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Invitation to join WikiProject United States

Hello, Mukkakukaku! WikiProject United States, an outreach effort supporting development of United States related articles in Misplaced Pages, has recently been restarted after a long period of inactivity. As a user who has shown an interest in United States related topics we wanted to invite you to join us in developing content relating to the United States. If you are interested please add your Username and area of interest to the members page here. Thank you!!!

--Kumioko (talk) 03:55, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Colorado

WikiProject Colorado

United States notice board

The year 2011 has brought many changes to the State of Colorado. We have a new Governor and other state officers, two new U.S. Representatives, many new state legislators, and a new Mayor of Denver. WikiProject Colorado is updating many Colorado articles. Many Colorado places, people, and organizations need new articles. Portal:Colorado needs new featured articles.

Can you help us? Please see our list of some requested articles. If you wish, you may join WikiProject Colorado at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Colorado/Members. If you have any questions, please leave me a message at User talk:Buaidh or e-mail me at Special:EmailUser/Buaidh. Thanks for any help you can provide.

Don't forget the Misplaced Pages 10th Anniversary event in Boulder tomorrow. Yours aye,  Buaidh  22:15, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/1955 MacArthur Airport United Airlines crash/archive1

Hey there! I just wanted to thank you for finding the accident report; I had been searching all over the place for it. I think I have addressed all your comments at the FAC, and I would be grateful if you could review the changes I have made. Thanks, wackywace 15:14, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Just to let you know, I've addressed the additional comments you left at the FAC. BTW, this is looking really good; I hope we'll be seeing it at GAN or FAC in the future! wackywace 19:28, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I've added a final comment to the FAC review. Personally I don't think the article has the sheer scope necessary for a Featured Article, but I do think it's a viable candidate for A-class as it is. Small steps, eh? --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 22:13, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Online Ambassadors

I saw the quality of your contributions at DYK and clicked on over to your user page and was pretty impressed. Would you be interested in helping with the WP:Online_Ambassadors program? It's really a great opportunity to help university students become Misplaced Pages contributers. I hope you apply to become an ambassador, Sadads (talk) 21:06, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Death of Philip Gale/GA1

Thank you very much for your good faith review over at Talk:Death of Philip Gale/GA1. Unfortunately, I have decided to step back from contributing to this particular article. Others may wish to respond to your valid points at the GA Review, but I will be avoiding that particular page. Please feel free to do what you judge best, with the status of the article. Thanks very much for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 02:09, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Let's see if any of the other editors of the Philip Gale article will step up. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 05:33, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

GA Hughes_Airwest_Flight_706

I have placed your GA review on hold for seven days so that you can address the items raised. Thanks, Racepacket (talk) 06:39, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

WikiCup 2011 January newsletter

We are half way through round one of the WikiCup. Signups are now closed, and we have 129 listed competitors, 64 of whom will make it to round two. Congratulations to The Bushranger (submissions), who, at the time of writing, has a comfortable lead with 228 points, followed by Hurricanehink (submissions), with 144 points. Four others have over 100 points. Congratulations also go to Yellow Evan (submissions), who scored the first points in the competition, claiming for Talk:Hurricane King/GA1, Miyagawa (submissions), who scored the first non-review points in the competition, claiming for Dognapping, and Jarry1250 (submissions) who was the first in the competition to use our new "multiplier" mechanic (explanation), claiming for Grigory Potemkin, a subject covered on numerous Wikipedias. Thanks must also go to Jarry1250 for dealing with all bot work- without you, the competition wouldn't be happening!

A running total of claims can be seen here. However, numerous competitors are yet to score at all- please remember to submit content soon after it is promoted, so that the judges are able to review entries. The number of points that will be needed to reach round two is not clear- everyone needs to get their entries in now to guarantee their places! If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed17 22:39, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, my name is DarkJak495. But you can just call me DJ. I was wondering if you would like to work with me on making the article: The Ruins of Gorlan a better article. My goal is to make it GA class. If you are intersted, then please respond on the Ruins of Gorlan talkpage. Your help and experiance would be gratefully appreciated. Thanks, and i am looking forward to hearing a response from you!UserDarkJak495 talk orange 15:41, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Hey DarkJak. Unfortunately I really don't work very much with novels or literature. You may have noticed that the majority of my good articles and big projects are either translations or about aviation. I'm an engineer; I haven't taken a literature class since high school. My ability to write about literature or novels is, well, pretty much nil.

Can I suggest you contact Sadads instead? He's quite involved in reviewing literature-related articles for GA status, and may be willing to help you. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 16:33, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks, but I already have. Cheers!UserDarkJak495 talk orange 17:10, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Lufthansa Flight 592

Hello! Your submission of Lufthansa Flight 592 at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Pgallert (talk) 20:06, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Have responded there, and at the Flight 592 talk page. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 20:16, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

U Dhammaloka footnotes

Hi Mukkakukaku,

Thanks for doing all that - very much appreciated!

--Laurence Cox (talk) 08:15, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

DYK

Hi. Thanks for reviewing my nomination, I just answered your concerns. Cheers. Jaespinoza (talk) 20:17, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK: Karl Bernhard Zoeppritz

Thanks for tweaking that. This is my first entry, and I make mistakes :-) I've also realised I spelled his name wrong in the header on the DYK page :-P Reynardo (talk) 11:08, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Silas Blissett

Hey, I noticed you only put a "maybe" icon on the DYK nomination form for Silas. You stated this was because there is no sourced storyline. That's not needed as per :MOS:TV#Plot section it states: "Plot summaries do not normally require citations; the television show itself is the source, as the accuracy of the plot description can be verified by watching the episode in question. An exception to this rule may be shows containing plot details that are unclear or open to interpretation, in which case the different interpretations should be sourced to reliable sources." So isn't the article fin afterall?RAIN*the*ONE 20:49, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Catawba DYK

Could you explain why this is required? Savidan 19:39, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

I've responded at the DYK entry. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 20:01, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Just a note

Euclid Faktur is actually the name of the font in my signature, not my username. Just didn't want you to get confused (you mixed them up on an AFD we were both voting on). Regards, ⇒SWATJester 22:46, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

... Wow now I feel stupid. Lol. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 02:54, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Nah it's cool, no worries. ⇒SWATJester 08:51, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

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Be careful, PROD and speedy deletions are not eligible for CSD G4 :) . -- Luk 20:54, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Whoa, you're right. Totally skipped over the word "not" in the tiny text on the template. Thanks for the heads-up. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 20:55, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Polish football club articles

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Left some comments at Talk:Dark Places (novel)

Hey, I left some comments at Talk:Dark Places (novel), Sadads (talk) 21:15, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Did you see the comments in the other two sections too?Sadads (talk) 21:35, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Working on it. I don't type that fast. ;) --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 21:37, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Haha sorry, left response on things related to book on talk page. Thought I would move here for the personal stuff. On the WP:Novels thing many of us aren't literature people by training, but we get a lot of Kruft and people who like to write long and complex plot summaries. I find myself writing articles on Novels I have no intention of ever reading, but they are really easy to research because you find a couple of reviews and pull out the different important aspects and you piece that together into common topic themes. You really don't actually have to understand the book to write the article, its great! I have written like 5 of the James Fenimore Cooper novel articles, like The Red Rover, without ever reading the books. Currently, we have a huge clean backlog that we are trying to work on, and plot summaries are our biggest. Check out WP:Novels/Collaboration and maybe kill some plot tags, there is a barnstar in it for you! Judging by the work you did on this article, I would think you would be really good at it! Sadads (talk) 22:18, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. I'll probably go at anything tagged with {{plot}} or {{book-fiction}} during next month's Guild of Copy Editors clean-up drive.

My big problem with novels and articles about them isn't so much plot but the thematic elements. I went to a very liberal-arts-oriented high school so I can talk rather knowledgeably about these sorts of things, but how I avoid WP:OR is by researching the article from scratch -- which is hard to do when you don't even know where to start looking. Frankly, beyond SparkNotes and CliffNotes I have no clue where to look. And generally if the work is important enough to have (Spark/Cliff)Notes, it probably doesn't need expansion anyway.

Thanks. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 22:37, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Google news is a good place to start (make sure you check the archives option in the time period you search), also major newspapers for reviews, Publisher's Weekly, , if you check google scholar you can see if anyone has cited the article, and if you have EBSCOHost or some other scholarly databases, usually if you just search the title in quotes and then the author's last name, you can find a whole slew of sources, especially if the book is by a well known author, because they inevitably have newspaper reviews, sometimes from small newspapers. Also, online magazines you will find if you search author name, title and review on google, Sadads (talk) 22:45, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Kirkus review also reviews just about all of the new novels published in the US and Britain, Sadads (talk) 23:23, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

GA nomination of Conservation of slow lorises

I appreciate your eagerness to see Conservation of slow lorises reach good article status. However, as the author of the article, I would have preferred to have made the nomination. In fact, had I not come home from work this evening and fallen asleep, I was going to do a little bit more touch-up work and nominate the article myself. Please, before nominating articles at WP:GAN, first check with the authors and ensure they they do not have plans to nominate the article. Thanks, – VisionHolder « talk » 09:29, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

... If I had nominated it for WP:DYK and not mentioned you as an author of the article, I'd understand. But GA? There's no attribution involved there, and no notice along the lines of "An article you significantly contributed to has made it to GA-class..." like there is with DYK. I noticed the article when I was on new page patrol and I was very impressed. I wandered off, came back, and was further impressed by the further progress you had made, so I nominated it for GA.

I do apologize, however, for not notifying you that I made the nomination. I was late to class and it totally slipped my mind. Best. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 00:35, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Not to come off as curt or flippant or anything like that; I seriously didn't think that anybody would be peeved over somebody nominating an article they'd worked on as a Good Article. Frankly the last time someone did that for an article that I had contributed significantly to, I was rather flattered (mostly because I'd not considered that article to be anything more than a B-class at most.) Best. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 00:37, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I'm not trying to come across as a dick. Honestly, I am flattered that you think the article merits a nomination at GAN. However, different editors have their own plans for their articles. What if I had planned to take the article straight to FAC? (Answer: I would not be able to nominate the article until after the GAN finishes, which could take weeks.) Also, by losing the claim to the nomination, I could lose out on a chance to win a Four Award for the article. Additionally, I include my Wiki work on my CV. Most people who read my CV have no idea how to look at edit histories, so pointing them to a GA credit or Four Award is my best evidence.

The other issue I have with it is that some editors jump on newly re-written articles, nominate them before the authors do, and then claim the full GA credit. Here's an example where that happened to a friend of mine: Miniopterus mahafaliensis/GA1 Be sure to note the immediate GA pass (no changes necessary) and read the nominators comments at the very end... and then consider the edit history. Now let me be clear that I am not accusing you of this. I'm just saying that this is how it could be perceived. This is why I suggest dropping a note on the author's talk page first to make sure there are no plans for the article before nominating, particularly if the article was very recently (re)written. If there is no significant author (or team of authors), particularly if the article has been in excellent shape for a long time with no activity or has a primary editor who has since left Wiki, then go for it! The more articles we have run though a vetting process and get credit for it the better. Again, I'm sorry to sound possessive. Please understand that I put a lot of work into that article and would like to get the full credit for my work. – VisionHolder « talk » 01:08, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Hm. I never thought of it that way. I can see how having someone else take the credit can be seriously annoying (because I can't think of a more appropriate and stronger synonym), and I find the case you mentioned in your previous comment quite appalling. Please be assured that I am in no way looking to take credit for getting the article to where it is now. I am fully capable of writing a GA-class article myself, and have no need to go stealing other people's work and claiming it as my own. :)

I suppose, however, that the basis of this is a difference in points of view that has partially come about from the fact that I do not work in a field where including my Misplaced Pages work on my CV would do me any good. (And, in fact, would probably garner some strange looks and questions from potential employers or contractors.)

I have always considered the higher classes of article, GA and higher, to be a sort of status symbol -- not for the contributor(s) to the article but moreso for the article itself. These higher classes articles, in my opinion, are the reason why Misplaced Pages is not dismissed out of hand as an interesting internet phenomenon and social experiment but of little value as an encyclopedia. For that reason, when I stumble upon an article that I find particularly interesting, well-sourced, and well written, my immediate reaction is to nominate it for GA class so that it can get the recognition it deserves.

With regards to your mention of WP:FOUR, I had been under the impression that it was awarded on the basis of an editor creating an article, sending it through WP:DYK, and then contributing significantly to aforementioned article as it passed through GA to FA statuses. But on second glance, I am apparently in the wrong. I was not aware that there needed to be any sort of nomination credit, which I find kind of silly anyway. (Since that kind of makes the whole idea of collaboration a complete moot point anyway. Not that I want to claim collaboration credit or anything on the Conservation of slow lorises article; just in general I find it a kind of ridiculous double standard.)

Really. I don't want any credit for the article. I recognize just how much work you put into it, and the resulting article is fascinating and excellently done. I nominated it for GA so that it (and, I suppose, you) would get the recognition it (and you) deserve. Best. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 04:28, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

And with regards to your point about going directly to FA and bypassing GA altogether, I have seen editors decline a GA nomination by deleting the nomination template off the talk page directly. I'm not sure if this is the proper procedure for that sort of thing; that's just what I've seen happen. I'm really quite sorry for stepping on your toes. Best. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 04:32, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for not replying earlier. I needed a break from Wiki tonight, and I just got back. I don't want you to feel bad about the nomination. I sincerely do appreciate your efforts, and I encourage you to keep looking for near-GA-quality articles. All I ask is that you do a quick check of the history, and if it looks like it's under construction, just drop a quick note on the talk page and ask what the plans are. If no replies after a week, by all means, please nominate and then take the feedback to finish polishing it up! Any frustration I have shown has been with the loopholes that allow abuse of this kind of thing. I was assuming good faith, and I hold no grudges. Being bold is important on Wiki, but I have also been bitten by it before. Trust me—there are plenty of bruised toes on Wiki with the imprint of my shoes. Like I said, keep up the good work. – VisionHolder « talk » 06:05, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

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Replied to you in the above section. Veriss (talk) 07:00, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

WikiCup 2011 February newsletter

So begins round two of the WikiCup! We now have eight pools, each with eight random contestants. This round will continue until the end of April, when the top two of each pool, as well as the next 16 highest scorers of those remaining, will make it to round three. Congratulations to The Bushranger (submissions) (first, with 487 points) and Hurricanehink (submissions) (second, with 459), who stormed the first round. Casliber (submissions) finished third with 223. Twelve others finished with over 100 points- well done to all of you! The final standings in round one can be seen here. A mere 8 points were required to reach round two; competition will no doubt be much more fierce this round, so be ready for a challenge! A special thanks goes, again, to Jarry1250 (submissions) for dealing with all bot work. This year's bot, as well as running smoothly, is doing some very helpful things that last year's did not. Also, thanks to Stone (submissions) for some helpful behind-the-scenes updating and number crunching.

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Backlog elimination barnstar

		The Literary Barnstar
		Thank you for participating in the WP:Novels February 2011 Backlog Elimination drive. Keep up the great work, we always need help working on Novels articles! Sadads (talk) 11:23, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

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GOCE drive newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors March 2011 backlog elimination drive report Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors March 2011 Backlog elimination drive. Thank you for participating in the March 2011 drive! This newsletter summarizes the March drive and other recent events. Participation There were 99 signups for the drive; of these, 70 participated. Interest was high mainly due to a link to our event from the Watchlist page. We had a record-breaking 84 articles listed on the Requests page in March; 11 of these have been promoted to Good article status so far. Several of our recent efforts have received Featured Article status as well, and the GOCE is becoming a solid resource for the Misplaced Pages community. Many thanks to editors who have been helping out at the Requests page and by copy editing articles from the backlog. Progress report Remarkable progress was made in reducing the backlog this month, as we now have fewer than 500 articles remaining from 2009. We are well under the 4,000-article mark for the total number remaining in the queue. Since our backlog drives began in May 2010 with 8,323 articles, we have cleared more than 53% of the backlog. A complete list of results and barnstars awarded can be found here. Barnstars will be distributed over the next week. If you enjoyed participating in our event, you may also like to join the Wikification drives, which are held on alternate months to our drives. Their April drive has started. New coodinators On March 21, SMasters appointed Chaosdruid (talk) and Torchiest (talk) as Guild coordinators to serve in place of The Utahraptor, who recently stepped down. Please feel free to contact any coordinator if you have any questions or need assistance. Your drive coordinators – S Masters (talk), Diannaa and Tea with toast (Talk)

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