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	::I’m sure you know how to deal with sources you consider unreliable, a simple deletion is not the right way. However, ] gives just examples of reliable sources. ] explains it more detailed:<blockquote><p>"Where available, academic and peer-reviewed publications are usually the most reliable sources (...). '''But they are not the only reliable sources in such areas.''' Material from reliable non-academic sources may also be used, (...) Other reliable sources include '''university-level (...) books''' published by respected publishing houses. '''Electronic media may also be used''', subject to the same criteria."</p></blockquote>		::I’m sure you know how to deal with sources you consider unreliable, a simple deletion is not the right way. However, ] gives just examples of reliable sources. ] explains it more detailed:<blockquote><p>"Where available, academic and peer-reviewed publications are usually the most reliable sources (...). '''But they are not the only reliable sources in such areas.''' Material from reliable non-academic sources may also be used, (...) Other reliable sources include '''university-level (...) books''' published by respected publishing houses. '''Electronic media may also be used''', subject to the same criteria."</p></blockquote>
	::I don’t know about Brier’s academic background at the time when he completed this study and whether it might be considered "scholary" per WP:RS. It is for sure on a university-level and it is published at the ]'s and ]’s digital library, a highly respected institution. If you disagree you might use the appropriate way to solve the problem. ] (]) 16:37, 22 May 2011 (UTC)		::I don’t know about Brier’s academic background at the time when he completed this study and whether it might be considered "scholary" per WP:RS. It is for sure on a university-level and it is published at the ]'s and ]’s digital library, a highly respected institution. If you disagree you might use the appropriate way to solve the problem. ] (]) 16:37, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

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Welcome Back

Glad too see that you are back, your contributions are appreciated--Woogie10w (talk) 01:20, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Re: Weber and racism

I suggest we keep this to Talk:Max Weber, where I suggest you repost your comment from my talk page. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:46, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you so much for the link! Regarding your remark about the work of Polish historians, I'll would like to bring in some work by Polish historians (which are unfortunately not always available in English as much as one might like), so given my linguistic limitations, if you know of any work that has been translated into English that you can recommend, I'll be very interested. Changing the topic, I'll like to discuss with you in confidence for reasons that I will make clear some concerns on my part about some sinister going-ons around here. I'll e-mail you in the next couple of days, if that is Ok. Thank you again, and please have a wonderful day!--A.S. Brown (talk) 00:19, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Monitor. WikiProject Poland Newsletter: Issue 1 (April 2011)

WikiProject Poland Newsletter • April 2011
For our freedom and yours

Welcome to our first issue of WikiProject Poland newsletter, the Monitor (named after the first Polish newspaper).

Our Project has been operational since 1 June, 2005, and also serves as the Poland-related Misplaced Pages notice board. I highly recommend watchlisting the Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Poland page, so you can be aware of the ongoing discussions. We hope you will join us in them, if you haven't done so already! Unlike many other WikiProjects, we are quite active; in this year alone about 40 threads have been started on our discussion page, and we do a pretty good job at answering all issues raised.

In addition to a lively encyclopedic, Poland-related, English-language discussion forum, we have numerous useful tools that can be of use to you - and that you could help us maintain and develop:

we have an active assessment department. As of now, our project has tagged almost 80,000 pages as Poland-related, out of which 1,500 still need a quality assessment, and 20,000, importance assessment.
we have also begun B-class quality reviews on our talk page, and if our activity increases, hopefully we will be able to institute our own A-class quality reviews. As of now, we have about 500 C-class articles in need of a B-class review. If you'd like to help with them, instructions for doing B-class reviews are to be found in point 10 of our assessment FAQ.
once an article is assessed it will appear in our article alerts and news feed, which provides information on which Poland-related articles are considered for deletion, move, or are undergoing a Good or Featured review. Watchlisting that feed, in addition to watchlisting our project's main page, is a good way to make sure you stay up to date on most Poland-related discussions.
you can also see detailed deletion discussions at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Poland (which is another good place to watchlist!)
also, those articles will be included in our cleanup listing, which allows us to see which top-importance articles are in need for attention, and so on
newly created Poland-related articles are listed here. They need to be reviewed, often cleaned-up, and its creators may need to be welcomed and invited to our project
we are maintaining a Portal:Poland
automated Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Poland/Popular pages lists the most popular Poland-related pages from the previous month(s)

This is not all; on our page you can find a list of useful templates (including userboxes), awards and other tools!

With all that said, how about you join our discussions at WT:POLAND? Surely, there must be something you could help others with, or perhaps you are in need of assistance yourself?

You have received this newsletter because you are listed as a at WikiProject Poland. • _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 21:11, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 21:20, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

moving pages

Well, it's you who moved the page without a prior discussion, knowing about the different views about it. HerkusMonte (talk) 11:33, 26 April 2011 (UTC) Do you actually understand the different definitions of Pomerania in Poland and Germany? The scholary books on the subject (e.g. Meier) don't use your "original name", but who cares, it's just another hoax on wikipedia. Have a nice day. HerkusMonte (talk) 11:48, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

April 2011

One of your recent edits violates the established policy of doublenaming places sharing a German-Polish history as defined in the well known Gdansk vote.

For Gdansk and other locations that share a history between Germany and Poland, the first reference of one name in an article should also include a reference to other names, e.g. Danzig (now Gdańsk, Poland) or Gdańsk (Danzig).

Contrary to these principles you removed the alternative names mentioned in brackets. Please restore the proper names in accordance with the Gdansk vote as

Persistent reverts against community consensus despite multiple warnings may be dealt with according to the rules in Misplaced Pages:Dealing with vandalism.

Thanks. HerkusMonte (talk) 12:32, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

No shared history in the section mentioned. Hence no double naming just like in other articles about these locations where we only use Polish names-see 1988 Polish strikes for example where only Polish names are used, since no shared history exists. Or Euro 2012 where no Germanized names are used either. Or Adoptation of Christianity by Mieszko were we also don't use Germanizied versions of Polish names.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 12:38, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

As the lead section of Pomerania during the High Middle Ages describes it:

Starting in the High Middle Ages, a large influx of German settlers and the introduction of German law, custom, and Low German language gradually turned most of the area into a German one.

Thus the article obviously covers a period of shared history. Unfortunately you preferred to remove further names in violation of the Gdansk vote . Please don’t continue this behaviour as violations of this policy might be treated as vandalism. HerkusMonte (talk) 13:03, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

So you are going to remove "Szczecin" from AG Vulcan Stettin, Stoewer etc. as there was nothing Polish about these companies. Your misinterpretation of the Gd. vote is remarkable. HerkusMonte (talk) 13:33, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

"They had Polish workers", Oh I see. I know someone working for a Polish company in Warsaw, didn't know that's enough to Germanize the respective articles. Seriously, that's absurd. HerkusMonte (talk)

As already explained above the Gdansk vote is absolutely clear about the usage of alternate names in brackets, you might take it to WP:3O. HerkusMonte (talk) 18:02, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Heads-up re. Roman numerals

I was reading Talk:Szczecin and noticed your (in my opinion, correct) suggestion that Polish sources be used in an article about a Polish city. However, you mentioned something about "XX century" history. You might not realize that this is not how centuries are described in English. Centuries are always numbered in Arabic numerals or words - "20th century" or "twentieth century", but never "XX century". I've been told by other Polish editors that this quirk isn't mentioned in English courses taught at Polish schools or universities, so it can trip up even the most careful editor.

Roman numerals have very limited uses in the anglosphere. You can't be confident that the average anglophone will even understand a Roman numeral, let alone use one. (These days the only place you see them outside the US is on very old clocks and buildings and in monarchs' names, such as Queen Elizabeth II. In the US you see them in the Super Bowl title and, sometimes, in proper names - but in the latter case they rarely get past III.) Good luck! --NellieBly (talk) 23:42, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

No problem; English is sometimes very strange. --NellieBly (talk) 23:49, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Do not delete/refactor other editor's threads on the Administrator's noticeboard. If you continue to do so, you will be blocked. OhNoitsJamie 14:00, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit at AN/I

I'm not sure what you were trying to do with your edit at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, but you deleted large portions of several discussions. I've reverted this edit and restored about 160k of text in the process. —C.Fred (talk) 14:01, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Your recent edit to ANI

Hi, this edit by you wiped a lot of other contributors edits from the page - so I have reverted you. You may wish to re-introduce your edit again. Cheers, LessHeard vanU (talk) 13:07, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

If I may make a suggestion, when posting to ANI or similar high trafficked pages; when you have composed your comment instead of pressing "Save page" instead highlight your text, save it to your clipboard and press "cancel". Then again hit the edit function and paste your comment into the correct place and then hit "Save page". Hopefully the less elapsed time will mean that you will not create a situation where other editors comments are lost. Cheers, LessHeard vanU (talk) 20:46, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Brier

Brier is an expert on Polish-German relations and currently working at the German Historical Institute in Warsaw. The source is published by the University of Munich and very detailed. I don't see a reason not to use it. HerkusMonte (talk) 16:16, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Brier finished his studies in 2001 and worked at the Center for International Realtions in Warsaw in 2002-2003. I don't have more detailed informations about him. HerkusMonte (talk) 16:37, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

I’m sure you know how to deal with sources you consider unreliable, a simple deletion is not the right way. However, WP:RS gives just examples of reliable sources. WP:SOURCES explains it more detailed:

"Where available, academic and peer-reviewed publications are usually the most reliable sources (...). But they are not the only reliable sources in such areas. Material from reliable non-academic sources may also be used, (...) Other reliable sources include university-level (...) books published by respected publishing houses. Electronic media may also be used, subject to the same criteria."

I don’t know about Brier’s academic background at the time when he completed this study and whether it might be considered "scholary" per WP:RS. It is for sure on a university-level and it is published at the Bavarian State Library's and University of Munich’s digital library, a highly respected institution. If you disagree you might use the appropriate way to solve the problem. HerkusMonte (talk) 16:37, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

On behalf of WikiProject Poland

		The Polish Barnstar of National Merit, 2nd Class
		On behalf of WikiProject Poland, for your your Poland-related contributions, I, Piotrus, award you this Polish Barnstar of National Merit, 2nd Class. Czołem! _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus\| talk} 01:02, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
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