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=====<big>08 August 2011</big>===== | |||
;Suspected sockpuppets | |||
* {{checkuser|1=Vandorenfm}} | |||
* {{checkuser|1=Gorzaim}} | |||
* {{checkuser|1=Vidovler}} | |||
* {{checkip|1=MarshallBagramyan}} | |||
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I am reporting the user names above because their activity is very suspicious and I will explain. Firstly, look at recent block of {{userlinks|Bars77}}. It is the account that was created by {{userlinks|Xebulon}} to come back to Misplaced Pages after he was blocked and after his sockpuppet user names . So when that he is Xebulon, I reverted his and his friends POV here because from June they were inserting POV alltogether and because Xebulon knew that his Bars77 user name will be discovered soon, that's why he and his 2 friends (who are registered to do only this kind of edits) were in hurry to leave more POV as much as possible before administrators catched them. I reverted and they came to his defence, first here to protect sock Bars77, and then here by reporting me . Please take into consideration that this report is not for retaliative action. This is to show how three accounts edited as socks and were acting as ducks as per ]. | |||
It's enough to look at contributions history of ] to see how these accounts made alternation of their actions and inserted the same POV in support of each other . | |||
Look at history of contribution by who made no contribution to new articles (except his own creation of his own user page) and how he was used to insert POV and do actions in support of other user names in ] and ]. Do you see other good, healthy, good faith edits of this user? | |||
Look at history of contribution of who created account and then his first edits were protection of ] and then the time from that date he was only doing edits in ] page and now ] page ducking for Bars77 (proved sock) and Gorzaim who is also in the beginning. | |||
It is very suspicious that these names don't edit and then come make edits together with new accounts. The same history is with ] who only (no other good faith creation of article or other activity, just support of edit wars) and was blocked once by HelloAnnyoung. He then stoped editing, maybe because he was sock of blocked user name. Look at how MarshallBagramyan is protecting him also . Also, take into consideration how {{userlinks|MarshallBagramyan}} slowed his activity when these trio were acting. I am also bringing to your attention that MarshallBagramyan already is known as sockpuppet master. Look at one of his sockpuppets ]. | |||
Please look at these user names, because it is very clear there is off Misplaced Pages coordination and that they act susupiciously. ] (]) 14:00, 8 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
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It's not fishing trip. The user names that I showed are related because they are not active and become active only when one of them becomes active. Please look at their contributions of each one. Everybody thought Bars77 was a new editor but it was discovered it is Xebulon. These user names are created to come, enter much POV before they are catched by administrators. | |||
] (sock of Xebulon) registers on 22 June (), then starts massive POV editing on ] page on June 28, makes 7 edits, and then all of sudden ] comes on July 2 after long absence from 5 June, then on the same day Bars comes and makes 19 edits until 12 July, Vandorenfm continues on 13 July, makes 11 edits. Then, ] NPOV-s the article from their edits on 14 July () making it neutral, but Bars77 comes and reverts to Vandorenfm () on the same day. Then Vandorenfm goes again with 4 edits and when ] reverts POV '''except good faith input''' (), Bars77 reverts him back to Vandorenfm () and then makes 16 edits () especially trying to insert POV and delete reference that Nagorno-Karabakh is not internationally recognized territory of Azerbaijan. When I make this edit () and explain it on the talk page (here ) revealing tricks of Bars77 who inputed false text which the source does not even state. Then on 19 July he reverts me again to his version and deletes reference to Kingdom of Aghvank changing it to "region's earliest monarchs" trying to delete reference and hide the fact that Karabakh had Albanian rules not Armenian. ( in this diff I skipped my intermediate revert to show how much of his own text he changed). On the same day, on 19 July Gorzaim who did not edit from 17 June, comes right to this page where massive editing by his friends is taking place. | |||
I am not going to show all diffs here because it will take 5 pages, but looking on history of Nagorno-Karabakh page (look here ) since end of June, you will see that it was edited '''with POV''' by mainly three users who are Bars77, Vandorenfm and Gorzaim who were alternating each other, which means one made several edits, then another one came and made several more POV edits and if for example Vandorenfm was reverted, Bars77 was reverting back to his version. It's very clear that Bars77 was of lower importance because he was pushed to make reverts because if he was reported he would be found as sock because he was editing from same IP as Xebulon. The other two users were ducking from different IPs from Xebulon but are clearly someone else's alternative accounts. | |||
The picture is clear when you just looks at page of their contributions, how they registered and what kind of edits they made and how they were silent but came to '''massively''' edit and support each other when one of them came to insert POV. | |||
I mentioned MarshallBagramyan, because one of first edits of Vandorenfm's was support of MarshallBagramyan in the Enforcement page . How would a new user know who MarshallBagramian is if there are no connection with Marshall which is invisible to readers like you and me? I also mentioned ] because it's a similar user name with the same type of history of contributions . He was blocked () and then disappeared again. Maybe he was even ]. | |||
When you have so many sockpuppet masters like , , , , who keep being discovered sockpuppets often, how can new suspicious users be ignored? ] (]) 13:37, 9 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
Look how Vandorenfm is making comments when administrator from Enforcement page says '''he''' is the user who is mistreating Misplaced Pages and asks to put sanctions on him . You know why Vandorenfm? Because you clearly show your purpose in Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 18:24, 9 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
Suddenly all the users which were reported became inactive :) ] (]) 12:57, 10 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
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<nowiki>*</nowiki>yawn* seems like another boring family fishing trip...--] (]) 04:10, 9 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
I am disturbed and annoyed by this frivolous and baseless SPI request by ] who is misusing SPI as a tool to enforce his position in an edit war. ] provided no evidence of sockpuppetry whatsoever even after he was explicitly asked to furnish new evidence. I agree with ] and the SPI administrator that this is a bad-faith "fishing trip" but believe that ] shall be held accountable for misusing SPIs. ] (]) 17:30, 9 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
======<span style="font-size:150%">Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments</span>====== | |||
*{{clerknote}} This isn't a fishing trip; not every editor who edits on Nagorno is a sock. Marshall is an old account; Vandorenfm was previously checked; Vidovler hasn't edited in awhile. This SPI case isn't meant to be a place to continue a long term edit war, so either give ''concrete'' details (diffs, e.g.) or this case is being closed. — ] <sup>]</sup> 01:07, 9 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
*{{clerknote}} Alright, I'm closing this thing. Relist if you have some actual evidence. — ] <sup>]</sup> 03:25, 11 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
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