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Jtdirl (FearEireann) is taking a short wikibreak and will be back on Misplaced Pages very soon. Other commitments mean I have to scale back my Misplaced Pages involvement for a short time. I may however be on occasionally.

Some sockpuppets (Full disclosure)

I created a few "impostor" accounts of your signature since noone else had and I suspect it's more vulnerable then your actuall usrname. I haven't done anything with them and and waiting for them to be blocked as impostors. 68.39.174.238 01:22, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

who are you

I was looking for informatiom on the red fox. How did you get my address.

Wikibreak

Enjoy your break. Hope you come back soon. :) Prsgoddess187 19:34, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Your talk page is usually so fascinating. I have no idea what I'll do with my free Misplaced Pages time any more. Hurry back! ℬastique▼♥♑ 01:38, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Diana, Princess of Wales

I wouldn't like to see her moved. She wasn't really a consort -- the title "Diana, Princess of Wales", is a made-up one for her unique circumstances, ie. a divorced former consort. A further complication is that she was "Lady Diana Spencer" from birth, so it would be quaint to put her at plain "Diana Spencer", but the highest title she ever held was not "Lady". Therefore I would vote to keep the article where it is (which is where I originally put it, for the reasons I've just stated).

Sorry, my mistake, she wasn't "Lady" from birth, but I think the point still stands. Deb 20:56, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

I think that it should be at "Diana Spencer" as a deceased royal consort. We could turn 'Diana, PoW" and "Princess Diana" into redirects. Would it be possible to list her as Honourable Diana Spencer as that is the title she was born with? I would support a move to her maiden name, let me know when and where. Prsgoddess187 02:52, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

When raised previously, I was for keeping her where she is now. However as I have made many moves to pre-marital titles myself since then, it would be logical for me to support a move to Diana Spencer. She has been dead for over 8 years now, and apart from the Daily Express, she isn't really in the public eye any more. Astrotrain 19:14, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

howdy

I hear you loud and clear, i'm not into that sort of thing. Just writing articles and editing them. By the rules, always by the rules.Jonah Ayers 22:11, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Popes and antipopes revisited

Hi, Jtdirl. I'm just going to bed now, so this is a very quick note to alert you to discussion going on here. (Scroll down to "What happened with the anti-pope stubs? What happens now?") I wasn't happy with the original deletion, but I am happy now. Hope you are as well, but thought I should let you know about it anyway. Slán. AnnH 02:17, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Ingrid of Sweden

Hello. I realize that I erred when changing "Princess Ingrid of Sweden" to "Queen Ingrid of Denmark" without removing the title as I should have. But shouldn't she be known as "Ingrid of Denmark", since Ingrid's highest ranking and ranking title was as queen consort (and later queen mother) of Denmark? Regards. — JonRoma 05:05, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

AOL problems when blocking vandals and trolls.

On a Wiki break and still blocking people? Please be aware that when you are fighting vandals who use AOL, you also end up blocking other users. This has been an ongoing problem for me. For a history, please see my use page User:WBardwin/AOL Block Collection. This problem has serious implications for building the encylopedia -- for example, my watch list has a lot of vandalism tonight, and I am not the only user impacted. Please release the block as soon as possible. Relevant information below. WBardwin 06:38, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Your IP address is 207.200.116.14. Please include this address, along with your username (if you are a registered user), in any queries you make. Your user name or IP address has been blocked by User:Jtdirl. The reason given is: Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Jmk56". The reason given for Jmk56's block is: "legal threat".

None the less -- the block keeps me from monitoring my watch list, removing vandalism and doing contstructive editing. And your vandal will simply move on to the next IP number. Productive software, huh. Oh, well. Thanks for your efforts. Good night to all. WBardwin 06:54, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, I read for about an hour and loaded the dishwasher. Your fifteen minute block is still in effect. I would appreciate it if you could revert back to my last edit on Elizabeth Cady Stanton at least -- two successive vandals. Hopefully, I'll be able to edit over the weekend. Best wishes and good luck on your problem editor. However, I don't think there is anything actionable about threatening legal action. WBardwin 08:25, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Minor wiki syntax fix (or page deletion) requested

Hi Jtdirl,

As the person responsible for Franz Josef of Austria/temp style test, can I please ask that you either change this line of that article from this:

When World War I erupted, Austria-Hungary fought in alliance with Germany, but the [[Austro-Hungarian Army
]] proved ill-prepared and ill-equipped.

To this (i.e. no linebreak):

When World War I erupted, Austria-Hungary fought in alliance with Germany, but the ] proved ill-prepared and ill-equipped.

Alternatively, can you please add a {{db|page was a test that is no longer required}} to the top of the page?

Reason for this is that it has the above minor wiki syntax error, but the page has been locked (thus preventing that error from being fixed), so either of the above changes will get it off of the radar for the Wiki Syntax project.

-- All the best, Nickj (t) 11:04, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

British and Irish Lions

It is not accurate to say that the IRFU are dissociating themselves with the term 'Home Nations'. They use it on their home page to refer to themselves, it is in the archive of past discussions on the talk page.GordyB 13:48, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Aidan Work

Hi. I saw that you blocked him indefinetly, despite the fact that he was blocked for 31 hours for his last edits (on january 19th). Although I'm not going to ask you to lift the block, or to have any other admin do the same, I feel that it might have been a bit harsh to block him twice for the same vandalism. Although he probably won't stop his povpushing or personal attacks, I feel that it would have been fair to wait until he commits more personal attacks/vandalism, and then block him. As he don't seem to respond on any attempts to contact him on his talkpage, I've emailed him in an attempt to see if anything can be done to resolve the situation, although I feel this is highly unlikely to succeed. Bjelleklang - talk 14:22, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Your block of Aidan Work

Thanks for letting me know. I have no objection to your block. I was pretty close to doing it myself, but I thought maybe I could get through to him. (Sigh.) I just don't understand how someone could be around here for that long and still be so wrong about what Misplaced Pages is about. FreplySpang (talk) 14:38, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Lions

Please keep an eye on the Brit Lions page, the imperialist types are all over it.--MacRusgail 20:04, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Redirecting to England

Yes, the redirect to England "vandal" is back, here to teach you to STOP undoing my redirects.Jedneck 22:48, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism continues

I don't know if you taken a look at the user from 70.182.219.158, but this user has been vandalizing articles, wikistalking, vandalizing talk pages, and make libelous accusations for months. Just look at the contribs page: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:Contributions&target=70.182.219.158 Corax 23:26, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

British monarch infobox

I've designed an infobox template for British monarchs based on a combination of the hand-coded ones already in place (see for example Victoria of the United Kingdom) and Template:Infobox PM. The template code is located at User:Mackensen/Infobox UK Royal, while an example of what it would produce is at User:Mackensen/PeerBox. I would appreciate any input you might have. Mackensen (talk) 15:45, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

von leading to an edit war

You seem to be involved with matters of aristocracy and royalty, so I'll give it a stretch and ask you this: What is your stance on the use of von with English titles? E.g. Prince Alfred von Auersperg. A user called Thesaunterer is editing it to Prince Alfred von Auersperg saying that it is the proper title on Sunny von Bülow. The proper title is Prince Alfred of Auersperg or Alfred Prinz von Auersperg, not a mix of both. I say the misuse is analagous to the use of "Princess Diana" as a back up. However, said user keeps on editing it back. I *can* understand Alfred von Auersperg, but when used in conjunction with the full title and style, I have it back to His Serene Highness Prince Alfred of Auersperg. It is not merely a surname in that essence. I am not well-versed in dealing with such users as I've only encountered people like them once before. Thanks. Charles 18:00, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

LOL

That Merkey nut, aka permanently banned abuser, stalker and all round nutcase User:Gadugi, now has named me as part of his smear campaign on his website. According to him

This individual is an internet stalker and cyber-terrorist who resides in The Country of Ireland. He is an Admin and editor of Misplaced Pages, and who uses Misplaced Pages to advocate the overthrow of the US Government and the removal from office of promient US Politicians. He posts hate speech directed against the leaders of the United States. He is a sexual deviant associated with the writings of NAMBLA (North America Man/Boy Love Association), an organization that advocates the rape of young boys, and who stalks Misplaced Pages and routinely violates the Constitutional Rights of United States Citizens. He is a columnist and writer for various right wing Irish Publications.

Cyper-terrorist? An "advocate the overthrow of the US Government and the removal from office of promient (sic) US Politicians"? That is hilarious. As for that NAMBLA rubbish — mindboggling. All I did was stop him posting propaganda and revert vandalism!!! Zeech. The nutcases you find on the net. The only thing true in the above is that I am an "Admin and editor of Misplaced Pages and Irish!!! LOL FearÉIREANN\ 00:37, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

From all American editors, to all Irish editors: Please stop violating the Constitutional Rights of United States Citizens, particularly our sacred Third Amendment rights. It's against the law to advocate to remove any U.S. politicians now in power, and we know what country you live in. We've had enough and if you don't stop we'll have to form a posse comitatus, and drive right over and whup your asses. So there. -Will Beback 12:18, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Since the USA's leaders routinely advocate (and instigate) the overthrowing of other governments, including democratically elected ones, I think we can take that one with a pinch of salt! 83.70.72.217 08:59, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Most Noble

For anyone interested in defining future policy on this subject in a definitive way I have instigated a debate here at Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style (biographies)#The Most Noble Giano | talk 10:39, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

User:Jmk56

I'm inclined to unblock this editor, as he has rescinded his legal threat on my talk page. Thoughts? I try not to unblock editors other admins have blocked without asking first. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 17:32, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

• Ah well. I decided to unblock him rather than wait. Hopefully he'll behave. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 15:46, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Rosario again

Hi! Look, i dont know if you're around, but if you are... Vote here please: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Rosario Poidimani (3 nomination). This guy is really trying to make fun of us all. By the way, just out of curiosity: what does the Queen has written in her passport: HM The Queen, or her name? Cheers and all the best, muriel@pt 13:18, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Does the Queen even need a passport? I would think her retinue would be sufficient for anyone who might be confused as to who she is... ℬastique▼♥♑ 13:40, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your npoving of pretender article. I try so hard not to delete this bs entirely, so I made just the bare basic for minimum decency of the article. Of course the usual defender of this virtualy unknown "pretender" will strike back. I guess its either him (the pretender) or someone very close. Or may be its just a joke. --BBird 22:28, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Is there an admin in the house

The article €2 commemorative coins is under concerted attack. Can it be protected? --Red King 00:26, 28 January 2006 (UTC) Problem dealt with. --Red King 00:34, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:LouisXIV_crown.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:LouisXIV_crown.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Misplaced Pages because of copyright law (see Misplaced Pages's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Misplaced Pages are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Misplaced Pages:Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this: {{TemplateName}}.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact Carnildo or ask for help at Misplaced Pages talk:Image copyright tags. Thank you.

Insertion of photos

Could I enlist your assistance in inserting photos in an assortment of articles having to do with the District of Assiniboia (pre-1905) and the province of Saskatchewan (post 1905)? The photos are on the University of Saskatchewan library website and are long past their copyright date. The articles...well, I can tell you and you can take me by the hand, or you can just instruct me and I can take it from there. At present, alas, I don't have the editing skills necessary to insert them in their proper places. I ask you because you have intervened in the past in respect of certain of my offerings but with a degree of common courtesy that appears, alas, often to be somewhat lacking. Kind regards. Masalai 08:05, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Since you asked

I figure if I could give Aaron a trout, I can do no less in your case... Administer as necessary. Hope that helps! ++Lar: t/c 03:47, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Paul Martin

Paul Martin is nolonger PM as of Jan 24. 2006 Michaelm

Provisional IRA

Hi, Could you help me out on the Provisional IRA page? Some anonymous user keeps adding information that the IRA was funded and armed by the USSR, the Irish American mob and the Russian mafia. On top of that, he keeps deleting references to the Shankill bomb of 1993. He also keeps adding misleading information on the extent of the IRA's campaign against loyalists adn the British army, Eg, "an expert assasination campaign forced the loyalist to call a ceasfire", as well as mixing up time periods, dates and facts. Thanks, Jdorney 12:51, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Manual of Style change

I'd be interested in any comments that you might have on Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style (biographies)#Proposed change to Honorific prefixes. Best, Mackensen (talk) 18:49, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

3 revert rule

Hi Jtdirl,

Could you please refrain from reverting the page again? I've just blocked Anonymous editor for violating the 3RR and you're on your 3rd revert already... (got to be impartial here ;-) -- ChrisO 19:38, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Hey what did you mean by amerocentrism? It was a story about Poland. :-) --a.n.o.n.y.m 19:52, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Sean T. O'Kelly

I am enquiring, why did you remove the fact tag from the sentence (but had been forced out in 1915 after the IRB infiltrated the League). This claim is put as fact without any reference. The article's sources do not mention this at all.

I also would like your thoughts on just removing the phase as it is irrelevant to the article. If anybody can back it up, they can place it in Douglas Hyde's article. ant_ie 23:08, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Block of User:129.118.7.146

Hi. I'm curious about your block of this user. First you gave him a warning on his talk page, than a few minutes later, you went back and blocked him. What made you change your mind? -- RoySmith (talk) 17:34, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Irish community in Britain Blatant POV

Hi, Could you help cleaning up the Irish community in Britain article? Especially the Scotland section, as there is some very bad POV in it, thanks. Superdude99 21:31, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Dates of birth and death

Jtdirl said: Please don't add in locations of birth and death in the opening brackets for dates of birth and death. That is not the agreed format and everywhere they are added in they will simply have to be taken out. The agreed format to be used is (<date month> <year>–<date month year) or mm dd if necessary, for someone who is dead, and (born <ddmm> <year>) for someone who is alive. Other information is not but in that set of brackets.

This is something I stopped doing a long while ago. I apologize if I have inadvertently done this, and thank you for catching it. Bobo. 04:21, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

The Nation

I don't expect everyone to agree with me all the time, but it's discouraging that someone with your level of experience is pursuing the disagreement in so heavy-handed a fashion.

Before your initial move, The Nation was the location of the article about the U.S. periodical. I suggested that we restore that status quo ante, following which you could present and argue for your proposed change at Misplaced Pages:Requested moves. You haven't adopted that method. You also haven't explained why you think incessant unilateral reverting is a preferable procedure. In fact, you generally haven't seen fit to discuss the issue on the talk page at all, except when someone on the other side undoes your disputed move. You certainly give the appearance that you hope to prevail through sheer persistence rather than through rational discussion.

In the interest of the civil resolution of disputes, I request that you restore the article to its prior location. You can then list it on WP:RM, a page that exists for the precise purpose of handling such issues. JamesMLane t c 05:59, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

You should be ashamed

I thought better of you in times past. Participating in the Misplaced Pages "Counter Vandalism Unit". I can't think of anything better designed to encourage childish trolling than that. I would have thought you'd be fighting against it, not encouraging it. --The Cunctator 07:55, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Argh, I hate when they're reference-less. El_C 08:05, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

All this seems to be right now is a personal attack. If this has merit (which I doubt) then let us know what is going on. Prsgoddess187 12:49, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

What has been going on is simple. Where a term has an internationally understood meaning it obviously has an entitlement to have the page of that name, with other localised meanings related to a disambigulation page, eg the French capital at Paris, the Italian capital at Rome, etc. In the case of The Nation there is no one international meaning. Many states have or have had national publications of that name, some of them very famous. No one publication is known widely outside its own region; in fact many are largely unknown outside their own country. The Nation was created as a disambigulation page to deal with all publications. However some US users unilaterally changed that to make the main page devoted to their local publication and shunted all the other publications to another disambigulation page. Then links were made to their publication and they even claimed that their publication as the biggest, even though it is largely unknown outside the US and even relatively unknown in much of the US, was of course entitled to own the main page and more important than the the newspaper of the same name in Pakistan, the paper of the same name in Thailand, the historic UK publication of the same name, the famous nineteenth century Irish newspaper of that name, and large numbers of other publications of that name, all of whom are being added one by one by international users.

All I did was return The Nation to being a link to the disamb page. I sought to move some of the links to that page from US articles directly to the US page. However that is unacceptable to some US users who insist that their original unilateral move must be the way the page is, and their publication is more important and the meaning of the name more people on the planet think of than any other. Try telling that to the tens of millions internationally who think of other publications, or the billions (inclusions hundreds of millions in the US) who have never heard of the US publication. FearÉIREANN\ 21:29, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

• Your explanation makes sense to me. If the title of The Nation is used by more than one publication, and each is INTERNATIONALLY no more well known that the other, it should link to a disambiguation page. Gotta stand behind you on this one. Well done.  :) Prsgoddess187 21:34, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

As you may have seem, I too support the move of The Nation to an disambiguation page and liked what you wrote to justify your vote. We need some more supporters to bring a concensus for the disambiguation viewpoint. I hope that view prevails as too often the volume of US-centric veiws can dominate too often. ww2censor 04:47, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Your use of language on Talk:George W. Bush

Hi, while I take your point that you wish I would engage in anti-vandalism activity on the George W. Bush article, you way of expressing that opinion is extremely uncivil and in my opinion amounts to a personal attack. To wit:

• Oh Gawd, has Tony started this crap again? How many times must users say no before he realises that no means no. This page is not his personal plaything to try experiments
• Frankly Tony's antics here, where he unprotects the page and then disappears and leaves it to others to deal with the aftermath of his experiments, are getting to be a right pain in the butt.
• Every time Tony plays his unprotection games other have to pick the pieces and undo the mess his gaming creates

These attacks are unacceptable. Please stop.

The article does not belong to either of us; neither of us is obliged to remove vandalism from it. I considered whether I should remove vandalism during the periods of unprotection, but decided that the risk that my participation would skew the figures would be too great, and it was better just to take my hands off the switch and permit events to unfold without influence from me.

On your belief that this is just one guy in favor of unprotecting regularly and not listening to many others telling him to stop, this is incorrect. You and User:Brian0918 are asking me to stop. User:MONGO, User:Lord Voldemort, and others have expressed support for regular unprotection. In discussions on 7 January, User:Flcelloguy, User:kizzle, User:Splash, User:Greg Asche, User:Antandrus, and (with reservations) User:Voice of All all expressed support for unprotecting the article now and then to test the water. --Tony Sidaway 12:09, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Jp1.jpg

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Irish Republican Army - moved despite no-consensus ruling

LP moved Irish Republican Army to Irish Republican Army (1917-1922) despite a clear ruling on 25/12/2005 to the effect that there was no consensus for such a move. Could you put on your Admin hat and revert the vandalism, please? --Red King 00:00, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Formatting userboxes

Hi, Jtdirl. I know you're good at formatting templates and boxes, etc., and I wondered if you'd be able to help me. I'm not completely happy with the linguist userbox on my userpage. I generally steal my userboxes from elsewhere, and then delete the words that are there and add my own words. I couldn't think of a suitable image to have in the part on the left, so I thought I'd write the first syllable, "ling" in phonetic script:

''''''

which comes out as: (which is what I want).

I tried putting that into the userbox, and checked it with preview, and it messed up the boxes completely. So now I've gone back to using a standard "i" in the userbox, in between "l" and "ŋ". Any ideas? Thanks. AnnH 00:39, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Pinfo templates

Hi! I just discovered the {{Pinfo4}} and {{Pinfo5}} templates, and I wanted to let you know how much I appreciate your creating them. As someone who's faced a lot of harassment on Misplaced Pages, I've become very aware of the difficulties we have making sure the harassment policy is enforced and it's great to see steps being taken in the right direction. Thanks. - AdelaMae 05:58, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Diffuse community

You stated on WP:AN:

• "As WP gets bigger it becomes less manageable, less governable and less of a small community."
• "CENTRALISING POWER IN ORGANICALLY EVOLVING ORGANISATIONS: THE WIKIPEDIA EXAMPLE"

Note now, that the current community is very DIFFUSE!

• Image:Articles_distinct.png
• Image:Articles_distinct_histo.png

Counting vandalism and minor edits, of our articles:

• 67.20% have been edited by fewer than 10 distinct Users/IPs.
• 86.07% have been edited by fewer than 20 distinct Users/IPs.
• 91.90% have been edited by fewer than 30 distinct Users/IPs.
• 99.21% have been edited by fewer than 150 distinct Users/IPs.

See also the histogram.

Apparently the wiki has a natural tendency to self-segment and keep things locally "small-community" sized.

I suggest that the few exceptions (something like 200 pages) should be treated as pathological, rather than the rule.

Knowing this, I believe that neither of your above statements are correct or practical because:

• Misplaced Pages self-segments into many small and managable communities. As it grows, the number of pathological cases will statistically increse ((random chance of becoming pathological)*(more pages)), certainly, but this is not indicative of an inherent breakdown in the system, which seems to have scaled quite well.
• Centralising power in a situation where so much of it is currently still devolved would be a monumental change in the way the wiki is run. Basically it would be easier to start over.

Kim Bruning 21:26, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Dublin City Hall

Could your picture of Dublin City Hall be used instead of the present one, which is only a drawing rather than a picture?--Play Brian Moore 00:12, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Different problem, The Nation

Hello! I notice you have a strong Irish Bias wrt "The Nation". Would you consider letting someone else review the situation and make a neutral descision? :-)

Kim Bruning 00:59, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

The issue of what article should be at this title has been placed on Misplaced Pages:Requested moves. You can offer your vote and comment here: Talk:The Nation#Article title. JamesMLane t c 06:44, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

The Nation, again

Someone moved the US page back to The Nation and it's now up for discussion at Talk:The Nation#Article title. Please call over and make your case. Stifle 11:47, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Lapsed Pacifist

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Lapsed Pacifist. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Lapsed Pacifist/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Lapsed Pacifist/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --Tony Sidaway 17:44, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

MICHAEL COLLINS

That damn category again! Will you stop adding it. It is pointless listing people by religion.

If that WERE the case then why are there listings of people by religion (Episcopalian, Lutheran, Methodist, Mormon, Jewish, Roman Catholic, Scientologist, etc)?

Why are there categories like Catholic Wikipedians??

65.88.88.214 19:07, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Check this out...

Take a look at this . Two different people have butchered the name of the talk page. Any thing you can do to fix, I saw that you had corrected the article name. Thanks, :) Prsgoddess187 18:15, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Voting etiquette

Jtdirl, you may want to look over Misplaced Pages:Straw_polls#Voting_etiquette in regards to requesting that other editors take part in the poll at Talk:The Nation. --Howrealisreal 23:00, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

heya

Did you really mean this?

"Not a chance in hell. If you want an article on a US topic, put it on a US page. Don't be so arrogant as to presume that all the world regards The Nation as meaning an American publication. Attempts to highjack a page to push americocentrism will simply be treated as vandalism."

That seems a little, I dunno, strident (I don't care strongly about the issue at hand, just surprised by the vehemence of your tone--though I've been known to take hardline stances in my day too!). How is everything, by the way? Good to see you're still plugging away. I just pop in now and again these days. Makes one feel like Rip Van Winkle. --User At Work 21:51, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Heredital Titles of former Royalty

I move the comment you left at Talk:Constantine II of Greece here for the shake of clarity. --Michalis Famelis 00:41, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

You misunderstand. States don't grant monarchical titles. Monarchs do. But monarchs do so with state authority. It is a two-fold process. However titles like prince and princess are different. Each member of a royal family is not given the title prince or princess. They do so by being born the son or daughter of a prince (not princess, BTW, in most states.) General precedent in both republics and monarchies if that such hereditary titles are presumed to carry on even if a monarchy is abolished. New titles cannot be created (or if attempted have no legal standing) but existing hereditary ones are treated as continuing. When Chancellor Kohl met the pretender to the German throne, for example, he referred to him as Prince Louis Ferdinand and called him "Royal Highness" even though the German monarchy was abolished back in the time of Louis Ferdinand's grandfather. (I think from memory that Kaiser Wilhelm II was his grandfather.) Similarly the crown prince of the defunct throne of Italy, can be called Prince of Naples but he could never be called Prince of Piedmont because his father, Umberto II, never awarded him the title while on the throne and could not do so after the monarchy's abolition. So unless the Italian monarchy is recreated (unlikely, since the House of Savoy is regarded as an embarrassing bunch of egotistical misfits even by many Italian royalists) there never will be another Prince of Piedmont. But there will be generations of Italian princes, who are so because they are born to a prince who was born to a prince who was . . .

Similarly if the British monarchy was abolished tomorrow, there never would be another Prince of Wales, as Prince of Wales is a creation and could not be done by a non-reigning monarch. But there would be other Dukes of Cornwall because that is a hereditary title that continues and does not have to be recreated.

Phillipos is a prince because his father was a king. His children in turn will be a prince. However he will never be able to be given a title by his father because his father lost the legal ability to do that in 1973 when the monarchy was abolished. The issue is simply that the Greek government tried, contrary to international tradition, to say that all hereditary princely titles are abolished too. Legally governments can't do that as a princedom is a matter of inheritance, not creation, and carries with it no legal rights in the absence of a monarchy. The French government in the nineteenth century also tried to unilaterally abolish royal titles. The response of the worldwide community to them, and to the Greeks, was the same: "oi. You cannot do that. We all follow the same set of rules on this. No one state can try to change them." So while France in the 19th century and Greece in the late twentieth century went ballistic over it, the world still called the descendants of French royals and of Napoleon Prince and still calls the kids of the exiled Greek king Prince and Princess. Eventually France shup up about its attempt to abolish French titles and quietly accepted they did exist and could continue to exist.

All Misplaced Pages does is follow the same definitions as the rest of the world: prince is an inherited title held by the son of a prince. The Prince's children are called Princess. To ignore world usage and follow the usage of one government (followed for politically motived reasons) would be POV. To follow the same rules as everyone else is standard. We are not the puppets of individual governments but simply follow standard international usage here as on other things. Governments come and go. International law and conventions tends to be more steady and continuous and less motivated by current political opportunism or the agendas of individual politicians or governments. FearÉIREANN\(caint) 23:52, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

The above analysis raises some interesting theoretical questions and if you are interested I would be happy to discuss with you, in a theoretical, not a "wikipedia guideline" perspective.

Monarchy, is a way of government. Heredital titles are a way for monarchies to establish a distinct class of nobility. Nobility in itself is a formation of a particular kind of society constituency. The question is, does a change in the constituency of society towards a republican or other more liberal constitutions affect the nobility? Politically the obvious answer is yes, the nobility no longer has the political power it did. But the idea that a society changes its formation to another, means that the social aspects of nobility are also important. If society no longer believes that there is any kind of Divine Right to obey the king or the nobles, should society still recognize nobility titles? Nobility titles were granted by society to certain families when a Social contract was made between society and the said families. If society deems the contract invalid, does not society have the right to revoke those titles it granted?

Is it true that "No one state can try to change them"?? If the latter is true, then this idea can be easily extended to the denial that a state can change anything. And even more that the people cannot change anything. Is this not a deeply conservative idea, an idea that brings us back to the era of Metternich and the Holy Alliance?? But even without talking politically, is it still true in a constitutional way? (by constitutional I mean "the way society was constituted, formed a social contract") If we agree that there is no divine justification of monarchy, is it not true that political and social power comes from the people, from society itself, which has the right to decide what can be changed and what cannot?

And lastly, on the aftermath of a major social change, as is the abolition of monarchy and nobility, does not this call for political equality require that former nobility lose those social priviledges that guaranteed them political and social superiority?

I would be happy to hear your views on the above. Please excuse my lack of good expression. English is not my native language and although I am used to having theoretical discussions, I usually carry them out in Greek, the language of Dialogue and Reason (please allow me this mild form of chauvinism!). Fare well and happy WikiBreak! --Michalis Famelis 00:41, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Image Copyright Help

Hi Jtdirl, I was wondering if you could help with the copyright status of this picture Image:Flyingcolumn westcork-DB668.JPG or could add a fair use rationale to it (I think you uploaded it but I am no expert). I think its an evocative pic and wanted to use it in Arthur Ernest Percival to offset the British military pics but the WP:FAC process has suggested the copyright status is not clear enough

thanks Nickhk

Irish Wikipedians' notice board

I was adding a move request to the Irish Wikipedians' notice board of the Lighthouses in the Republic of Ireland to Lighthouses in Ireland and being impetuous, I corrected your misspelling of disambiguation in your previous note. I believe I am not supposed to modify other users work but hope you don't mind. My spell check picked it up and I am sure you would want it spelled correctly but I just hit correct; twice!!!! BTW, it looks like The Nation page will not be moved despite what I believe are flawed reasons by several of the opponents. Cheers ww2censor 05:23, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Done. I hope I got it right. if not please tell me and assist. Thanks ww2censor 18:53, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Rv Provo page

Hi would you mind reverting the Provisional IRA page for me? My browser keeps losing the end of the article. This arshole keeps writing crap and reverting what everyone else is writing. I would not have a problem incorporating some of the figures he wants to cite if I believed he was honest and cited his sources and was prepared to leave the inforamtion other people wrote as well instead of deleting it. is there some sort of arbitration process we can use in situations like these? Jdorney 13:23, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Template:IrishSport

Please stop reverting this template without comment or discussion. The images are not fair use in this context, and its large clumsy appearance has already drawn comments on its talk page, and the talk page for Ireland. ed g2s • talk 14:18, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

your message about Nation

hi there, sorry only got to your message now, my server is down so it's difficult for me at the moment. Yes, I totally agree with you on that topic, although my opinion does not matter anymore at the moment since the vote has closed. Keep me posted if you need anything else... with kind regards Gryffindor 15:56, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Template:Infobox UKkingstyles

Someone decided to change the image from St Edward's Crown to Austrian Imperial Crown image stating "replacing Crown Copyright image with free-use image". I've reverted for now, but the copyright paranoia brigade may be back. Astrotrain 22:32, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

That was me. The image is considered fair use; it's perfectly acceptable for articles about crowns but best not to be used in other contexts. If you could replace the one on your user page with a free image, such as this one, the copyright paranoia brigade would greatly appreciate it. Thank you. Chick Bowen 23:58, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

You said on my talk page that I am incorrect--actually, I haven't asserted anything about the image's copyright status, right or wrong. I'm trying to broker a compromise in a long-running dispute (only because Image:Kingcrown.jpg was listed at WP:CP), and I think if we just restrict the image to articles and use something else for the (very small) image in the template, we can all forget about it. If that won't work, then the various parties will have to work something else out, and I'll wait for it to come around to CP again. Thanks again. Chick Bowen 00:30, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Insertion of photos follow-up

Thanks a million. What I would like to be able to do is insert public domain postcard views dating from the turn of the 20th century of the Qu'Appelle Valley and assorted, mostly extremely moribund towns of the region, in the articles which I have created or expanded on this extremely lovely (but economically stagnant) part of Canada. The site which contains the photos is http://library.usask.ca/spcoll/postcardsquappelle/views.html and the articles which could benefit from such illustration include inter alia Qu'Appelle, Fort Qu'Appelle, Qu'Appelle Valley, Indian Head. How do I go about doing this? Thanks again. Masalai 10:30, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

UK and recognition of Eire

Following your comment on the Macedonian issue. I was under the impression that London does (did) not recognise the country under the name 'Eire' which, apparently, is why it is (was) not in official use at the EU or UN. Is that the case? Where can I find relevant information? thanks Politis 14:57, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Re your comments (retrieved from Demiurge)

UK dating

I'll keep an eye on it. Even though I am in the US, dating the UK way is the usual way. Thanks for the tip. Prsgoddess187 01:52, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

WP:SIG

Hi Jtdirl,

It was recently brought to my attention that my signature included Image:uk_indian.svg, thereby violating WP:SIG. I'd never even heard of it, but there you go. Anyway, just giving you a heads up - no images in sigs!

Cheers, DJR (Talk) 23:15, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Re: Anne Lawrence, née Windsor

"Née" means "born." She was born Windsor. She became Mountbatten-Windsor in due course but that doesn't change the fact that she was born Windsor. Masalai 02:29, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

As I say, née means "born." Anne was not born "Mountbatten-Windsor"; she was born "Windsor." It is not appropriate to issue ex cathedra pronouncements as to what "Anne's maiden name is generally presumed to be." It is a question of what it is. Further, it is not appropriate to issue ex cathedra pronouncements as to what "It is standard to use née]"] to mean the family name as existing in teenage and adulthood, not a name changed by legal means many many years before." It is of course appropriate to cite authority for such pronouncements. Masalai 03:11, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Bill Clinton

Hi, can I ask, in accordance with your userbox on your user page, if you have actually met Bill Clinton? I noticed that it is not an actual template "template", but since you seem to be fairly interested in American politics I just have to ask! Thanks, -_LIMA 22:07, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Lapsed Pacifist

Hello, this arbitration case which you are involved in has not had any evidence added to it. Please corroborate your claim(s) with evidence on the evidence subpage, or else the case cannot be completed. Thanks. Johnleemk | Talk 04:52, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

User:64.12.116.198

Saw your note on this AOL IP's page: Because of consistent vandalism by some users of this page, and a series of final warnings, all vandalism from this page will be instantly followed by a block. FearÉIREANN 23:26, 22 November 2005 (UTC) A user from that IP address deleted the references from La Princesse de Clèves yesterday: It's completely up to you whether you want to slap a block on it; I'm just bringing it to your attention. | Klaw ¡digame! 22:23, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Grand Ducal Consorts

Hi Jtdirl,

I have started a discussion here, to try to sort out the titles of articles for Grand Ducal consorts. Would love to have your opinion. Thanks, Prsgoddess187 02:38, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Dates

Hi Jt, do you know anything about User:Rms125a@hotmail.com changing date formats? He's going around changing American style to British style, against the MoS, and saying that you asked him to do it. SlimVirgin 22:49, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I have to say that I've always written mm/dd/yyyy no matter where I've lived, whether in Europe or elsewhere, so I know this form is used all over the world, and I can't imagine why anyone would be puzzled by it. The MoS says that styles shouldn't be changed unless there's very good reason to e.g. British English in articles about Britain, but that otherwise the style used by the first major contributor should be used. Also, Canada is in the Commonwealth and uses mm/dd/yyyy. Finally, people who care a lot about this can change their date preferences, so there's no need to edit the pages. The problem with what Rms is doing is that he's changing the formats in a way that is close to trolling e.g. here, where he changed to the British format in David Byrne, who was raised, has lived, and worked in the U.S., and who is an American, just because he happened to be born in Scotland. I find that silly, bordering on offensive. If you could have a word with him and explain what the MoS says, it would be much appreciated. SlimVirgin 01:33, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Hey there

I just wanted to remind you that rollback should be used for reverting vandalism. My edit here was not vandalism. I don't fault you because it was me being reverted (I know you meant well, no hard feelings at all), I just thought I'd remind you about the purpose of rollback. Thanks. See you around, my friend. --LV 05:17, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

No worries. I know how editing from a bad connection can be frustrating. And yes I understand about the Bush opening. While I disagree with you on some of the lesser points, your general analysis is correct. See ya. --LV 22:46, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Also, HAPPY WIKIBIRTHDAY!!! Sorry I didn't notice before. Hopefully you will be around in another 4 years! Cheers. --LV 22:48, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

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Styles

I had omitted it at the time because I thought the language about legitimate discussion made it obvious that said infoboxes were okay. But if they're being removed I guess we have to spell it out. I've updated the Manual of Style accordingly--this shouldn't be a controversial change. Mackensen (talk) 15:44, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Date formats

Please show me any page that links to the WP policy for date formats which you left in my talk page. It seems to me that User:Rms125a@hotmail.com changed to British date formats in some articles. As I know that the English Misplaced Pages mostly uses the British date formats in these systems, other than US articles, it may be true. The English Misplaced Pages uses the British time zone either. Thank you for letting me know. adnghiem501 (talk) 21:25, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

linking on ITN re: Dublin riot

No. The Ulster Unionist Party wasn't involved. It wasn't a party political thing. In so far as there was any political allegiance, it was more Democratic Unionist Party than UUP. Thanks for the changes, BTW. I'm on a crap internet link right now that keeps crashing and forcing me to reboot my computer. So I end up having to save what I think are right links rather than do edit summaries to check. Every time I try that the system crashes and I lose the edit completely. So much for technology!!! FearÉIREANN\ 05:29, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick reply on Template talk:In the news and on my talkpage. I thought it was the Ulster Unionist Party because 2006 Dublin Republican riots#Background states '"Love Ulster" is a Unionist organisation...' and links to the party's page (a redirect, though). BTW, I linked to Irish Republicanism because I wasn't ready to point fingers. Are you okay with the link change on ITN to Republican Sinn Féin from Continuity Irish Republican Army ? Please change as you see fit.... Hope your system cooperates. :-) -- PFHLai 05:44, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Yup. 100% correct. I couldn't remember what that IRA's Sinn Fein was called. I've been working on my own book all night and I guess my brain is half-dead. (Well actually I've been working on my own book, doing stuff on WP and playing Sim City, while watching a film!!!) At nearly 6am I really should be in bed by now. See you tomorrow, and good work on the ITN page. FearÉIREANN\

Thank you for your kind words. You are doing very well, too. I'm amazed how much you can multitask. :-) Sweet dreams. -- PFHLai 06:06, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Nick Adams

May I ask you, as third party, to have a look at the Nick Adams article. There is an edit war going on, as User:Ted Wilkes and User:Wyss, who are both placed on probation (see and ), are still removing my contributions. I think that I have written a well-balanced paragraph on the rumors about Adams's homosexual leanings which is supported by several independent sources (see and ). My opponents try to denigrate these sources. Perhaps you can help. Onefortyone 21:14, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your intervention. Just a question. Could it be that the anonymous IP 24.148.51.62 is identical with Ted Wilkes? It is very interesting that this IP has now deleted the same paragraph Ted Wilkes had removed. See and . See also the list of contributions which proves that this IP repeatedly deleted edits relating to Presley's sexual relationships, as Ted Wilkes did in the past. Onefortyone 02:50, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Some additional information. On the User talk:Fred Bauder page, Ted Wilkes falsely accused me of distortions, though I am always citing my sources. He repeatedly called me a "convicted liar", which is certainly a personal attack. He has written about me:

Frankly, as one of the top, if not THE top, quality article creators at Misplaced Pages, I am tired of the tolerance shown a convicted liar ... I will continue to edit any of his distortions and/or fabrications in accordance with Misplaced Pages policy as they occur. See .

This means that Wilkes is showing no discernment as far as his own misguided behavior is concerned, and that he will continue edit warring with me in violation of his Misplaced Pages probation. To my mind, this is unacceptable. It should be noted in this connection that there is much evidence that Wilkes is identical with multi-hardbanned User:DW. For the facts supporting this view, see . As the arbcom members are too busy doing other things, some administrators should keep an eye on the activities of Ted Wilkes. Onefortyone 13:43, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

re:Ulster (disambiguation)

Will do, i had not had it on the radar before. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 00:59, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

It pisses me off to know end, my ancestors are from both parts. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 01:02, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Jtdirl - thank you for your partial apology on Djegan's talk page. I would appreciate that you could discuss issues much more civilly with me, rather than instantly jumping to assumptions about my intentions. I find there to be several problems with your analysis around Ulster (disambiguation), and hope that we can have a more intelligent debate of the issues at hand, rather than jumping to an agressive slagging match.

As for the moment, I have used up my 3 reverts so will not revert again tonight (damn, this stupid site is addictive! we need to get lives ;) ). I would however, hope you can discuss your points on this issue, without getting so agressive (I see you admit you have a habit :D ). I have some points about your reply that I think you ought to think about, but will make them at a more civil time and at a later date when I have more time. Jonto 02:09, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Irish neutrality

Would you mind taking a look at this edit for me, it does not seem to be entielry correct ant a bit povish?. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 07:38, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Onefortyone (Editor on Probation)

See: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Onefortyone/Proposed decision

• Onefortyone's conviction for lying and using improper sources means that he is showing no discernment as far as his own misguided behavior is concerned, and that he will continue these types of edits in violation of his Misplaced Pages probation. To my mind, this is unacceptable. It should be noted in this connection that the evidence provided in his ArbCom conviction showed his anonymous edits as "80.141.etc" included petty vandalism. Given his obsession and history of fabrications, because the arbcom members are too busy doing other things, some administrators should keep an eye on the activities of Onefortyone.

- Ted Wilkes 17:31, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Ted Wilkes has again violated his probation. He is still calling me a liar. This is certainly a personal attack. He has deleted some passages concerning Adams's supposed homosexuality and an external link from the Nick Adams page, although he is banned from making any edit related to a person's alleged homosexuality or bisexuality. See and . See also his aggressive behavior on the Talk:Nick Adams page. Onefortyone 19:11, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

I have two things to say.

• While I agree User:Ted Wilkes has violated his ban, Onefortyone is also violating his probation with all these dubious edits to the sexuality section of the article. I humbly suggest that both be given clear warnings to cease and desist from any sort of editing in the article for now and that neither be blocked unless it becomes necessary as a preventative step to enforce the existing ruling (which I strongly disagree with but respect in terms of process).

• I think the RfAr should be re-opened, there is much to discuss and resolve. The last RfAr has not worked. Wyss 19:44, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

2006 Dublin Street Riots

I figured out why Charlie Bird was called an "Orange Bastard": Re: Charlie Bird Don't you all understand, Charlie Bird was attacked because his surname is quite non-Gaelic, and he may have been mistaken for British or even, horrors, a Protestant. After all only British Protestants can belong to the Orange Order. Just, of course, as only Irish Catholics can belong to the Ancient Order of Hibernians, that charmingly ecumenical association.

I just confirmed that Charlie Bird IS a Protestant (Hun, don't you Irish Catholics call his ilk) b/c he attended Sandymount High School, and no Catholic would/could do that. He's a Proddy, and the IRSP/Republican Sinn Fein could tell immediately. That explains that.

24.136.99.194 04:03, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Time covers

Well i saw that you made a responce on the matter at the rfc. I dont know if you happened to catch , but an image was removed and deleated from an article that i would guess we both watch, Seán Lemass. First off while i do agree a review of images is warented, the "summary excution" of images, whith out any discussion on it's fair use or fair dealing, while their is a discussion underway on the policy is unwarnted, i am also not a fan od the pne person decision, with respect to the great laeder, if we are supposed to be a "community" the ruling of one user without and real discussion from the communit as a whole, in which i do not belive their is ever, is also unwarnted and ill-advised. I am not going to go on a rant, but just figure i give some of my own opinion. Anyway, this image is image:Seanlemass.jpg, i was tempted to re-upload it, but i figure i get a opinion first. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 08:47, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

User 24.136.99.194 and dates

Hi. There is a user who is currently going around Misplaced Pages converting all the dates he sees to Day Month format from Month Day format despite the fact that the preferences in your session will alter it accordingly. This user is also delinking links throughout these articles that should remain. The reason I'm contacting you is that he is signing a lot of his justification for these date changes as "int'l nominals required (European subject matter) as per Administrator "Jtdirl"" and therefore using you for his justification. He will not respond to comments on his talk page about this and some of his edits, such as the delinking of valid links, are just vandalism. Any chance you can have a look and if necessary take some action as he's not listening to us lowly users. Ben W Bell 08:49, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

New user Danny B.

It is very interesting that a relatively new user has deleted exactly those passages from the Nick Adams article which support the view that Adams had homosexual leanings and reverted the Elvis and Me article to exactly the version preferred by Ted Wilkes. Could it be that User:Danny B. is related to, or identical with, Ted Wilkes? See and . Onefortyone 20:14, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

It is certainly no coincidence that both Danny B. and Ted Wilkes contributed to the following Misplaced Pages articles: , , , , , , , , , etc. Their editing interests are very similar. Onefortyone 03:51, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

John Bosco

• I juest removed your last edit to that page. I agree that the page is a tad syrupy - but that has nothing to do with the text you inserted. If you read here Talk:Saint John Bosco#Refutation of the sources, you'll see that I refuted the sources of that text you inserted. Before it goes back in it should have better documentation.evrik 20:26, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Queen consorts- style boxes

I've had to revert another attempt to remove the style boxes from the Queen consort articles (Victoria Eugenie of Battenberg). This time by User:Mais_oui!, who seems to like causing edit wars judging by his recent behaviour. Astrotrain 23:18, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

User:Rms125a@hotmail.com at it again

This time he tried to falsify a comment made by you, to support his sectarian assumption that Charlie Bird is a Protestant (because he went to Sandymount High School, which according to Robert must be a Protestant school, because all Catholic schools have "Saint" or "Christian Brothers" or "National" in their name ). I feel this user's abusive behaviour has gone unchecked for far too long and would appreciate your advice on how best to proceed. An RfC or an RfAr? Demiurge 23:13, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

August Kubizek

May I ask you, as third party, to have a look at the August Kubizek article. There is an edit war going on and User:Wyss, who has been placed on probation with her friend (See: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Wilkes, Wyss and Onefortyone/Proposed decision#Ted Wilkes and Wyss banned from making homosexuality/bisexuality edits) is still removing my contributions. I think that I have written well-balanced information on Kubizek's homosexual leanings which is supported by several independent sources (see historian and University of Bremen professor Dr. Lothar Machtan and noted Viennese historian Dr. Brigitte Hamann). Wyss trys to denigrate these sources, calling them "codswallop" and "tabloid style material". Perhaps you can help. Karl Schalike 18:58, 3 March 2006 (UTC)