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April 4

Naming of article

Should the word Final in 2011 Cricket World Cup Final start with a lower case or upper case? My interpretation of WP:MOS suggests it should be lower case. However, many cricket and FIFA Final articles like 2010 FIFA World Cup Final all have upper case. Thanks! --Jovian Eye _talk 01:25, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

See also Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (capitalization). If all of "2011 Cricket World Cup Final" is considered a proper noun then I think it should be "Final". If only "2011 Cricket World Cup" is considered a proper noun, and "final" is just an addition, then I think it should be "final". I don't follow cricket but I consider a FIFA World Cup Final an event by itself with upper case "Final" looking appropriate, like all articles in Category:FIFA World Cup Finals. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:51, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Cricket finals don't have their own category but all 10 finals linked in {{Cricket World Cup}} are upper case. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:54, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

World cup final would be lower case since it does not refer to a specific event; 2011 Cricket World Cup Final is a specific event thus capitalized. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  02:30, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I guess that answers my question. Jovian Eye _talk 04:34, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Problem with signature

It seems that whenever I sign my posts with the standard four tildes, my username is not linked in blue and instead appears as plain text. Moments later, the SineBot or one like it fixes it to "The Proceeding Unsigned Comment...". It should happen here, seeing as I will only submit this after previewing the result. Bbqsauce13 02:42, 4 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bbqsauce13 (talk • contribs)

And there it is. I really don't understand it. If anyone could help, it would be highly appreciated. Bbqsauce13 02:44, 4 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bbqsauce13 (talk • contribs)

In Special:Preferences be sure that "Treat the above as wiki markup" is not checked. —teb728 t c 02:50, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Ah, that would seem to be the problem. I'm not quite sure how that happened, to be honest. Thank you for your help. Bbqsauce13 (talk) 02:53, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Creating a button

Anyone have some code to make some clickable text take the form of a button (but without using <inputbox> which is no good for my purposes)?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:00, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Simplest way would be to use an image with the |link= parameter. You really need to tell us more. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  03:05, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

Click for a sausage:  ? —using just ]  Chzz  ►  03:06, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Ha, not that kind of button! A button like this one:

More specifically, I want to make the following link appear as a button and still work:Click here to contest this speedy deletion.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:15, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

How about something like Click here to contest this speedy deletion? —teb728 t c 03:43, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Good suggestion. I've used it and it's definitely better than just plain text.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:00, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I made one; just screen-grab, crop, upload. (ie File:Button contest speedy.png) - it won't resize or anything though. If you wanted that, you'd have to use css styles, I guess.  Chzz  ►  04:49, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Amazing effort Chzz but I don't know how to make that work with the intended link above. i.e.,

<center>''']'''</center>

does not produce a working link.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:07, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

{{#tag:imagemap|
Image:Button contest speedy.png
default 
desc none
}}

 Chzz  ►  05:25, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

You rock.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:44, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Mind if you guys let me try this one? Thanks. E Wing (talk) 04:26, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Dentistry -- Inactive??

Someone has listed this project as inactive since Nov 2010, but article talk page assessment boxes have only recently featured "this is now inactive," and when I deleted the tag from the project page, the "inactive" boxes have not reverted. Please help. DRosenbach 04:31, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

To change the talk page assessment boxes, you need to undo the last edit to Template:WikiProject Dentistry. It may then take a few hours for the change to ripple through to all the talk pages. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:55, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanx! DRosenbach 11:38, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Simon Gales

I have tried to add the artists website as an external link as it has the series of "Focus/Unfocus" works that directly apply to the last paragraph of the article. I have had permission from him to do this and even to upload one of the Focus/Unfocus "Equator" images into the text (though I would prefer to do the latter later when I have read more about the rules concerning it).

Selag (talk) 05:40, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

For some reason, when you tried to add it, you also changed other parts of the page - adding ''Italic text'' and changing a section heading .

That is why your edits were reverted.

I have now added the external link .  Chzz  ►  05:45, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Editing

Madam, Sir, On the Misplaced Pages page on "Gavrilo Princip" <http://en.wikipedia.org/Gavrilo_Princip>, his religion is described as "(none) Atheist". This is not thoroughly accepted and is offensive to atheists.

While trying to edit to correct it, I could not.

Therrefore I request for technical help.

Many thanks

RoyalHumanist —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.62.84.169 (talk) 06:52, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I have changed the information box to match the book quote more closely. To edit the information box you can click the "Edit" link at the very top, where it says "Read / Edit / History" -- John of Reading (talk) 07:03, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

calibri font

Could you advise if one could have a letter prior to 2007 in a times roman font and have it printed out in 2007 in a calibri font (Inadvertently) Regards

Jpeg101 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.184.161.227 (talk) 08:13, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Misplaced Pages. Please consider asking this question at the Computing reference desk. They specialize in answering computer questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Misplaced Pages, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Misplaced Pages for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. —teb728 t c 08:39, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

What do you mean by frequency of a circuit?

Frequency generally means number of oscillations per second.But how is it related to a circuit? I would be very much thankful if i get a brief explanation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mindreader007 (talk • contribs) 08:54, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Misplaced Pages. Please consider asking this question at the Science reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Misplaced Pages, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Misplaced Pages for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:57, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Reading a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike article

what should ido to read a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.88.72.128 (talk) 11:39, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I am not sure if I really understand your question. I guess you are talking about a Misplaced Pages article. Everything on Misplaced Pages is free to read. There arte no special requirements to read something here on Misplaced Pages. If this doesn't answer your question, please feel free to ask again. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 11:50, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Problems with reference desk (and other) pages

Per this, this and this, there are persistent problems with Reference Desk pages (and some other pages) being incorrectly edit-protected and/or out of date by several days. I haven't seen any indication that anyone in a position to address this problem is aware of it or looking at it, so I thought I'd mention it here too in case anyone cares... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.184.104.111 (talk) 11:51, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I think it's already been mentioned at the technical section of the Village Pump. – ukexpat (talk) 15:57, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

The third of the OP's links is to VPT. Unfortunately no one is responding there. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:06, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Fair use of non-free book pages on Misplaced Pages

What is the right place to start a discussion in order to reach a community consensus on the following problem: I think that per § 107 of US copyright law the use of low-resolution images of book pages or parts thereof for identification and critical commentary on the book or its contents on the English-language Misplaced Pages, hosted on servers in the United States by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation, qualifies as fair use under United States copyright law. The current community consensus seems to be that images of book covers may be used for identification of a specific book. I don't think there is a consensus on the use of scanned pages from inside a book. Where can I start a discussion in order to reach a community consensus on this? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:34, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

If you are asking about specific applications of Misplaced Pages's fair use policy, located at Misplaced Pages:Non-free content, then you should ask those questions at Misplaced Pages:Media copyright questions. If you are looking to institute a change to said policy, then you may want to ask at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (policy). --Jayron32 13:52, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Jayron. I will bring the question up on Village pump. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:00, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Disappearing Messages

When I go to my watchlist, there are messages at the top of page. They disappear before I can read them.

Please what do I need to do to get them to stay visible? I'm sure there must be a setting for this but I can't find it in settings. Thanks, Wanderer57 (talk) 15:35, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

The only way I know to get those messages back is to delete any browser cookies you have from "en.wikipedia.org". This worked for me just now. You will have to log in again after deleting the cookies. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:50, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

...but I've just realised that you can also read them if you change your browser settings temporarily to disable JavaScript. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:54, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Removal of "nofootnotes" and "Orphan" status.

I saw this added to the top of my article "A. J. Casson Award": This article includes a list of references, related reading or external links, but its sources remain unclear because it lacks inline citations. Please improve this article by introducing more precise citations where appropriate. (April 2011)

I added the inline citations. Can I remove this "nofootnotes" myself now please?

Also, I hope I resolved the "orphan" issue as there are now 2 articles that link to the one in mention. How does that go away? Can I remove this as well? The Criteria section of Misplaced Pages help states: One or two incoming links may be sufficient as long as they are relevant.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artisforme (talk • contribs) 16:18, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

If you believe you have resolved the issues with the article, you may remove the tags. Also, just to make a minor correction, it is not "your" article. It is Misplaced Pages's article. See WP:OWN. --Jayron32 16:33, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

The templates on top of the page do not go away automatically. They are usually removed by an editor, if the issues they point out have been addressed. However in this case I think the templates are appropriate. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:39, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Interesting, I didn't get an e/c message here. I am curious why. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:42, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Jayron32 - I am new to this and will not refer to it as "my article". Thank you Toshio - is there any reason why I can not remove the tags? I have two different opinions here. Who can do this? I am not sure who to ask. You mentioned "in this case the templates are appropriate". I believe the issues have been resolved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artisforme (talk • contribs) 17:32, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I've removed the tags: the "no footnotes" tag no longer applies, and any editor who thinks the referencing still needs improving could add a tag more suitable for the current version of the article, e.g. "More footnotes" or "refimprove". The article is no longer an orphan by the usual rule-of-thumb, since it is now linked from 3 other articles. To answer your question Artisforme, yes, you may remove tags like these yourself if you feel the issues have been resolved, but if another editor feels the tag removal was premature they may reinstate the tags. In cases where tag removal may be controversial it might be best to discuss it on the article's talk page first, but I don't think that's necessary in this case, so I just went ahead and removed the tags. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 19:08, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I appreciate your help! Nice to see the tags gone. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artisforme (talk • contribs) 13:48, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Cannot move page over redirect

After a discussion on City of Bradford the consensus was to move to City of Bradford Metropolitan District. I cannot do this because it says the page exists. It is only a redirect page and I have done this successfully before. It has been on the list of requested moves for a while. Why can't I move it and what should i do? -- Q Chris (talk) 16:42, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I guess the redirect page would have to be deleted before the article can be moved. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:45, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

You can list the page at Misplaced Pages:Requested moves and have the people there take a look at it. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:49, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

It has been listed there for some time. As I have said I have moved articles over redirects before, and I can't delete a page as I am not an admin -- Q Chris (talk) 16:59, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

This one needs to be posted at Misplaced Pages:Requested moves because the redirect has more than one entry in its history - see WP:MOR. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:03, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I blanked the talk page then moved it.

Whoa! You've moved it to City of Bradford Metropolitan District) with a trailing round bracket. Better wait for an admin to sort this one out... -- John of Reading (talk) 17:10, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Ooops. sorry. Now moved it to have a . on the end - still wrong but better until an admin can sort it. -- Q Chris (talk) 17:14, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

For future reference, I believe what you could have done is tag the redirect with {{db-move}} (explaining and linking to the move discussion in the template), wait for an admin to delete it, and then perform the move. Deor (talk) 02:49, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Semi protected pages and Internet Explorer 8

I've just updated to Internet Explorer 8 and discovered an interesting little quirk - I can't edit semi-protected pages. When I open a page the cursor appears for a split second then vanishes and the text box is locked. Attempting to type produces no response, other than to scroll down with the space bar. I can type into the page summery box, however. Has anyone else encountered this? Is there a fix for it? Cheers TheRetroGuy (talk) 16:57, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

The tech section of the Village Pump is the best place to ask this. – ukexpat (talk) 17:17, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I just tried IE8 with a non-admin account and have no problems editing a semi-protected page. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  17:36, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Will repost at the Village Pump. Don't know why it's started doing this. I have no problems with Firefox or Google Chrome. If it can't be fixed I guess I'll just have to change my browser. Cheers TheRetroGuy (talk) 18:12, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Editing another editor's talk page comments

According to WP:Etiquette: "editing another editor's signed talk page comments is generally frowned upon, even if the edit merely corrects spelling or grammar." If I catch an editor deleting their previous comment (for the purposes of hiding that fact that he was using profanity in that comment) am I allowed to revert it, as I believe it should remain a matter of the public record? 99.231.176.65 (talk) 17:34, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Editing or deleting ones own comments is generally permissible, but frowned up on as it can make a discussion hard to follow. The generally agreed practice is to redact problematic comments, see WP:REDACT. However there are a couple of non-issues here, firstly profanity is not strictly speaking against the rules as long as it's not a personal attack or intentionally uncivil, secondly, the comments themselves are still visible in the page's history, so they're not really removing it from public record, only admins or oversighters can do so. Rehevkor ✉ 17:53, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

From WP:TPO Simply deleting others' comments on your talk page is permitted, so removing one's own comments from your user talk page is permitted in this instance. However, it is frowned upon to edit others' comments on talk pages not your own.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 18:09, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

ArcAngel: they were on an article talk page, not a user talk page 99.231.176.65 (talk) 18:59, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

99.231, you are going to have to point us to the specific instance you are talking about; since speaking in vague terms is unlikely to be helpful. There's too many posibilities to say whether the specific event you had in mind is good or bad or indifferent. We can't speak in general terms in a way that will be reasonably accurate to a specific situation. --Jayron32 19:51, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

How soon after did they delete the comment? They may have realized they made a mistake and self-reverted. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. No, you should not revert it back. If you're filing a report to ANI, just link to the diff. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 19:55, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

what is the best way to introduce a "reliable source" in an article?

Dear Help Desk

Where do you insert a "reliable source" into an article that has been marked as "needs reliable source"? Should I put it in the beginning of the article? At the persons name? What's best? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobeejay (talk • contribs) 18:35, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Whichever part needs the source (everything that may be disputed needs sources, particularly when it's about a person). See WP:REFB for referencing help. Zakhalesh (talk) 18:38, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Magic words for first character?

I'm looking for a way to do a certain operation with templates and I can't quite figure it out. If someone can help me that would be great; otherwise, is there a better place to ask?

Given an expression (say in {{{1}}}), return the expression without an initial minus sign.

What I'm trying to avoid is {{#expr:abs({{{1}}})}} which would turn "-1/2" into "0.5" rather than "1/2".

Ideally I'd be able to distinguish between

• Literal negative numbers
• Expressions that evaluate to negative numbers
  • ...of the form -foo
  • ...of some other form
• All other expressions

CRGreathouse (t | c) 20:04, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I found the village pump (technical) where I have asked this question. CRGreathouse (t | c) 20:55, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Editing page as an authority

Hello! I work for an organization whose page on Misplaced Pages is outdated. I would like to edit the page with information that cannot be changed, or edit the page as an authority--is this possible? Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.14.228.137 (talk) 21:17, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

You are free to update and expand upon the article, but make sure the information is neutral and well sourced. Other people will still be able to edit the article, however. See, WP:OWN. BurtAlert (talk) 21:22, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

It is important that you also read WP:COI and WP:ORGFAQ before doing this. Not only are you not an authority for that page, there are few people less appropriate than you to edit it.

Having said that, if there is information that you think should be updated, you are very welcome to explain this (and your connection with the subject) on the article's talk page, with the independent reliable sources in which one can verify the information. --ColinFine (talk) 21:39, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

When you speak of yourself as an authority, perhaps you mean you have information which is not published elsewhere. But Misplaced Pages has a policy of not including information unless it can be verified from published reliable sources. —teb728 t c 22:09, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

William Styron

The article on William Styron does not mention that he received the Pulitzer Prize 1968 for his novel "The Confessions of Nat Turner". Can someone update this article (as I am not interested in being an editor). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.126.224.125 (talk) 22:19, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Do you have a reference? Like...a newspaper article, or in a book, or something? If so, please put all details here - title, date, page, author, etc. - that's what we need; a reliable source. Thanks!  Chzz  ►  22:21, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Please ignore my previous comment. Styron's Pulitzer is mentioned, but not prominently. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.126.224.125 (talk) 22:35, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

The Lord of the Rings (theatre)

Anyone have any idea why the image is not showing up in the infobox? I can't see anything wrong with the syntax and Wicked (musical) uses the same infobox template and is showing it's image just fine. Exxolon (talk) 22:43, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Looks like the "image_size" is required, it is filled in on Wicked, although incorrectly. Rehevkor ✉ 22:48, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks - added that info to the template parameter notes. Exxolon (talk) 22:53, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

April 5

Properly create infobox?

I've never created an article from scratch and usually copy from others to help myself. But I can't get the hang of this "infobox" thing. Here's the code I have (please use edit to view code in its entirety)

So far, only Name through Occupation are showing. (Showing on right) The others refuse to show up in the infobox. What am I doing wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hg3300 (talk • contribs) 04:45, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

In the first place I removed the image, for non-free images may not be used except in articles. (They may not be use in user pages either.) In reply to your question: So far as I know labelx and datax are not recognized parameters for {{Infobox person}}. See the template for valid parameters. —teb728 t c 06:55, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

If you want full control over the fields, try using {{Infobox}} rather than {{Infobox person}}. I have fixed a syntax error by adding a missing curly bracket, both in your post here and on your user page. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:21, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Corrected the template for you - As TEB728 already mentioned, you cannot use non recognized parameters for a template. To counter that i switched the "info person" to a plain "Infobox" and renamed the parameters to support all the content. Another issue was that you lacked a { in the template, causing it to come back partly garbled. Another option - if you really wish to use "Infobox person" is to use its module parameter to create a sub-template inside it, that holds the non supported data. Excirial 07:23, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

This has been quite helpful. Thanks.--Hg3300 (talk) 08:17, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

County Court page

On this page reference is made to 'fast tack' and 'multi track' cases which exceed the County Court small claims limit of £5000. It would be very useful if these terms had links which explain the procedures involved, especially with regard to 'litigant in person' situations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.72.198.85 (talk) 11:05, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

A better place to raise your concerns is at Talk:County Court. This is ther dicussion page for that article. Editors that follow work on the article will have a better ability to address your concerns. GB fan (talk) 11:47, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

following archived sections

Hi, I should know this by now but have never worked it out. Is it possible when I leave a link to a thread to keep that thread the target of the link even if it is archived by a bot or by anyone for that matter? Off2riorob (talk) 11:57, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

You can use "Permanent link" in the Toolbox and then click the section in the TOC and copy the url. But if new posts are added to the thread after you clicked Permanent link then they will not be shown. It is not possible to both include newer posts and make the link immune to archiving. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:15, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

So ... if I post this link on someones talkpage Misplaced Pages:Help desk#following archived sections it will be archived in the next few days and I can't get this link to follow any archiving. {{sectionfollow|Misplaced Pages:Help desk#following archived sections}} - would be a possibility? Off2riorob (talk) 12:32, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

A section follow template would be possible only if you were able to factor in all the various archiving methods of bots archiving. In other words, it'll be quite expansive for a single template to understand the archiving methods of different bots on different pages. For example, on this page, the link Misplaced Pages:Help desk/Archives/2011 April 5#following archived sections is the link that you should be providing once this page gets archived. Of course, the best method is to provide the permanent link method, as quoted by PrimeHunter already. Does that answer your query well? Wifione _....... 13:33, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

The link Misplaced Pages:Help desk#following archived sections will not work after the section is archived. There is no Template:sectionfollow so I'm not sure what you mean by that. Pages are archived in different ways so there is no solution which would work on all pages, but if you can predict the name of an archive page then you can link to it. For example, one of these links should work both before and after archiving: Misplaced Pages:Help desk#following archived sections or Misplaced Pages:Help desk/Archives/2011 April 5#following archived sections. You can also use mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions##ifexist to check whether the archive exists and only link to it in that case, but it's more complicated. ] renders as Misplaced Pages:Help desk/Archives/2011 April 5#following archived sections and will change the link when the archive is created. "Permanent link" is in the toolbox at the left side in the default Vector skin. If I click Permanent link and then the section heading in the TOC then I currently get the url http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Help_desk&oldid=422508351#following_archived_sections in my browser address bar. You can copy this url and use it to refer to the section as it looked at that time. It will not include this reply because I clicked Permanent link before saving the reply. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:43, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks both for your detailed replies. I will have a good read of these links. It seem I was looking for a simple solution to a complicated situation. Template:sectionfollow was just my simple suggestion. It does seem possible although you need to be sure of the archive the section will move to and as PrimeHunter said, complicated, using the extension PH mentions, #ifexist. I will experiment with that, many thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 14:46, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

help with password

Hi, my username is Jeremy706 and I can't get logged into my account. Here is the link to my page User:Jeremy706. I couldn't remember exactly what my password was and when i tried to email thing, it turns out I had an old email listed on my account and I have a new one that I never did add. Please help me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.17.243.30 (talk) 12:38, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

If you no longer have access to the old e-mail account, the only thing you can do is create a new account and then perhaps usurp your old user name. – ukexpat (talk) 12:48, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Rodney Davies (author)

Dear Sirs,

Further to my email I have attached the link below for your ease.

I have not received a reply from your goodselves to date.

LINK: http://en.wikipedia.org/Rodney_Davies_%28author%29

I await to hear from you soon.

Best regards,

Maksim

Email sent on 1 April 2011:

Dear Sirs,

Sorry, but work has prevented me from contacting you before now about the article of mine entitled 'Rodney Davies (Author)'.

Its presently invisible subtitle is 'An Outline of This Writer's Works', which explains what it is meant to do. I have long admired Rodney's books, which deal with esoteric matters in a clear, informative and interesting way. I was stimulated to write the piece by the lack of anything worthwhile about him on Misplaced Pages.

There has been no infringement of copyright. This belief may have arisen because before I sent the piece in, I emailed it to the author for his approval and comments. He unfortunately, being pleased with my efforts but unfamiliar with the formalities involved, passed it on to Wkipedia, which caused the mix-up.

The effort of writing it and the time it took to put together the illustrations has been formidable. That's why I hope that some fitting denouement will now happen.

Many thanks, Maksim Mikhailov. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mnm2005 (talk • contribs) 13:05, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

To which email address did you send the mail? It's usually different people who reply to emails and to help desk posts here. Most of us here cannot see emails, and most people who can see emails will not look here at the help desk. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:25, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi and thanks for your contributions. The article is live and isn't currently marked as a copyright infringements, although it does have several tags noting other issues, which either yourself or any other wikipedia editor can work on in the future. I'm not sure what illustrations you're referring to as I can't see any. Could you explain what specifically is your question? Many thanks. --Physics is all gnomes (talk) 13:28, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Unable to view Misplaced Pages pics in China

Posted this a week ago, here are some responses to the questions I received:

Original Question: For about 2 weeks now, every English and Chinese Misplaced Pages page has had ALL pictures show up as dead links. Wondering if anyone else has experienced this, and what might be causing it (behind new Great Firewall nonsense). 18:38, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

1) Can you see images at other websites unrelated to Misplaced Pages? All images in articles are stored at http://upload.wikimedia.org.

Answer: All images on every other non-Wiki affiliated page shows up fine. As of April 5 China time, upload.wikimedia.org is not accessible.

2) Can you see http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/Example.jpg?

Answer: No. It comes back as a dead link.

3) Can you see images at other Misplaced Pages languages?

Answer: No. I tried Misplaced Pages Chinese and Spanish for several articles-of-the-day and no pictures showed up.

4) Can you see http://en.wikipedia.org/images/wikimedia-button.png? It is stored here at http://en.wikipedia.org and displayed in the lower right corner.

Answer: Yes, this image works

5) Does Misplaced Pages:Advice to users using Tor to bypass the Great Firewall help?

Answer: Yes, when I use a VPN with any of these pages, the pictures all work fine. That's why I'm almost certain it's a blocking of upload.wikimedia.org issue. But would like to see if any others in China are having the same results. Maybe it's just my ISP (I am in Shenzhen, Guangdong province)?

6) Which browser do you have?

Answer: I have tried this on Firefox 4 and Chrome 11. Same result.

PrimeHunter (talk) 02:24, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

220.242.154.136 (talk) 13:41, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Everything points to the whole domain upload.wikimedia.org being blocked. All images in articles are stored there. I don't know whether other ISP's in your area might allow it. Great Firewall of China#Unblocking currently says "photographs and certain pages remain inaccessable", with the reference A page on Chinese Misplaced Pages which is for visitors to report how/from where/via which ISP they can access Misplaced Pages Template:Zh icon. I don't read Chinese. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:50, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Please delete or redirect misspelled article

Please delete or redirect the misspelled article Quarterfoil to Quatrefoil. 82.247.108.118 (talk) 13:44, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

I redirected the article. GB fan (talk) 13:57, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

William Procter Profile

To the Help Desk - I am the Corporate Archivist and Historian for the Procter & Gamble Company. I would like to point out a number of errors in the Misplaced Pages profile of William Procter.

The errors are as follows:

"Procter immigrated to Cincinnati Ohio in the 1820's...." Correct information - "Procter emigrated to Cincinnati in 1832"

"he joined forces with his brother - in - law, James N. Gamble..." Correct information - "he joined forces with his brother - in - law James Gamble..." James N Gamble or James Norris Gamble was James Gamble's son. James Gamble has a different middle name so these names often get confused.

".. and grandsons William Cooper and Henry Procter served as company presidents." Correct information - "and grandson William Cooper served as company president. There is no Henry Procter. William Cooper Procter was the last Procter or Gamble to serve as company president and he died in 1934.

" Mr. Procter has been rumored to be buried in a tomb on the lawn of his St. Bernard Soap Company headquarters in Cincinnati but it is also believed he is bured in Spring Grove Cemetery alongside business partner James Gamble." Correct information - "Mr. Procter is buried at Spring Grove Cemetery". The tomb on the lawn (not part of the St. Bernard Soap Company property) is a monument to William Cooper Procter, not a tomb for William Procter. Mr. Procter is also not buried alongside James Gamble. Mr. Gamble is buried on the other side of the cemetery with other members of the Gamble family.

This information comes from various sources within our archives but the best public source is a book called RISING TIDE, 165 Years of Brand Building, by Davis Dyer, Fred Dalzell and Rowena Olegario; Harvard Business School Press, 2004. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.183.232.24 (talk) 14:01, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the information, I'll amend the article. In future, you can correct articles yourself by hitting the edit button at the top of the page - although with articles where you have a conflict of interest, be very careful to keep the article neutral and discuss any contentious changes on the talk page. Best, --Physics is all gnomes (talk) 16:47, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Moving Pictures from Commons to Misplaced Pages

So, i have recently uploaded about eleven pictures to wikicommons to use in the article Arts on the Line. I just realized that even though I either took or found with the correct licensing on Flickr each of the immages, the pictures are of public artworks or murals and therefor need a fair use rationale. What would be the best way of moving all these pictures and adding a rationale? do I have to manually re-upload all of the pictures to Misplaced Pages and manually put up each of the ones on Commons for deletion? any help would be great.--Found5dollar (talk) 15:19, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

There is a tool that works the other way, Misplaced Pages --> Commons, not sure if it does the reverse. Maybe the Commons Help Desk regulars can assist. – ukexpat (talk) 15:33, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Fixing Categories.

Does anyone have any idea how I can get a list of either of the following two groups of pages which almost certainly need to be fixed. (They aren't done in Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Check Misplaced Pages)

• Pages whose title starts with "List of" where there are categories that don't have a sortkey (either in the category entry or a defaultsort)
• Pages with Eponymous categories (Little Dixie (Missouri) being in Category:Little Dixie (Missouri) for example) that don't have a sortkey of space (I know I've used * in the past which is incorrect as it is for those entries which go after Eponymous keys. (These would be unlikely to have a default sort since for other categories, it should have a different sortkey)Naraht (talk) 16:12, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Naming convention for biographical sections splitting off into separate articles?

Is there any convention, whether formal or informal, about the name of an article that focuses on the biography of someone? What I mean is, let's assume an article on that person has many sections, including a lengthy biography and other long sections on their theories, practices, influences, legacy, etc., and that the biography section grows to a sufficient size to warrant splitting into its own article, with a summary and {{Details}} in the original biography section. Is there any established convention as to what that split-off article should be called? Biography of John Smith? Life of John Smith? Or something else? Or has it yet to happen on enough articles to establish a convention? DionysosProteus (talk) 16:45, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Certainly frequent for political and religious figures; see Category:George Washington and Category:Jesus for examples. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  17:25, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Probably preaching to the converted here, but my view is that such splits should be the rare exception rather than the rule and only occur when the article would otherwise be too huge. For example the Barack Obama series of articles listed in {{Barack Obama}} (in addition to those mentioned by Gadget850). For the vast majority of people the sole article is and should be "the biography". Such articles shouldn't even have separate "biography" sections as the whole article is a biography. – ukexpat (talk) 17:44, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your responses, but neither have quite answered my question. I'm not asking whether or not splitting should occur, but what the article should be called if it does, exception or not. A writer such as George Bernard Shaw, for example, led a full life, wrote many plays, had political views, had aesthetic ideas, had a legacy and influence on subsequent writers, etc. If his Life section were to grow overly long, what would we call it when split? I scanned through the two categories offered, but can't spot a "biography" article in either. I see that Barack Obama has "Early Life and Career of..." as a sub-article. I've just worked out how to search for pages that begin... "Life of" etc. Most seem to be book titles. (Life of Samuel Johnson.) Some aren't (Life of Joseph Smith, Jr. from 1827 to 1830). There's Biography of Pope John Paul II and Biography of Frank Sinatra. None of these seem to be highly rated though. I take it, then, that there's no guideline/convention in place? DionysosProteus (talk) 18:23, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

My view is that the "biography" article should always be at the "main" name, so in your example, George Bernard Shaw would be the article dealing with his life, with the split articles named appropriately. (Incidentally I don't see the point of having Biography of Frank Sinatra separate from Frank Sinatra.) Compare for example the Michael Jackson articles: Michael Jackson is the main, biographical, article, with Death of Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson's health and appearance, 1993 child sexual abuse accusations against Michael Jackson, and others listed at {{Michael Jackson}}, as the split off articles. – ukexpat (talk) 18:31, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

I understand your take on it, but that wouldn't be appropriate for someone for whom the biographical details of their life is not the thing for which he/she is principally known. Plenty of writers and thinkers would fall into this category--I wouldn't expect an article on Hegel to be only his biography; it'd be an account of his philosophical ideas that I'd expect to find, along with criticism of his ideas, influences, legacy. I would expect a biographical sketch to occupy only a part of the main name article. Even the Michael Jackson article falls into this category. In that one, the account of his life and career occupies about 2/3rds of the current article, with other sections--artistry, legacy, etc.--occupying the remaining third. Having glanced at Frank Sinatra and the Biography of Frank Sinatra, it almost offers an example of what I'm talking about. The main article is currently 42k, while the biography is 68k (well over the desired 50k article length). Now, perhaps the other sections in the main article (political activities, etc.) could conceivably be merged into the biographical sketch, so it's not the best example. For most writers/thinkers, I, personally, would be most irate if I had to scan through a lengthy account of their lives in order to extract information about their ideas/aesthetics/works--so, to me, the notion that a biography should occupy only one section of a main name article seems desirable.

According to the summary style principles, we should offer a sliding scale of detail. So my question is: when there is sufficient detail in a biographical section, the presence of lengthy other sections, and an article length over 50k readable prose, what should the name of the article be that offers the next level of detail on the story of their life? Maybe it's just too rare an occurrence at this stage in the encyclopedia's evolution to have developed a convention. Is this something it is worth initiating a discussion about for an addition to the naming guidelines? If so, where exactly would it take place? DionysosProteus (talk) 11:40, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Wilmington, DE, stats

according to the statistics for Wilmington, Delaware 2010, the population has dropped, but where are the other 2010 statistics such as number of households, families, etc.? I am just seeing 2000? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.242.246.178 (talk) 18:45, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Most Misplaced Pages updates are done manually and incorporating the 2010 United States Census into tens of thousands of articles is a huge work. Some things may not be updated before the next census. See Misplaced Pages:2010 US Census. You are welcome to help. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:01, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Adding a new section

I would like to finsih adding to an article, but to make the information easier on the eyes, I would need to create a brand new section in the article. How do I do that?

Start a new line, then use ==Section title== for a section, or ===Subsection title=== for a subsection title, and so on. See WP:Cheatsheet where it says "section headings". --Physics is all gnomes (talk) 19:30, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

What's the point of categories?

So I've been diligently adding categories as I new page patrol, and it occured to me that I don't really know what they're for. Do readers use them much? Do they help articles get noticed by the right wikiproject or something? Are some types of category more useful than others? Just wondering really. --Physics is all gnomes (talk) 20:12, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

They help identify articles and they help to find articles on similar subjects. --Jayron32 20:23, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

For example: when I am creating a new article on a Wisconsin State Senate member, I can search for members of Category:Wisconsin State Senators for models to follow, reminders of information to gather, leads to possible sources of such information, etc. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:14, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

All of the above. I often like to read about notable people in X field, whether it be crime, academics, business, etc. So having categories is quite useful for me. Dismas| 00:31, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

People must use them. Category:Jewish_surnames is the most-popular category in WikiProject Anthroponymy, with an average of 825 views a day!.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 09:30, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

April 6

Parser help

So I've been working on a way to replace the clunky hangon tag process with a direct link in the db- templates. The draft is at {{Db-meta/sandbox2}}. As part of that I have folded in some of the features from hang on, one of which detects whether the tagged page's talk page exists and if it does not, it transcludes the text from {{Hang on/notice2}}. What I was hoping for some help with is the opposite situation. I would like the Db-meta/sandbox2 template to transclude {{Hang on/notice3}} when the talk page does exist, but I need help with the coding. Habla parser function?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:09, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Have you seen the documentation at mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions##ifexist? PrimeHunter (talk) 02:27, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes of course. It reads like Greek to me though. Maybe I can try again.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:39, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't seem that complicated to me. At {{Hang on/notice2}} you currently have {{#ifexist:{{TALKPAGENAME}}||{{Hang on/notice2}}}}}}. If the page exists then the code does nothing because the corresponding parameter (the empty space between the two ||) is blank. Just insert something there. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:46, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Ah! it works. Thanks. I get it now: {{If X exists:{{call this}}|{{if X doesn't exist call this}}}} What throws me is the use of the word "value".--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:18, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

How to make my article LIVE

Hi I have tried the suggested MOVE options to make my draft LIVE on wikipedia but unfortunately I cannot view the MOVE option on my draft page. Can you please suggest how I can publish my article?

SMNow (talk) 03:36, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

I moved it to St George Maso's. It still needs major improvements. The reason you couldn't move it is that you need a few more edits before you are WP:autoconfirmed. —teb728 t c 07:21, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

I would have waited and advised SMNow of the probability of speedy deletion. The article is way too spammy for mainspace in its current form. – ukexpat (talk) 12:56, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Cannot link to Wrka article.

Even though there is a Wrka article (a river in Poland) in English wikipedia, I have not been able to create a link to it. If I try to search for it, all I get is the WRKA radio station disambiguation page. To find the English article, go to Spanish wikipedia and type Wrka. Then click on the English link and it goes right to the English language page. I wonder if the Wrka page needs to be moved to Wrka River in order to be accessible. Please help! Please respond at my talk page. Thanks. Djmaschek (talk) 03:45, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

There is no Wrka article at es.wikipedia.org either, see . Do you have the spelling correct? --Jayron32 04:53, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

I just tried pl.wikipedia.org as well. Even the Polish Misplaced Pages has no article under that name: . Please double check and maybe give us the actual link at es.wikipedia or pl.wikipedia that has the content you are trying to get at en.wikipedia. --Jayron32 04:55, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

I think you meant the Wkra river, not Wrka.--Obsidi♠n 05:01, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh. In that case, the link works fine for me. --Jayron32 05:09, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Older article copied onto other sites - how do I deal with this?

Hi all

Just looking for a bit of advise - earlier this year the Misplaced Pages entry for a youth group I assist with was vandalised with some quite nasty stuff. I've asked for that to be removed and attempted to find the perpetrator without much success alas.

Now its been brought to my attention that some Japanese search engine "goo" has a cached copy of this vandalism up.

I've checked the site and there's no tools to edit, alert administrators or even get an English translation of their homepage

http://wpedia.goo.ne.jp/enwiki/Australian_Air_League

Does anyone have any advise on resource to find and removed these "content farm" copies of wikiedpia etc? This is quite frankly bloody annoying as you spent a considerable amount of your free time trying to do good and instead you're running around cleaning up after idiots :-(

Brian — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bgrinter (talk • contribs) 04:45, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

So long as they provide proper attribution so they are compliant with Misplaced Pages's licenses CC-BY-SA 3.0 and GFDL, websites may republish Misplaced Pages's content at any time, and any version of any article that actually existed. That's a fundemental core principle of how Misplaced Pages is organized. Rather than trying to stop them, this is actually actively encouraged. --Jayron32 04:51, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Jayron32, did you actually read the request? Are you saying that a cached copy of a vandalised, possibly slanderous article is fine to be re-published? That would mean I could write the most outrageous lies on a Misplaced Pages page, see it admin-reversed here, and then peddle the lies as Misplaced Pages content elsewhere. Regards — Peter S Strempel | Talk 06:07, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

@Peterstrempel: Yes, a cached, old copy of an article which contains vandalism is also licensed under the appropriate licesnces (as are talk page conversations, just like this one) and, so long as proper attribution is given by the rules, those old versions are perfectly legal to post, and within the letter and spirit of Misplaced Pages's licenses. That doesn't mean we cannot make a friendly request that a website update an old version to a more current one; however there is nothing we can do to force sites to fix or take down properly attributed text which has been copied from Misplaced Pages. --Jayron32 16:01, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

My Japanese isn't all that strong, but is there a part of that site that allows you to submit a url for re-indexing? Darigan (talk) 09:04, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Yep, I think Jayron's got it right. As long as they follow the licences to the letter, they can do whatever they want with Misplaced Pages's content.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 09:24, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes, publishing the content elsewhere with proper attribution (an URL to the Misplaced Pages article) would be okay. However, " the lies as Misplaced Pages content" may or may not be okay, as the license prohibits implicitly or explicitly or any connection with, sponsorship or endorsement by the Original Author, Licensor and/or Attribution Parties (...). decltype (talk) 09:25, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh whoops. I was thinking along the lines of Bgrinter's original comment - about questionable content that undoubtedly originated from a Misplaced Pages article. If they're adding their own lies into the text, and passing it off as coming from Misplaced Pages, then that'd be different.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 09:49, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, Brian, except for Darigan these guys seem pretty indifferent to your actual problem. I have asked a Japanese-speaking administrator to take a look at the site to see whether there is an option for requesting a cache refresh on that site. Regards — Peter S Strempel | Talk 11:40, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Their page for correcting or deleting personal information is here. That whole page is about appropriate handling of personal information and how seriously they take their responsibilities in that regard. I'll email them and ask that they update the page. — kwami (talk) 01:37, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

No response yet. — kwami (talk) 19:39, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Strange appearance of Misplaced Pages pages

Somehow, Misplaced Pages appears strangely in my browser. The following is a screenshot: Here is a screenshot of the appearance. I am using Firefox 3.6.16 on Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack 2. Any ideas? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 10:40, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Mmmh, it seems to be a hardware issue on my end. When I tried to safe another screenshot in Paint, I got a message saying something like: "Not enough quotes available to execute this instruction". Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 10:49, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

I would suppose it read "quota" rather than "quotes"! --ColinFine (talk) 18:30, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Christ the King College in Sierra Leone

Hi, Christ the King College (CKC) in Bo Southern Sierra Leone is not a technical college. i am an old boy of the school. It is one of the oldest senior secondary/High schools. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.133.61.110 (talk) 10:45, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

I have made the change to the Christ_the_King_College article based on the information in the external link. CaptRik (talk) 11:55, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

However, on closer inspection the entire content is a direct copy of the website so i've nominated it for deletion per WP:COPYVIO. CaptRik (talk) 12:52, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Changes the old user name Despotovic in the new user name Despotović

I kindly ask some administrator to move the User:Despotovic to User:Despotović because it's the same person - me. In fact, when I started the first registration on Misplaced Pages it was on the name Despotovic, later, someone changed my pages to Despotović and than I changed the user name to Despotović and since then constantly edit under this name. I would pray that you observe this explanation.--Despotović (talk) 11:03, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

How to get a TOC to appear on a Discussion page

At Talk:Geddy Lee I can't get a table of contents box to appear on the page. Initially I thought it was because the first conversation didn't have a title, but even after giving it one a TOC won't appear. Any ideas?—Biosketch (talk) 13:12, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Fixed.

In the "WikiProject Biography" header, the talk page transcludes another page - Talk:Geddy Lee/Comments. And that page had a == heading == so, the TOC on Talk:Geddy Lee was being hidden within the bio header (comments, 'show').

I just removed the heading from the comments page. Should be OK now.  Chzz  ►  13:22, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Not sure I understand that transclusion business but thanks, and thanks for the update at my Talk page.—Biosketch (talk) 13:33, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Reproducing Transient Technical Documentation

Here is some old .Net framework technical documentation that is still relevant today:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/xy8ebtbf(v=VS.71).aspx

Microsoft is notorious for breaking links to technical articles under their control (ie. they remove pages or change their locations).

May I reproduce the content of the above page in Misplaced Pages so that it has a permanent and reliable place in cyberspace? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgeSchiro (talk • contribs) 13:37, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

No, not on Misplaced Pages as we cannot accept copyrighted materials except in very limited circumstances. This material is clearly copyright Microsoft and has a clear copyright notice (© 2011 Microsoft. All rights reserved.) – ukexpat (talk) 13:48, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

You can however use WebCite to store it to prevent linkrot. Nanonic (talk) 13:53, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

WebCite is indeed the answer. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgeSchiro (talk • contribs) 14:01, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

what to do? Found serious innacuracy in a Misplaced Pages article

The Misplaced Pages article on Augeus has a section (Marriage to Medea) that confuses Augeus with Aegeus. Augeus never married Medea. Whole section should be deleted.

All the help I've been able to track down doesn't tell me how to correct a factually inaccurate article. Advice? Does some energetic existing editor want to correct it for me? Very easy to verify the inaccuracy.

207.216.204.149 (talk) 13:57, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

I think you should raise this issue on the articles talk page. I personally cannot verify what is correct or not, because the source is an offline one. Thus if you point out the error on the talk page with stating that you have checked the given source, I think other editors can check your motivation. Deleting a sourced section could otherwise be regarded as vandalism by the other editors. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:07, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Sorted in Augeas (note, not Augeus); already covered in Aegeus. You could have done the edit, as this is "Misplaced Pages, the encyclopedia that anyone can edit". With reference to the point about deleting a sourced section, mentioned by Toshio above, note that the quote says Aegeus, not Augeas. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:48, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

How do I create a page about myself?

Hi! I am a well known anchor and actor based out of Mumbai (India) and would like to have a page about myself on Misplaced Pages. Please tell me how I can go about creating one.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kubrasait (talk • contribs) 14:42, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

You shouldn't create a page about yourself. Please read WP:COI. Please also read WP:NOTABILITY to see whether you satisfy the criteria for someone else to create a page about you. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:51, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Another page that would be helpful to read is the guideline on autbiographies, Misplaced Pages:Autobiography. GB fan (talk) 14:52, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

You will need a list of reliable sources that others can access, and which can attest to your suitibility as a subject of an article (not every person merits an article at Misplaced Pages), see Misplaced Pages:Notability and Misplaced Pages:Notability (people) for more. Once you have compiled these sources, you may request that someone else create an article about you at Misplaced Pages:Requested articles. Simply find the appropriate category (probably "Journalism and journalists" for you), and add your name with a brief description of who you are, as well as as many independent, reliable sources that others can use to write an article. --Jayron32 15:56, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

There are other options available, such as Wikibios. – ukexpat (talk) 16:23, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

When did congress remove money from Social Security

Will congress ever repay the money they removed from Social Security? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.73.177.177 (talk) 14:44, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Have you tried Misplaced Pages's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Misplaced Pages, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.Template:Z37 GB fan (talk) 14:50, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

adult literature program

what is mean by adult literature program? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.161.78.19 (talk) 15:27, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Have you tried Misplaced Pages's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Misplaced Pages, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.Template:Z37 – ukexpat (talk) 15:44, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

'followed by' and 'preceded by'

Why Misplaced Pages is not showing 'followed by' and 'preceded by' links nowadays? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhilash.sai (talk • contribs) 15:58, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Those links are usually part of templates that are called "infoboxes", see Help:Infobox. Some infoboxes, used in some types of articles, used to have these links and they have recently been removed. The links have not been removed from all, or even most, infoboxes. There are several that still use chronological links quite frequently, for example see Henry VIII of England, which has several infoboxes; the one on the right clearly lists the kings that came before and after him, and there are a whole bunch of infoboxes at the bottom of the page that use the "preceded by" and "followed by" convention. You can also see the same functionality in the article for the song "Hey Jude", under the infobox section "Beatles singles chronology". However, there are some infoboxes that used to feature the information where it HAS been removed, usually because of ambiguity regarding its use. See Template_talk:Infobox_film#Preceded_By.2FFollowed_By where there is a discussion which explains why it was removed from film articles, you can read that at your own leisure. --Jayron32 16:09, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Keeping track of AfDs

Is there a way of sorting ongoing AfD discussions so that I can see, for example, only those that I have started, or only those that I have participated in? doomgaze (talk) 16:31, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Here is a link that tells you what pages you have created in the Misplaced Pages namespace, http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pages/index.php?name=Doomgaze&namespace=4&redirects=noredirects. Righ now all of yours are AFDs. Not sure how to get the AFDs you have contributed to. GB fan (talk) 16:57, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, that'll be quite useful! doomgaze (talk) 18:43, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Talk page created in error

An IP has created Talk:Short list with some irrelevant content. It looks like good faith, but I want to revert it, only I don't know the best way to do it. Should I just blank it, or should I leave some sort of place-holder saying what I've done? --ColinFine (talk) 18:26, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Remove what they wrote, and put {{talkpage}} - just that; which will make a standard talkpage header. If you want, you could leave the IP user a welcome note such as {{Welcome-anon}} on their talk page (which is User talk:41.155.44.139), and maybe ask 'em to please not use talk pages to advertise. (But nicely)  Chzz  ►  18:29, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Update: - someone beat us to it, with the first part - see  Chzz  ►  18:31, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, only because I saw it raised here and then checked to see whether it had been done!  – ukexpat (talk) 18:35, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

{{Talkpage}} is a redirect to {{Talk header}}— this template is intended only for talk pages with issues; see the documentation. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  02:17, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

There's no harm leaving it on this talk page just in case the IP comes back looking for their advert... – ukexpat (talk) 13:58, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages Symbol

Hello, What is the history and meaning of the Symbol / colophone for Misplaced Pages? It is the Symbol in the top left corner of the Misplaced Pages page, above the name "Misplaced Pages". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.92.104.149 (talk) 22:28, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages logos.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:40, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

April 7

Calculating population density

I'd like to update the population for all remaining MN cities, and am wondering whether it is acceptable to recalculate the population density. Others don't seem to be doing so. — anndelion ※ 07:59, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Routine calculations are allowed without infringing the no original research rule. Arjayay (talk) 08:10, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

A-ha, I knew I had to be missing something. Thanks. — anndelion ※ 08:25, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Editing a link in a reference

Dear Sirs

I would like to edit the link in one of the references on the bubwith page as it links to the wrong Ofsted report - I have edited on Misplaced Pages before but not in the references section - having clicked on the "edit" next to the "references" title I cannot see the relevant link in order to edit it and wondered if you could help.

I am unable to find anything to help me under FAQ and help.

Many thanks

Careyrowan (talk) 10:03, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

You need to edit the section where the reference is called up. If you click on the caret symbol (^) in the reference, that will take you up to where it is defined. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:09, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Hello Careyrowan, what you can do is click the edit button at the very top of the page, next to the read button, which will allow you to edit the whole page. In the edit window scroll down a little and you will find a section that reads:

Bubwith also has a ] and a leisure centre (which hosts Bubwith Playgroup.<ref>{{cite web|url = http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/oxcare_reports/download/%28id%29/271969/%28as%29/314588_INSP.pdf |title = Bubwith Playgroup Ofsted Report |format = PDF | accessdate= 30 January 2011}} </ref>)

This section uses a {{cite web}} template, which you can find out more about here. Simply replace the report which is linked in the |url= field with the new report, and also update the |title= and |accessdate= field should these be different. Probably a good idea to click show preview to make sure it formats correctly. Hope that helps! doomgaze (talk)

Thanks - all sorted now Careyrowan (talk) 20:47, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Is there no encrypted connection offered for when visiting https://secure.wikimedia.org ?

I could swear this worked earlier long time ago, but there seem to be no encryption for when visiting articles under https://secure.wikimedia.org, and I wonder if something is wrong somewhere or if encryption is not really offered.

My browser indicate that the connection to wikipedia is not encrypted as I would otherwise have expected. Encryption seem to work for me with searches at https://encrypted.google.com but not at https://secure.wikimedia.org.

Is there no encrypted connection offered for when visiting https://secure.wikimedia.org ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.91.66.128 (talk) 11:01, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

It would help us to know what browser you are using. _ennasis @ 11:22, 3 Nisan 5771 / 7 April 2011 (UTC)

When I go to https://secure.wikimedia.org with IE7 on XP Pro SP3 a box comes up that says there are secure and unsecure items on the page do I want to display the nonsecure items. If I say yes everything shows up but the lock on IE to show it is secure does not. If I say no, all the text of the page shows up, none of the images show up and the lock to show it is a secure page is there. It appears from this that the images are not coming in over the secure network but everything else is. GB fan (talk) 11:37, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• The secure servers of Misplaced Pages are actually not that secure. Read Misplaced Pages:Secure server for all the information you'll need on this. Write back if wish further assistance. Wifione _....... 11:39, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

First let me say that I am unsure how to properly edit and type in text here. I am the original poster for this inquiry and want to add that I use the Opera 11.01 browser. It is worth mentioning that when I load any page at https://secure.wikimedia.org, I briefly get a "secure" indication in my browser, however when the page is fully loaded the indication changes to showing that the connection is insecure (I have simply assumed that this means there is no encrypted connection). Lastly, I want to thank Wifione for linking to https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/Wikipedia:Secure_server. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.91.66.128 (talk) 13:57, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Interesting, I get the exact same results as you, using chrome on mac. If you are concered about privacy issues I suggest you create an account (see here), as without one you are identified by the IP address that you used. Don't worry, you replied correctly, but just remember to sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your message. Cheers! doomgaze (talk) 14:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Peter O'Toole

Why was the film "How To Steal A Million" not listed in Peter O'Toole's filmography? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.49.238.248 (talk) 12:14, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

It is. In Peter O'Toole filmography, under 1966 - How to Steal a Million.  Chzz  ►  12:25, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Australian War Memorial images

I believe that several images from the Category:Images_with_watermarks backlog can be untagged because their watermarks can't legally be removed. I was reading the copyright page of the AWM site, and it says, "You may download, display, print and reproduce this material in unaltered form only for your educational, non-commercial use or use within your organisation, provided you attribute the Australian War Memorial." I hate to ask a "legal" question on the Help desk, but as it pertains directly to Misplaced Pages in this case, what I'm wondering is if I'm correct in thinking what I stated above: the images cannot be altered, so the {{watermark}} tag should be removed from these images, and that's that. Is that correct? – Kerαunoςcopia_galaxies 12:56, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I would recommend you ask at WP:MCQ. I don't believe it's clear cut. The images are being used on Enwiki under claim of "fair use", which (if valid) does not require their permission. While watermarks may be required as part of licensing, that doesn't seem to be an issue when we are not relying on the license (which is unacceptable) but provisions of copyright law that permit our usage of the content without their permission. Still, I'd recommend asking at WP:MCQ. I'd also personally recommend not removing the watermark yourself no matter the feedback there if you aren't comfortable removing it; it's important to remember that we are each legally liable for our own actions on Misplaced Pages, no matter what somebody else tells us. We're not supposed to give legal advice. :) --Moonriddengirl 13:52, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Excellent, thank you. I know my question was a blurry one, because i wasn't asking for legal advice for me, per se, but since I was more or less curious about the images we're using here. But your answer is perfect, thank you. – Kerαunoςcopia_galaxies 21:50, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

How to locate where a wikilink originates from

I merged the article Sony Group into Sony. I am now going through the Wikilinks to Sony Group in order to fix double redirects. "What links here" says List of PlayStation Home Game Spaces links to Sony Group. However, I am unable to locate the corresponding wikilink inside the article text. How can I find it? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:27, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I generally open the edit window and use "find" on my browser window. That allows me to locate the link whether it is direct or piped. In this case, it's linked twice from within the section "Non-gaming Company Spaces". :) --Moonriddengirl 13:32, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

It is in the table entry for "FevaArena" - twice;

|FevaArena Entrance

|*"FevaArena Global Pitch Area" - Released worldwide on June 10, 2010; the first global public space in the Home Open Beta allowing users from Asia, Europe, Japan, and North America to converge in one space to participate in events, mini-games, and to celebrate the 2010 FIFA World Cup<br>*A lounge for the ] supported by ]<br>*An area for events...

I found it just by editing the entire page, and searching for the link.  Chzz  ►  13:36, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I found it and fixed it. Thanks very much. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:39, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

One last thing, I first pasted the content of Sony Group into Sony, but undid that revision. Then I performed the merger correctly. However that means there is now one revision that lacks proper attribution, if I understand correctly. Is there a way to delete this revision? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:56, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I don't think there is any need for this, because your edit summaries make it clear where the text came from. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:02, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I'd agree. Also help here is template {{copied}}, which has an optional parameter to indicate when you placed the text. --Moonriddengirl 19:50, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Can i remove teachers names from a Misplaced Pages page?

Due to privacy issues - can I remove a teachers name from a Misplaced Pages page? Also who approved what goes on to a Misplaced Pages page in the first place? I get that you are an encyclopedia and you want to know the history of the school but some of the info is just not needed. Every time I try to make a change to make it more correct - I get stopped and told I am vandisling the page. Please help. Weeden1168 (talk) 14:11, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes, you can and should remove the names, if they are not widely publicised - see WP:BLPNAME.

As you can see in the above, there are special rules concerning living people; however, all facts need reliable sources - e.g. a newspaper, a book, or something - where the fact can be verified. Anything lacking a reliable source may be challenged and/or removed

As regards your edits which were reverted - look at the page history, and find out who reverted - then speak to them - ie, in that case, on User talk:Xionbox and User talk:Gscshoyru. Just (politely) ask them to clarify why they removed things, and see if you can come to agreement with them. Chzz  ►  14:14, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

The names are available on line at http://www.weedenheightsps.vic.edu.au/Staff.aspx however I don't especially object to removing them. In general, decisions about Misplaced Pages article content are made through consensus - have a look at Misplaced Pages:Consensus for more information. PhilKnight (talk) 14:18, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

To be honest, I'm not sure we should even have that article: primary schools aren't automatically eligable for inclusion, and it doesn't seem to meet our notability guideline for articles. I'm going to nominate it for a deletion discussion.--Physics is all gnomes (talk) 14:18, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

In these situations the common practice is to redirect to the relevant town or city article if there is one. So in this case to Vermont South, Victoria#Education. – ukexpat (talk) 14:43, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Referencing URLs that contain square brackets

Is there a way to use URLs that contain square brackets as references? They always seem to not format properly, as you can see in this new article that I just came across, here, reference number 3. I've always just replaced the reference with a different one, but is there a way to use the original? doomgaze (talk) 14:34, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I've fixed the URL using the advice at meta:Help:URL. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:08, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

URLs containing certain characters will display and link incorrectly unless those characters are encoded. For example, a space must be replaced by %20.

URLs may also be automatically encoded by using the urlencode magic word: {{urlencode|url|WIKI}} ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  15:17, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

The help page at meta seems to be out of date— I just did some testing and only the characters listed above need to be encoded.

Can someone please give me some help in getting the reference at A. J. Casson Award to work? (It is reference 25 on Tom LaPierre.) I've already changed one ? to a %3F, but it is still not showing as a reference. :( Naraht (talk) 15:40, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Also fixed. Perhaps multiple adjacent apostrophes cause a problem? -- John of Reading (talk) 15:57, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Looks like it gets parsed as wikimarkup first and the two single quotes are interpreted as italic markup. I updated {{HD/url}}. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  16:41, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I figured after banging my head against it for 15 minutes that I needed to come to the help desk. I'm not sure if there is a better place than hear to ask, but asking here did work. :) Naraht (talk) 19:03, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Is the relevant? The Open to Hope Foundation

I want to add The Open to Hope Foundation or opentohope.com to wikipedia, is that relevant? It is a non-profit online resource for those who have suffered a loss (a death). Heatherjohnsonhope (talk) 15:34, 7 April 2011 (UTC)heather J

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Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Misplaced Pages:Your first article. You might also look at Misplaced Pages:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Misplaced Pages:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is also available to walk you through creating an article. TNXMan 15:38, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Where would I request rollback/Twinkle rights re-added?

While I don't want to go into the details, I feel my rollback and twinkle were recently removed unfairly. Where would I request the return of those rights? Toa Nidhiki05 16:08, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Administrators noticeboard would be the best place, but be aware you are going to have to provide details, you can't just say "I didn't like losing them, so because of that I want the rights back". --Jayron32 16:16, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Before AN, you'd be best discussing it with the person who removed it - that is, King of Hearts (talk · contribs · email) - on eir talk page, or via email.  Chzz  ►  16:17, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Alrighty, thanks; the only reason I didn't mention it here is that I didn't want some huge conversation to start on it yet. :) Toa Nidhiki05 16:34, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Can't move userspace draft into mainspace

I want to move an article I have created in my userspace into mainspace. However, I cannot do this. It says the page cannot be moved and I should ask an admin for help. What do I need to do in order to move User:Toshio Yamaguchi/Wolstenholme prime into mainspace? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:39, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

You can't move the page because the title Wolstenholme prime already exist, albeit as a redirect. What you need to do is edit that redirect page and add the following:

{{db-move|1=User:Toshio Yamaguchi/Wolstenholme prime|2=Article over redirect}}

An admin will be along shortly and perform the move for you, once that's done. _ennasis @ 16:47, 3 Nisan 5771 / 7 April 2011 (UTC)

The article looks good, and it deserves to be moved to main space, but it would clobber a redirect if it were moved directly. There is a previous mainspace article sitting under the redirect. Please take a look at this link to see the old version of the article which got replaced by the redirect. See if there is any material there which ought to be merged into your new version. Contact any admin when you complete your work and think the article is ready to be moved. As an alternative, you could just open this link directly to merge your new material into it. This would not require any admin action. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 16:51, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I think my article is ready. The previous article does not contain any information, not already in my draft. Where should I go in order to find an admin for this? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:55, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I will do it myself now. Have added that line Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:04, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I added the line mentioned above to the redirect page, but I still get the message

The page could not be moved: a page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name, or use Requested moves to ask an administrator to help you with the move. Do not manually move the article by copying and pasting it; the page history must be moved along with the article text.

What else do I have to do? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:12, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

It's only a quarter of an hour since you put the tag on the redirect page, so a little patience would be wise. Avicennasis said "An admin will be along shortly and perform the move for you, once that's done", and he did mean "shortly", not "instantly". - David Biddulph (talk) 17:17, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

And to see that it's in the queue for admin action, you can see it at Category:Candidates for speedy deletion. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:20, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Will wait then. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

You'll see that it's now been done. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:28, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Cool, thank you all very much. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:30, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Please check to see if our existing article on Wolstenholme's theorem should have a link or a 'See also' to your new article on Wolstenholme prime. Maybe you can think of some other improvements that might be added to Wolstenholme's theorem, since you know this material. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 17:35, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I added two wikilinks to Wolstenholme's theorem pointing to Wolstenholme prime. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:43, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

WANT TO BE A MEMBER

hello am THE 2ND WORLD MAN also here to verify about the WWE and also the belt article i will be glad if my request has been granted succesfully thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.71.150.127 (talk) 18:59, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

If you would like to sign up for a Misplaced Pages account, instructions for doing so are here. --Jayron32 21:10, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Automatic facebook page

The company I work for just started their facebook page. Unfortunately, there seems to be one already that is a direct link to the wikipedia article about it (we updated the article & the page updated too). We would like to remove this facebook page. Is this something that you guys do? I've notices the same kind of page for several other companies in our field who don't have regular facebook pages. If this is something I have to contact facebook about, please let me know.BronicaBlue (talk) 20:47, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

If there's a problem with a Facebook page, you will have to contact Facebook. If you plan to update your company's page at Misplaced Pages, please read and follow the conflict of interest guidelines. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:56, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

The pages of Misplaced Pages content on facebook are mirror pages created by facebook. Misplaced Pages has no control over them. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 20:59, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Indeed, downstream copying of Misplaced Pages content, so long as the copier complies with the terms of Misplaced Pages's licenses CC-BY-SA 3.0 and GFDL, are allowed. If it's not at a Wikimedia site, however, like en.wikipedia.org, then we have no control over the content. --Jayron32 21:09, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thanks!BronicaBlue (talk) 21:33, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Please Integrate Misplaced Pages with Social Media Sites such as Facebook, Twitter etc

Dear Misplaced Pages Helpdesk,

I have been one of millions of beneficiaries of the wealth of information Misplaced Pages offers to all its users. I had a suggestion for Misplaced Pages to be integrated with all of the Social Media sites such as Facebook, Twitter since Social Media is a phenomena that no one can ignore and it would greatly benefit all Misplaced Pages users to share Misplaced Pages links/pages with their social networks.

Thanks, Raj —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.192.83.42 (talk) 21:33, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Misplaced Pages help forums