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I would encourage you to read and take part in the discussion underway at ]. <font style="font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> <span style="text-shadow:#0099cc 0.12em 0.12em 0.12em; class=texhtml"> ''''']'''''</span> ] 16:02, 10 August 2011 (UTC) I would encourage you to read and take part in the discussion underway at ]. <font style="font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> <span style="text-shadow:#0099cc 0.12em 0.12em 0.12em; class=texhtml"> ''''']'''''</span> ] 16:02, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
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I've never understood how a sign identifying a public building could be a copyright violation? Billy Hathorn (talk) 04:54, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

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DYK for George T. Walker

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Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

John K. Snyder

Hey, I see that the John K. Snyder article says that he went to Georgia Tech and left (presumably around 1947). Do you have a reference I could use to cite that? —Disavian (/contribs) 17:07, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't recall the source; the article was written before in-line citations were required for Misplaced Pages articles. It should be in some of the citations at the bottom of the article unless it came from a telephone conversation with John K. Snyder, Jr. Billy Hathorn (talk)
This could be the source: "Snyder Dies", Alexandria Daily Town Talk, January 12, 1993. Billy Hathorn (talk) 17:12, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK

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DYK Eddie J Lambert

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DYK for Ralph Waldo Emerson Jones

Updated DYK queryOn 18 July 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ralph Waldo Emerson Jones, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that from 1936 to 1977, Ralph Waldo Emerson Jones was both president and head baseball coach of historically black Grambling State University in Louisiana? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

July 2011

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DYK for Wayne Christian

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DYK for John E. Guinn

Updated DYK queryOn 21 July 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article John E. Guinn, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Louisiana State Representative John E. Guinn, a father of ten children, earns his livelihood as an auctioneer? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thank you Victuallers (talk) 08:03, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Hollis Downs

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Gatoclass (talk) 16:24, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

I see the problem continues-- some POV tags on these articles might be useful. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:38, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
FWIW, I don't see the POV issues here at all. (Given that Sandy hasn't actually added a tag or made any changes to the article, I don't know that he/she really does either.) But I do agree with Sandy more broadly that your articles, especially DYK noms, need work on including more reliable sourcing; you and I discussed this issue on a previous nom if I recall. I do hope you'll continue to contribute to expanding this area though, just with these concerns in mind. Thanks for your work, and cheers, -- Khazar (talk) 04:12, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Bodi White

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DYK nomination of Hunter Greene

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Gordon Dove (Louisiana politician)

DYK nomination of Gordon Dove (Louisiana politician)

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DYK for Brett Geymann

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DYK discussion

You've been mentioned a few times at Misplaced Pages talk:Did you know#Daily DYK scandal - you may wish to comment. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:52, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Chuck Kleckley

Updated DYK queryOn 23 July 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Chuck Kleckley, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Louisiana State Rep. Chuck Kleckley has been instrumental in broadening the functions of the Lake Charles Harbor and Terminal District? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Another nomination promoted by the DYK project. Well done. Victuallers (talk) 00:05, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

About your editing

Please familiarize yourself with the following pages:

Every article of yours I have looked at is built on non-reliable sources and contains close paraphrasing, plagiarism, BLP violations, and non-reliable sources. If these issues continue, and if DYK chooses to continue to feature these policy breaches on the mainpage, I will ask independent admins to look into your editing. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:48, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Hey Billy, content contribution is like white water rafting a bit - too close to sources and we veer close to copyvio, too far and it's into OR or synthesis. I am thinking we just need to steer a bit further from wording at sources. I have done a bit here and there. If you have any questions on how something can be worded differently, just ask and I will try to come up with something. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 15:01, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas G. Carmody

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Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Plagiarism documented in the discussion at WT:DYK. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:34, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Discussion at Misplaced Pages Talk:Did you know

Hi Billy. I wanted to let you know that there is a discussion regarding some of your editing at the DYK talk page. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:26, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Calmhead mate with the DYKs. Its not a competition!! You've suddenly even passed Geschichte!♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:25, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

What is the problem here? I wrote some articles on state legislators, all properly sourced and documented. I can't imagine someone spending his timne challenging these little artcles? No one except myself has ever found errors in any of my articles. None of the subjects to my knowledge has complained. It's not plagirism to rewrite someone else's words and given that person as the source. I won't be available for another ten days on Misplaced Pages. Billy Hathorn (talk) 11:05, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

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Not a copyright violation. Material is paraphrased and properly sourced and documented from several sources. Billy Hathorn (talk) 11:08, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

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I have committed no copyright violations; this is a red herring. The most recent violation alleged, Bill Noel, failed to be proved. Billy Hathorn (talk) 04:49, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
I'm sorry you feel that way, but I disagree. At least with images, you have committed plenty of copyright violations. On the subject of images, let me be frank:
You cannot take photographs of other people's work and then upload those photographs as "own work". It's not just disingenuous, it's a violation of copyright, and Misplaced Pages cannot tolerate such behavior. You need to describe, in detail, where the image was taken, who created the original work, and what copyright status the original work has. If you don't know the answer to any of those three questions, you shouldn't upload the image. If you do know the answer to each of those three questions, it needs to go into a Template:Information template. If the copyright status of the origional work is more restrictive than you're release (i.e. if it's still copyrighted) then your photo has to be treated as fair use rather than free use, regardless of anything else. It dosen't matter if you took the photo, your act of taking the photo does not erase the copyright that was already there. I strongly recommend that you cease uploading photographs of other photographs/books/museum displays. The rest of your images are fine, you're only getting into trouble (in images) with this one subset of works. Sven Manguard Wha? 07:58, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
Those disputed images you mention (most three years ago) should in many cases fall under "fair use." If not, what exactly is "fair use"? Billy Hathorn (talk) 13:32, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

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Nomination of Virginia Martinez (Louisiana politician) for deletion

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See also Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Bob Bruce (Texas journalist) Karanacs (talk) 17:52, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

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  • I now see that this copyvio dates to January 2011, and predates the current discussion; nonetheless, other issues are occurring in your editing, and I agree with HJMitchell's removal of your autopatrolled status, as you are still creating articles that aren't compliant with policy; in particular, you are still padding articles with irrelevant info, using non-reliable sources, paraphrasing too closely, and in one case I found, misrepresenting (or misunderstanding) a source. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:24, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Autopatrolled

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A barnstar for you!

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Thanks for your contributions! Bullmoosebell (talk) 16:28, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK

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Proposal to ban Billy Hathorn from DYK

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Per that discussion, you are banned from DYK until there is sufficient evidence, both through your own discussion and contributions, that these issues will not happen again. See here. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 18:24, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

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