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not to belabor the point but . . .

what jzg said was, "The Board f Deputies are not rabid Zionists," which i think you are interpreting as "all zionists are rabid." to me it seemed that he was saying that they aren't extremist zionists, but moderates. can you see that interpretation? untwirl(talk) 02:06, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

It's clear what JZG was saying, he also talked about "some sections of the more militant Zionist community have a serious problem with any Jew who dares to speak out against the actions of the state of Israel" blah blah blah, his viewpoints are clear. Drsmoo (talk) 05:21, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

i can see your interpretation, and maybe you have a pre-existing opinion of that editor that makes you sure of his intent, but if he were to say, "not rabid muslims/islamists" or "some sections of the more militant muslim/islamist community . . ." would you assume he was calling all muslims/islamists militant and rabid? there are sections of all religious communities that are fundamentalist or radical. untwirl(talk) 15:07, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, if he were to talk about "rabid muslims" I would think he was anti Muslim, the same when people use words like "Islamofascist" there is certainly bigotry in those words. Drsmoo (talk) 15:09, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Harrasment?

FYI: My experience with Wikiquette alerts, having both made complaints there, and been complained about there: its a waste of time. There is not much harm in trying, but take a look at the current discussions to see what you will be getting into. Malcolm Schosha (talk) 14:58, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

May 2009

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Shamir

Hey, I saw you mentioning moderators' approval in your edit summary. It's truly sad to see the pro-antisemite spirit soar even here on Misplaced Pages. Please point at the aforementioned approval, I'd like to see the discussion. Drone2Gather (talk) 19:15, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

I also salute you for "telling it like it is" on the Gilad Atzmon talk page. Someone really needs to state the obvious around here! Pity that's the Misplaced Pages reality. Drone2Gather (talk) 20:22, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

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		Thank you for your vigorous attempts to fight off the antisemitic consensus (cunningly disguised as WP:Neutral) on Misplaced Pages. Drone2Gather (talk) 20:39, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

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Hi there! In a relevant topic; in recent 3RR report you were involved in, I noticed that there's a bit of a feud between yourself and User:Carolmooredc. Is there anything I can do to help you guys settle your differences? Master of Puppets 05:47, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

I've replied on my talk page. Cheers, Master of Puppets 03:48, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Try not to edit the Atzmon page (as you did here) without passing it by Carol. I know that sounds restrictive, but at this point Carol's asking for you to stop. If you could respect that wish, that would be great. Cheers, m.o.p 17:40, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Also, please self-revert that edit. Thanks. m.o.p 18:18, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Lots of people have been editing the article, do you see anything POV about the edit? Drsmoo (talk) 20:22, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

No, but Carol wasn't comfortable about having it there without her approval. I'm not saying she gets to decide everything that goes in, but it would get problematic if both of you were editing the article while having issues with each others' edits. m.o.p 02:37, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Gilad Atzmon

I wasn't concerned with what you wrote about Carol. I was referring to your description of Atzmon's opinions as "Mein Kampf inspired statements on Judaism". I've deleted it. Feel free to restore a sanitized version of it if you'd like. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 05:18, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm not going to argue with you about it. Comparing people—especially living people—to Nazis on Misplaced Pages talk pages is unacceptable behavior. Read WP:BLP if you don't understand why. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 05:25, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I removed my comments, and I also edited yours. I don't know what part of WP:BLP led you to believe you could call Atzmon a "vicious anti-semite", but I removed it. If you try another stunt like that, I will block you. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 05:42, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Please don't try my patience. You're about one more wisecrack from getting blocked. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 06:00, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

As opposed to the fact that Atzmon is a saxophone player, descriptions and categorizations of his statements are necessarily interpretations (yours, mine, or those of the writer of a newspaper column). Try to stick to facts. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 06:22, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

antisemitism

Just wondering about the antisemitic business on the Atzmon article. I don't think I can edit it due to my topic ban, or even talk about it on talk pages of the article, although the conversation about antisemitism is another issue. Can't one say that many Jews consider him antisemitic as in this article from the Institute for Global Jewish Affairs (which appears to be an offshoot of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs)? Add to this any other Jewish orgs that make the claim. If there are non-Jewish notables that make the claim that would strike me as sufficient, true or not. If people say he is antisemitic that should be sufficient, no? This would avoid the blanket issue of what constitutes antisemitism. Consider the article on Al Sharpton. His views have generated claims of racism that are clearly delineated in the article. We do not use the WP voice to make such a claim but if we have the RS that make the claim then it is a controversy that should be added I would think. Pardon my rambling. Stellarkid (talk) 18:29, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

ANI

Hello Drsmoo. Per WP:ANI#Please ban two users from article Gilad Atzmon you and Carol might be able to arrange a voluntary topic ban from the Gilad Atzmon article for two months. Consider replying at the ANI if you have an opinion on this. EdJohnston (talk) 03:58, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Comments about AN/I

Hello Drsmoo. I wanted to clear up a misunderstanding that seems to have arisen at AN/I. I never suggested that you should be permanently banned from editing all articles on Misplaced Pages.

One other thing: Like you, I have a POV about Atzmon -- but I've never expressed my POV and you don't know what it is. Please AGF and don't blame my actions on my (unknown) POV. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 07:16, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

The AN/I discussion was archived because of inactivity. I've been very busy, and I'm about to go away, so I'm not going to follow up on it any time soon. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 03:56, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

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Question on Atzmon / Duke

Drsmoo -- just to clarify, is it your position that (1) there was no need to create a new subsection for the Duke information, which belongs in the "statements on Jews and Judaism" section, or (2) that the Duke information doesn't belong on the page? Cheers! RT-LAMP (talk) 23:11, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure whether or not it belongs in the article, but I don't think it needs its own section for sure. Drsmoo (talk) 04:14, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi. Could you take a look at my comment on Carol's talk page and answer on my talk page? I intended to pose the same question to both of you, but I'm editing from a cell phone at the moment. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 01:46, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

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FYI Gilad Atzmon BLP

Your additions to the Gilad BLP have been mentioned

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As promised, discussion re your actions now on AN/I. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 22:08, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

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There is no 1RR rule listed as being in place for that article anywhere. Drsmoo (talk) 15:34, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

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