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| :::You are misrepresenting ]: "Quotations should generally be worked into the article text, so as not to inhibit the pace, flow and organization of the article." The current ] is that the placement of the quotes, at the beginning and to the side of sections, does not inhibit the article's pace, flow, or organization. ] (]) 13:18, 8 August 2011 (UTC) | :::You are misrepresenting ]: "Quotations should generally be worked into the article text, so as not to inhibit the pace, flow and organization of the article." The current ] is that the placement of the quotes, at the beginning and to the side of sections, does not inhibit the article's pace, flow, or organization. ] (]) 13:18, 8 August 2011 (UTC) | ||
| ::::For balance, should we include quotes like "Far left media outlets such as Democracy Now are not so much actual media outlets as they are pro Muslim propaganda machines for the spread of radical Islam"? I hope your are not arguing for only self-congratulatory adulations at the beginning? ] (]) 13:23, 8 August 2011 (UTC) | ::::For balance, should we include quotes like "Far left media outlets such as Democracy Now are not so much actual media outlets as they are pro Muslim propaganda machines for the spread of radical Islam"? I hope your are not arguing for only self-congratulatory adulations at the beginning? ] (]) 13:23, 8 August 2011 (UTC) | ||
| {{od}}Obviously not, because that quote does not come from a reliable source. It comes from a website called the "Alternative News Report." The full quote reads: | |||
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| "Democracy Now’s pro-Muslim and anti-Christian bias shows again in their lopsided reporting on events in the Ivory Coast. If you hate Christians and support all Muslim actions, no matter how radical or violent, then you will love the reporting that issues from Democracy Now. | |||
| Far left media outlets such as Democracy Now are not so much actual media outlets as they are pro Muslim propaganda machines for the spread of radical Islam globally. A more appropriate name for what they are doing might be: 'Global Jihad Now' as every single news item which covers the Mideast out of this portal is strongly slanted in support of the global Islamic cause." | |||
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| It is a racialist rant. ] (]) 16:10, 8 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
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Lannan Foundation, Ron Glaser & Air America
"At least $350,000 in grant money has been accepted by Democracy Now! since 2001 from the Lannan Foundation that was set up by the family of former ITT board member J. Peter Lannan. Over $100,000 in grants have also been given to Democracy Now! It's done by former Microsoft VP and Real Networks CEO Rob Glaser's Glaser Progress Foundation in recent years."
- Can we have a reference for these numbers? -plaus
"Glaser was also a major investor in the financially ailing Air America radio network."
- I've removed this bit, it's something for an article about Ron Glaser or Air America, it's unrelated to DN. -plaus
Theme Music
Does anyone know the title of the theme music? This may be interesting, at least to me. —Telofy (talk) 16:19, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
Please balance this article
This whole article reads like an advertisement for Democracy Now! I came here to find out what Democracy Now! is, but found only this sales brochure. I don't know enough to balance it, but plead with those who do for some help. At least add a "Criticisms of" paragraph to add some perspective.
Quotes
First, it is wrong to have a supporting quote in the awards section. It is not an award. Second, self-congratulatory quotes are not a proper part of the background. They may be in Wikiquote or if they illustrate something else in the text. But a free hanging quote without context is not encyclopedic.Miradre (talk) 14:57, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
- Anyone is welcome to add WP:BALANCE by adding criticism or opposing points of view. Formatted quotations are well-used throughout Misplaced Pages; see MOS:QUOTE and WP:QUOTE. Additionally, please use help find sources or use citation-needed tags rather than removing material. Thanks, Rostz (talk) 15:23, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
- From WP:QUOTE: "Quotations should generally be worked into the article text, so as not to inhibit the pace, flow and organization of the article." Also, quoteboxes are discouraged. I have added citation needed tags. However, unsourced material can be challenged and removed.Miradre (talk) 15:30, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
- You have also abruptly removed readily-sourced material; please consider adopting a less contentious and more courteous editing style. Per WP:V, "Editors might object if you remove material without giving them time to provide references. It has always been good practice to try to find and cite supporting sources yourself." Rostz (talk) 13:18, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
- From WP:QUOTE: "Quotations should generally be worked into the article text, so as not to inhibit the pace, flow and organization of the article." Also, quoteboxes are discouraged. I have added citation needed tags. However, unsourced material can be challenged and removed.Miradre (talk) 15:30, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
- I agree with Rostz, the quotes are fine and not overdone. Redthoreau -- (talk) 04:36, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
- According to WP:QUOTE quoteboxes should not be used and quotes should be worked into the text.Miradre (talk) 07:27, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
- You are misrepresenting WP:QUOTE: "Quotations should generally be worked into the article text, so as not to inhibit the pace, flow and organization of the article." The current WP:CONSENSUS is that the placement of the quotes, at the beginning and to the side of sections, does not inhibit the article's pace, flow, or organization. Rostz (talk) 13:18, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
- For balance, should we include quotes like "Far left media outlets such as Democracy Now are not so much actual media outlets as they are pro Muslim propaganda machines for the spread of radical Islam"? I hope your are not arguing for only self-congratulatory adulations at the beginning? Miradre (talk) 13:23, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
- You are misrepresenting WP:QUOTE: "Quotations should generally be worked into the article text, so as not to inhibit the pace, flow and organization of the article." The current WP:CONSENSUS is that the placement of the quotes, at the beginning and to the side of sections, does not inhibit the article's pace, flow, or organization. Rostz (talk) 13:18, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
- According to WP:QUOTE quoteboxes should not be used and quotes should be worked into the text.Miradre (talk) 07:27, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Obviously not, because that quote does not come from a reliable source. It comes from a website called the "Alternative News Report." The full quote reads:
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"Democracy Now’s pro-Muslim and anti-Christian bias shows again in their lopsided reporting on events in the Ivory Coast. If you hate Christians and support all Muslim actions, no matter how radical or violent, then you will love the reporting that issues from Democracy Now. Far left media outlets such as Democracy Now are not so much actual media outlets as they are pro Muslim propaganda machines for the spread of radical Islam globally. A more appropriate name for what they are doing might be: 'Global Jihad Now' as every single news item which covers the Mideast out of this portal is strongly slanted in support of the global Islamic cause." |
It is a racialist rant. Mathsci (talk) 16:10, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
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