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Montenegro?

Well, all those previous problems have been solved now. :)

Dear friend; on my talk page you said Tell me something, I can understand why Kosovo and is autonomous, can suspect why Montenegro is autonomous (they used to be a seperate country),.... Could you clarify the bold part? I didn't really understand it in the first place. --HolyRomanEmperor 16:35, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Serbia and Montenegro are two seperate states only sharing a (very loosse) union.

Also, tell me please, are high Project edit counts a must-have for Administratorship? One User pointed that out on my RfA... --HolyRomanEmperor 16:47, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

It is united in the form of a Federation of two states, only there are a few peculiarities: 1.Montenegro has unilaterally accepted the Euro(!), therefore, Serbia and Montenegro have different official currency! 2.There is a referendum that will take place end of this July to vote for separation. Polls read 60% against. There is a joke in Belgrade about the timing, because nobody can arrange for summer vacation!! 3.Paradoxically, apart from these "political" differences, the two peoples are essentially both self-identified as Serbs! 4.There is much political debate about Federal property separation (read: exploitation, lubrication etc). 5.Strategically, if they split, Serbia will be coast-less and will lose a lot of touristic (+other) income. Hope I know it well. :-) NikoSilver 16:51, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Oh, and thanks for the suggestion. I'll archive it in a few more posts. --HolyRomanEmperor 16:52, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, pretty much what Niko said. :) --HolyRomanEmperor 16:54, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: RfA

Yes, thank you. I have read that (wouldn't accept in the first place if I didn't! :).

Anywhay, thanks for your optimism; but it seems that this Project thingy ruined me. I think that they should've noted that it's a must-have.

And, yes, I think that Montenegro would be better-off if it breaks the union
Yep. I told you that the Project was a necessity. No biggy. :) Anyway, I think that I'll refuse nominations since this moment. This is god-nows-which nomination & and I thought that I could accept this one.
I wonder why other Users constantly find me good enough to become an admin and ask to nominate/nominate me; but now vote Oppose :-D --HolyRomanEmperor 22:39, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Yeah. Well, I didn't really "with all of my heart" want to be an admin. It was merely a momentum initiated by User:CrnaGora's nomination. Although, I have to admit that it would've made reverting vandalism a lot easier. Perhaps I should try for a sysop instead? --HolyRomanEmperor 22:54, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Montenegrins

The Montenegrin issue is very hard to understand, friend. Montenegrins speak the Serbian language and are followers of the Serbian Orthodox Church. If we generalize, Montenegrins are in most cases the hardest of the Serbian political nationalist leadership. Like their House of Njegoš for instance (see my Petar II Petrović Njegoš article). Slobodan Milošević and Radovan Karadžić - the man second-in-responsibility for the Srebrenica massacre - are the two most infamous Montenegrins.

And yet, Montenegrins are a distinct ethnic group. Is it clearer now, my Hellenic friend? --HolyRomanEmperor 17:24, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

OK, OK

Do not get nervous. I was trying to make the context same as other ethnic groups in Macedonia, but if you want to stay like this - OK. BTW, the link should be: Macedonian Greek = Greeks, and not Macedonian Greek = Macedonia (Greece). Bomac 17:42, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Damir received a letter

...from someone claiming that you're pro-serbian? Ehm... the same thing happenned to me (a letter was sent to a user). Strangely, now I cannot make judgements without proof, and I ma quitte possibly wrong, but with whome were we both in conflict? --HolyRomanEmperor 18:31, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

How?

Hey, how is your rollback working? It's not working for me. --Khoikhoi 19:21, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I'll fix it later. Thanks. --Khoikhoi 00:05, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, but what about your forced edit summaries thing? --Khoikhoi 00:13, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
Ok, cool. :) I'll add it later as you-know-who is online right now... --Khoikhoi 00:19, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Well

I meant sysop abilities. They could be granted by a bureacrat as I've understood.

The tens of supporters of the Socialist Party of Serbia openly moarn, yell at the state for not protect him and openly assault newspapers, government's branches etc...

But in reality, no one really cares. I think that Miloshevich's age is what actually brought that. In reality, the Political public simply doesn't care if 100,000 or 1,000,000 Serbs were killed by the Ustašas in World War II, or the 10,000 Bosniaks at the Srebrenica Massacre. I think that the population is fed with it, so they no longer listen the Media. The only one who care about these activities are the high-ranked politicians who talk, and only talk... --HolyRomanEmperor 23:12, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Ratko Mladic

...has long ago been arrested by the authorities of SCG. Everyone knows that. What wonders me is their denial. I think that the government is testing the public for reaction, so it will deliver him to the Hague after all preparations have been made. The other possibility is that they are too afraid - his extraction would greatly boost the power of the Serbian Radical Party of Vojislav Šešelj. The third possibility I do not like - the radical incinuate that his surrender would mean proof that Republika Srpska was created solely on genocide, which would accordingly demand the abolishing of the Serbian Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina. While the (radical wing of the) Democrats consider him a far too dangerous monster to stay alive - they're all talking that suicide would be the best solution for Mladich... and I think that that might be (note: my theory) forcing him to do that... --HolyRomanEmperor 12:22, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Macedonians (ethnic group)/Archive7

You couldn't find it because I put it in the wrong place and then linked to where it should have been. Fixed now. Jkelly 18:58, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

The Montenegrins

...see Article 92 of the ol' Constitution of Montenegro. Can you make it out, or do you need translation-assistence?

Do you see what I mean? I am afraid that not even all Montenegrins gather to solve up this Montenegrin issue will be sufficient enough...

What do you think on this matter? --HolyRomanEmperor 19:48, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

ЦГГ

since you say that the block has expired for the user you say it is, why do you still think its him???

Reply

you've got mail. --Khoikhoi 23:36, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

...and agian. :) --Khoikhoi 23:54, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
On the Bitola page? --Khoikhoi 00:23, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
You've got mail. --Khoikhoi 00:35, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Replied. --Khoikhoi 01:18, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the alert

I have blocked 62.162.14.36 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) for 24 hours. Regards, Sango123 (e) 00:14, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

User:Feta

After seeing this edit from a user whose first edit was to this Talk page, I thought that I would ask you to have a word with him or her. Jkelly 20:54, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Done. --Latinus 21:04, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

...

in fact I admire jewishes, i wish modern greeks were acting as jewishes. BUT setting as a featured article the protocols, is provocative and its a propaganda. (i cant even imagine a featured article such as e.g. "macedonia was is and will be greek forever, slav macedonians are bad, americans are bad, european union is bad, everyone is bad etc" on wikipedia's first page.) thats my opinion and obviously not only mine, i respect and admire jewish power, but im not gonna shut up cuz i believe in democracy, and whoever doesnt believe in democracy and believes in facism, can block me.--Feta 21:29, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Blocked by User:Cyde. Thanks for trying , Latinus. Jkelly 22:49, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Να ρωτήσω κάτι αφελές? Αυτός ο χρήστης πήρε φραγή 24 ώρες για ένα σχόλιο ημι-παρεξηγήσιμο. Το "φασίστες" που φάγαμε στα μούτρα προχθές, τί τιμωρία χρειάζεται?  NikoSilver   23:01, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
DEN me kalypses.  NikoSilver   23:24, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok,thanks.den tha xana-anastrepsw ti selida pros to paron.--Hectorian 23:29, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

???

Latinus stop stalking me and stop accusing me of things i dont do! And in the future if you want to tell me something use my user talk page, not my IP adress talk page please. --Realek 23:17, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

No Personals attacks please

{{npa}}

concerning this:

I don't see a problem - economic blockades and vetos are our right and privilege. We'll even give the European Commission an opportunity to be creative when thinking up a new name for your country, nationality and language, Probably something like: Republic of Fyrom. --Latinus 01:22, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

You made threats and insults before, but its getting out of hand now --Realek 01:43, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

You might want to check this out. FunkyFly 03:44, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Dear Realek, that comment is not a personal attack, in fact it is incapable of being a personal attack. My expression of joy to the deliberations going on regarding the naming dispute cannot be a personal attack (even your government is participating in them). I understand that glorifying certain things (the Holocaust, terrorism etc) is not and never should be allowed, but I don't think the naming dispute has reached that level. On the other hand, your unwarranted accusations of Greece of genocide could be construed as personal attacks - would you care to answer this? As for the anon reversion, that IP is almost certainly is User:Bitola as it is from the same dynamic IP pool as the one he signed his name with and reverted to his version in the edit war - not to mention the fact that he did not deny the allegation (the anon - User:Bitola did) when I asked him. In case my suspicion was unfounded, I sent User:Bitola and e-mail of apology yesterday, you even see me mentioning it at his talk page. Apparently, you were not aware of this. I have a strong admiration for User:Bitola, he is one of the users I like. He has made some very useful contributions to Misplaced Pages, both on the form of images, new articles and contributions to existing articles. You on the other hand have been here for two weeks and since then have contributed nothing to the project, except edit warring and you have amassed two blocks in that time period. I have to inform you that you are no longer welcome on my talk page unless you actually make a material contribution: a new article, an image, anything... What you are doing now is unconstructive and a violation of WP:POINT. Regards, --Latinus 09:42, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

PS - keep those ugle templates off my talk page until you have an actual personal attack (see WP:NPA to see what personal attacks are) to complain about. --Latinus 09:42, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

You are a troll on rajput

. Have you answered my question yet? +10 000 thundering typhoons 09:32, 20 March 2006 (UTC)+

Latinus, thanx for helping out on that page despite everything. Regards, ImpuMozhi 19:51, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanx again for standing up for me on the complaints page. I appreciate it. I knew about the complaint, but only now saw your intervention. Regards, ImpuMozhi 13:54, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

My RFA withdrawal :(

Hello Latinus, it is my apologies to bring you that I've withdrawn my RFA. Due to the lack of experience, I would go under admin coaching first before trying again later. I would thank you for your vote in this RFA whether you voted support, oppose or neutral for me. I appreciate your comments (if you do have) you made and I hope to see you here in future. --Terence Ong 11:00, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Arabic grammar

Most of that article is the result of a single extended session I did at some point. Yes it could and should be substantially expanded, by all means feel free to discuss weak, geminate and quadriliteral roots! I note someone sprinkled parts of the article with forms in Arabic script, I would consider reverting that, since my original plan was to keep the grammar article cleanly separate from spelling issues, which have their own articles. dab () 18:27, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

χερετισμόσ (is this correct??)

This is the Latinus version I like:) Seriously, despite my belief that we cannot exclude the edit wars completely, I will be the happiest person if we succeed to limit the ongoing edit wars into reasonable amounts and replace them with healthy discussions on the talk pages. From my side, I will try to avoid edit warring in the future as much as I can. As for my anonymous edits, I would like to unfold the whole thing to the end. I strongly believe that I made those 2 suspicious edits when I was, without noticing that, not signed in (one edit was made on 16 March in 23:06 and the second one on 16 March in 00:06). If you think that I deliberately made those edits anonymously, why should I sign in the same night (17 March 00:19) and make another edit, revealing my IP address? I’m still confirming that after 17 March 00:19 I didn’t make any single edit in the Bitola article. If you think that the following IP addresses are mine: 62.162.14.36, 62.162.14.122, please request the IP check as you did for the 62.162.188.223. If you have knowledge of computers, you will notice that the first two IP addresses have the same prefix: 62.162.14 and mine has different prefix: 62.162.188. I’m a little bit offended that you doubt that I made hate driven edits on the Turkish people article, but I will forget that in the spirit of new good faith between us. Regards! Bitola 19:41, 20 March 2006 (UTC)


Δημοψηφισμα

Γεια σου Latinus. Επειδή αναφέρθηκες στη σχετική σελίδα, πότε το βλέπεις να γίνεται αυτό το δημοψήφισμα για την ονομασία του άρθρου για τους βόρειους γείτονες;--Avg 01:41, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

De-categorizing of Time zones of Europe.png

To answer your question about why I de-categorized image:Time zones of Europe.png from Category:Europe. Because I think User pages, User talk pages, article talk pages, templates (themselves) and quiet some images should not appear when a reader looks through a category. In the case of image:Time zones of Europe.png, Category:Time zones is appropriate that’s why I left it the way it was, however I think Category:Europe is not. And in general categories should not be image galleries. Nevertheless, feel free to disagree an revert my edits. Happy editing. --Van helsing 20:12, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Exeis gramma, phgaine sto grammatokibwtio (he-he 3erw oti eisai mesa).  NikoSilver   23:22, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Need help with a POV-pusher

Hey Latinus,

I really need your help on the Abkhazia page with a pro-Georgian POV-pusher. He's not Georgian (not that it matters), but he continues to attempt to add his own bias to the article. He has cited works such as "History of the Georgian people" and "Making of Georgian Nation"... See the talk page for more information. Thanks. --Khoikhoi 02:44, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Dead link

Sorry, all wrong. I tried to undo the edit done by 155.185.20.184 by you did it a second before me, so I inadvertently reinstated the troll's edit. Andreas 18:17, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps you should read

This page before jumping to conclusions: http://www.ipn.gov.pl/eng/eng_news_high_koniuchy.html Information on the Investigation in the Case of Crime Committed in Koniuchy

Legal proceeding initiated on March 3, 2001 in the case of pacification and murder of several dozens of residents of Koniuchy community (near Bieniakonie in Lida district, Novogrod voivodship) by soviet partisans in January 1944.

Koniuchy was a big Polish village with some 60 buildings and over 300 inhabitants. Koniuchy was close to the Rudnicka Forest where numerous soviet partisans had their bases. The partisans notoriously attacked and plundered the village. For that reason the Koniuchy community decided to form a self-defense group. In the night of 28/29 January 1944 a group of partisans surrounded the village and at 5 a.m. launched a 1,5-2 hours attack. The partisans put on fire the straw roofs of houses and shot those who run out. As a result 38 persons were killed and more then a dozen wounded. Some of the victims were burnt in their houses and others were gunshot. The victims were men, women and small children. --Molobo 19:24, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Help

Thanks for helping me out on Adana. Would you also be able to revert User:Metb82's recent edits? Thanks. --Khoikhoi 19:34, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! You won't believe what he's been trying to add to the EOKA page. Same with the Cyprus and Cyprus dispute pages. --Khoikhoi 00:29, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Koniuchy

Has nothing to do with Khatyn. I wonder why you revert so blindly yourself. --Molobo 20:05, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

?

Tell, what is this Macedonian Question that is popular in Greece?

Also, why won't you answer me on my last question? --HolyRomanEmperor 20:21, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

What are you talking about ?

First of all Koniuchy has nothing to do with Khatyn. It is same as writing about Pearl Harbor bombing with the intro"Dresden was bombed also in war". Second all I am unaware how the article is hostile to Russians, please explain what you mean. --Molobo 20:26, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Once again-what are you talking about ? I completely don't understand you. What has Khatyn to do with Koniuchy ? How can description of Soviet atrocities be hostile to Russians ? --Molobo 20:36, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Please point out where did you get that they were Lithuanians

You added that they were Lithuanians in Koniuchy massacre. I want you to show me your source with quote-so far I have yet to see Lithuanian involvement in any publication. So I ask you to give your source for this allegation. --Molobo 20:35, 22 March 2006 (UTC) You why then you left out Russians ? Anyway proper scholary research discovered only Russian and Jewish partisans were implicated --Molobo 20:44, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Khatyn is for context ? What context ? Explain ? It has nothing to do with Koniuchy. --Molobo 20:49, 22 March 2006 (UTC)


RfA thanks!

Hi Latinus! Thank you for supporting my RfA. It passed at 105/1/0, putting me in WP:100 - I'm delighted and surprised! I'm always happy to help out, so if you need anything, please drop me a line. Cheers! ➨ REDVERS 20:54, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Award

Thanks, it was totally unexpected. :) //Halibutt 23:09, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Bulgarian

If you wish to continue preaching me constantly, at least do it in English instead of Bulgarian. First of all everybody will have a chance to understand you and judge your comments. Another thing is that I really dont understand Bulgarian that well despite your claiming that Macedonians are Bulgarians. Most importantly dont use Bulgarian in edit summaries. You reverted me and wrote a completly irrelevant thing in the summary but nobody can understand it. People should know why you reverted me. --Realek 01:22, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Interesting, then the bg-2 on your profile is false advertisement? FunkyFly 01:35, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
It's bg-2. NOT 3; NOT 4; And since Latinus doesnt speak it that good eather, I have a big problem understanding him. --Realek 01:40, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

The newest additions

Latinus, don't you think that it's really an overloading of the article with the latest political developments? That part should be mentioned in the apropriate article Enlargement of the European Union? BTW, I don't think that is essential, caus all of those countries didn't det along with that. Cheers, Bomac 08:19, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

But, have on mind that there are other countries mentioned, so this shoudn't be only in the part 'bout R. Macedonia, or it should be placed as a general view for all those countries. Cheers, Bomac 08:28, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Phaistos Disk

You seem misinformed about this problem. What is required is an edition respecting the NPOV rule. I didn't begin a new editwar. They are people who want to suppress any POV different from them who did. Please, read again the Discussion. Sincerely yours (80.90.39.149 10:48, 23 March 2006 (UTC))

My RFA

Thank you!

Thank you for supporting / opposing / vandalising my RFA! The result was 71/3/0 and so I am now still a normal user / an administrator / indefinitely banned. Your constructive criticism / support / foulmouthed abuse has given me something to think about / helped me immensely / turned me into a nervous wreck. If there's any way I can help you in return, please ask someone else / suffer and die / drop me a line! --Sam Blanning (formerly Malthusian) (talk) 19:47, 23 March 2006 (UTC)


Dear Mr Blanning, thank you for choosing the ACME Auto-thanker! Simply strike out the phrases that do not apply and tear off this strip at the indicated line to give all your supporters and detractors the personalised response they so richly deserve.
N.B: DO NOT FORGET TO TEAR THIS BIT OFF, MORON!

I would love your help.

Hi,

I know you are interested in christianity, and I recently started a new wiki over at wikicities which is on the subject of christianity. is the site.

The goal is to have a knowledgebase on christianity from a distinctly "C(hristian)POV" rather than the NPOV.

I know you are busy but I am actively seeking new sysops/admins to help me build this site up, and I would be positively thrilled if you could contribute in any capacity whatsoever.

Latinus,

did I say something that made you angry? --HolyRomanEmperor 12:38, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

User:Latinius

It seems this user fully cloned your talk page!--Nixer 14:26, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

New rage of Roitr

Look at this: Now he reverts all the articles.--Nixer 15:17, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Stop to call for infinite war, look here - http://www.baseclass.modulweb.dk//69giap/179.0.html is better proof - this point disputable theme. I speak, that there is no official clause in English or in Russian in which is written 100% their exact equivalence. NATO sites, a site the Ministry of Defence of Russia have no such comparative table.

Ti einai aftos?kalesan enisxuseis?lol...mia allagi exw akoma...btw,has anyone told them what the greek foreign minister agreed with Rice today?--Hectorian 23:44, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok,tha to prosexw oso mporw egw.i Rice eipe oti oi HΠΑ tha dextoun o,ti oi dio xwres apofasisoun gia to onoma,asxetws an tous exoun idi anagnwrisei...haha,tin fovithikan tin Dora(she is scary!)...--Hectorian 23:54, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Egw to eida stis eidiseis.oso gia site: http://news.ert.gr/3/216598.asp http://news.ert.gr/3/217198.asp http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0603/S00439.htm to prwto leei sta ellinika oti oi USA lene pws ta skopia prepei na sumfwnisoun prwta me mas prin mpoun stin EE h sto NATO.--Hectorian 00:08, 25 March 2006 (UTC)


Here we go again....

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