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== <Insert the case name> == == Senkaku Islands ==
'''Initiated by ''' ] (]) '''at''' 09:39, 13 August 2011 (UTC) '''Initiated by ''' ] (]) '''at''' 09:39, 13 August 2011 (UTC)


=== Involved parties === === Involved parties ===
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*{{userlinks|username1}}, ''filing party'' *{{admin|Qwyrxian}}, ''filing party''
*{{userlinks|username2}} *{{userlinks|Tenmei}}
*{{userlinks|username3}} *{{userlinks|Bobthefish2}}
*{{userlinks|username4}} *{{userlinks|STSC}}
*{{userlinks|Oda Mari}}
*{{userlinks|Phoenix7777}}
*{{userlinks|John Smith's}}
*{{userlinks|Benlisquare}}
*{{admin|Penwhale}}
*{{admin|Feezo}}
*{{admin|Magog the Ogre}}
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;Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request ;Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
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*Diff. 1
*Diff. 2


;Confirmation that other steps in ] have been tried ;Confirmation that other steps in ] have been tried
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*See below in Statement by Qwyrxian
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*Link 2
=== Statement by {Party 1} === === Statement by Qwyrxian ===
] and ] have been the subject of dispute as far back as 2003 (See ]). ] has been protected 5 times, including twice in the past year, and is currently fully protected. ] has been protected 5 times since its creation in October 2010, and is currently fully protected. The issues being debated range from individual word and grammatical choices, to identifying and interpreting RS's, to overall organization. One of the most persistent arguments revolves around the article title itself. The page has been moved unilaterally several times (see ), but was moved back each time. Various steps of dispute resolution have been taken; none have succeeding in ending the disputes. Specifically:

*July 2007—]: Request to move to "Pinnacle Islands".
*September 2009—]: Request to move to "Pinnacle Islands".
*November 2010—]: RfC on the article title.
*May – July 2011—]: MedCom mediation.

Also, issues relating to these pages have been raised on noticeboards and Wikitalk pages, including ''']''' (]), ''']''' (]), ''']''' (], ], ]), ''']''' (4 discussions, see ), and possibly others.

The aforementioned Mediation failed. It closed after numerous editors were unable to behave and stay on topic; eventually, several editors abandoned mediation and it closed without any useful result. These behavioral problems have been rampant on the article talk pages and related user talk pages since 2010. Some editors have held that no matter what consensus says, . Others have used . Others . One editor was taken to WQA for xyr behaviors on these pages (]); another was the subject of an RFC/U (]). While in the past I had hoped to use the DR process to solve our problems, I have come to believe that until the behavioral problems are corrected, we will be unable to make constructive progress on the article content.

Finally, I would like to state that I am aware of the fact that ArbCom does not rule on content; however, if the committee accepts this case, and has any suggestions about how to settle the naming issue such as a binding RfC, a site-wide vote as happened for ], etc., input would be appreciated. The name has been one of the sticking points that keeps us from progressing on to actual article improvement, and so a lasting solution is highly desirable.


=== Statement by {Party 2} === === Statement by {Party 2} ===

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Senkaku Islands

Initiated by Qwyrxian (talk) at 09:39, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Involved parties

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  • See below in Statement by Qwyrxian

Statement by Qwyrxian

Senkaku Islands and ] have been the subject of dispute as far back as 2003 (See Talk:Senkaku Islands/Archive 1). Senkaku Islands has been protected 5 times, including twice in the past year, and is currently fully protected. Senkaku Islands dispute has been protected 5 times since its creation in October 2010, and is currently fully protected. The issues being debated range from individual word and grammatical choices, to identifying and interpreting RS's, to overall organization. One of the most persistent arguments revolves around the article title itself. The page has been moved unilaterally several times (see page logs), but was moved back each time. Various steps of dispute resolution have been taken; none have succeeding in ending the disputes. Specifically:

Also, issues relating to these pages have been raised on noticeboards and Wikitalk pages, including WP:NORN (Misplaced Pages:No original research/Noticeboard/Archive 15#Figure captions in Senkaku Island/Diaoyutai article), WP:NPOVN (Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard/Archive 20#Long running dispute on Senkaku Islands dispute), WP:ANI (Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive8#Senkaku Islands stolen?, Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive644#Senkaku Islands dispute, Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive712#Senkaku Islands - admin COI intervention), WT:NCGN (4 discussions, see search results), and possibly others.

The aforementioned Mediation failed. It closed after numerous editors were unable to behave and stay on topic; eventually, several editors abandoned mediation and it closed without any useful result. These behavioral problems have been rampant on the article talk pages and related user talk pages since 2010. Some editors have held that no matter what consensus says, the current article title will never be acceptable. Others have used baiting and borderline personal attacks. Others overwhelm the talk page with extremely complex and nearly impossible to follow philosophical arguments and graphics. One editor was taken to WQA for xyr behaviors on these pages (Misplaced Pages:Wikiquette assistance/archive99#User:Bobthefish2); another was the subject of an RFC/U (Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Tenmei). While in the past I had hoped to use the DR process to solve our problems, I have come to believe that until the behavioral problems are corrected, we will be unable to make constructive progress on the article content.

Finally, I would like to state that I am aware of the fact that ArbCom does not rule on content; however, if the committee accepts this case, and has any suggestions about how to settle the naming issue such as a binding RfC, a site-wide vote as happened for Liancourt Rocks, etc., input would be appreciated. The name has been one of the sticking points that keeps us from progressing on to actual article improvement, and so a lasting solution is highly desirable.

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