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Images

Your image uploads have been tagged as lacking proper source/copyright information. You claim on some of them the they are from www.wowturkey.com but then claim they are "free use". If you did not take these images and they are not specifically released udner a free license then you can not upload them to wikipedia unless you are able to use a fair use claim, which I think is not likely on the imaegs you have been uploading. Please see Misplaced Pages:Image use policy for more details. Claiming incorrect copyrights on images is illegal, unless these problems are sorted the images will be deleted. Please let me know if you have any questions. --Martyman-(talk) 10:54, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for contacting me in regards to these images. If they truely are released udner the license that you say they are then they should be fine for use on wikipedia. I would suggest that on the description page you include a link to the site and a copy of the copyright in both Turkish and translated to English. The best copyright tag to use would probably be {{CopyrightedFreeUseProvidedThat|the image is credited to www.wowturkey.com}}. Please let me know if you want a hand goign through and correcting the description pages and removing the license warning tags. --Martyman-(talk) 04:20, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I do like the way you have set out the description on Image:Kaleicipanorama.jpg if you included both the turkish and english trasnlations on that and switched the copyright tag to the one I posted above it would be perfect. --Martyman-(talk) 04:23, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I can't find any mention of the GFDL on the www.turizm.net site listed on Image:Map antalya.gif. Do you have a reference for that? --Martyman-(talk) 04:28, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanx i will do that on the panaroma picture. I couldnt find the gnu licence on the page either,i thought it was just for free licences.The turizm.net site doent have licence that picture because i think the picture has no licence at all but i dont know what to do about the licences for pictures like that.Actually i could just use the other location picture but maybe there is something i can do about files like this.thanx

The turizm.net site clearly states copyright all rights reserved at the bottom of the page. Even if this wasn't the case, you can't just use images you think might be under a free license you have to have soem sort of proof.

Back on the subject of the wowturkey images. You don't seem to have included a full translation of the turkish on the image descripotion page. Also I went to the English version of thesite at wordlturkey.com and it clearly states non-commercial use, which is not compatible with wikipedia's usage. It also states that images uploaded by users are not covered by their copyright either, so they are not nessesrily free either. I have emailed worldturkey.com for clarification. --Martyman-(talk) 04:46, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Ok thanx for letting me know i will delete the turizm.net photo and replace it with the gnu copyrighted other location picture.About the wowturkey issue i really didnt understand the whole thing because they say all the copyrights of the photos that are uploaded belong to us but then it says if you want to use the photos commercially you just have to send a message to the photograph takers and they will let you do it with pleasure.Anyway i am putting the whole translation now and sending a message to each photograph takers for permition.If there is anything else i can do please let me know.Thank you again so much for your help on this.

Thankyou for going to the effort of chasing this up. The only thing to make sure is that if you are requesting to use the images on wikipedia that you get back an email from the autor explicitly stating it is either available for any use or under a specific free license. Permission to use it specificaly on wikipedia is no good because the image still can't be restraicted to non-commercial uses. --Martyman-(talk) 05:15, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Ok i got it,i will take a permission specifically stating it is either available for any use or under a specific free license including commercial use then i will paste the reply on the copyright page.thank you.

Sounds great, thanks for your hard work. --Martyman-(talk) 05:43, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging for Image:Saklikent.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Saklikent.jpg. The image page currently doesn't specify who created the image, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created the image yourself then you need to indicate why we have the right to use the image on Misplaced Pages (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the image yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

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Image copyright problem with Image:Hadriangate.JPG

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This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. If you have questions about copyright tagging of images, post on Misplaced Pages talk:Image copyright tags or User talk:Carnildo/images. 10:26, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Warning for Personal Attack

In regards to the edit comment on the Galatasaray article on the 24 February 2006.

Please see Misplaced Pages's no personal attacks policy: There is no excuse for personal attacks on other contributors. Do not make them. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that you may be blocked for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thanks, Englishrose 14:40, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

I guess I'll have to tell my MP to oppose Turkish admission into the EU if all of Turkey is like you. Need we say that removing articles doesn't remove history. Need we say Armenia? John wesley 18:47, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Warning for Vandalism

In regards to removing content from the Galatasaray article without consensus on the 24 February 2006. Please stop removing content from Misplaced Pages; it is considered vandalism. If you want to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Englishrose 14:40, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

That's correct, as every post is recorded it makes no logical sense to falsely accuse others of vandalism. The word 'Vandalism' itself is an insult to the great band of people the Vandals. John wesley 14:55, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

In regards to removing content from the Galatasaray article (again)Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. Englishrose 17:56, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page, as you did to Galatasaray, you will be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. Please read the Talk:Galatasaray page and respond there before making any further edits to the article itself. Waggers 10:22, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

This section does not belong to the Encyclopic facts of the Sports Club of Galatasaray so actually this isnt even an information i can correct or expand further because it actually does not belong there. I agree to call an administrator to solve this dispute.Until a decision is made by an objective point of view, please do not add that section unrelated with the club of Galatasaray. metb82 12:32, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Please see my response to that in Talk:Galatasaray. Let's try to keep the discussion in one place. Waggers 10:41, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Consistency on Football pages

If we can find out the correct category to put non-football but football frelated items. That is, are other similar incidents for other clubs, accidents, brawls, killings in other clubs also listed on their pages? Some please provide the links to those other teams so that all teams will be treated the same way. There at least two ways to make the all consistent. 1.) place it in the article on the club itself (not perfect) 2.) provide a link to incidents good and bad like the fact that a player also happens to be a doctor, say or a musician. John wesley 15:13, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

3rr and incivility

I've blocked you for WP:3RR and incivility on Galatasaray. Please read the rules; 3RR is important but WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL are probably even more important. William M. Connolley 12:52, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

• I dont think i deserve this ban because i had agreed to hold until the dispute is solved by an administrator. You can see my point of view in the bottom of the discussion page of the Galatasaray article. I also will be glad to hear an administrator's comments and recommandations on the dispute.

Are you arguing that you havent broken WP:3RR? William M. Connolley 13:56, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

No i accept that i changed the page more than 3 times in 24 hours but im suggesting this was correction of simple vandalism and waiting for comments.I want to learn why erasing sided,irrelevant and offending information can be called vandalism.But i still accept my fault and i will stop all my activities on this page until this dispute is solved.

People sometimes disagree over what is "vandalism". For the purposes of judging 3RR, vandalism is something that someone who has no idea about the contents of the page would judge as wrong: complete gibberish (e.g. "sdgjkljg vndsjg d"); blanking; rude words; stuff like that. See WP:VAND. You are having a content dispute. William M. Connolley 15:03, 25 February 2006 (UTC).

Incidentally, since you're being entirely reasonable, if you're prepared to respect 3RR in future, and leave the G page alone till your block would have expired, I'll unblock you. William M. Connolley 15:09, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanx but for me,it wont mean anything until we find a resolution to this problem. I accept that i did personal attacks in some point,and im sorry about this. But i still dont understand if i got banned for violating the WP:NPA or WP:CIVIL rule, or was it because of the WP:3RR rule? If it was the WP:3RR rule, i was not the only person reverting that article. I will appreciate if you enlighten me on this.

You got banned for 3RR *and* incivility. Had you been perfectly civil, you would still have been banned for 3RR, but probably for a shorter period as a first offence. As to others reverting... as far as I can see they stuck to 3 or less per 24h, and so are safe. William M. Connolley 19:23, 25 February 2006 (UTC).

Istanbul Sayfası Güzel Olmuş :)

Abi İstanbul sayfası güzel olmuş, yeni bilgiler fln. Eline sağlık. Bu arada wowturkey ve worldturkey'deki resimleri sorunsuz yükleyebilirsin. worldturkey'deki copyright notice'e "giving information about Turkey" kismini eklettim. Böylece non-commercial kismi bizim Türkiye'yi tanitan sayfalarimizda devre disi kaliyor. Gerçi buna karsi çikan adminler olabilir ama "Worldturkey.com allows its images to be used freely, if it is used in page giving information about Turkey." gibi birsey eklemek sanirim yeterli olur. İyi çalışmalar. --System Halted 18:19, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

• Yardımların için çok teşekkürler..İstanbul'da tanıtmamız gereken bu kadar güzellik varken kayıtsız kalamadım.Bizi hala aya sofyanın etrafında kumdan evlerde yaşayan insanlar sanıyorlar.Bilgilerin çoğunu ödüllü almanca sayfasından altavista yardımıyla ingilizceye çevirerek ve düzelterek ekledim.Gerçi daha eklememiz gereken çok bilgi ve resim var. İyi çalışmalar. -metb82

Misplaced Pages policies

Before using a tag on a page, please read Misplaced Pages policies and understand why they are used. I am reffering to the Armenian Genocide entry. Misplaced Pages present positions and do not take itself a position, that the article exist is because those positions exist regardless of what is true or not. Also, while I agree the uses of that tag you have added, the reason is because of the recent materials added which need to be reviewed. If you pay attention and run a word count, you will see that the Turkish position as the article is now is given more places than any others. Regards. Fad (ix) 22:36, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

• Yes Fadix, i understand. But first of all,the article starts with an entrance completely giving a unobjective point of view. We have to mention that,it was a war and thousands of Turks were dying each day. It presents it like the Turks were so comforted and just thought it would be better without Armenians after a thousand years of living together.We both know this is not true. I am not opposing everything that says there because i dont have enough knowledge about the issue. But one thing i know is that it was something in a war situation and Armenians were killing Turks too and it would be really wrong if it sounded like Hitler.Anyway i'm still waiting to be enlightened and i would love to discuss this with you in an other platform.

Perhaps you should read the article all together before placing such a judgement. The lead present what the article is all about, the article is called Armenian Genocide, and the lead say what is that position first, it does not say this is what happened. Fad (ix) 23:04, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Turkish Cypriots

Because the source is not neutral nor academic. Would you be able to help me find neutral sources for the number of Turkish Cypriots in the world? Thanks. --Khoikhoi 05:06, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

That's a Greek source. I was hoping to find one that was neither Greek or Turkish, but I can't seem to find anything so far. I guess we'll have to make do with the current numbers, but the user who added them has a history of adding her personal point of view to articles. --Khoikhoi 05:15, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll check if the Library of Congress has anything. --Khoikhoi 05:18, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I changed it a little bit. See the Turkish Cypriots article now. :) --Khoikhoi 05:41, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey

Hey Metb82, thanks for your comment. I'm sorry for getting into that revert war with you, I should've used the talk page instead. Hey I understand how you feel, let's try to improve the Adana page best we can. :) P.S. what part of Turkey do you live in? --Khoikhoi 05:54, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi. That's interesting, no wonder you write so much about the Turkish Rivera. So you're a Turk of Greek ancestry? I'm American and I live in California, near San Francisco. --Khoikhoi 01:57, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, have you read the Turkish people article? It's all about how the Turks mixed with peoples over the centuries. Tell me, are there any Turks in Turkey that look like the Eastern Turkic peoples, such as the Kazakhs and Yakuts? I don't think there are, but perhaps I'm mistaken. The Turkish people article lists all the people that came to Anatolia, it's very interesting. --Khoikhoi 02:24, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

My father is half English and half Dutch. My mother is Jewish (so am I) and her great-grandparents come from places like Hungary and Russia. A lot of people in the US are of mixed ancestry. --Khoikhoi 04:15, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, take care. --Khoikhoi 04:29, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Why are u filling the tab in Greeks with 'citation needed'?there are many sources in the respective articles...In any case,the number cannot be considered exagerrated...--Hectorian 23:41, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Well i just want to make sure there are the correct numbers.Im not saying its exaggerrated. I didnt see such detailed sources in the respective articles. (Metb82 23:43, 17 March 2006 (UTC))

in the bottom of the page there are internal links like Greek American,Greek Canadian and so on...in some of them,as i just saw,there are links.in some others not...i guess me(or someone else) will have to fix it...anyway,no prob!--Hectorian 00:18, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Turkish people

Hi Metb82, I understand what you're saying. However, but the fact "the Kurds are considered Turkish too" is disputed. The Kurds are an Iranian peoples while the Turks are a Turkic people. Yes the term Turk can refer to a citizen of Turkey, but most Kurds for example in Turkey do not call themselves ethnic Turks. I'm sure that Assyrians living in Turkey do not call themselves ethnic Turks as well.

You're talking about the Turks as a nationality, this aricle is talking about the Turks as an ethnic group. These are two different things. And on Misplaced Pages we differentiate between all the ethnic groups. --Khoikhoi 00:12, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Merhaba

Merhaba! Sanırım sende pek çoğumuz gibi bunlardan sıkıldın.Birkaç Anti-Türkçünün bize karşı yaptığı bu çifte standarda karşı işbirliği yapmaya ne dersin? Inanna 00:13, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Despite what you think, I'm not Anti-Turk Inanna. --Khoikhoi 00:14, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Was I talking to you?...You should learn Turkish if you want to know what i'm talking about...Inanna 00:19, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't have to know Turkish to know what "Anti-Türkçünün" means. --Khoikhoi 00:21, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

How do you know that i'm talking about you? Inanna 00:26, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Who else would it be about? Hectorian? --Khoikhoi 00:27, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

As i said...Learn Turkish. Inanna 00:30, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Evet! --Khoikhoi 00:31, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

What shall i do?! You're going to understand what i've told! :))))) Metb82, sorry about that...Inanna 00:33, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

You said recently about me in Turkish "I should tell you that the user who warned you is originally a Torah worshipper from the USA (I'm telling you this way so they cannot figure out, I hope you understood)" Guess what? I figured it out! :) --Khoikhoi 00:37, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Oh...how quickly did you learn?...Khoikhoi, the all i've spoken at here.I am not corresponding by e-mail as you do at all times.It looks your masonry works well...Inanna 00:48, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

I use email to talk about a main issue that's unrelated to you, believe it or not. --Khoikhoi 00:50, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

So explain us how did you translate it? Inanna 01:01, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Good question. --Khoikhoi 01:04, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it will be a better question if it is replied. Inanna 01:09, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Aynen; mesela ben Kıbrıslı Türklerle ilgili sayfada, Kıbrıslı Türklerin kendilerini farklı gördüklerini falan yazdı.Hem de hiçbir dayanak olmadan.Amacı bizi kötü göstermek.Gerçi onların taktiği budur; Medya aracılığı ile işleri yürütmek.Herneyse, benim yahoo'dan hesabım; aygul_papatya.Ancak pek sık kontrol edemiyorum...Inanna 23:03, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

İstanbul

Rica ederim. Yardımcı olabildiysem sevindim. İstanbul ve Türkiye hakkında önümüzde çok daha işimiz var. Saygılar Bertilvidet 14:10, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Hagia Sofia

I just saw your edit in Istanbul.was there any proposal of anyone to reconvert Hagia Sofia to a church?really,i am unaware of such an idea...--Hectorian 15:03, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

• Ofcourse this is not an official proposal not by muslims nor christians. If you have problem with this,you can erase the whole thing if you want. (Metb82 15:31, 21 March 2006 (UTC))

I do not have any problem with this,i was just curious.But since there has not been made an official claim by neither muslims nor christians,i do not think that the the ideas of a handful of people should be mentioned here.i am removing it,if u do not mind...--Hectorian 15:45, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

ofcourse i dont mind go ahead. (Metb82 15:47, 21 March 2006 (UTC))

adana

Selam,

Adana ili ilgili sayfada bir sorunum var. birkaç editor tabi kim olduklarını biliyorsunuz, ermenilerle iligi olayları uzun uzadıya anlatıryorlarken, bende adana da turklere karşı girişilen olayları belgeleriyle birlikte ekledim ancak durmadan siliyorlar. tek başıma bir etkisi olmuyor, yardımcı olursanız cok memnun olurum.

--TuzsuzDeliBekir 20:27, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

3RR violation at Cyprus

Hi, you violated the three-revert rule on Cyprus. I have disabled your editing permissions for 31 hours. Please read our guide on dispute resolution during the time you are unable to contribute to Misplaced Pages. Feel free to return after your block expires, but take your differences to the talk page and please refrain from edit warring. Cheers, —Ruud 00:27, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Turkey

Merhaba WikiProject Turkey isminde bir proje önerisinde bulundum. Öneri olarak en az 5-10 kişi varsa projeye başlamanın daha uygun olacağı söyleniyor. Türkiye ile ilgilenen her kullanıcıya bu mesajı yolluyorum. Gözümden kaçan bu proje ile ilgilenebilecek aktif kullanıcı olursa sizde bildirin. Geçici proje sayfası bu User:Ugur Basak/WikiProject Turkey, bu sayfayada ilgilenmek isterseniz adınızı ekleyebilirsiniz. Misplaced Pages:Wikiproject/List_of_proposed_projects#Turkey --Ugur Basak 14:06, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Cyprus and your vandalism

Dude, you need to CHILL OUT. Your picture that you keep trying to force-feed down onto the Cyprus pages is ALREADY FEATURED ON ANOTHER PAGE IN WIKIPEDIA. CHILL OUT. And stop the unnecessary reverts and edits. By reading your discussion page, I see that all you do is go around and violate Wiki rules and policies. Keep it up, and you will be BANNED. Rarelibra

acil yardım

Senden bir ricam olacak. Turkish Kurdistan isimli sayfayı silip Kurds in Turkey adlı bir sayfaya yönlendirme yapılması için oy toplanıyor. Syrian Kurdistan sayfası silindi ancak Turkish Kurdistan sayfası için cok fazla kullanıcı bir araya geldi. Sende oy vermek istermisin ?

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Turkish Kurdistan

--TuzsuzDeliBekir 09:47, 25 March 2006 (UTC)