by Mbz1 (talk) and Ironholds (talk). Self nom at 07:11, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

• Comment According to the article's history, you started working on it on February 21. User:Ironholds deleted the older revisions of your user subpage and subsequently restored your recent work. Is that right? --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 12:27, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Yes, but I worked on it in my user space. It was moved to the main space on February 22, and it is considered the day of the creation of the article.--Mbz1 (talk) 13:33, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
    • I see. Ironholds deleted the article after you moved it to the main space, and he restored 44 revisions going back to February 21 (the beginning of your work on this topic). Both the dates are OK for the DYK requirements and your nomination can be simply moved to February 21. Is the date (February 22) important for you? Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 14:04, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

• • • • Actually Ironholds by my request moved the article from my user space to main space after he did some work on it in my user space. The date (February 22) is very important for me for personal reasons, but of course this importance has nothing to do with DYK nomination, and that's why I will move the nomination to February 21 as you requested. Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 16:03, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
    • In any case, it is a good, balanced and well written piece of information and a very interesting article. I checked both the reviews cited in the hook, the online version of the article published by the Economist is available here. Thanks for your work, Mbz. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 16:53, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but I think this one needs some work. The "critical reception" section is all over the shop and needs a cleanup. The "Summary" section is also not much of a summary. On topics as sensitive as this, we need to get things right. Gatoclass (talk) 16:50, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

What exactly do you suggest to change? I think the article presents various contrasting opinions and reviews regarding this sensitive topic/book. It is a new work and it isn't perfect, but I can't find any significant bias or imbalance in the article. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 21:57, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Besides positive and negative reviews are mixed in the original sources, and it is all, but impossible to separate those, and the article was edited by the users with a different backgrounds.--Mbz1 (talk) 23:33, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Just looking at one source, the Boston Globe review as currently treated in the article seems to be mis-represented; the quote used is the reviewer's summary of Part I of the book. The reviewer discusses Part II separately and with much stronger criticism. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:58, 24 February 2011 (UTC) Now expanded to cover this. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:40, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm currently working on this article. I will leave a note here when I'm done. Gatoclass (talk) 04:51, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

With respect, Gatoclass, your objections to this article don't seem to be grounded in the DYK criteria. I'm going to mark this as . If there are issues with the article's suitability for DYK, then let's discuss them on the talk page. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:07, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I thought I'd made myself clear, but apparently not. I have NPOV concerns about this article. That is most certainly a "DYK criteria", in fact it's our most important. I have requested some time to NPOV this article, I'll try to get that done in the next day or two. Regards, Gatoclass (talk) 04:36, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm done working on this article now. I've contacted Mbz to check the end result is acceptable to her, if so the article can be promoted. Gatoclass (talk) 14:37, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 22

Merrythought

• ... that Merrythought is the last remaining teddy bear manufacturer (product pictured) in the United Kingdom?

5x expanded by Dpaajones (talk) and Simply south (talk). Nominated by Simply south (talk) at 14:40, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Alt 1... that teddy bear manufacturer Merrythought produced Mr Whoppit, the mascot for Donald Campbell's land speed and water speed world record attempts?

Alt 2... that the English teddy bear company Merrythought has been selected to produce the official teddy bears of the London 2012 Olympic games?

• 5x expansion verified. Date, length, hook refs verified. I prefer the first hook for its simple punch, but I leave it to the administrator to decide. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 01:04, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Heh, you beat me to it. But I agree, both with the verification and with the preference for the first hook. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 02:46, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the reviews and for doing the references properly! Is the proposed image good to go too? Dpaajones (talk) 10:20, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• The image is OK, but it's too small and detailed to be seen in a thumbnail image on the Main Page. I think the image of the teddy bear would work better in this case. Yoninah (talk) 11:46, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• ... that Merrythought is the last remaining teddy bear (example pictured) manufacturer in the United Kingdom? 5x expanded by Dpaajones (talk) and Simply south (talk). Nominated by Simply south (talk) at 14:40, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Is that better? Simply south...... 12:17, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

It is a good photo, but I'm just wondering if there's an issue with using it on the Misplaced Pages homepage as it comes from flickr? (There probably isn't - but I'm sure someone will have a more definite answer.) David (talk) 13:14, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Also, would "...last remaining teddy bear manufacturer (product pictured) in the..." be allowed/is better? David (talk) 14:32, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• I cleaned up the nomination by replacing the image of the shop with the image of the teddy bear. The image of the shop was from Geograph.co.uk; is that any better than flicker? Yoninah (talk) 16:16, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

As far as I'm aware, the geograph image of the shop is completely free to use, whilst the flickr photo of the bear has some reservations. Check their wikimedia files for the full licensing details. David (talk) 16:35, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I have just checked through the DYK archives and flickr photos with the same licensing have been on the DYK homepage portal. So the teddy bear photo I think is good to go. David (talk) 18:20, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

How about these images?

or

Simply south...... 18:59, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• The shuttered factory is kind of depressing and doesn't reflect the hook. I still think the teddy bear image is best for a thumbnail image. Yoninah (talk) 19:08, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Neither are particularly clear at that size and the shop photo is better than them. I suggest we stick with the teddy bear. David (talk) 19:11, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• Hi. I recommend the teddy photo. It's perfectly fine that the photo is from Flickr. It is also, in fact, more freely licensed (CC-BY) than Misplaced Pages's default license of CC-BY-SA. --KFP (contact | edits) 22:45, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I also support the Teddy Bear photo. It is has a perfectly valid and free Commons license. We've never had a problem before with a freely licensed Flickr image uploaded to Commons. Agne/ 23:36, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I'll be serious. Photos which seem to have been nominated by me in the past seem to have only been put on the Main Page if they were created by the user writing the article. Are there any examples of photos from Geograph\flickr\related that have been put on the main page in the past year? Simply south...... 23:43, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Commons photos that are created by someone else are used all the time on the main page. One example, I personally know about is the image from Fer that was on the main page

I stand corrected. Simply south...... 00:09, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

As I wrote earlier in this discussion (which has gone on long enough - I hope it's not holding up the article's inclusion on the DYK section of the homepage!) I did a quick check and flickr photos with the same license have been used on the homepage (in the DYK section). I think we're also agreed that the teddy bear photo is better than the shop photo and the other article photos. David (talk) 00:14, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

ProtectMarriage.com

• ... that the Yes on Proposition 8 campaign was "the single largest, most powerful grassroots movement in the history of American ballot initiative campaigns" according to Ron Prentice of ProtectMarriage.com?

Created by Lionelt (talk), Binksternet (talk). Nominated by Lionelt (talk) at 19:54, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed George C. Kimble Lionel (talk) 19:55, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• Article is classified as a stub on its talk page... must be Start class or better for DYK. The last paragraph is solely about Proposition 8, not about the organization. Removing it would bring the article down to about 1700 characters; not too short to disqualify the article for DYK. Binksternet (talk) 01:54, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

It was assessed right after I created it. It looked like this, and only had primary sources. Since then I've expanded it and added 10 independent sources. Among other things it satisfies "fundamental content policies such as notability" and is in no "danger of being speedily deleted." It is now properly a Start class. WP:WikiProject_Council/Assessment_FAQ#Quality_scale Lionel (talk) 02:19, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Hook is currently a tad over the 200 bytes at 207. Can we trim it down with an Alt? Agne/ 02:28, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• I know the page itself has to do with a controversial topic, but I think we can do with a more neutral hook than that. We can provide information about the group's influence without hijacking DYK to praise their campaign. Something like "ProtectMarriage.com spearheaded the Yes on 8 ballot initiative that removed the right of same-sex couples to marry in California"? Or "...spearheaded the $Xmillion Yes on 8 campaign..."? Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 02:30, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Good point. How different is this from a company declaring their product to be "the best ever", etc? Agne/ 04:41, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• Lionelt, can you put together one or more ALT hooks with somewhat less promotional tone? The Prop 8 wikilink should be pipe linked to its full version: California Proposition 8 (2008). Binksternet (talk) 02:37, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
• Also, the new article was a total orphan until I wikilinked it at the Prop 8 page. It needs two further links in other articles to keep it from being tagged as an orphan. Article has been wikilinked in a handful of other articles—no longer an orphan. Binksternet (talk) 05:36, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't see any neutral and really useful message in the hooks or the article yet. A technical note is that refs need to be reformatted (they are either bare urls or title-only, which is not good for news pages). Materialscientist (talk) 04:48, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• I should remove myself as reviewer—I have more than doubled the article's text, including a history section and a description of the group's role in court cases. Binksternet (talk) 21:19, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that the political advocacy coalition ProtectMarriage.com was formed in 2005 from the California-based Proposition 22 Legal Defense and Education Fund? Binksternet (talk) 21:44, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
• ALT2: ... that ProtectMarriage.com formed the defense in the California lawsuit Perry v. Schwarzenegger? Binksternet (talk) 21:44, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
• ALT3: ... that ProtectMarriage.com was formed to pass California Proposition 8, a voter initiative measure? Binksternet (talk) 21:44, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I think the new hooks are better, but curiously lacking in description of any of these laws or cases. Is there a way to include a description of Prop 22, Prop 8, or Perry v. Schwarzenegger without going over the length limit? Or at the very least we should try and include information on the group's aim, ie. opposing same-sex marriage. (Also, we don't have an article on the Prop 22 LDEF, so perhaps Prop 22 should be wikilinked.) Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:35, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I agree. The new hooks are definitely better but are a little unclear. Somewhere Same-sex marriage should be linked and adding the phrase "opposition to same-sex marriage" to any of the hooks only adds 31 bytes. Agne/ 01:13, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• ALT4: ... that the political advocacy coalition ProtectMarriage.com was formed in 2005 to eliminate the possibility of same-sex marriage in the California Constitution? Binksternet (talk) 01:34, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

That's slightly inaccurate..."possibility" implies that same-sex marriages were never legal, like in other states. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 02:26, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I think a slight modification of ALT3 would be the way to go. Agne/ 02:42, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• ALT5: ... that ProtectMarriage.com was formed to pass California Proposition 8, a voter initiative against same-sex marriage?

That's good, very straightforward (not to pun...) Binksternet (talk) 03:01, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

ALT5 doesn't encompass the fact that the amendment also prohibited polygamy. The All of the ALTs are somewhat boring: "make it hooky... short, punchy, catchy, and likely to draw the readers in to wanting to read the article." If I get 5000 views I get a banana sundae: work with me people. What about:

• ALT6: ... that ProtectMarriage.com gathered 1,120,801 signatures and spent 40 million dollars to pass California Proposition 8? Lionel (talk) 02:14, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict)I don't think anyone really believes that polygamy was an issue in the vote. May I suggest adding "a referendum against same-sex marriage" or "which removed the right of same-sex couples to marry" to the end of your hook, per my above recommendation that we provide context? Does that make it too long? Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 02:49, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

I believe that ALT6 is inaccurate. The source says that $40 million was raised by all proponents, not by this group alone.   Will Beback  talk  02:47, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

There is nothing about polygamy in the article, so its absence from the hook is appropriate. Californians were not concerned about polygamy... Neither Prop 22 nor Prop 8 arguments touched upon it. The argument about polygamy is a red herring. Binksternet (talk) 16:29, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Agree with Binksternet. Polygamy is a red herring and is not needed in the article. The popular conception of Prop 8 (and the one presented by the sources and the article) is about same-sex marriage. Considering the hot button issue that it is, I don't think we'll be in need of page clicks for the hook if Alt5 is used. Agne/ 23:40, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Anybody else for ALT 5? Binksternet (talk) 09:57, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 23

Colin Hatch

• ... that convicted murderer Colin Hatch on 22 February 2011 died in an incident at Full Sutton prison in the East Riding of Yorkshire?

--BabbaQ (talk) 22:39, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• Length, history and references verified. However, this is a dull hook. People, notable or not, get killed in prison all the time (see Larry Davis, for instance). Maybe we could research this more and find a better one? Daniel Case (talk) 15:56, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

I think I stay with that hook if no one else gives a better suggestion. Thanks for the review.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:20, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• Article is at AFD. Yoninah (talk) 23:00, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Bicycle helmet laws

• ... that thirteen U.S. states have no state or local bicycle helmet laws at all?

Created by Suzanne10 (talk). Nominated by Mike Christie (talk) at 02:24, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

I haven't reviewed another nom as I haven't nominated five DYKs; I may review one later but wanted to get this nom in first. Mike Christie (talk – library) 02:24, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• Not to worry -- that requirement is only for people who nominate their own articles. It doesn't apply to nominations of other people's articles. :-) --Orlady (talk) 03:15, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
• Regarding the nominated article, the article looks like a fine contribution, but it sports a "globalize" template right now, and in reviewing the article I had some other concerns.

• Starting with the lead, I think the statement "The majority of states in the U.S. have laws requiring children under the age of sixteen to wear helmets" is inaccurate, since the article indicates that fewer than half of the states have such laws, although there are local laws in some of the states. That should be revised to state that (for example) 22 U.S. states have these laws and some municipalities and counties in other states also have them.

  Another editor has fixed this. Mike Christie (talk – library) 14:43, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

  Excellent phrasing, now used. Thanks! NebY (talk) 15:27, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• I think that the article has too many direct quotations when the quoted content is simply a statement of a fact. For example, it should be able to present the hook fact without surrounding it with quotation marks.

  I've slightly rephrased that sentence though much of it is a list so can't really be rephrased. I have proposed an alternate hook below based on the new version of the sentence. I'll suggest to the primary author that she rephrase some of the other quotes too. Mike Christie (talk – library) 14:43, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• The first sentence under "Facts" is unsourced and looks like an opinion.

  I've cut it; I don't think it was necessary. Mike Christie (talk – library) 14:43, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

As for that "globalize" template, I've already found two references about British Columbia's helmet law. I bet there are others... --Orlady (talk) 03:15, 26 February 2011 (UTC) Or the article could be retitled "Bicycle helmet laws in the United States." --Orlady (talk) 03:52, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

I'll go see if I can fix these points; obviously your comments are going to improve the article. However, can you tell me for future reference if nominated DYK has to also meet some minimum quality standards that I should be aware of? I thought the only requirements were a certain length and that the hook should be supported with an inline reference. Is there anything else that needs to be done -- e.g. do tags such as the globalize tag mean it can't be supported? Or is it just that the higher quality an article is, the more likely it is to get support? Thanks. Mike Christie (talk – library) 14:32, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

In response to your "future reference" question, see Misplaced Pages:Did you know/Additional rules#Other additional rules for the article. While there's no expectation that articles featured in DYK be "perfect," there's a general expectation that they should not have obvious problems. That section of the "additional rules" identifies several specific items that reviewers look for, but there's a tendency to view those rules a bit broadly. It's common for reviewers here to identify concerns with a nominated article -- and often (as in this case) to work with the creator(s) and nominator(s) to resolve those concerns. It is very rare for the kinds of concerns I identified to become a basis for totally rejecting a nomination; instead they usually lead to improving the article before its DYK hook reaches the main page. --Orlady (talk) 16:14, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

That sounds more than fair. Please let me know of anything other changes that would be useful to make to the article. I should add that since I posted here, two editors have made a great many improvements to the article. Mike Christie (talk – library) 16:53, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: "... there are 39 U.S. states that have no state-wide bicycle helmet laws?" Mike Christie (talk – library) 14:43, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Actually the source gives 21 states with state-wide laws and there are 50 states in the Union. If I've got my arithmetic right that leaves 29 without and I have edited the article to conform to the following suggestion:

• ALT2: "... there are 29 U.S. states that have no state-wide bicycle helmet laws?" Richard Keatinge (talk) 17:43, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

  Oops. Yes, my bad arithmetic. Thanks for fixing that. Mike Christie (talk – library) 13:19, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• When nominated, the article was a reasonably objective discussion of bicycle helmet laws in the United States. There were some issues with the article, though. In its current form, much of the original content has been removed and replaced with POV against helmet laws. The relatively minor issue of a U.S. focus was resolved, but the article is no longer actually about helmet laws and there is a POV issue. The article needs cleanup (probably including restoration of some of the deleted original content) before any hook based on it can be featured on the main page. --Orlady (talk) 06:12, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

William Martin (naturalist)

• ... that William Martin's Petrificata derbiensia, the first scientific study of fossils in English (see illustration), said that his fossils were not the remains of small crocodile tails?

• Comment: Grammy Award for Best Female Rap Solo Performance reviewed Victuallers (talk) 16:20, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

5x expanded by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 16:05, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• The article doesn't actually say this. It says that the uncles and cousins thought that they were tails, but not that he said the remains were not tails. — KV5 • Talk • 02:47, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

I have added a quote to the ref. Martin says what each fossil is - whether it is considered to be grass, vegetable or a shell - he notes that others used to say they were crocodile tails - Do you think we need to change the hook? Victuallers (talk) 17:44, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Now looks just fine. — KV5 • Talk • 12:46, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I pulled this out of the prep area, as I had concerns about the hook. First off, it is correct that Paleontology is the "scientific study of fossils," but it's misleading to call his monograph "a paleontology," as the hook implies it is. His use of a Linnaen-style species name (Petrificata derbiensia) for his book title makes the hook confusing. The article also is a bit confusing. As a reader, I'd like to know whether it was horn corals (as in the image) that people thought were crocodile tails, or some other fossil.
This is a good topic; it's just that the hook needs some more work, IMHO. --Orlady (talk) 18:39, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I've mulled this over for a while, and I think I have an idea for a nice hook that will not bother me like the first one did. This version keeps the crocodile tails, adds commentary about the image, and removes the book title (which I don't think adds anything here):

• ALT1... that in the first scientific study of fossils in English, William Martin speculated that horn coral (pictured) was a kind of bamboo and said another fossil was not a small crocodile tail? --Orlady (talk) 01:03, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Glee: The Music, Volume 5

• ... that Glee: The Music, Volume 5 includes two original songs written specifically for the series?

Created by CycloneGU (talk). Self nom at 07:11, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• This is being proposed for inclusion on March 8, when the soundtrack comes out. The article itself will get significant expansion up to March 8 and beyond, when reception is covered. This can be reworded if need be, and I'll happily participate in that process to find a better wording. Please keep in mind the March 8 proposed inclusion when considering article length and observe future work on the article before dismissing it. CycloneGU (talk) 07:12, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• It's more appropriately sized now. Awaiting review and possible ALTs. CycloneGU (talk) 05:03, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• I have noticed a holding area for March 8 as International Women's Day and several holding requests for that. If it turns out March 8 is impossible, it might be possible to try for March 15 as that is the air date of the episode using the songs I refer to in the hook. In such a case, the hook would need rewriting to refer to "tonight's episode of Glee". CycloneGU (talk) 00:58, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Regardless of the date, this is good to go. The length, refs and date (of creation) are all good.--E♴ (talk) 00:28, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Depending on which of the two dates it ends up on, I've written a couple of possible ALTs.

• ... that Glee's newest album includes two original songs written specifically for the series? (This is a possible alternative in place of the one proposed above, and might be better because it's more likely to draw mice; with the title given in the hook, people have the ability to look elsewhere instead of clicking.)
• ... that tonight's episode of Glee will feature two original songs written specifically for the series? (Alternative for March 15, the glitch is that the article doesn't have notability to exist yet - presently it's a redirect to the season article - but will be there by the 15th, but might not be created until the day before. This is why I don't feel good with delaying this one any further past March 8, because five days of working time is advised.)

• We can also combine those two hooks into one for March 15, i.e. "... that Glee's newest album includes two original songs that appear in tonight's episode of Glee?" This is a double hook if done that way, but we would have to trust that the article will be up to snuff for the episode air date. Based on the entire series of Glee articles, I have no doubt it will as it will definitely exist by the time such a double hook is used on March 15. It could probably even be created right now because we know some of the songs (the original ones of course). CycloneGU (talk) 01:45, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
• Update: Original Song now exists as an article, which is linked in two of my ALTs including the double hook. If the double hook qualifies, I'd like to also see that for March 15 either separately or in place of the single hook. What is the best way to go about this one?

Articles created/expanded on February 24

Gare de Bellegarde

• ... that when Gare de Bellegarde (current station building pictured) opened in 1858 as part of the Lyon–Geneva railway, the station building was built in the style of a Swiss chalet?

• Comment: A late nom. made in response to WT:DYK#Hook shortage. --PFHLai (talk) 09:16, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Created by Oldboltonian (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 09:16, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Date, source and length verified.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:14, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Dayr al-Shaykh

• ... that the shrine of a famous medieval shaykh in the currently depopulated village of Dayr al-Shaykh became a place of pilgrimage for locals following his death in the 13th-century?

5x expanded by Al Ameer son (talk), Huldra (talk), Tiamut (talk), and Zero0000 (talk). Self nom at 23:34, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• Removed Zero0000 and Tiamut from credits - sorry, don't see their recent contribution to this article. Materialscientist (talk) 21:48, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• Good article with a small POV problem, will be happy to promote it, when the issue is resolved. Cheers.--Mbz1 (talk) 02:34, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I responded to your concern at the talk page. I don't believe there's really a POV problem. --Al Ameer son (talk) 00:06, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Beta (plasma physics)

• ... while exploring Beta in tokamak fusion power designs, studies suggested they would never be able to build a practical reactor?

5x expanded by User:Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 14:26, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Donald S. Sanford below.

• Good to go.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:45, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Comments: Is the hook too technical for general readers of MainPage? Who's Troyon? (How about "the exploration of..." instead?) --PFHLai (talk) 22:26, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Works for me, editing... Maury Markowitz (talk)

• The hook is incredibly dense, and will probably not attract any clicks. The article is equally difficult to understand, and lacks inline citations on many paragraphs. The best line for a hook --Beta can be thought of as a ratio of "money in" to "money out" for a nuclear reactor. -- isn't even sourced. Yoninah (talk) 01:21, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• The article is seriously deficient in the sourcing department. --Orlady (talk) 23:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Really? Can you be more specific? Is the hook not cited? Anything else? Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:02, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• The last 3 paragraphs of the article appear to be well-supported with reference citations, but the rest of the article does not. For example, in the two-paragraph "Fusion basics" section, there is only one inline citation, which appears to be reference support only for the statement "In the case of the D-T mixture, rapid fusion will occur when the gas is heated to about 100 million degrees." There are no sources cited in the 2-paragraph "Confinement" section. The only source cited under "MCF approach" (another 2-paragraph section) appears to be reference support only for the first 3 sentences of the second-paragraph. In the "Beta" section there are reference citations for the equations, attributions of who determined what when, and some other details, but there are several key statements whose sources cannot be determined. --Orlady (talk) 17:53, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Please see Rule D2: There should be at least one inline citation per paragraph, and if the material is sourced to different references, those should be included after each statement or explanation. Yoninah (talk) 16:06, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

In the interests of avoiding another multi-week inconclusive fight in the talk pages, I will withdraw this entry if you explicitly demand it. Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:15, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Is it so hard to reference what you wrote? At any time, the article will be subject to a "cite more sources" tag under Misplaced Pages rules. Yoninah (talk) 16:23, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Thunderbolt (interface)

• ... that Intel's newly released Thunderbolt interface uses Apple's Mini DisplayPort connectors to support both data and displays at the same time?

5x expanded by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 14:01, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewd article below Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:01, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• Maury Markowitz is referring to Seara (newspaper). I'm just specifying this because the order in the queue may shift (Seara may get picked up before Thunderbolt), and the meaning of "article below" will hence be lost. Dahn (talk) 11:49, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• Maury, are you the IP user who did this expansion on February 24? (Just verifying; I would guess so, because your next edit was 8 minutes later). Yoninah (talk) 15:24, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I don't know! The edit history is all screwed up because of multiple moves, and now I'm totally confused myself. The "original article" that I (and many others, this was seriously collaborative) started expanding can be found here, but how that relates to the existing article, or the previously-existing Light Peak one, is making my brain hurt! Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:02, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for my "dumb robot" approach here. Dozens of editors rewrote this article, so let us take expansion start as 20 Feb (can't go earlier). The version before was reasonably referenced and has not been 5x expanded after. The topics overlap too much to claim a new article. Materialscientist (talk) 00:04, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Adoption of Ala'a Eddeen

• ... that an American soldier, who was deployed to Iraq, adopted an Iraqi boy who could not walk because of cerebral palsy?

• Reviewed: Bicycle Race

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 16:09, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

While the date, length, and sources check out, the article does not sound very encyclopedic. It sounds more like a newspaper article. I think another opinion is needed before it's submitted to the queue. Also, I removed a comma after "boy". Ruby2010 talk 03:00, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Well, about coma it could be either way I believe. About the article being "not very encyclopedic", do you have any particular suggestions? This is a notable story that was reported in many sources, and IMO should be represented on Misplaced Pages also. I am sure wikipedia have many other articles that as you say "sound more like a newspaper articles". If you believe the article to be not encyclopedic, you may nominate it on deletion, but as long as it stays on wikipedia there's no valid reason to prevent it promotion for DYK.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:26, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

I did, article at AfD. Yazan (talk) 05:34, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Afd was closed as Keep. Yazan (talk) 11:16, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

First Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation

• ... that a First Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation has to be nominated by the Prime Minister and later appointed by the President to take office?

Created by TIAYN (talk) 10:08, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Black Thunder (chocolate bar) --TIAYN (talk) 10:11, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

• AGF on foreign language sources, but the prose size is barely 268 chars, it needs to be at least 1500. Yazan (talk) 18:58, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Zayd Mutee' Dammaj

• ... that Zayd Mutee' Dammaj was a Yemeni politician and writer whose 1984 novel The Hostage was selected by the Arab Writers Union as one of the 100 best Arabic novels of the 20th century?

created by Peripatetic (talk). Self nom on 24 February 2011 (UTC)

• The source for the hook is a blog, which puts a strain on WP:RS. I'm sure an info of this magnitude can be referred to better sources, both Anglophone and Arabophone. Dahn (talk) 12:56, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Disi Water Conveyance Project

• ... that due to the Disi Water Conveyance Project currently under construction, citizens of Amman, Jordan may soon be drinking extremely radioactive water?

• Reviewed: Jeff Krogh ()

Created by E2eamon (talk). Self nom at 00:23, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• This doesn't seem very NPOV based on the article. The article cites one study that tested existing wells in the aquifer, but I'm not seeing citations that describe tests of the actual water to be delivered by the project. Maybe an alternate hook that just says they are building this massive project and there are concerns about radioactivity in the aquifer? Zachlipton (talk) 22:18, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• I agree. I have seen some somewhat misleading hooks on DYK before (things that make puns, etc), and thought that this would be acceptable because, technically, it does say that they "may be drinking" radioactive water. If, however, there are concerns, I understand, and thus propose an alternate. --E♴ (talk) 23:39, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

ALT 1: ... that there are concerns about radioactive water in the aquifer supplying the Disi Water Conveyance Project?

Articles created/expanded on February 25

Sydenham Heritage Church

• ... that the Sydenham Heritage Church (pictured), twice threatened by demolition since 1997, was purchased by a community trust for its preservation?

• ALT1:... that the Sydenham Heritage Church (pictured), twice threatened by demolition since 1997, was demolished after the 2011 Christchurch earthquake?
• Reviewed: Architonnerre (on 15 Feb)
• Comment: Another listed heritage building lost in the 22 Feb 2011 earthquake. ALT1 is more interesting, but at this point, I haven't been able to track down a reference for the demolition (when it's not worth reporting that a category II heritage building has been lost, you get a sense of the scale of the destruction). There's tons of photos of this on Twitter, Facebook and Flickr, but technically speaking that doesn't qualify as a reference. There's also a demolition photo in the article. I leave it to others to decide.

Created by Melburnian (talk), Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 19:10, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Ah, now it's been reported in the news, but for all the wrong reason. It's been demolished without the owner knowing anything about it, and the authorities who can order the demolition have both said that they didn't order it.
• ALT2:... that the Sydenham Heritage Church (pictured), twice threatened by demolition since 1997, was demolished without authorisation after the 2011 Christchurch earthquake? Schwede66 22:57, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Date, size, and all three hooks check out. I prefer ALT2 myself. --Avenue (talk) 10:28, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

George James Bruere

• ... that the House of Assembly of Bermuda appointed members to complain to King George III of the "tyranny and oppression" of Governor George James Bruere (pictured)?

• Reviewed: Kathleen, Duchess of Newcastle

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 10:33, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• The article gives no reason why the Assembly would complain about Bruere's "tyanny and oppression" other than his complaint about the laxity of their supervision of slaves. A serious problem is that there are sentences (not quotes) taken from sources that are currently under copyright with little or no paraphrasing. For example, the article says, "Bermuda tried to bargain with salt, and the American colonies asked for gunpowder," while the website at says, "When Bermuda tried to bargain with salt, the American colonies refused and requested gunpowder instead." Again, the article says, "Bruere was shocked by the leniency many owners showed towards their slaves," while the cited source, Bernhard 1999, says, "... Bruere ... was shocked by the leniency many masters exhibited towards their slaves." -- Donald Albury 10:53, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• I do not agree that the article gives no reason why the Assembly would complain about Bruere. See in particular the quotation from Sir John Kaye: "Of this Governor Bruere the colonial annalists relate that he was a man of an irascible temper and overbearing disposition, living and ruling in a perpetual state of antagonism with the Assembly and the People." I have rewritten the sentences complained of. Moonraker2 (talk) 16:50, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• - I'm satisfied now. Ready to go. -- Donald Albury 23:58, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Ndumbe Lobe Bell, Jantzen & Thormählen

• ... that King Ndumbe Lobe Bell (pictured) of the Duala assigned his sovereign rights to the trading firm of Jantzen & Thormählen in 1884?

• Reviewed: Gross Barmen, Carl Hugo Hahn, Franz Heinrich Kleinschmidt
• Comment: Reviewed articles moved to the queue before this was submitted.

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 23:50, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length of both articles and hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 16:02, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Canterbury Provincial Council Buildings

• ... that the Canterbury Provincial Council Buildings (pictured), substantially damaged in the 2011 Christchurch earthquake, contain a building that is regarded as Benjamin Mountfort's most impressive achievement?

• Reviewed: MXR Dyna Comp (diff)

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 04:21, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• I've found a photo of the Stone Chamber itself, which is the "most impressive achievement" referred to in the hook. I've added it here, but note that I've put a rename request on the file (to File:Canterbury Provincial Council Stone Chamber.jpg), as 'Church' is wrong (renaming has been done already). Schwede66 21:05, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook ref all verified. With all the hooks that have been nominated for buildings destroyed in the 2011 Christchurch earthquake, I'm wondering if we could leave that fact out of this hook and write instead:
• ALT1: ... that the interior of the Stone Chamber (pictured) in the Canterbury Provincial Council Buildings is regarded as New Zealand architect Benjamin Mountfort's most impressive achievement? Yoninah (talk) 21:42, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• I'm happy with ALT1. I've since seen a photo of the Stone Chamber, and in the article, somebody is quoted as it having been "flattened". That description is unfortunately correct; there's nothing left standing of the Stone Chamber. I thus wonder whether the use of past tense is more appropriate.
• ALT2: ... that the interior of the Stone Chamber (pictured) in the Canterbury Provincial Council Buildings was regarded as New Zealand architect Benjamin Mountfort's most impressive achievement? Schwede66 22:45, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Sounds good. ALT2 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 23:45, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Transmission Electron Microscopy DNA Sequencing

• ... that transmission electron microscopy DNA sequencing is a promising new technology which allows sequencing of individual DNA molecules?

Created by Jmgrants (talk). Nominated by Jayron32 (talk) at 01:57, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• Provisional - useful article, maybe somewhat overpromoting the involved companies and projects, but this is a small part which can be brushed up and is not that bad for this science area. I've tweaked the hook. This image won't do in 100x100px. Actual electron microscopy image of DNA would be nice. Materialscientist (talk) 11:49, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 26

Richard Knill Freeman

• ... that Richard Knill Freeman, who designed the Derby Museum, Library and Art Gallery, also designed a church in Moscow in the 1880s?

Created by Andrew Dalby (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 18:36, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook ref verified. I'm just wondering if Derby is something that's familiar to most readers (it's not to me). Alternately, you could write:
• ALT1: ... that Richard Knill Freeman, who designed churches, hospitals, municipal buildings, schools, homes and museums throughout the British Isles, also designed a church in Moscow in the 1880s? Yoninah (talk) 23:33, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Blake Geoffrion

• ... that upon making his National Hockey League debut, Blake Geoffrion became the first fourth generation player after his father Dan, grandfather Bernie and great-grandfather Howie Morenz?

5x expanded by Resolute (talk). Self nom at 04:39, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

reviewed: Muriel a oranžová smrt

Hook checks out but the article is not 5x expanded. List doesnt count.Thelmadatter (talk) 19:37, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

DYKCheck says otherwise. Before expansion began, on February 25, it was 1182 chars/181 words. Now it is 6073 chars/1018 words, about a 5.14 by characters (5.62 by word count) expansion. Resolute 21:23, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Emilia Carr

• ... that Emilia Carr, a mother of four, is presently one of two women on death row in Florida?

Created by BabbaQ (talk), KimChee (talk). Nominated by KimChee (talk) at 11:55, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Pipe Dream (musical) . Please note that the article is presently under an AfD which first needs to be resolved, but I am nominating it now before the window to do so closes. KimChee (talk) 12:00, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Checks out, pending AFD which looks like it will close as a keep. Age, length and hook length are fine and hook is cited to a reliable source. The only potential problem is "focus unduly on negative aspects of living individuals", but as the negative aspects of her biography are the only reason the person is notable, I guess it's not a problem. Not been following DYK for a while, so not sure how this will go, but apart from that issue, this is good to go. --BelovedFreak 16:46, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Campinas

• ... that the Metropolitan Cathedral of Campinas (original name Catedral Metropolitana Nossa Senhora da Conceição) located in Campinas, built between 1807 and 1883 and also opened in 1883, is considered the building as the world's largest built in rammed earth, with 4000 m² area, and also one of the highest?

Created by Marlonsales (talk). Self nom at 18:52, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• The only relevant linked article (Campinas) is not new, nor has it been recently expanded. As there is no article for Metropolitan Cathedral of Campinas, I would recommend creating one. KimChee (talk) 11:49, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Hello again, I removed your edits to Misplaced Pages:Recent additions as the article has not yet met the criteria to run on DYK. It is presently far short of the 5x expansion ratio required. I hope you understand. KimChee (talk) 19:12, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Patriarchal Cathedral of the Holy Ascension of God

• ... that the high medieval Patriarchal Cathedral (pictured) atop the Tsarevets hill in Veliko Tarnovo, Bulgaria, has had its interior repainted in a modernist style?

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 11:25, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: N. D. Cocea
• Date, length, image OK. Foreign language ref AGF. But the hook needs a citation directly at the end of the relevant sentence. (Selection criterion No 3 — The hook fact must have an inline citation right after it). --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 13:28, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• Done! Thanks for the heads-up :) — Toдor Boжinov — 13:31, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• All fine now.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 13:39, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Rabatment of the rectangle

• ... that Renaissance artists and architects used rabatment of the rectangle (example pictured) as a compositional tool in their work?

• Reviewed: Highweek ()

Created by Mattdm (talk), Binksternet (talk). Nominated by Binksternet (talk) at 19:54, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, and hook reference are all good. One quibble (does not effect DYK eligibility) is the large number of external links. Aesthetically, as bare urls they look ugly (this is an article on composition!), and a few look to be redundant. If possible, they should be winnowed down to those with the best info, and formatted. Thanks, The Interior (Talk) 18:38, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• I will take care of your concern. Thanks! Binksternet (talk) 18:53, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Great, the composition is now more harmonic. Cheers, The Interior (Talk) 19:31, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

iLoo

• ... that the iLoo was a cancelled Microsoft project by British subsidiary MSN UK to develop a Wi-Fi-enabled Internet portable toilet for summer festivals?

• Reviewed: Mothers' Bus

5x expanded by Smallman12q (talk). Self nom at 15:14, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• Description section needs at least one ref. Otherwise ok - maybe hold for April fools' glory?? As it is the article leaves an air of mystery - maybe re-adding the old pre-expansion first line would be good? Was it really a serious proposal? 2 lls in cancelled. Johnbod (talk) 00:33, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Some say it was a serious proposal and got scrapped because they might have been sued by the inventor of the toilet roll browser. Others simply say it wasn't very serious, but either way it got a lot of attention either way. I know cancelled is spelled with 2 ll's, but firefox spell checker kept telling me otherwise. Feel free to keep for April fools...there are plenty of jokes to be made about this one=P. Anyhow, I'd like to get this to GA/FA now that I have the April 30th press release.Smallman12q (talk) 02:02, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Collective leadership

A man with greying hair, in military uniform with five medals

• ... that collective leadership was seen as the ideal form of governance by Soviet ideologists during the rules of Nikita Khrushchev and Leonid Brezhnev (pictured)?

Created by --TIAYN (talk) 13:42, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed M-46 (Michigan highway) --TIAYN (talk) 13:48, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Length, date and hook are fine. My only query would be the formating of the references. These seem strange to me. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:59, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

What's wrong with how the references are formatted? --TIAYN (talk) 13:06, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Comment: In the caption for Lenin's picture, where it says "extolled in", do you mean "excelled in" or "extolled"? A. Parrot (talk) 00:42, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I ment excelled. --TIAYN (talk) 13:06, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 27

Hitomi Niiya

• ... that the women's race at the 2007 Tokyo Marathon was won by a marathon débutante, Hitomi Niiya?

• ALT1:that the women's race at the 2007 Tokyo Marathon was won by Hitomi Niiya, who at the time had never run in a marathon before?

Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 08:39, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Operation Moolah

• ... that Operation Moolah was an attempt during the Korean War by the United States Air Force to capture a fully operational Russian MiG-15 (pictured)?

• Reviewed: Peter Cleary ()

Created by Maltedmilkshake (talk). Nominated by Bruce1ee (talk) at 06:52, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, and hook verified. Good to go for DYK. OCNative (talk) 14:31, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

7 Day Sunday

• ... that Chris Addison promoted his new satirical radio show 7 Day Sunday as "four relatively ill-informed idiots fail to take the news seriously for an hour"?

Created by MickMacNee (talk). Self nom at 18:33, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: #Gilbert R. Tredway MickMacNee (talk) 18:33, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 23:58, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Aspen City Hall

• ... that Colorado's Aspen City Hall (pictured) has previously been used as a roller rink, an armory, and a concert venue?

• Reviewed: Lake Sonfon ()

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 17:13, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• • I would have taken the plaque citation at face value anyway, but a little search found a supporting statement from the Guide to Colorado historic places on Google Books. If you can use that book as a direct (and more easily checkable) citation then we are good to go. However, perhaps you might like to throw in some more contrasting usages to enhance the hook? e.g. ...had previously been used a roller rink, a place for military maneuvers, and a concert venue? SFB 23:33, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Will do. I should have thought to search on Google Books ... I have a bunch of Aspen NRHP listings in my queue and the NPS has yet to put those app forms online. This looks like a good source for tidbits about the other ones. Daniel Case (talk) 04:57, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

 Done Reworded slightly ... better to say it was originally an armory. Daniel Case (talk) 05:08, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Yep, good choice. All right and ready for the main page! SFB 21:27, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Sehet, wir gehn hinauf gen Jerusalem, BWV 159

• ... that Picander used one of the sayings of Jesus on the cross for an aria in Bach's cantata Sehet, wir gehn hinauf gen Jerusalem, BWV 159, for the last Sunday before Lent?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 20:39, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Bach wrote it for the last Sunday before Lent, in 2011 6 March, but it's perhaps too distant to the prevailing carnival mood, proposed therefore for Ash Wednesday 9 March or later. No more Bach cantatas for Lent, it was silent time in Leipzig. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:43, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
• reviewed: #Victoria Clock Tower --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:37, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook ref all verified. Tweaked the hook to link directly to Sayings of Jesus on the cross. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 00:04, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Robert Stoepel

• ... that American composer Robert Stoepel wrote Hiawatha on Henry Wadsworth Longfellow's epic poem The Song of Hiawatha?

Created by Kosboot (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 08:24, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go! You could separate notes from citations! Makes the notes easier to read. MisterBee1966 (talk) 11:19, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Pic added, suggestion forwarded to the author, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:11, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• ALT 1... that the 1859 symphonic work Hiawatha composed by Robert Stoepel (pictured) is based on Longfellow's epic poem The Song of Hiawatha?

I'd strongly suggest using this ALT hook. The other one is potentially confusing. If nothing else the orginal hook needs "based on" or "inspired by". A composition isn't "written on", in the sense intended here. Voceditenore (talk) 09:29, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Agree, learning, crossed out the other, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:16, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Victoria Clock Tower

• ... that the clock of the Victoria Clock Tower (pictured) spent the first three years inside a tower, where only its chime could be heard but its face could not be seen?

• Reviewed: Juliusz Słowacki (on 13 Feb)
• Comment: I think this one has survived the latest earthquake.

Created by Melburnian (talk), Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 19:07, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good to me. I wonder though why the article does not mention the 2 miles you hear the chimes. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:30, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Will add Have added it. Thanks, Gerda. Schwede66 01:02, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

St John the Baptist's Church, Yarburgh

• ... that around the west door of St John the Baptist's Church, Yarburgh (pictured) in Lincolnshire are carvings of a coat of arms, Adam and Eve and the serpent, a Paschal Lamb, and a pelican?

• Reviewed: Anna Murray-Douglass

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:53, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date and hook reference checked Kaly99 (talk) 21:13, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Sophismata

• ... that sophisma "All men are donkeys or men and donkeys are donkeys" could result in both being truth and being false depending on the interpretation?

• Reviewed: Dayr al-Shaykh

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 04:35, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• Comment: "Sophismata" is plural; this should be changed in the article and in the hook. The singular would be sophisma, see the Stanford ref in the article. --Pgallert (talk) 08:40, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Will do, thank you!--Mbz1 (talk) 12:17, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Fixed.--Mbz1 (talk) 12:21, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks, that's okay now, and length and date are fine. I still have a few complaints: This sophisma cannot be true and false at he same time, so I believe "either...or" is the better wording, also supported by the Standford ref. The grammar is also still a bit strange; I suggest:

• ALT 1... that depending on the interpretation, sophismata like "All men are donkeys or men and donkeys are donkeys" could either be true or false? --Pgallert (talk) 16:21, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• But there is also a more general concern: Considering that this problem has been solved more than a hundred years ago (Gottlob Frege was the first to consistently formalise propositional and predicate logic), this article reads a bit "in-universe": In modern logic, this sentence would have to be formalised to determine its truth value, and the formalisation would remove the ambiguity. But the article does not clearly say that this is a problem specific to medieval analytical philosophy, and that it cannot occur anymore. Requesting second opinion whether this is an issue or not. --Pgallert (talk) 16:21, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I agree with the proposed alternative hook. Thank you for explaining this to me.But adding to the article the thing about the formalisation would mean to get engaged in original research. In any case this situation could be discussed at the article's talk page, and the hook should be promoted IMO.--Mbz1 (talk) 17:47, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

As stated, I would like to see a second opinion from a DYK regular. Don't want to decide that alone. I do agree with the WP:OR concern, though. --Pgallert (talk) 09:23, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

I added a general sentence that sophismata are not used in modern logic. There's no single valid reason to deny this hook.--Mbz1 (talk) 18:54, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

I don't see why this shouldn't simply be merged with stub article Sophismata as it's simply an extremely elaborate explanation of a single sophisma of dubious independent notability. (The sources discuss the phrase as a sophisma, not as independent phrase in general use that happens to be a sophisma.) Cute title aside, I can't see anybody ever searching for this as a topic. (And a redirect will catch the occasional outlier.) A merged article would solve many of the concerns expressed by other reviewers, save me from slapping merge and notability tags on this article, and still be eligible for DYK. Win-win. - Dravecky (talk) 07:48, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Brilliant idea, imho, as stand-alone notability is a bit thin for this puzzle. The inclusion would also provide a somewhat broader introduction to the meaning of this singular example. --Pgallert (talk) 13:55, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• I also agree with a merge to Sophismata and then promotion to DYK. It would be nice to see that stub get fleshed out with more content and all we would need to do with the hook is change the bolding. Agne/ 19:12, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Performed the merger as suggested here and on Talk:All men are donkeys or men and donkeys are donkeys. Changed the bolding in ALT1, stroke out original hook, changed {{DYKmake}} params. Sophismata now 5x expanded. Someone to give this a tick? --Pgallert (talk) 21:12, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

The Chieftains in China

• ... that in 1983 The Chieftains were the first ever Western musical group to play a concert on the Great Wall of China, resulting in an album:The Chieftains in China?

Created by Mike Searson (talk). Self nom at 04:06, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Barry Jones (boxer)

I'd ask that this be used on March 17 for St Patrick's Day if at all possible.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 04:06, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length OK. First part of the hook confirmed by Ref 1; the rest AGF. But how about tightening the hook (and maybe making it more accurate) as:

ALT1 ... that in 1983 The Chieftains were the first Western band to perform on the Great Wall of China, leading to the album The Chieftains in China? --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 16:51, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Works for me as far as the hook. Sometimes I write a decent hook, but I don't usually work on these types of articles (music, I'm normally a gun and knife kind of guy) so my wording was not as tight as yours was. Let me know if you need anything else!--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 17:45, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Actually, with regard to the rest of the source. I have the actual book, but I do believe that page range can be seen via Google Books, unfortunately I cannot get to google books right now due to a firewall issue. I can in about 12 hours if you need a URL, though.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 17:48, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Link added for verification, firewall let me through today.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 18:17, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• for ALT1. I didn't get direct access to the second part of the hook, but that's no problem as far as DYK is concerned - AGF. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:32, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, this should lead to it--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 21:40, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

All Saints Church, Thurgarton

• ... that All Saints Church, Thurgarton, (pictured) in Norfolk is notable for its medieval bench ends carved with poppyheads, an elephant, barrels, mythical beasts, a man, a lion, and fighting dogs?

• Reviewed: Patriarchal Cathedral of the Holy Ascension of God

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 13:36, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:19, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Tim Hardaway, Jr.

• ... that shooting guard Tim Hardaway, Jr., who is the son of National Basketball Association All-Star Tim Hardaway, was the first Michigan Wolverines freshman to score 30 points in a game in 8 years?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 05:54, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: four hook multi-hook Batman topic from Feb 12 (one hook moved to April 1) covers Rose Catherine Pinkney as well as this.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:57, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Date, length, and scoring statistics in hook verified. However, there is no source cited in the article for the fact that Jr. is the son of the elder Hardaway. KimChee (talk) 11:21, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Added a ref and a little more content.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:32, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Hook length and ref all check out. Good to go now. KimChee (talk) 17:06, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Good to go. Nice page. Plot Spoiler (talk) 04:05, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Please do not put this on the main page before March 8 because he is expected to be named Big Ten All-Freshmen on the 7th.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:21, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Comment: Does the hook really need the "who is"? I think those words can be left out without a problem. – ukexpat (talk) 02:30, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Matthew Turner (shipbuilder)

• ... that prolific shipbuilder Matthew Turner struck it rich in the San Francisco Gold Rush, and retired as a result of the 1906 San Francisco Earthquake?

• Comment: I expanded Mikenorton's article, since I had a printed source on hand.
• Reviewed: Hannah (1849 shipwreck)

Created by Mikenorton (talk), Djembayz (talk). Nominated by Djembayz (talk) at 02:09, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on February 28

Papel Prensa

• ... that Papel Prensa produced 170,000 tons of newsprint for 170 dailies in 2009, accounting for 75% of the newsprint market in Argentina?

Created by Sherlock4000 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 08:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go. Adabow (talk · contribs) 04:41, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Lernaeocera branchialis

• ... that a young Lernaeocera branchialis is an ectoparasitic crustacean on the gills of a flounder or lumpsucker, and it moves on to cod or related fishes after it has matured and mated? (infested gills of a whiting pictured)

Created by Epipelagic (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 07:57, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Did some minor spelling and tyops. Most of the sources look good but couldn't check all of them. Size, date ok. Image ok (and very, very cool; hope it will make place 1 in DYK!). However, according to my count, the hook is too long. How about:

ALT1 ... that the Lernaeocera branchialis is a parasitic crustacean that attaches to a cod’s gills (infested gills of a whiting pictured), sucks its blood and produces offspring at the same time?

If all the ''s and

Thank you for the review. I thought we don't count "(...pictured)", so I counted my hook's length as 184 characters. If ALT1 is to be used, please mention "or related fishes" in the hook, 'coz a whiting is categorized in the same family as cods but it is not a cod. --PFHLai (talk) 05:59, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Ah, ok. I am never sure whether that counts or not and I always make my hooks so short that it doesn't matter. If the (pictured...} doesn't count, then the original is ok and let's stick to that. Removed "a" before cod so that both cod and "related fishes" are plural. Otherwise, good to go!

Arizona v. New Mexico

• ... that, in Arizona v. New Mexico, the U.S. Supreme Court rejected Arizona's attempt to invoke original jurisdiction, but Arizona prevailed when the case returned to the court on appeal?

Created by Deanlaw (talk). Nominated by Orlady (talk) at 04:06, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Peter Cleary

• ... that the Cork Examiner described the killing of Peter Cleary, the first person to be killed by the Special Air Service in Northern Ireland, as "an act of utter folly"?

Created by Jeanne boleyn (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 03:32, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Length and date verified, offline refs accepted in good faith. —Bruce1ee 08:11, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Rose Historic Chapel

• ... that the Rose Historic Chapel (pictured) was the first church designed by the Luttrell brothers, and they subsequently became the unofficial architects of the Diocese of Christchurch?

• Reviewed: Ford Ecostar
• Comment: Another Christchurch earthquake victim. The fact that it was the Luttrells' first church is stated in the heritage register entry, and that they became the diocese architects is mentioned in their DNZB bio.

Created by Melburnian (talk), Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 19:09, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Château Fortia

• ... that Baron Le Roy, owner of the Châteauneuf-du-Pape estate Château Fortia, help guide the creation of the Appellation d'origine contrôlée system that became the basis of French wine laws?

• Reviewed: Grammy Award for Best Americana Album
• Comment: Primary ref is offline Chateauneuf (FN#1) in lead and in the Baron Le Roy section. However, some of the online refs can assist in verification.

Created by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 01:51, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Greg Goossen

• ... that after retiring from baseball, catcher Greg Goossen turned to acting, working as a stand-in for actor Gene Hackman?

5x expanded by MusiCitizen (talk). Nominated by Wizardman (talk) at 17:55, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Date and expansion is fine, hook fact is cited in the article and verified in online reference. Oceanh (talk) 00:55, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Le dernier sorcier

• ... that Johannes Brahms conducted the chamber opera Le dernier sorcier, written by Pauline Viardot (pictured), in Baden-Baden?

Created by Kosboot (talk), Voceditenore (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 09:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that Johannes Brahms conducted the chamber opera Le dernier sorcier, written by Pauline Viardot (pictured) to a French libretto by Ivan Turgenev? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:41, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
• ALT2:' ... that in 1869 Johannes Brahms conducted a gala performance in Baden-Baden of Le dernier sorcier, a chamber opera composed by Pauline Viardot (pictured)? Voceditenore (talk) 11:02, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

I've suggested ALT2 because it's clearer, more concise, and gives the time context. As a general point, it's confusing to readers who are unfamiliar with the subject to refer to a musical work as "written by" someone, especially an opera. Voceditenore (talk) 11:02, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Hannah (1849 shipwreck)

• ... that on April 29, 1849, the ship's master and two officers fled the Hannah in the only lifeboat after the brig was holed by ice, abandoning the passengers and remaining crew?

• Reviewed: 1965 Skyways Coach-Air Avro 748 crash

Created by Clarityfiend (talk). Self nom at 02:44, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Date, length, and ref all check out. --E♴ (talk) 01:22, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Date and ref check out. Expanded with ship infobox and info about sailing career. Should this article be renamed and/or have a redirect from Hannah (brig), and differentiated from the brig Hannah on the 1860 page? Djembayz (talk) 00:51, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Agriculture in Sierra Leone

• ... that agriculture in Sierra Leone (rice farmer pictured) accounts for about 50 percent of the country's Gross Domestic Product?

• Reviewed: The Stanley Clarke Band

5x expanded by Kaly99 (talk). Self nom at 17:49, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date and 5x expansion confirmed, hook verified as well. — Toдor Boжinov — 08:15, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Papyrus Rylands 458

• ... that Papyrus Rylands 458 (pictured) is the oldest known manuscript of the Septuagint?

• Reviewed: University of Redwood (University of Redwood)

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 17:02, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Everything checks out- length, date, refs. I am no expert on this subject, but it seems to me that the hook should read "of The Septuagint" instead of "of Septuagint" Other than that, it's good to go. --E♴ (talk) 03:19, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• OK. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 11:29, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Is there a word missing from this sentence? It's from the section titled "Description".

The words are not divided – written continuously, but writer regularly leaves a space at the end of sentence or clause – colometrical system.

You are right: "the words are not divided by spaces". Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 19:51, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

This article is not ready for DYK. The English has a number of mistakes and needs to be corrected. Marrante (talk) 20:02, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

I think I have  Fixed them. – ukexpat (talk) 20:21, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

North Reef Light, Flat Top Island Light

• ... that at 24 metres (79 ft) and 6 metres (20 ft), North Reef Light and Flat Top Island Light (plans shown in scale) are the tallest and the shortest of Queensland's timber framed iron clad lighthouses?

• Reviewed: Old Bavarian Donaumoos ()
• Comment: claim can be easily verified here, page 4

Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 13:14, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Nice job on these! Everything looks good- date, refs and length. I might suggest changing the hook slightly (adding "respectively" and making the d at the end of timber framed a part of the link to read:

ALT1: ... that at 24 metres (79 ft) and 6 metres (20 ft) respectively, North Reef Light and Flat Top Island Light (plans shown in scale) are the tallest and the shortest of Queensland's timber framed iron clad lighthouses?

--E♴ (talk) 03:13, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

I agree it's better, but hook length might be a problem. Also, I removed the redundant word "the" from both hooks. --Muhandes (talk) 06:08, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Scorhill

• ... that on Midsummer's Eve the sun sets over the tip of the largest stone in the Scorhill Stone Circle (pictured), indicating the circle may have had a purpose in Archaeoastronomy?

• Reviewed: Glee: The Music, Volume 5 ()
• Comment: I realize that the article is classified as a stub, but I disagree with that classification, and hope this can be accepted on DYK.

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Nominated by E2eamon (talk) at 00:57, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• The article needs additional reference citations. For example, it's likely that the last two paragraphs are sourced to one of the references cited earlier in the article, but without footnotes, the reader doesn't know where to look for verification. Similarly, the fact "It is an English Heritage scheduled monument" is not sourced where it appears in the lead -- and it is not repeated elsewhere in the article. It should be pretty straightforward to supply a citation for that. --Orlady (talk) 19:36, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

The author has added some additional inline citations- hopefully solving the problem. --E♴ (talk) 02:50, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Yes, sourcing looks much better. Also, length and dates are fine, but I now have a new issue. I delved into the source for the hook, and I am doubtful of the factual basis for the statement about the sun setting over the tallest stone. The source is offline, and it seems to be a travel book, which does not place it in the highest ranks of reliable sources. I looked for confirmatory information on the alignment, and I have found (typical of these archaeoastronomical alignments, I fear) that it is not reported by very many of the online sources I found (mostly travel guides and stone-circle fan sites), and when reported it often is treated as a traditional claim of unknown veracity. This page, quoting the same source that article cites, says: "It has been said (Hayward, 1991, p.65) than at about 10 pm on midsummer's eve the sun sets behind the tallest of the standing stones at Scorhill." Moreover, I even found an alternate story on the alignment: this source states "the 2.4m (8-foot) pillar at the NW is set radially to the perimeter of the circle and with the most northerly moonrise from the centre of the circle." I'd prefer an alternate hook that does not state the alignment as fact -- or refers to some other aspect of the circle. To wit:

• ALT1 ... that on Midsummer's Eve the sun is said to set over the tip of the largest stone in the Scorhill stone circle (pictured), suggesting the circle may have had a purpose in archaeoastronomy?
• ALT2 ... that the Scorhill stone circle (pictured), which has been called Devon's finest stone circle, has marks of vandalism by stonecutters? --Orlady (talk) 04:07, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, both of those ALTs look nice to me, although I think ALT1 is more interesting than ALT2. --E♴ (talk) 06:10, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 1

2011 Malawian Air Fouling Legislation

• ... that the Minister of Justice claimed that the 2011 Malawian Air Fouling Legislation bill made farting in public illegal, but later retracted his statement?

Created by Aymatth2 (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 11:26, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Qiemo Town♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:34, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Marcel Deiss

• ... that until Marcel Deiss petitioned the French authorities to change the wine laws in 2005, it was illegal to not list the grape variety on the labels of Grand cru Alsatian wine?

• Comment: Decanter online refs (FN#7 and FN#10) in Wines section

Created by Camw (talk). Nominated by Agne27 (talk) at 00:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:38, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Characteristic equation

• ... that the mathematician Leonhard Euler discovered linear homogeneous ordinary differential equations with constant coefficients could be integrated using a simple characteristic equation?

Created by Arbitrarily0 (talk). Self nom at 19:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Grammy Award for Best Rap Performance -Arbitrarily0  19:17, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Grammy Award for Best Rap Performance

• ... that DJ Jazzy Jeff and Will Smith of DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince won Grammy Awards for Best Rap Performance the same year they boycotted the ceremony?

5x expanded by Another Believer (talk). Self nom at 17:17, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Date of expansion as well as source for hook verified. Nicely done, Arbitrarily0  19:16, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Cyanea superba, Cyanea truncata, Cyperus trachysanthos

• ... that on the Hawaiian island of Oahu, the rare and endangered flowers Cyanea superba and Cyanea truncata are threatened by feral pigs and rats, while feral goats are threats to Cyperus trachysanthos (pictured)?

Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 04:18, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Lengths, dates and hook refs all OK, image OK, but perhaps a little blurred. Mikenorton (talk) 13:10, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Papyrus Fouad 266

• ... that Papyrus Fouad 266 is the second oldest manuscript of Septuagint?

• ALT1:... that Papyrus Fouad 266 is the oldest known manuscript of the Septuagint, which used theTetragrammaton?
• ALT2:... that it is believed Papyrus Fouad 266 is a result of an early recension of the text of Septuagint towards the Masoretic Text?
• Reviewed: Henry Martyn Whitney ()

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 00:56, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Godley Statue

• ... that the Godley Statue (pictured), commemorating John Robert Godley as the "Founder of Canterbury", was the first portrait statue in New Zealand, and for almost 20 years the only one?

• Reviewed: Phoenix Indian School
• Comment: Another earthquake victim, but this one is a good news story.

Created by Melburnian (talk), Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 19:08, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that after the Godley Statue (pictured) toppled during the 2011 Christchurch earthquake, time capsules were discovered in its plinth? – ukexpat (talk) 02:36, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Size, date and both hooks seem good to me. The second hook is the more "arresting".Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:03, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm happy with ALT1, so let's run with that one. Schwede66 20:18, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Harry Whitney

• ... that Harry Whitney (pictured) was at the center of the Peary-Cook controversy over who had reached the North Pole first?

Created by Wildcatman99 (talk). Nominated by Ukexpat (talk) at 15:00, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed California Shine the Light Law (S.B. 27). – ukexpat (talk) 15:18, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Size and date fine, picture is from US Library of Congress, hook is found several places such as a New York Times headline. Author might be considered to have a minor conflict of interest, but has handled it fine. The article needed a few wikilinks and citation fixes up I just took care of those. It turns out I think he was the fourth cousin onece removed of Henry Martyn Whitney which I nominated, and seems to be already in the queue. I added one suggested wikilink to the hook which should be relevant. W Nowicki (talk) 23:23, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Great upgrades, thank you. – ukexpat (talk) 23:26, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Phoenix Indian School

• ... that the Dining Hall and Memorial Hall at the National Register of Historic Places-listed Phoenix Indian School represent the first and last examples of Mission Revival architecture in Arizona?

Created by Raymie (talk). Self nom at 04:50, 2 March 2011 (UTC) There is a picture from Commons of Memorial Hall that could be used: File:Memorial Hall, Phoenix Indian School.jpg

• It's a new article and you've written something that's quite comprehensive. The article is a long way off from being DYK ready, though. One of the requirements is that you need to have at least one reference per paragraph. Two refs for 28 paragraphs means you have a bit of work to do. I wanted to have a look at the National Register of Historic Places ref, but using the search engine on that site results in an internal server error for me, so I can't comment on things like potential copyvios or hook facts at this point. Schwede66 06:38, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
• Arizona's NRHP records are still mostly in analog, but I got it photocopied and emailed to me. Finding references for something like this is probably a little hard (I'm sure there's a good book out there). Point taken. Raymie (t • c) 20:48, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Al-Fadl ibn Salih

• ... that during the tenure of the Abbasid governor al-Fadl ibn Salih, the Egyptian cities of al-Fustat and al-Askar were merged into one large city?

Created by Al Ameer son (talk), Zozo2kx (talk). Self nom at 04:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Article length is OK. Offline hook seems reliable and is accepted in good faith. The article was created on 26 February. It should therefore be included under the 26 February sub-heading, not the 1 March sub-heading as is currently the case. However, this doesn't affect its DYK eligibility since it was less than five days old at the time of its nomination (2 March). --BomBom (talk) 17:43, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for the tick. The article was moved from userspace to mainspace on 1 March, that's why it's being nominated as created on 1 March. Regards. Yazan (talk) 17:49, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Jack Kirrane

• ... that 12 years after his team was disqualified Jack Kirrane returned to the Olympics and captained the United States ice hockey team to a gold medal?

5x expanded by Leech44 (talk). Self nom at 22:00, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Damon R. Eubank

• Staxringold _talk 19:13, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Léon Théry

Sculpture of Léon Théry at his tomb in the Père Lachaise Cemetery in Paris

• ... that Léon Théry was a French racing driver who won the Gordon Bennett Cup in 1904 and 1905?

• Reviewed: Maxberg specimen

new creation by Chienlit (talk). Self nom at 16:18, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Date, hook references verified, and wording checked. Ready to go. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 07:19, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Thank you. Chienlit (talk) 08:01, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

No. 2 Flying Training School RAAF

• ... that "all-through jet training" on Macchis (pictured) at No. 2 Flying Training School RAAF was called "an expensive way of finding out that some pupils lacked the aptitude to become military pilots"?

• Reviewed: Walter Koch (Fallschirmjäger)

5x expanded by Ian Rose (talk). Self nom at 14:28, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

1965 Skyways Coach-Air Avro 748 crash

• ... that the accident that befell Skyways Coach-Air's Avro 748 G-ARMV at Lympne Airport on 10 July 1965 resulted in the first write-off of this type of aircraft?

Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 10:13, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed USRC Virginia (1797). Mjroots (talk) 10:25, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• . I don't see anything in the references that supports the claim that the waterlogged runway caused the accident. Also, the intro has no references.

• ALT1: that though the 1965 Skyways Coach-Air Avro 748 crash ended with the passengers hanging upside down in their seats, everyone survived. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:36, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• "Waterlogged" removed. Lede does not need refs, it is a brief overview of the article. Prefer my original hook, which Clarityfiend seems not to have checked for verifiability. Mjroots (talk) 05:43, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• There's no reference for "grass runway being unable to support the weight of the aircraft during a heavy landing" (which is mentioned only in the intro). All I see is "steeper than normal approach". Also, I'm not thrilled with the reference for the hook. The reader has to infer that it was the first from the results of a database search, and has to dig down one level to even find that the plane was written off. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:19, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• "Nose wheel dug in" = surface unable to support weight. Same difference. 1st write-off now referenced to a book source. Mjroots (talk) 22:35, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Made a grammatical correction. Looks OK, personally, but this is something new for me. Raymie (t • c) 21:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Looks okay. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:30, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Calvin Tucker's Redneck Jamboree

• ... that Calvin Tucker's Redneck Jamboree is a Wii video game which features minigames based off of redneck activities?

• Reviewed: Zenga Zenga ()

Created by Nomader (talk). Self nom at 09:15, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Abdallah Salim Bawazir

• ... that Abdallah Salim Bawazir, a prolific Yemeni short story writer, novelist and columnist, worked for 33 years as the manager of a commercial store in Aden?

Created by Peripatetic (talk). Self nom, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• The article is not referenced properly, not even the hook is.... --TIAYN (talk) 15:30, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• I've notified the author of the need to supply proper referencing. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:07, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

History of the Soviet Union (1964–1982)

• ... that the Brezhnev Era was at the start ruled by a collective leadership consisting of Leonid Brezhnev as General Secretary, Alexei Kosygin as Premier, Anastas Mikoyan as head of state (replaced in 1965 by Nikolai Podgorny), Mikhail Suslov as Chief Ideologue and Andrei Kirilenko as organisational secretary?

Created by --TIAYN (talk) 15:30, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed the Abdallah Salim Bawazir page. --TIAYN (talk) 15:30, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

or...

• ... that Leonid Brezhnev did not rule the Soviet Union in an autocratic manner, but instead through a collective leadership?

or...

• ... that the Brezhnev Era was a period of declining economic growth which by Leonid Brezhnev's death, according to some historians, nearly come to a standstill?

William Isarn

• ... that William Isarn, a Spanish Count, was assassinated while trying to regain what he claimed was his family's land?

• Reviewed: Papyrus Rylands 458 ()

Created by Srnec (talk). Nominated by E2eamon (talk) at 15:17, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

This hook is in the introductory paragraph, and there is no source by "assassinated while trying to regain what he claimed was his family's land". Billy Hathorn (talk) 06:02, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

From the section "Final campaign and death":

According to the Crónica de Alaón, when William tried to reclaim it in the name of his father and grandfather, Raymond II, apparently claiming that it had reverted to his line with the death of Atto, the inhabitants of the valley assassinated him.

Srnec (talk) 04:16, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Roman Catholicism in Greenland

• ... that the Catholic Bishop of Greenland in the 1300's sent money to the Crusades in the form of walrus teeth?

Created by Judgesurreal777 (talk). Self nom at 20:05, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• The heavily used ref 2 does not link, & is apparently a blog - I'm not sure this is RS. Also I don't think walrus teeth can really be called money, and it was not "the 1300's" (ie 1300-1310), so
• ALT1; ... that a 14th century Catholic Bishop of Greenland sent walrus teeth as a contribution to the cost of the Crusades? Johnbod (talk) 04:17, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

That would be better, thanks. I am still in the process of writing the article, but just by googling "catholic walrus", I got several hits from books over a hundred years old, so I think it is reliable. I will add another two rs's tomorrow. Would that make this satisfactory? Judgesurreal777 04:52, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 2

You Make Me Wanna

• ... that Usher's 1997 song "You Make Me Wanna" is an acoustic guitar-based R&B, soul and pop ballad about "juggling three women"?

• Reviewed: Papel Prensa ()

5x expanded by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 04:52, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Battle of the Valerik River, Valerik (poem)

• ... that poet Mikhail Lermontov (author of the poem "Valerik") won the Order of St. Vladimir for valor at the 1840 Battle of the Valerik River, but was prevented from receiving it by Czar Nicholas I?

Created by Herostratus (talk). Self nom at 00:38, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: 551 Beirut earthquake immediately below. (diff) Herostratus (talk) 01:08, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

551 Beirut earthquake

• ... that movement on the newly discovered Mount Lebanon thrust is the most likely cause of the 551 Beirut earthquake and resulting tsunami, which left all the coastal cities of Lebanon in ruins?

Created by Mikenorton (talk). Self nom at 22:00, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed 'Cyanea superba, Cyanea truncata, Cyperus trachysanthos'

• Article date OK. Article length OK. Hook length OK. Hook text OK. Hook facts OK, supported by refs. Article itself is fine. Good to go. Herostratus (talk) 01:05, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
  • (My only quibble is that I thought "551 Beirut earthquake" meant "Beirut earthquake #551" and it took a while to figure it out it meant "occurred in 551 AD", but that is article title and probably MOS so whatever.) (N.B.: Would think it should be "Mount Lebanon Thrust" (proper name of a specific entity) but source uses "Mount Lebanon thrust" so guess this is OK). Herostratus (talk) 01:05, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
    • (Thanks, it's not MOS but it is the standard form for earthquake articles - as to the Mount Lebanon thrust, for such things we go with the sources for capitalisation.) Mikenorton (talk) 13:19, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
      • Right, figured something like that. Also wish MOS allowed "551 AD..." or "551 CE..." title but MOS is MOS. BTW found the article quite interesting and want to emphasize to next passing reviewer that hook is in all ways good to go. Herostratus (talk) 18:42, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Vickers Wellington LN514

• ... that in a British World War II propaganda exercise, a Wellington bomber was bult in under 24 hours, setting a new world record?

Created by MickMacNee (talk). Self nom at 18:54, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: #Chris August, Starry Night (song) MickMacNee (talk) 18:54, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, hook, image, refs all OK.

Jafr alien invasion

Jafr alien invasion, a flying saucer.

• ... that on April 1, 2010 security forces of Jordanian town of Jafr were sent into desert to look for flying saucers (pictured) that reportedly landed there a night before, but were not able to find any?

Alt 1 that on April 1, 2010 in Jordanian town of Jafr the parents refused to send their children to school because of reported extra terrestrial invasion (pictured)?

• Reviewed: St Mary at the Quay Church, Ipswich ()

Created by Mbz1 (talk and Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 15:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

KMAK

• ... that Spanish-language Regional Mexican station KMAK launched in 1990 as an English-language Christian radio outlet serving Fresno, California?

• Reviewed: Tecophilaea cyanocrocus ()

5x expanded by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 10:52, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Tecophilaea cyanocrocus

• ... that the Chilean blue crocus (pictured), native to the dry, stony slopes in the Andes mountains, was believed to be extinct in the wild until it was rediscovered in 2001?

Created by First Light (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 05:49, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Length (1602 char), dates, and references all check out and article seems from of overt close paraphrasing. I like this hook but perhaps a hook-ier hook could be built around the fact that the Chilean blue crocus is not a crocus. - Dravecky (talk) 10:50, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• (like this?)... that the Chilean blue crocus (pictured) was believed to be extinct in the wild until it was rediscovered in the Andes mountains in 2001, and despite its name, it is not a member of the genus Crocus? --PFHLai (talk) 00:09, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• How about this, to add more hookiness:

• ALT1:... that, despite its name, Chilean blue crocus (pictured), which was considered extinct until its rediscovery in the Andes mountains in 2001, is not a crocus? Cinosaur (talk) 02:02, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
• ALT2:... that, despite its name, Chilean blue crocus (pictured) is not a crocus? Cinosaur (talk) 11:41, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I'd leave out the word "actually". It's somewhat chatty English. --PFHLai (talk) 00:54, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Removed "actually" from ALT1 and ALT2. If minimalism is not of concern here, I like ALT2. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 01:40, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Smart Cover

• ... that the Smart Cover for the iPad 2 has microfiber inside that doubles as a screen cleaner?

Created by Mono (talk). Self nom at 22:24, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• I've reviewed the submission below. Thanks. Mono (talk) 22:24, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
• Looks really good to me. Nice and timely info. Logan _Talk 22:54, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
• Actually, I made the hook a bit more interesting. I'll add the info about the microfiber in the article. Logan _Talk 22:58, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
• The information is already there, actually. Looks good, now. Logan _Talk 22:59, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
• This article and the hook both look remarkably similar to product advertisements. I pulled it back from the prep area because I don't think the main page should be used for advertising. I would like to see some additional opinions on it. --Orlady (talk) 05:40, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Agreed. Too promo-like. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 02:05, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Bason Botanic Gardens

• ... that the Bason Botanic Gardens' conservatories were constructed from two demolished Wanganui picture theatres' recycled bricks?

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 03:41, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Replaced ' with {{`}} per rule C7. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 07:50, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Lenght, date and reference verified, good to go. Calistemon (talk) 06:24, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Marcel Deiss

Paul E. Osborne

• ... that after his election in 1998 as mayor of Campbellsville, Kentucky, Paul E. Osborne worked to locate Amazon.com to his city?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:31, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

:Reviewed Michael S. Gottlieb

• Length checks out, and the article was nominated in time, although it was actually created on February 26 not March 2 so this subsection should probably be moved. Referencing is generally ok, although Ref 4 requires payment and that should probably be noted. I was able to verify its existence. Ref 5 actually covers that material and also the entire paragraph it appears at the end of, so IMO that ref should be repeated a few times including following Ref 4. The hook needs a bit of work. First it's a bit misleading: Amazon.com is not headquartered in Campbellsville. Second, I don't see it actually said in the source that he worked specifically on attracting Amazon. Unless you have a quote, perhaps from that newspaper article I can't see, saying he specifically went after Amazon, may I suggest:

ALT1 ... that after his election in 1998 as mayor of Campbellsville, Kentucky, Paul E. Osborne formed a team that successfully attracted Amazon.com, among others, to replace two closed factories?

--Yngvadottir (talk) 16:49, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Belinda Meuldijk, Wim Meuldijk, Pipo en de p-p-Parelridder

• ... that Belinda Meuldijk, whose father Wim Meuldijk created the Dutch TV character Pipo de Clown (pictured), continued her father's legacy with the 2003 movie Pipo en de p-p-Parelridder?

Created/expanded by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 03:02, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• I'll review the nomination below, Pym. Drmies (talk) 03:14, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
• Oh, one more thing. It's a stretch, maybe, on a triple DYK--but Belinda is of the female persuasion, so holding it for 8 March is a possibility. We have an image (see her article) that could replace Pipo's. On the other hand, a picture of a clown on the front page, that ain't bad either. Drmies (talk) 03:34, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Lengths, dates and hook references for Belinda Meuldijk and Pipo en de p-p-Parelridder are verified. However, Wim Meuldijk lacks inline citations right after the sentence stating that he indeed created Pipo de Clown. I know it's a no-brainer, but rules are rules. Pending the citation(s), which I will have to accept in WP:AGF, the nomination is ready to go. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 04:44, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Done. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 04:56, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Sorry for harping on this, but not quite: the statement "he created the character Pipo de Clown" must end in citation, which it still does not. Cinosaur (talk) 05:02, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Done. Drmies (talk) 05:23, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. Issues resolved. Good to go. Cinosaur (talk) 05:41, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Pym (novel)

• ... that it took author Mat Johnson nine years of writing, 16 drafts, and three deletion attempts to complete his 2011 novel Pym?

Created by DracoEssentialis (talk). Self nom at 22:35, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• I hope author doesn't mind: I've changed "new" in the hook (recentism) to "2011." I'll review the rest later. Drmies (talk) 03:03, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• OK, the article is really good--how good? I'm ordering the novel. I have only one problem, well, two: the first is, I don't like references without templates, but that's not a reason to halt the DYK process; I would like to see closing punctuation in the references, though.

  But my real issue is the hook. It should probably have an "according to Johnson" since it's based on his own claim. More importantly, it's sourced to Johnson's Twitter feed, and while I guess this kind of information could be reliably sourced to Twitter, I'm not sure if a DYK nomination should have that. I'd like other authors to weigh in. Perhaps other hooks can be pondered as well--the article is full of juicy bits that are hookworthy. Draco, thanks for writing this up! Drmies (talk) 03:27, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

  No, templates are not required at any WP level, but both hook referencing concerns are valid: (i) If true, these are his words, and he clearly has WP:COI because these words would promote his novel; (ii) I doubt (don't know though) twitter verifies identity. If not then we don't even know who posted that info there. Materialscientist (talk) 05:28, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Here's a hookier hook which doesn't rely on the Twitter ref... MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 05:36, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
• ALT1:... that a reviewer said that Mat Johnson's novel Pym "skewers Edgar Allan Poe, race in America, the snack-food industry, academia, landscape painting and abominable snowmen"?

• Thank you both for your input. References are now fixed. How about a small change to MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM's alternative hook, to avoid duplicate use of "that" and credit the author of the quote:

  ... that according to book critic Jennifer Kay, Mat Johnson's novel Pym "skewers Edgar Allan Poe, race in America, the snack-food industry, academia, landscape painting and abominable snowmen"? --DracoEssentialis (talk) 10:50, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Ryan Singer (artist)

• ... that Diné artist Ryan Singer worked for the United States Forest Service before becoming a full time artist?

Created by User:Missvain (talk). Self nom at 20:28, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Not clearly explained in article, no reliable source. Perhaps a different fact? Mono (talk) 22:24, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Created a different DYK...how about that? :) Missvain (talk) 05:03, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

All Saints Church, East Horndon

• ... that All Saints Church, East Horndon, (pictured) in Essex has been damaged by a bomb, a tramp, and vandals?

• Reviewed: The Chieftains in China

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 16:58, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Cool article, facts check out. Missvain (talk) 20:26, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Ford Ecostar

• ... that Ford's first foray into electric vehicles ended after several of their Ecostar's sodium-sulfur batteries burst into flame during charging?

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 16:51, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Replaced 's with {{`s}} per rule C7. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:05, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Sedmoi Kontinent below.

"First foray into electric vehicles" - I can't see where it states that in the article, hence I was unable to confirm this fact. There's no reference at the end of the sentence that describes the fires, which is a DYK requirement. The ref at the end of that paragraph does not appear to confirm the fires, but talks about battery life and the guarantees (unless I've overlooked something). It's long enough, new, and well referenced.

To make the article more readable for people outside of the US, I recommend that you use conversion templates (I for one have no concept what 600 Fahrenheit are). It would also be desirable if you could link this article from others, so that the orphan tag can be removed. These latter points are not DYK requirements, but would improve the article. Schwede66 19:47, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Sedmoi Kontinent

• ... that Sedmoi Kontinent was the first Russian food retail company to make an initial public offering?

• Reviewed: Joanne Siegel

Created by Nanobear (talk). Self nom at 14:57, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Great article! Hook checks, other refs OK too. Good to go. I wish the Times didn't have a paywall though :-( Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:02, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Pierre Chambrin

• ... that Alice Waters lobbied the Clinton administration to appoint an American chef as a replacement for White House Executive Chef Pierre Chambrin?

Created by Yaksar (talk). Self nom at 07:48, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Date, hook references verified. Please consider slightly rewording the hook to move the main article's link more up-front to give it more prominence, like: ... that Alice Waters lobbied the Clinton administration to replace White House Executive Chef Pierre Chambrin with an American chef? Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 14:39, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• comment: American cuisine was linking to a dab page, I changed the link to Cuisine of the United States. J04n(talk page) 16:13, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Alt1:... that Alice Waters lobbied the Clinton administration to replace White House Executive Chef Pierre Chambrin with an American chef?

Is that what you meant? I'm new at this, it's my first. My only worry with this one is that it might be awkward having the word chef twice so close to each other, but I may be looking into it too much. If it's important that the bold link be close to the front, I guess this is better. Thanks!--Yaksar (let's chat) 18:15, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Not much closer in Alt1, but it's a better sentence structure, IMHO. Besides, arguably, the closer the main article link is to the hook front, the more likely it is to be looked up once on the WP:Main page. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 03:14, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Alt1 good to go. Cinosaur (talk) 03:14, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Intel Extreme Masters

• ... that Season 5 of the Intel Extreme Masters eSports tournament has a prizepool of US$130,000 spread over Starcraft II, League of Legends, Counter-Strike, and Quake Live?

• Reviewed: Crash_Position_Indicator ()
• Comment: Event ends on the 5th, so would be cool to get it up before it ends.

Created by NativeForeigner (talk). Self nom at 03:43, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

United States v. Morris

• ... that Robert Tappan Morris was convicted of a crime for releasing a worm?

• Reviewed: Hannah (1849 shipwreck) ()
• Comment: I was thinking this could be an April 1 hook.

Created by Maxburkhardt (talk). Nominated by E2eamon (talk) at 01:24, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, conviction verified. I like it for April Fool's Day (I supposedly was "in charge" for several years). Maybe you could up it a bit with the hook ... that it cost up to $53,000 to clean up after Robert Tappan Morris' worm? Royalbroil 05:10, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 3

Beverly Wolff

• ... that temperance activist Carrie Nation was the subject of a 1966 opera by Douglas Moore which starred mezzo-soprano Beverly Wolff?

5x expanded by 4meter4 (talk). Self nom at 08:21, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed Nikolla bey Ivanaj. See here.4meter4 (talk) 08:33, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Medical Arts Building (Knoxville, Tennessee)

• ... that entrances (example pictured) to Knoxville's Medical Arts Building are decorated with terra cotta buttresses, pointed arches, and the building name in Celtic script?

Created by Bms4880 (talk). Nominated by Orlady (talk) at 17:31, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Mary Hynes (politician)

• ... that as soon as Mary Hynes was appointed to the Board of the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority, she was named chair of a committee to modernize its governance?

Created by Racepacket (talk). Self nom at 16:12, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Sid Ferris

Sid Ferris

• ... that Sid Ferris was an English cyclist who broke the records for Land's End to John O'Groats, 'Edinburgh to London', and '1,000-miles' in 1937?

Created by Chienlit (talk). Self nom at 09:00, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Date, length, hook check out Racepacket (talk) 16:15, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Mieczysław Jałowiecki

• ... that in the aftermath of World War I, Polish agronomist Mieczysław Jałowiecki lost his renowned estates in Lithuania?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 06:40, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Mosque lamp

Alt hook: ... that in the aftermath of World War I, Polish agronomist Mieczysław Jałowiecki worked with the American Relief Administration?

I wonder if the two hooks could be comined; I am not sure which is more interesting. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 06:40, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Mosque lamp

• ... that three 14th century Mamluk mosque lamps in enamelled and gilded glass (similar example pictured) sold for a total of just under US$ 5 million in 2000?

Created by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 04:05, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Date, hook, size all check out - ready to go! (But please add a talk page WP:ASSESS template) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 06:32, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
• Roman Catholicism in Greenland reviewed Johnbod (talk) 04:31, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Maureen Corrigan

• ... that according to book critic Maureen Corrigan, today’s narratives of women’s suffering are breaking with a tradition going back to Homer, in that they show women talking – and fighting – back?

Created by Jayen466 (talk). Self nom at 01:24, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Sadie (dog)

• To be used on International Women's Day (8 March). --JN466 01:24, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Paweł Jasienica

• ... that Polish best-selling historian and dissident, Paweł Jasienica, due to his criticism of the Polish communist government, had his books removed from distribution and prohibited from printing?

5x expanded by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 01:07, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed SS Zealandic
• Verified length and facts. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 23:02, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

SS Zealandic

• ... that White Star Line ocean liner SS Zealandic was disguised as a decoy version of the British carrier HMS Hermes during WWII and was sunk by German submarine U-106?

Created by Fallschirmjäger (talk). Self nom at 00:24, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Date, size checks out, but sentence with hook is missing inline citation. Once those are added, the article should be good to go. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 01:02, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

•  Fixed Inline citation added. Fallschirmjäger ✉ 01:24, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Edited hook to use {{SS}} and {{HMS}} per ship's name conventions. – ukexpat (talk) 16:08, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Iulia Olteanu

• ... that Romanian runner Iulia Olteanu won the 1999 European Cross Country Championships but lost her title because of a positive test for the steroid stanozolol?

Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 23:14, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Be happy to review this but you first need to review someone else's DYK, according to the new rules... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:42, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Aspen City Hall

• Thanks -- Good to go, article age/length and hook ref/length check out. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 22:59, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

St Laurence's Church, Norwich

• ... that the west doorway of St Laurence's Church, Norwich, (pictured) in Norfolk contains carvings of "St Edmund being arrowed and St Lawrence being grilled"?

• Reviewed: Vickers Wellington LN514

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 21:10, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• date, length, hook all check. Chienlit (talk) 09:01, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Malcolm MacVicar

• ... that a hospital at Spelman College was named for Malcolm MacVicar (pictured), even though he had no direct association with the school?

Created by Cmadler (talk). Self nom at 19:47, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Iztapalapa, Mexico City (diff). cmadler (talk) 19:59, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length are fine. However, my quibble is with the hooks citation, which (besides being borderline WP:RS) doesn't seem to support the claim that Malcolm MacVicar had no direct association with the school. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 06:52, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• I'd argue first that a publication by the Spelman College Office of Communications (see About Inside Spelman) is generally reliable with regard to Spelman College. The association, according to that article, is "MacVicar was named for after Malcolm MacVicar, superintendent of education for the American Baptist Home Mission Society, who served as chancellor of McMaster University before his appointment as superintendent." I'd argue that this is not a "direct association". The American Baptist Home Mission Society sponsored the establishment of the Atlanta Baptist Female Seminary, now Spelman College, in 1881, which was at least six years before MacVicar became superindendent, which we can deduce because he was superintendent after he was chancellor of McMaster, which wasn't established until 1887. cmadler (talk) 13:32, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Possible ALT (needs help with wording): ... that Malcolm MacVicar (pictured) headed five universities, including two of which he was the first head? It's tough to word because they used different titles (though all now call their head "president"): he was called "principal" at three, "chancellor" at one, and "president" at one. cmadler (talk) 21:10, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Iztapalapa, Mexico City

• ... that the borough of Iztapalapa in Mexico City hosts an annual passion play (participant pictured) that attracts 2 million spectators?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 19:29, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Blake Geoffrion from February 26Thelmadatter (talk) 19:39, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Image is fine. Verified article length and expansion. I assume the source for this is #45, but that doesn't appear until a sentence later; it needs to be added directly after the claim. I'm fine with assuming good faith on the Spanish-language source, but I would appreciate someone else taking a look at this article, just due to the sheer length, to make sure there are no other concerns. cmadler (talk) 19:57, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

oops, didnt catch that. The two million number appears in several sources so I put them all after the sentence in question.Thelmadatter (talk) 20:11, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good now, and AGF on Spanish sources. I'd still feel more comfortable if a second person would take a close look at the whole article, just to make sure there aren't any BLP problems lurking, or anything else odd. It's just a big article that deserves a second set of eyes to give it close scrutiny before it hits the main page. cmadler (talk) 21:20, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

St Mary at the Quay Church, Ipswich

• ... that since St Mary at the Quay Church, Ipswich, (pictured) in Suffolk closed for worship, it has been used as headquarters for the Boy's Brigade, and a venue for performing arts?

• Reviewed: Theo Berger

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 14:33, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go with the image.--Mbz1 (talk) 14:59, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Persoonia linearis, Persoonia rigida, Persoonia levis, Persoonia juniperina

• ... that the geebungs of the eastern states of Australia can be narrow-leaved, broad-leaved (pictured), prickly or stiff?

• Comment: hold off reviewing, I am trying to load this one up.... :)

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 13:47, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Gilbert R. Tredway

• ... that the Civil War historian Gilbert R. Tredway refuted the claim that Democrats in his native Indiana were less supportive of the Union war effort than were their Republican neighborw?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 05:27, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed William Isarn

• I cannot verify the hook on a quick reading of one source, nor can I find it in refs 3, 6 or 7 (which is his entire thesis) which all refer to the hook. The article is generally OK and otherwise qualifies, but that's all I can do without more detailed information on where the claim comes from (exact source & page no. etc). If it's an amalgamation, I suggest replacing the hook to one which relates directly to a more easily verifiable factoid. MickMacNee (talk) 18:32, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Hook revised, with Note 8 as the direct source. Thanks for reviewing the article. Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:08, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Chris August, Starry Night (song)

• ... that Chris August's 2010 song "Starry Night" was the first debut single to top the Billboard Christian AC Monitored chart in over three years?

Created by Royalbroil (talk). Self nom at 04:44, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Momchil, United States v. Morris Royalbroil 04:58, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Everything's OK, although I'd just like a second opinion on whether the hook's sourceCMSpin is considered reliable. MickMacNee (talk) 18:49, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Don't Hold Your Breath

• ... that the demo version of "Don't Hold Your Breath" was sung by Timbaland and Keri Hilson, and is distinctly different from the present version released by Nicole Scherzinger?

Created by Lil-unique1 (talk). Self nom at 04:32, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

List of Oakland Athletics first-round draft picks

• ... that four first-round draft picks of the Oakland Athletics have won the Major League Baseball Rookie of the Year Award?

Created by Staxringold (talk). Self nom at 19:15, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Jack Kirrane

• Article length, date, hook fact, and hook length all check out. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 12:47, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Russian battleship Poltava (1712)

• ... that the Russian battleship Poltava (pictured) was designed, built and sometimes commanded by Peter the Great?

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 09:02, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Checks out. Nice 20x expansion. Personally, I prefer the image on the right.--Epeefleche (talk) 13:16, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 4

May 1923 Air Union Farman Goliath crash, August 1923 Air Union Farman Goliath crash

• ... that due to accidents, French airline Air Union lost two Farman F.60 Goliaths during 1923, one in May and another in August?

Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 11:30, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed 1940 Brocklesby mid-air collision. Mjroots (talk) 11:37, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

LSE Libya Links

• ... that Howard Davies, the director of the London School of Economics, resigned due to allegations over the school's links to the Libyan regime?

Created by Erikringmar (talk). Nominated by BorgQueen (talk) at 09:16, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Jemdet Nasr, Jemdet Nasr period

• ... that the 5000-year old settlement of Jemdet Nasr is the type site for the Jemdet Nasr period in ancient Mesopotamia?

• Reviewed: Lernaeocera branchialis
• Comment: double nom; all links to Jemdet Nasr period originally redirected to Jemdet Nasr, I turned it into its own page. Both articles necessarily have some overlap; hope that's ok.

Created by Zoeperkoe (talk). Self nom at 05:56, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Did You Know People Can Fly?

• ... that Did You Know People Can Fly? is the first full-length album by Kaddisfly?

5x expanded by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 05:36, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Note: I reviewed Betty Jane Gorin-Smith. -- Cirt (talk) 05:36, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Penguins–Islanders brawl

• ...that 2011 National Hockey League game between the Pittsburgh Penguins and New York Islanders that featured two separate brawls and set combined penalty minute records for both teams?

• ALT1:...that following a brawl-filled game, team owner and Hockey Hall of Famer Mario Lemieux questioned whether he still wanted to be a part of the National Hockey League?

5x expanded by Leech44 (talk). Self nom at 05:17, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: No. 2 Service Flying Training School RAAF

1997 Central European flood

• ... that 1997 Central European flood was caused by some of the heaviest rains recorded in the world's history?

5x expanded by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 02:47, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Bushy Park Forest Reserve

Frankie & The Heartstrings

• ... that the band Frankie & The Heartstrings met at a calypso night in a Sunderland pub?

Created by Yorkshiresky (talk). Self nom at 20:08, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Bion Barnett

• ... that although Bion Barnett retired from the board of Barnett Bank with 75 years of service, he still reviewed the bank's daily business report every evening?

• Reviewed: Robert W. Naylor ()

5x expanded by Mgreason (talk). Self nom at 17:34, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, and hook are all fine. Great job. Qrsdogg (talk) 05:16, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Robert W. Naylor

• ... that former California Assembly Republican Leader and California Republican Party Chair Robert W. Naylor was editor of The Stanford Daily while he was a student at Stanford University?

• Reviewed: Operation Moolah ()

Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 14:38, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• date, length, hook all check. Mgrē@sŏn 18:26, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

1940 Brocklesby mid-air collision

• ... that on 29 September 1940, two Avro Ansons (pictured) collided in mid-air over Brocklesby, Australia, became locked together in "piggyback" fashion, and then successfully landed in a field?

• Reviewed: Wilhelm Sebastian von Belling

• Comment: Three PD images of this incident -- take your pick! Same rollover/alt as top one works for all...

Created by Ian Rose (talk). Self nom at 14:25, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length fine. AGF on offline sources. Suggest using middle image, which is PD. Mjroots (talk) 11:35, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Josh Jasper

• ... 2010 Consensus College All-American placekicker Josh Jasper kicked a 54-yard field goal when he was in high school?

Created by --Epeefleche (talk) 13:09, 4 March 2011 (UTC) Nominated by --Epeefleche (talk) 13:09, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Russian battleship Poltava

• Article length and date, references and hook all check out. J04n(talk page) 04:44, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Wilhelm Sebastian von Belling

• ... that General Wilhelm Sebastian von Belling prayed to God to grant him "a nice little war that he may better his condition"?

• Reviewed: Leif Rode ()

Created by HerkusMonte (talk). Self nom at 07:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Article length/age and hook length/ref check out -- minor copyedit for rank and quote. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:53, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Bushy Park Forest Reserve

• ... that Bushy Park Forest Reserve, home to giraffe weevils, glowworms, and huhu beetles, also has a kiwi creche and a tree named Ratanui?

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 07:07, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Date, size, ref check out. The article could really use an infobox, and a photo. Also, could you add a WP:ASSESS talk page template? Thanks. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 02:44, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Dana Claxton

To Be Alone with You

• ... that "To Be Alone with You" was the first song Bob Dylan recorded for his 1969 album Nashville Skyline?

• Reviewed: Hillebrandia

Created by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 03:16, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook and referencing check out. Nice article, good to go. --JN466 10:22, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

No. 2 Service Flying Training School RAAF

• ... that the German ancestry and strict discipline of its first commander earned No. 2 Service Flying Training School RAAF (Wirraway trainers pictured) the nickname "Scherger's Concentration Camp"?

• Reviewed: Iulia Olteanu

Created by Ian Rose (talk). Self nom at 00:31, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Date checks out. Off line sources accepted in good faith. Image is in the Australian public domain and has alt text.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Leech44 (talk • contribs) 05:17, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Qiemo Town

• ... that although Qiemo Town is described in documents from the 1st century BCE to the 9th century CE, the ancient site has not yet been discovered in spite of four major expeditions searching for it?

Created by John Hill (talk). Self nom at 09:52, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Ivy Alvarez

Date, length verified and hook accepted offline in good faith. Ooh lovely to see an article on a Chinese township. More please!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:31, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 5

Rangaunu Harbour

• ... that Rangaunu Harbour in New Zealand is a wading bird habitat of international importance?

Created by Dramatic (talk). Self nom at 10:30, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Richard Santagati

• ... that in 2006 Richard Santagati received the third highest salary of any president of a Private college in the United States?

Created by Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 05:49, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Bion Barnett

Now Is the Time (Jeff Lorber Fusion album)

• ... that the Grammy nominated album Now Is the Time features the Blood, Sweat & Tears horn section on two of its tracks?

• Reviewed: Josh Jasper

Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 04:53, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

Do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, please nominate them in the candidate entries section above under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially-timed appearance on the Main Page.

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

March 8 (International Women's Day)

Note: When queuing these DYKs, please bear in mind the different time zones of the geographical regions the articles relate to. It should be possible to queue them in such a way that any articles that are strongly related to a particular geographical region are displayed during waking hours of March 8 in that time zone. --JN466 06:16, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Ivy Alvarez

• ... that award-winning poet and Cardiff resident Ivy Alvarez was born in the Philippines, grew up in Tasmania, has worked in Scotland, Ireland, and Spain, and had her first book published in the US?

Created by DracoEssentialis (talk). Nominated by Jayen466 (talk) at 09:57, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Please move to holding area for International Women's Day (8 March) after review. --JN466 09:58, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: To Be Alone with You

Date, links, length of article and hook all O.K. A well-written, well-referenced, and interesting biography. Good luck! John Hill (talk) 10:03, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Dana Claxton

• ... that First Nations contemporary artist Dana Claxton is a descendant of Sitting Bull?

• Reviewed: All Saints Church, East Horndon

Created by Missvain (talk). Self nom at 04:45, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date (actually March 3rd), hook's ref verified. This DYK could be a worthwhile addition to the March 8 (International Women's Day) section. --Rosiestep (talk) 07:10, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• The sources do not say that she is a descendant of Sitting Bull. They say: "Her family is descended from Sitting Bull's followers". There was also no inline citation immediately following the "fact" as required by DYK rules. I've corrected the article on both issues. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 10:45, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
• ALT1:... that First Nations contemporary artist Dana Claxton is a descendant of Sitting Bull's followers?

Grace Mildmay

• ... that the autobiography of Renaissance medical practitioner Grace Mildmay is one of the earliest by an English woman?

• Reviewed: Emilia Carr ()

Created by Belovedfreak (talk). Self nom at 16:51, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Hook, date, length check out. Excellent referencing. Good to go. --JN466 19:46, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Anne Sharp

• ... that Scottish coloratura soprano Anne Sharp performed in Britten's Albert Herring in both the premiere in 1948 and the first recording?

Created/expanded by Morag Kerr (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 11:05, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length OK. However, some paragraphs lack inline citations. I also don't see the hook fact stated explicitly in the text, though that may be because I don't understand the terminology. I wonder what you think of this alt:
• ALT1: ... that even in her thirties, Scottish coloratura soprano Anne Sharp (pictured) was able to pass as a teenager, performing the role of Emmie Spatchett in Albert Herring at the first Aldeburgh Festival? Yoninah (talk) 17:03, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

• Like it, thank you. I had looked for an online ref and found it for the recording, which refers to the premiere, but the ALT is supported by the pic, smile. It's the author's first article, as far as I know, let's try to help. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:50, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
• Well, only now I realize something happened to the pic, removed "pictured". You saw it, though, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:56, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• Yesterday the image was removed from the article, so I removed it here. Glad you like the alt. However, the article still lacks inline citations on some paragraphs. Yoninah (talk) 10:05, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

To clarify (I didn't make this nomination, but fine), Anne Sharp played the smaller part of Cis in Albert Herring in the premiere, but switched to playing Emmie after only a few performances. She is Emmie in the recording. So it is correct to say she was in both the premiere and the recording (which was a live recording of a performance), but she had different roles. That recording has most of the original cast in it. Morag Kerr (talk) 14:52, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

About the photo. I do not understand why it was deleted. It is a photo which appeared in opera programmes - the little biographies of the cast they have at the back, which are accompanied by photos. I'm not even sure it's "non-free content", but I was trying to be as correct as possible by crediting the photographer. Morag Kerr (talk) 14:52, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• I'm going to go ahead and give a tentative AGF to Yoninah's ALT1 which is sourced to offline Cambridge companion. It would be nice to get some referencing Background and education and Marriage and later life to make this article even more Main Page ready but if a promoting admin wants to WP:IAR to get a new user their first DYK, everything else on this article checks out. Agne/ 23:03, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
  • The Cambridge Companion to Benjamin Britten has Look Inside! activated on amazon.co.uk. The page in question shows a contemporary poster with the cast list for Albert Herring; Anne Sharp is listed as playing Emmie Spatchett, one of the "tiresome village children". (The year indicated is 1948; if she was born in 1916, Sharpe was 31 or 32 then.) --JN466 22:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I appreciate the checking but the AGF tick is more related to the sections of the article that are not referenced at all rather than for the hook source itself (which is fine). Technically leaving those sections unreferenced would make it ineligible for DYK. However, I'm AGFing that the material there is verifiable by the other sources because I would like to see an WP:IAR given for a newbie user with their first DYK. Agne/ 22:49, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

References now found for the "marriage and later life" part. Any suggestions for where to find suitable references for other parts gratefully received. The diploma information was entered by copying directly from the diploma certificates themselves. I can't find any useful lists of alumni, or even birth notices. Morag Kerr (talk) 02:39, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

And by the way, thanks to everyone. Morag Kerr (talk) 02:39, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• This would seem to be a suitable candidate for a main page appearance on International Women's Day (8 March); would the author/nominator be happy to have this transferred to the holding area below? --JN466 21:58, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Fine with nominator, will ask author also, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
    • The author has also said it's fine to use on 8 March. If it's otherwise good to go, please move it to the holding area. --JN466 01:04, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
• I've added a couple of extra references, but still not to the unreferenced sections. I'd appreciate any tips anyone has for where to find suitable references. I have some old programmes of performances (as a soloist with amateur choirs) in Scotland in the 1960s, would that be any use? I don't know how to reference her early life because I can't think what documentation would do it. What usually gets used, lacking a biography? Morag Kerr (talk) 01:31, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
• Oh, and hopefully the problem with the picture has been resolved. In relation to how young she looked, Britten said in his notes for casting Let's Make an Opera! that the part of Juliet had to be taken by an adult soprano "provided, of course, that she can look convincingly youthful" (http://www.brittenpears.org/?page=research/catalogue/detail.html&id=221). In addition, I just got a copy of Elisabeth Parry's autobiography, and in it she reports wanting Anne Sharp for the part of Gretel in her new opera company's first show in 1950, Humperdinck's Hansel and Gretel because, "she was perfect, being petite with fair hair and blue eyes and a very young face". This didn't actually come off though, so I don't know about including it. Morag Kerr (talk) 01:31, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Revived the pic, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:23, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
• Sorry, but I removed the image from the DYK. It is being used in the article under "fair use" and cannot appear anywhere else without a separate fair use rationale, and in this case it cannot be justified. Voceditenore (talk) 19:10, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Voceditenore is correct, unfortunately. It's fine in the article per fair use, but images on the main page have to be free. --JN466 19:35, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Malati Dasi

• ... that a US-born ex-hippie Malati Dasi (pictured), despite fierce opposition, in 1998 became the first international female leader of the Hare Krishna movement?

5x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Cinosaur (talk). Self nom at 15:25, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Caccia Birch House () Cinosaur (talk) 01:14, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Given that this woman has managed to break one of the hardest glass ceilings for women in religious history, if passed, this DYK could be a worthwhile addition to the March 8 (International Women's Day) section. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 15:29, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good on all counts!-- Chienlit (talk) 16:10, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for reviewing. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 18:07, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• The nomination moved to March 8 holding area. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 09:30, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Hikmat Abu Zayd

• ... that Hikmat Abu Zayd (pictured) was the first female cabinet minister in Egypt?

Created by BomBom (talk). Self nom at 22:47, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Request: I think it would be nice if this hook appeared on the Main Page on International Women's Day (8 March). --BomBom (talk) 22:56, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
• Reviewed: Al-Fadl ibn Salih (link) --BomBom (talk) 22:17, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, citation for the hook and the image license look OK. Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 08:14, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Moved to March 8 holding area. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 08:21, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Claire Falkenstein

• ... that a critic described the work of abstract sculptor Claire Falkenstein as "a Jackson Pollock in three dimensions"?

• Reviewed: Al Mar Knives ()

Created by Mandarax (talk). Self nom at 04:08, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:35, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Regarding the geographical note at the top of the International Women's Day section: Claire Falkenstein is strongly associated with California (she lived there for over sixty years), so the queue which runs in Los Angeles from 10 am to 6 pm would be ideal. Thanks. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 10:03, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Orla Kiely

• ... that Irish designer Orla Kiely has had her work featured on a range of Citroën DS3 cars, although she's better known for textiles?

• Reviewed: A Darker Domain

5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 14:01, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go. This would be a good DYK for International Women's Day, on 8 March; it would be nice to have the front page filled with articles celebrating women that day. --JN466 23:35, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Anna Murray-Douglass

• ... that Anna Murray-Douglass helped her future husband, Frederick Douglass, escape slavery by giving him sailor's clothes and a part of her savings?

Created by Jayen466 (talk). Self nom at 23:12, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

This might be a suitable candidate for International Women's Day (March 8th). --JN466 23:30, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Orla Kiely. --JN466 23:37, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• DYK criteria met. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:45, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Moved to March 8 holding area. --JN466 12:25, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Pauline Bebe

• ... that Pauline Bebe was France's first female rabbi?

Created by Genevieve2 (talk). Nominated by Jayjg (talk) at 04:59, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• Note: Author would like this to appear on March 8 (International Women's Day). Jayjg 05:25, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
• Length, date and hook ref all OK. Mikenorton (talk) 22:12, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Rose Catherine Pinkney

• ... that Rose Catherine Pinkney has developed dozens of American television shows, including The X-Files and Girlfriends?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 19:41, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewing: The Batman topic of Batı Raman oil field, Batman, Turkey, Batman Province and Batman River--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:28, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

• This one might be a good DYK for International Women's Day (March 8). Kaldari (talk) 23:12, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

• That is fine by me. Should I move it to that date?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:08, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

• Yes, but after it is reviewed and approved. Thanks! Kaldari (talk) 02:38, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:41, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Despina Storch

• ... that alleged German spy Despina Storch (pictured) was immortalized as "Turkish Delight", "Turkish beauty", and a "modern Cleopatra" in spy literature?

• Reviewed: The Tip-Off

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 21:11, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

• Verified, nice work. Brandmeister t 00:18, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

• Any chance you guys would want to hold this one for International Women's Day (March 8)? There's a holding space for the date in the special occasions section below. Kaldari (talk) 23:06, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

• Yep, no problem. Brandmeister t 08:46, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

• Moved to March 8 holding area. Yoninah (talk) 20:05, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Lorene Cary

• ... that author Lorene Cary (pictured) was the second African American girl accepted at the "elite" St. Paul's boarding school in New Hampshire, and in 1991 published a memoir of her experiences, Black Ice?

Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 04:38, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length and the hook check out. Good to go.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:59, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

• Comment I believe that this article could make a great hook for the March 8 International Women's Day. May it please be moved there? Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 05:55, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

• Moved to March 8 holding area - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:11, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

• With thanks to Mbz1, I've added an image. Drmies (talk) 22:03, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• Image licensing verified. I suggest, however, that the hook be tweaked so that the appositive and antecedent match -- as it is, the antecedent of Black Ice is experiences; maybe .... in 1991 published Black Ice, a memoir of her experiences? --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 01:43, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• I have no problem with that. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 03:29, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

June 19

Rizal Day

• ... that Philippine town of Daet, Camarines Norte was the first place to celebrate Rizal Day with its construction of the first Rizal monument (pictured)?

Created/expanded by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 05:42, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Request: I suggest this appear either on June 19 (Rizal's birth), December 30 (Rizal's execution) or any date from June 15-24 (Daet's Pineapple Festival). –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 05:46, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
• Size and date are fine. However, the hook is unreferenced. There is a reference at the end of a paragraph containing the hook, several sentences in - this is unsatisfactory. Ideally, each sentence should be referenced; at the very least - the hook one should be. The problem is fixable, and once this is solved the article should be a "go" for DYKing. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 05:54, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Please see references nos. 1 and 2. All paragraphs are referenced. It'll be pretty hard to read that thing when every sentence, even the hook, has a citation. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 05:57, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• I don't see why. On the other hand, in the case only a para has a ref, it is impossible to trust anything but the last sentence. Consider what will happen when somebody adds more content to the middle, or moves the current one around. I don't think an article with any unreferenced sentence can become a FA, and GA and DYKs require them for most sentences those days, too. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 07:07, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• You see, that only works if each sentence has a different reference than the previous one (such as FAs and some GAs). If I'd be reusing those two references on every sentence, it's repetitive and unsightly. Where's the DYK rule that every sentence has to be cited? The only relevant rule is rule D2 and it doesn't mention citing every sentence, especially if the entire paragraph is referenced on that/those reference/s.–HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 07:30, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Just for the heck of it, I did just that, citing every sentence in the first section, and it now looks unsightly with those repetitive after every sentence. I know we should be citing and stuff, but this is not the way to do it if there are only a few references. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 07:35, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks. One gets used to that after a while, it is a wiki-necessity. I also asked for clarification of inline citations and DYK rules here. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 08:01, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Common Schools Act of 1871. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 06:00, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Halloween

Rhacophorus vampyrus

• ... that the tadpole of the Vampire flying frog Rhacophorus vampyrus has two fang-like hooks in its mouth?

Created by Newone (talk), Ka Faraq Gatri (talk). Nominated by Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) at 14:59, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment If the article meets DYK criteria, suggest moving it to Special Occasions section and keeping for Halloween. The authors of the paper on which this article is substantially based have stated that they intend to publish a separate paper on the tadpoles of this species so the move would also allow time for any material from this paper (assuming it is published in time) to be incorporated. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 16:56, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

• That's confirmed. I agree that this should be kept for Halloween, especially as "A detailed description of the new tadpole will be published separately." which might be available by October. It's certainly an early start for the Halloween collection, does anyone think it is a problem to save it until then? SmartSE (talk) 23:41, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

SUPPORT waiting till Halloween, esp. if we can get a good, free picture of the scary tadpoles. --PFHLai (talk) 04:06, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I've moved this as there were no objections. If someone wants to make a subpage for it, like we have for April Fools' nominations then feel free. SmartSE (talk) 12:46, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Comment Halloween is just under 10 months away. I can't help thinking that if every vaguely ghoulish or spooky article is saved up that long, it will create a massive backlog (and a precedent for other days). After all, there are only 3-4 sessions of 6 or 7 hooks available for any particular day. Bob talk 22:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Comment I have a raised eyebrow over this. Essentially were promoting an article to DYK, which in over half a year will appear on the main page. Would not this article be substatiannnly different from the one reviewed giving that theres 7+ months between creation and DYK appearance? Ottawa4ever (talk) 15:14, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

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