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| ::: Thank for (even in retirement!) being there to help, RD. I'd like to politely request that Mbz1's block log be reinstated. I know you RevDel'd her unblock from Gwen Gale in good faith that Mbz1 was leaving, but she obviously wasn't. If you're going to retire, there's no guarantee that she won't return one of these days, and you may not be around to explain why the block was RevDel'd in the first place. ] (]) 20:08, 1 August 2011 (UTC) | ::: Thank for (even in retirement!) being there to help, RD. I'd like to politely request that Mbz1's block log be reinstated. I know you RevDel'd her unblock from Gwen Gale in good faith that Mbz1 was leaving, but she obviously wasn't. If you're going to retire, there's no guarantee that she won't return one of these days, and you may not be around to explain why the block was RevDel'd in the first place. ] (]) 20:08, 1 August 2011 (UTC) | ||
| ::::"in good faith that Mbz1 was leaving, but she obviously wasn't." - I don't see it that way, it's more of a "hanging around outside the open door" than "not leaving", and the door is now closed. Anyway I think it's enough to state here that if she returns, the revdel should be undone. ] <sup>]</sup> 20:16, 1 August 2011 (UTC) | ::::"in good faith that Mbz1 was leaving, but she obviously wasn't." - I don't see it that way, it's more of a "hanging around outside the open door" than "not leaving", and the door is now closed. Anyway I think it's enough to state here that if she returns, the revdel should be undone. ] <sup>]</sup> 20:16, 1 August 2011 (UTC) | ||
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| Hi Rd232! | |||
| Giannone's text is an unreliable source, which misrepresents Kenneth Bollen's research (attributing to Bollen the views of Edward S. Herman, which Bollen discussed along with positive evaluations of FH and the methodology of FH). Your extensive citation of an unreliable and POV-pushing paper created POV problems for the article. | |||
| It would help if you would (at least) provide page references for Giannone's text, which would clarify that your addition comes mostly from page 69. | |||
| Sincerely, <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">].]</span></small> 07:59, 4 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
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- Archives of previous messages: to October 2005; October 2005 to Dec 2008; to May 2009; to August 2009; to 15 November 2009; to 13 May 2010; to 2 Dec 2010; to 11 May 2011; to 31 July 2011.
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I'm suddenly struck that Misplaced Pages has become more trouble than it's worth. I may return one day; having forgot what it's like (I did before, after long absence) if so I hope it won't be soon. PS yes, the cumulative crapness of and around the current Arbcom case figures in this, as it illustrates vividly how this part of Misplaced Pages dispute resolution is also in dire need of improvement; but it's more like the straw that broke the camel's back. And I know me; in response to this case I'll have more desire to improve dispute resolution, and it won't work, and be a gigantic waste of time. I've got better things to do, and to waste my time on... So I reject this putative move of mine to spend more time on Misplaced Pages, with a counter-move that says "nope. The End. (For A Good Long While, At Least)". Rd232 11:01, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
- Best of luck in all you do Rd. — Ched : ? 11:12, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks; likewise. I've burned my 4k+ watchlist (raw mode edit -> Ctrl+A -> delete), so that'll help make this stick. Rd232 13:14, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
- Likewise, best wishes. --JN466 14:57, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
- -Take care, hope to see you back
sooneventually. Throwaway85 (talk) 15:18, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
Sorry to see you "retire", I've always appreciated and valued your work here. The frustration is understandable, though. --NSH001 (talk) 16:06, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
Hope to see you back before too long. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:23, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
Sorry to see you go, but good luck to you. Always a fan of your work here. Dayewalker (talk) 18:37, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
- What led to this is just sickening. That is all. CycloneGU (talk) 19:26, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
Glad you "got it". Sorry you have left. Hope you return soon. Ben MacDui 19:38, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
- Good luck in everything Rd232. Perhaps given time you'll come back. I can say that my limited interactions with MMN were some of the worst experiences I've had online and am not surprised you feel like this after all that's happened. But seriously take a rest and enjoy yourself and maybe we'll see you again on WP in the future--Cailil 21:09, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
AN notice
Well not that you care much now, Mr. Retiree :) but for the sake of formality I'm letting you know that I brought some of the mbz junk to AN...not the block and revdel issue directly, but the fact that she is now using her page to label other editors trolls, complete with pretty pictures. Tarc (talk) 19:27, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
- Um, well, I'd say this breaches my informal email agreement with mbz1 not to use her talk page to say things like that, and the agreed consequence was to reblock without talkpage access. So I've done that (post-retirement, since I'm in a unique position to handle it). Rd232 19:39, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
- Well that solves that, pretty much. Thanks. Tarc (talk) 20:01, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
- Thank for (even in retirement!) being there to help, RD. I'd like to politely request that Mbz1's block log be reinstated. I know you RevDel'd her unblock from Gwen Gale in good faith that Mbz1 was leaving, but she obviously wasn't. If you're going to retire, there's no guarantee that she won't return one of these days, and you may not be around to explain why the block was RevDel'd in the first place. Dayewalker (talk) 20:08, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
- "in good faith that Mbz1 was leaving, but she obviously wasn't." - I don't see it that way, it's more of a "hanging around outside the open door" than "not leaving", and the door is now closed. Anyway I think it's enough to state here that if she returns, the revdel should be undone. Rd232 20:16, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
- Thank for (even in retirement!) being there to help, RD. I'd like to politely request that Mbz1's block log be reinstated. I know you RevDel'd her unblock from Gwen Gale in good faith that Mbz1 was leaving, but she obviously wasn't. If you're going to retire, there's no guarantee that she won't return one of these days, and you may not be around to explain why the block was RevDel'd in the first place. Dayewalker (talk) 20:08, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
- Well that solves that, pretty much. Thanks. Tarc (talk) 20:01, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
Freedom in the World: RS/POV/Copyright concerns regarding Giannone
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Hi Rd232!
Giannone's text is an unreliable source, which misrepresents Kenneth Bollen's research (attributing to Bollen the views of Edward S. Herman, which Bollen discussed along with positive evaluations of FH and the methodology of FH). Your extensive citation of an unreliable and POV-pushing paper created POV problems for the article.
It would help if you would (at least) provide page references for Giannone's text, which would clarify that your addition comes mostly from page 69.
Sincerely, Kiefer.Wolfowitz 07:59, 4 August 2011 (UTC)