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Advice:William Riefkohl

Post the fact that the article was nominated for deletion at the Puerto Rico Project page. Tony the Marine (talk) 19:59, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Expressed my opinion: Keep! Pr4ever (talk) 02:06, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Happy Birthday

Happy Birthday!

Concept

Nice! I checked it out and it looked real good. Hey, I didn't know that it was your Birthday this month, so "Happy Birthday", better late then never, right? Tony the Marine (talk) 05:18, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

You be the judge

I invite you to read: You be the judge.Tony the Marine (talk) 19:50, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Republica Boricua

Wonderful! Recommend = "The Ducoudray Holstein independence expedition" Tony the Marine (talk) 20:30, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• I would go with "The Ducoudray Holstein expedition". Tony the Marine (talk) 16:14, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• • Now, here is something that has to be made clear. In the early 1800s, the main military powerhouses in the Caribbean were Spain, England, France and Holland (Dutch-Danish). In the article it appears that the island of "San Bartolomé" was "Swedish", yet the Swedes were never a powerhouse. I know that there are various places which are identified as "San Bartolomé". Are we talking about the "San Bartolomé" which is located in the Galápagos Province of Ecuador? That needs to be clarified.

There is something interesting which you may want to read about what happened to Antonio Valero de Bernabe in 1823, in the section "The Liberator from Puerto Rico" Tony the Marine (talk) 19:14, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• I had to correct myself in your article, because I forgot that France gave the island of "San Bartolomé" to Sweden in payment of a debt. They used to do that in those days. The Kingdom of Genoa gave France the island of Corsica to France as a debt payment. Que falta de respecto a los residentes de esa's islas. Tony the Marine (talk) 19:16, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ducoudray Holstein Expedition

Feliz Día del Pavo (Gracias)

Feliz Día de Gracias Tony the Marine (talk), 25 November 2010

Wall of Honor

El Johnson, you have been among the best people that I have ever interacted with. Your contributions to Puerto Rico related articles are spectacular, therefore it is with great pleasure that I have placed your user name in my Wall of Honor. Tony the Marine (talk) 18:17, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Feliz Navidad y un Prospero Año Nuevo

Well my brother, here is wishing you the best. Tony the Marine (talk) 19:15, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Invitation to join WikiProject United States

Invitation to join WikiProject United States

Opinion request

You may want to express your opinion on the subject if an article about Puerto Ricans in the US Space program should exist here. Tony the Marine (talk) 23:15, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

FYI

Hello. The article about the Centro del Sur mall is being nominated for deletion. You may wish to particpate in the discussion taking place HERE. Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 23:18, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Consensus

It has been suggested that the "List of Puerto Ricans" be moved and renamed "List of notable Puerto Ricans". The current name reflects a misleading title since it is politcally incoreect and may lead to the misconception that any Puerto Rican may be included regardless of the explanation given in the introduction. Misplaced Pages does not allow that the term "famous" be used since that term depends on the perspection of what an individual may consider what the term "famous" means, however the term "notable" is widely accepted by Misplaced Pages since there is an established criteria of the meaning of the term and there are variuos "lists" in Misplaced Pages which currently use the term notable. Therefore, I am calling on a 7 day consensus as to the renaming the current list to "List of notable Puerto Ricans". Go to: List of Puerto Ricans-Consensus Tony the Marine (talk) 17:49, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

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Re: Felicidades!

Gracias, it is always nice to know that someone remembered. Tony the Marine (talk) 18:43, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

PR-133

Hi. Regarding your edits HERE, I observe that the references located HERE, HERE and HERE name the street "Federico Parra Duperan", and not "Francisco Parra Duperan" as you stated. Thus there seems to be an inconsistency between the name you added and the name as documented in the citations. Can you clariy your rationale for the changes? Thanks, Mercy11 (talk) 02:25, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Yes I have seen that in Google maps and in some places they call the street "Federico Parra Duperan" not Francisco Parra DuperÓn as it is actually called. I drive thru that street every day after work and there are three metal plaques in different building calling it by its real name. Also the book i referenced has a small bio of the man which I just created the article and it mentions that ALL of comercio street was renamed Francisco Parra Duperon street. Although to this day most people call most of it Comercio street, I spoke to the lady in charge of the historic archive of ponce and she told me that all of comercio is called F.P.D. street, and that she has been telling the Alcaldia for years to change some of the street signs. So you see I have been researching and found there are 2 mistakes, one, there is no FEDERICO PARRA DUPERAN, and two, there all of Calle Comercio is actually called Calle F. Parra Duperon. El Johnson (talk) 13:46, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. My concern is that we document reality as it exists. If we check the maps (google, US Govt, PR gov., Ponce Municipal Gov, USGS, etc), since the street is not named consistently, I think the most reasonable thing to do is to ask, how do the maps, the street signs, building plaques, etc., *most* commonly called it, Comercio and/or Federico Parra Duperan or Francisco Parra Duperan? Who did you speak to at Archivo Historico de Ponce, Gladys Tormos, Elizabeth Armstrong, someone else? While they are both knowlegable about these things, as you know this sort of info needs to be documented in a -secondary- source to be included in Misplaced Pages. Maybe your source "lady" at Archivo Historico got her info from a certain drawer/box number (this is the way their cataloging system was setup many decades ago) that we could cite. I would be cautions, however, about going just by what a city employee says w/o factual citation that can be checked by others at anytime. You also mention the three building metal plaques naming the street Francisco Parra Duperon. However, if you check the East side of the "Legislatura Municipal Autonoma" building (the old "El Cometa" building) located diagonally across from Banco de Ponce building on Plaza Las Delicias, you will note a "Ave. Jose Celso Barbosa" metal plaque at what everyone knows as Calle Marina. A second similar plaque exists on the West side of the Old Ponce Casino building at Marina and Luna streets. Again, everyone knows that street as Marina street, not Jose C. Barbosa, despite what the metal plaque on some of the buildings say. As for maps, I know they can be a source of inconsistensy at times. For example, at one point Calle Villa was renamed Avenida Simon Bolivar and it appears so in many official maps, yet everyone keeps calling it Calle Villa to this day, including the municipal street signs. (At least for some maps, it is also possible this inconsistency may have to do with not having been updated at the time we access them.) On a related matter, you might know that Avenida Las Americas was recently renamed Boulevar Luis A. Ferre. For now I continue to keep the "Avenida Las Americas" name on the PR-163 article because everyone knows where Avenida Las Americas is, but not everyone knows about Boulevard Luis A. Ferre yet. Keeping Avenida Las Americas in the document helps avoid confusion, and when I get a chance I will also include a note in that other article to the effect that its name was changed to Boulevar Luis A. Ferre. You also say the "real name" of the street is Francisco Parra Duperon, but how do you define "real name"? We should be careful not to give undue due. For example, the book you referenced with the small bio of the Francisco Parra Duperon may be in the minority of sources that call the street Francisco Parra Duperon. A more reasonable way of defining "real name" may be to check what the USPS calls it. For example, Calle 2 in Belgica is now called Calle Cuba, after the USPS mandated a street name change last year. As for PR-133, and given the multitude of names it is known by, I think we should just call it Calle Comercio, but include a note that it goes by the other 4 less commonly known names. What do you think? Saludos, Mercy11 (talk) 15:55, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

I talked to Gladys Tormos. In any case the Federico Parra Duperan is the most incorrect name of all of them, since the man whom they named the street after is Francisco Parra Duperón. Here are two internet sources that call it FPD Street, , as for the book it mentions that the street is commonly called Calle Comercio, but that it was actually changed to Francisco Parra Duperón. BTW if you could get a copy of the book, it would be of grat use to you since it covers a lot about Ponce and many of its landmarks, clubs, and people. I think that it should be mentioned that it is most commonly called and known as Comercio, but that it was changed by the city to Francisco Parra Duperón. It is reality and we have the sources. El Johnson (talk) 16:19, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

PS I have always wondered, do you live in Ponce? Just curious.. El Johnson (talk) 16:19, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

It is wonderful you have sources! I almost forgot to mention that, after your research, I was inclined to believe that FEDERICO Parra Duperon was an incorrect name to begin with - as you correctly further clarified above. I will try get that book; may be out of print since it was printed almost 50 yrs ago. I do have an Album Historico de Ponce, but by a different author, that was printed in the last couple of years. I will try straighten out the article based on what you and I have discussed here - unless you can get to it before I do! It would be of most help if we had more info about the official name change such as the date of the change, the authority that ordered the change (the city), a reference to the change "proclamation" text, ect. (I would love to have such info for Marina and Villa streets, etc, in much the same way we have it for Avenida Las Americas.) I hate the tira-y-jala with street names in Ponce!... check out PR-12 and see it is known by some 3 or 4 different names too (Ave. Malecon, Calle E, PR-12, PR-14, Santiago de los Caballeros, uff). Yes, I have lived in Ponce but now I am more or less stateless. Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 17:26, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Made the changes and simplified things a bit. Check it out and let me know. Saludos, Mercy11 (talk) 17:15, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

RUM Natatorium

Those are beautiful pictures you took of the pool. I'm wondering if you know who runs the RUM pool that I can get a hold of to schedule pool time? I can't find any information on the RUM website? Thanks! Newknee2005 (talk) 18:13, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

You can express yourself

I am sick an tired of the BS that goes on here in Misplaced Pages. I would like for you to check out the link here and if you wish express yourself. Urgent participation requested. Thank you. Tony the Marine (talk) 23:19, 6 July 2011 (UTC)