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Hasteur is currently feeling discouraged about Misplaced Pages and is taking an off-and-on wikibreak due to loss of motivation. Your help in cheering this user up would be appreciated. He will return when his wikistress has dissipated and his confidence in the wikicommunity has been restored.

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Welcome to my talk page

I treat my talk page as a top level landing page for all discussion and as such archive stale discussions quickly. If a conversation started elsewhere, I will be watching it. If it starts here I will watch it here. Thanks.

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A slip of the pen

You wrote on the Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Rodhullandemu evidence page 'While caustic and not the expected level of a "trustee"...... '. Did you mean a "trusty". Moriori (talk) 23:38, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

No I meant exactly what I said trustee Hasteur (talk) 01:05, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Interesting. Who/what is he a trustee for? Something I missed? Moriori (talk) 01:09, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

He was entrusted with the keys to the janitor's closet. Hasteur (talk) 01:35, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

That makes him a "trusty", not a "trustee", which is a legal term related to legal trusts. Moriori (talk) 02:03, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

I already explained why

I already explained why. The user keeps wikihounding me which is not a simple content dispute and his 3O requests are used for abusive purposes as it was at White Carphatians in the past. --Nmate (talk) 18:41, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Please provide diffs showing said abusive uses of 3O. It should be noted that I reccomended 3O on this case from the ANI page. Hasteur (talk) 18:47, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

There is no point in continuing discussion with someone, who dedicated in wikihounding and to pick a quarrel with my edits. Once I had reported this user for a violation of 3RR and soon after his interest in editing the article White Carpathians that I had edit just before I filled my 3RR report concerning Iaaasi, "resuscitated". (Nauneim is a confirmed sockpuppet of Iaaasi which was created on the ground that the user was unable to wait until his 3RR block comes to an end). But after the 3RR block had expired, the user also continued editing the article with an abusive 3O request there without having had an interest in editing the article beforehand.Just by checking the edit history of the article Košice out, it plainly looks that the user hadn't had any interest in editing the article before I started to edit it, but shortly afterwards his interest in editing the same artice, enhancely increased and picked a quarrel with my edits there and went to ask for an abusive 3O request forgery, too. So that it is not too surprising that if I am unwilling to accept his 3O request forgeries neither here ,nor anywhere else on Misplaced Pages.--Nmate (talk) 19:17, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

These things happened more than a year ago, when I was still a beginner on WP (Iaaasi (talk) 19:19, 11 March 2011 (UTC))

User:Iaaasi

You may be unaware but user:Iaaasi is a longtime disruptive user who received a large number of blocks at least 13 of them indefinite, just on accounts that were CheckUser confirmed . His harassment of other users via sockpuppets and other means stretches over a time period of over a year. It is highly unlikely that low level DRP processes are of any help at this point. Hobartimus (talk) 18:45, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

That may have been the case. Since the unblock they have (from my viewing of their page) obeyed the rules and procedures. It is my understanding that when a user is released from a unblock that the evidence previously used to block them is not to be used as evidence of past behavior unless it is to demonstrate a substantial long term violation. As such, this issue is over the naming order on a page. Not harrasment, not socking. Please feel free to dis-associate yourself with the previous behavior of the user as it is not germane to the discussion.Hasteur (talk) 18:51, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

That is the case. The user is one of the most disruptive I have ever seen on Misplaced Pages and constantly harasses other users over a period of over a year now. The harassment is extremely troubling and cannot be solved with low level DRP as I have said. It's unhelpful to pretend that the issue is "naming order" when this thing is ongoing since January 2010 with 13 indefinite blocks countless hours of wasted administrator, CheckUser and editor time trying to clean it up... Hobartimus (talk) 19:01, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

I think Hasteur has already realised who is of good faith here (Iaaasi (talk) 19:04, 11 March 2011 (UTC))

Iaaasi you have showed plenty of good faith when you harassed others with sockpuppets that you had no right to create or use, reverting attacking reporting warning(!) others Hobartimus (talk) 19:19, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Please refer to my post unblock activity (Iaaasi (talk) 19:24, 11 March 2011 (UTC))

This flare is over the naming order. I see other sections regarding other things, but for the time being, the issue is the order of alternative language names of the city, as brought by Iaaasi. Yes it would have helped to not inclide the extra baggage, but at the time being that's all I'm seeing. Please feel free to demonstrate with Diffs and explicit connections to show that Iaaasi is continuing a pattern of harrasment since they have been unblocked. Once that's demonstrated, I'm perfectly happy to consider a wider context. Hasteur (talk) 19:13, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I think you put talkback on Nmate's talk page instead of Hobartimus' talk page (Iaaasi (talk) 18:53, 11 March 2011 (UTC))

Yes, one reply for Nmate (above section) and one for Horbartimus (this one). Put 2 replies down first then 2 talkbacks. Hasteur (talk) 18:56, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

However, thanks for involving into the discussion. I hope you will not leave it until reaching a conclusion (Iaaasi (talk) 18:57, 11 March 2011 (UTC))

Power Rangers Samurai articles

I do not know why you have decided to go on a crusade against the creation of these pages. They have been created such that the content on character biographies can be expanded upon without unnecessarily cluttering up the page concerning the television program as a whole. There is nothing in any Misplaced Pages policy anywhere that suggests that these pages are not allowed as they are. I have removed the prod on Samurai Power Rangers and I have responded to your AFD of Villains in Power Rangers Samurai.

Again, your proposed deletions have no merit in notability policy as far as I am aware. Every series has these pages, and there is nothing against having such character lists as much as you believe. It's only a content fork now because the information has been on Power Rangers Samurai since before its premiere, but these pages are going to evolve into unique articles.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 18:09, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

I am not on a crusade against these articles, I am applying the rules that Misplaced Pages requires. I will be putting the Samurai Power Rangers up for deletion as it does not improve on the already specified article. Hasteur (talk) 18:16, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

It's only a stub that has been recently created. There's no deadline so why do you think these pages need to be deleted now?—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 18:29, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Stubs are still required to be reliably sourced and have a reasonable likelihood to be useful. Again, please look at "View 1" of WP:DEADLINE. Right now there is noting in those articles that is not already covered in the main Power Rangers Samurai article. We don't fragment before the articles need it. If, in the future, there's so much content on the series page that it makes sense to split the character and villian descriptions that's ok. But for right now all it does is duplicate the content that is already here. Hasteur (talk) 18:41, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Lists of characters have in a past been given a certain leeway. And if this information is kept on the series page then it is never going to be expanded upon because the egular editor is not going to want to build up on such information where it is not featured on other articles.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 18:58, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

You probably could have also just overwritten Rtkat3's edits on the AFD page instead of making it a second nom. I'm gonna see if anyone wouldn't mind merging the pages.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 23:44, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Nothing in the thread on WP:AN has anything to do with you directly. Just because I mention you does not mean I have to notify you that I am requesting some janitorial assistance. Get off of your fucking high horse already.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 19:10, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

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