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Flag of South Azerbaijan

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per WP:Partisanship, WP:RS, and WP:OR. Aliwiki (talk) 11:25, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

• Delete. For the reason given above.--Aliwiki (talk) 11:44, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
• Delete. "South Azerbaijan" itself is an irredentist fringe theory, basically a fantasy concept. No state of official entity by that name exists or has ever existed. Such Misplaced Pages articles should deal with real states or former states, not fantasies and myths. Therefore, this article is basically a product of nationalist WP:SOAPing, which cites a bunch of blogs, and unreliable non-academic sources, violating WP:RS and WP:OR. Notable Azeri scholar Shireen T. Hunter, of Georgetown University, address this issue in "Iran and Transcuacsia in the Post-Soviet Era", writing in page 106 that "After the Ottoman empire had collapsed, both the Communists and, later, the Azerbaijani nationalists developed the myth of one Azerbaijan divided into a southern and northern part, comparing it to what happened to the two Germanics and to Korea, and using this myth to justify irredentist claims toward Iranian territory.". Kurdo777 (talk) 12:53, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Azerbaijan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:08, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Takabeg (talk) 06:46, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

• Comment Before finding the article Irredentism, I thought "irredentist" might have something to do with teeth. Edison (talk) 16:23, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

• "Delete":Misplaced Pages is not a place for advertizing (WP:NOTADVERTISING). Just look at the following gallery:

• name of the file :Which flag is the flag of South Azerbaijan (?!)
• name of the file :New flag of South Azerbaijan name of the file :New flag of South Azerbaijan
• name of the file :South Azerbaijan red flag
• name of the file :Flag of South Azerbaijan

Are we spending our time here to find out something that no two people agree about it ? "South Azerbaijan" itself is an unknown entity , then the flag of that strange creature is more unknown than that !! --Alborz Fallah (talk) 16:48, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

There is not a real Kurdistan too, why don't you suggest to deletion of Kurdistan's flag?--Orartu (talk) 15:44, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

P.S : Again , for showing that all so-called flags are inventions of a handful of our editors in Misplaced Pages , try this : (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
No news , No book , No Scholar source and No free image out of our Misplaced Pages !
Hallelujah , we made a flag ! --Alborz Fallah (talk) 17:04, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

• Keep South Azerbaijan is not a fantasy concept. There is Azerbaijan in the north called Azerbaijan Republic, and Azerbaijan in the south, modern Iranian Azerbaijan. This is a fact. South Azerbaijan means Azerbaijan placed in the south. . You had written “no state of official entity by that name exists or has ever existed”, but do you know what is Stateless nation?. The flag of Southern Azerbaijan recognized by the UNPO. Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization (UNPO) is an international organization of political organisations and governments representing self-proclaimed "indigenous peoples, minorities, and unrecognised or occupied territories" At the UNPO, Southern Azerbaijan as an unrecognized territory is represented by SANAM (Southern Azerbaijan National Awakening Movement) and this Flag recognized by the UNPO . This is a fact The CRW Flags. --Melikov Memmed (talk) 06:18, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Comment:(UNPO) , Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization , has nothing to do with UN (United Nations) . That is an organization that every person who pays the membership can be a member . About your other explanation , (Az.Republic in north and modern Iranian Azerbaijan in South ) , that would be correct if you write it as "Modern Az.Republic (representing historical Arran and Shirvan ) and historical Azerbaijan" .--Alborz Fallah (talk) 09:46, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

• Delete. Pure fringe article. Not enough facts and reliable sources. It must deleted or moved to another relevant article about Irredentism or irredentist movements. Xooon (talk) 06:49, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
• Delete. Pure advertising, plus imagination. In fact 08:43, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
• Delete. False and misleading material; there is no such land or flag by that name and has never been in the entire History. These flags similar to other advertising sketches risen from designer’s fantasy, non-existent in real world. The sources are not reliable; Blogs , UNPO, etc. do not meet the requirement of WP:RS.Cyrusace (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:07, 8 October 2011 (UTC).

For you there is no such land by the name of South Azerbaijan but Google search finds 461000 results.--Melikov Memmed (talk) 09:34, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

• Keep Per Melikov Memmed. --►Safir yüzüklü Cekli 09:32, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
• Keep --Kurdistan's flag has danger to Iran and region not Flag of Azerbaijan.

Orartu (talk) 10:59, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

We don't discuss whether flags are dangerous or not :))) Takabeg (talk) 13:47, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

There is not a real Kurdistan too, why don't you suggest to deletion of Kurdistan's flag?--Orartu (talk) 15:44, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

• Keep See Mahmoud Ahmadinejad under South Azerbaijan Flag, no one is imagining anything, this is a real yet unofficial flag. There is a serious debate going on in south Azerbaijani community. Article may be weak, but it'll be improved, there is no need for deletion. --Khutuck (talk) 11:06, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

I didn't know that picture of a president and a flag is so important . Then what if I build a page about the new flag of Az republic that the colors are up side down comparing the previous colors ?--Alborz Fallah (talk) 12:47, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

The picture you linked shows current Azerbaijan flag, and irrelevant to our iscussion. Do not be absurd and try this: Take an Azerbaijan flag, turn its back, take it upside down. It looks like the one you have linked, intead of Blue-Red-Green, it'll look like Green-Red-Blue, but it is the same flag. here is an example.Khutuck (talk) 13:34, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Yap , that is a good answer , I think the European union said the same thing : turn it around!: Avropa :ÜZR İSTƏMƏZ

The flag in that picture is not of South Azerbaijan, but the reverse of the flag of the Republic of Azerbaijan. Takabeg (talk) 13:46, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

• Keep - I agree with Khutuck. Emperyan-message/ileti 13:20, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

  Note to closing admin: User:Emperyan is a WP:CANVASSed single purpose account. This user had not edited any Misplaced Pages pages in 8 days, before showing up on this page simply to "vote", without presenting any arguments. Kurdo777 (talk) 21:22, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

• Keep -- Supermæn (talk) 15:48, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

  Note to closing admin: User:Supermæn is a WP:CANVASSed single purpose account. This user had not edited pages in two weeks, before showing up on this page simply to "vote", without presenting any arguments. The user also has less than 50 edits in total, and no prior history on Deletion discussion. Kurdo777 (talk) 21:22, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

• Keep - I agree with Melikov Memmed.--Ebrahimi-amir (talk) 17:10, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

  Note to closing admin: User:Ebrahimi-amir is currently under investigation as a possible sock-puppet of User:Orartu who also voted this page above. Kurdo777 (talk) 21:22, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

• Keep.I completely agree with Melikov Memmed.--E THP (talk) 08:59, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

  Note to closing admin: User:E THP is a WP:CANVASSed user. This user had been mostly inactive with half a dozen edits since April and has no prior history on deletion discussion. Furthermore, he has less than 50 edits in total. He, as the others above, were clearly asked by someone to come here take part in a "vote". Kurdo777 (talk) 21:22, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

• Keep--AnBinava (talk) 20:34, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

  Note to closing admin: is a WP:CANVASSED single purpose account. This user just signed up hours ago, in order to "vote" on this page. The edit here was this user's one and only edit , which further proves that someone has been canvassing for votes on this page, outside of Misplaced Pages. Kurdo777 (talk) 21:22, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

• • Comment : I ask an admin to checks the users if they are suitable for tagging as Misplaced Pages:Single-purpose account and to avoid WP:CANVASS . Isn't it strange that so many votes have no text ? No opinion ? --Alborz Fallah (talk) 20:47, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

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