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Since people are not convinced yet. We will post your version of the articles soon. --] 02:38, 25 March 2006 (UTC) Since people are not convinced yet. We will post your version of the articles soon. --] 02:38, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

== Best wishes ==

I'm sorry to hear about your injury. Best wishes for a speedy recovery. ] <sup>]</sup> 23:36, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Revision as of 23:36, 25 March 2006

Welcome to the Misplaced Pages

Here are some links I thought useful:

Feel free to contact me personally with any questions you might have. Misplaced Pages:About, Misplaced Pages:Help desk, and Misplaced Pages:Village pump are also a place to go for answers to general questions. You can sign your name by typing 4 tildes, like this: ~~~~.

Be Bold!

Sam Spade (talk · contribs) 14:02, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Explanations

I took my picture out and changed my user name for the same reason -- anonymity. My name is still visible anyway so I'll "re"-add my picture. I'm from Hyderabad (Deccan), which explains why my contributions are all associated with this city. Thanks for your interest. Please let me know if you need any editing or contributions. I'll be happy to oblige. Salma 04:40, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Qawwali

It is nice to see someone so passionate about Qawwali engaging with the Misplaced Pages.

I have made the move to Qawwali as the main article on the subject. What do you think?

By the way, have you heard traditional Qawwalis much? Nusrat Fateh brought a lot of us to the form, but there is also great depth and richness in the wider tradition and its spiritual background...iFaqeer (Talk to me!) 02:31, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)

Nice to hear back from you. And nice to see a young fan of Qawwali that is in touch with traditional Qawwali.
Here's something you might be interested in: I have just finally got to publishing my thoughts and translations on Sufi Poetry in Urdu. For now, it will be mainly on the following page:
http://urdu-ke-naam.blogspot.com
The blog's not really "mine", but a collaboration with some folks who are mainly in Hyderabad (Deccan) (see Hyderabad, India and Hyderabad state), one of the homes of Urdu. MY own main blog is at http://iFaqeer.blogspot.com iFaqeer (Talk to me!) 20:05, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)

I like the idea

A reference for Islamic and Muslim cultural concepts often referred to in the zeitgeit/pop culture, you mean :D. That's a long title, but it's needed. It would be a counterpart to: List of Islamic terms in Arabic....I like it. I am sure we can structure it so it ... er ... helps enhance the usefulness of Misplaced Pages as a reference rather than is just a refutation page.

First thing we need to do is check if there isn't already such a page :DiFaqeer (Talk to me!) 04:25, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)

AOA

Congrats on the cogent arguments on Islam. Well put.

I think we share many of the same concerns about Islam-bashing on WP, which has really reached shameful levels. (Take a look at the claims re: textual criticsm on Qur'an if you're looking for something else to get angry about, which I doubt.)

When you get a chance, can you email me at yusuf.toropov@gmail.com? I have an idea I'd like to discuss with you. Ma-salaam, BYT BrandonYusufToropov 20:40, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Just sent you that info you asked for via email. BrandonYusufToropov 22:11, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Hudud

I saw you removed "such as Ali Sina" from the page... just wondering why? I figured it would be a good idea to list someone or something... (curiosity). gren 20:58, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

User:Sam Spade/Welcome

You edited this page a few minutes ago. Please be advised that this is the message Sam uses to welcome new users. He probably doesn't like it when others change it. If you want to talk to Sam go to User talk:Sam Spade. Mgm| 20:32, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)

Sorry , wrong page ..my mistake .

Origins of the name "Anonymous editor"

Originally written by Farhansher: "Hi , whatsup with this name"

LOL. Do you like it? I chose it a week ago on the "Islam and other religions" section when user zora told said that instead of being an "anonymous editor" I should take a name. So, from then on I became known as the "Anonymous editor".

About me: I usually focus on Islam and Islam-related articles as I converted to Islam recently. Like many others, I hate extreme POVs and Islam-bashing especially by people who know nothing about this great religion.

Thanks for asking.


No, I did not come because of an invitation from a forum. Thanks...--Anonymous editor 22:41, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)

Islam and Slavery

Hello, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as Islam and Slavery, but we regretfully cannot accept copyrighted text borrowed from web sites. For more information, take a look at our policy library. Happy editing! DopefishJustin (・∀・) 22:00, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

I did do a full article on Islam and slaverycheck it out, some want to merge it with Islam, I think it's a bit too big with the Ayat (verses) and all

--The Brain 09:25, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Hey there -- could I ask you to take a look at my recent edits on Terrorism?

We've fallen out of touch, and I owe you correspondence. My apologies.

I fixed the balanced-example problem people claimed to be concerned about at Terrorism, but POV editors are massing the troops. Could I ask you to take a look and add your thoughts to the discussion? BrandonYusufToropov 01:48, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Similar (but much more longwinded) assaults at Jihad...

... which took several weeks of work to get to an NPOV state. Can you please take a look when you get the chance? BrandonYusufToropov 17:43, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Links (response)

In response:

Yes, I underestand completely, but I still believe that we should provide viewers with an appropriate list of general links that educate them about the religion. This is integral to clarify the tenets of the religion. Very few users will actaully use directory for general info about the religion. Critical links are given in the directory and I clearly restate that a religion does not need POV in the first place because it is factuality rather than an issue. The links I listed are factual and I ofcourse did not link them for POV, but for factuality. But, yes, I do understand what you were saying, thanks for informing me. --Anonymous editor 19:10, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)

In response to ur question about me please see my user page. Thanks. --Anonymous editor 20:33, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

Forums

HI Farhanser, I noticed that you asked some people from certain forums to come to Misplaced Pages to start editing the Islam pages. We've recently had an outbreak of trouble on these pages. Can you tell me please which forums you posted that message on? I'm trying to work out how best to stop the personal attacks and reverting on these pages, so any information at all would be most helpful. Cheers, SlimVirgin 08:14, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

the Islam flamewars

re , I do not think it is helpful to add such brainless ranting to Talk pages, even with a view to making your opponents look bad. Your aim should be to help calm things down, so that cool-headed factual editing and polite discussion may hopefully be resumed in the near future. thanks, dab () 13:00, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ed Poor has been kind enough to nominate me for an adminship

...which I think will go a long way toward resolving unproductive disputes on pages he and I both edit. Anyone who is interested in voting one way or the other is invited to the discussion here. BrandonYusufToropov 17:08, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ali Sina

You added this: Others say he is just doing it to stay away from entering into debate with some real Islamic scholars , and as a result , risk of losing his following. to the Ali SIna article a short while ago. I removed it because you haven't included a source for this criticism yet. -- Stereotek 18:41, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Jihad

Farhanser, you have done a magnificent job outlining Jihad on the talk:Jihad page. Very nice. And don't let zeno discourage you, she/he can hate Muslims all she/he wants, but can't even get a point across. Anyways, good work. Talk to you later, Anonymous editor June 30, 2005 06:57 (UTC)

Do you mean the "liberal" thing should be deleted? -Anonymous editor July 1, 2005 13:30 (UTC)
Yes I agree with you on the Jihad thing. Secondly, I looked at the article you said about slavery and it is very good. I have made some minor corrections for now but I will be back later to check for other small problems (been a little busy lately) assuming that noone reverts it ofcourse. Thanks for informing me. Salaam, --Anonymous editor July 1, 2005 20:03 (UTC)

Can you please ...

... take a look at my work here, and perhaps add it to your watchlist? Many thanks, BrandonYusufToropov 13:05, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Update. User:Carbonite instantly reverted. BrandonYusufToropov 13:20, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Mysticism

Hmmm. Theoretically, there can be mysticism in the Islamic context outside of Sufism, which is usually based on Sunni tradition. But then I guess some of the Shia-based mystical orders are also called Sufi...thinking as I go here. Maybe redirect? I would prefer "Islamic Mysticism" or "Muslim Mysticism" in that case... iFaqeer (Talk to me!) 20:16, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

user page reversion

Hi Farhansher! You're quite welcome.

To answer your question, I do a lot of RC patrol, looking for vandalism. Sometimes I select only all anonymous edits to the User: space; that's a good way to catch vandalism others miss. For example, here are all the recent edits to the User space by anonymous users. Happy editing! Antandrus (talk) 19:33, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

Jihad

Can you please take a look at the editor's poll I posted at the Jihad talk page here? BrandonYusufToropov 15:41, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Beware 3RR -- it's not worth it. Let others sort it out. BrandonYusufToropov 18:23, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Typeing ettiquette

For my own personal sanity if nothing else, can you please avoid using "4" as for or "U" as you? It drives me up the while and makes your comments hard to read--Tznkai 19:15, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Moved 'evidence' pages to your user namespace

I moved "Sina plans to attack WP : Thread 1" to User:Farhansher/Sina plans to attack WP : Thread 1 and "Sina plans to attack WP : Thread 2" to User:Farhansher/Sina plans to attack WP : Thread 2. These are not articles and should not be in the article namespace. In your user namespace, it's unlikely they'll be deleted, but you could also move them to Talk: subpages or the Misplaced Pages: namespace (in the latter, though, they'll probably get deleted).

Thanks, —Morven 19:05, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Islam poll

I thought you might be interested in this.Heraclius 17:22, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Template:Islam=

Zeno of Elea is claiming consensus when it comes to adding the crescent despite the various objections of different users.Heraclius 22:58, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

Din

Din is being POV-pushed on again, can you please take a look?Heraclius 17:03, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Hi again ... when you get the chance ...

... can you please take a look at this? BrandonYusufToropov 10:07, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Thank you

Salaam.

Thank you very much for the welcome back. Yes there are quite a few attacks here and there. It's funny how many of those claiming to be "secularists" act so extreme. Anyways, thanks for the welcome and I will see you around in wikipedia. Peace, --Anonymous editor 19:50, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

Please review

Can you check This out and tell me what you think. I did it all my self, but still don't like it. It's ugly and does not seem to read well. Brandon has helped out a fair bit, but the more help the better it will become, inshAllah.--Irishpunktom\ 09:58, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

Astrology

Hi. Are you an astrologer? --Chris Brennan 16:18, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Opposition, Criticism, or Anti-

With the exception of Islam, most major religions have "Anti-". For example, Anti-Judaism, Anti-Catholicism, Anti-Protestantism, Criticism of Islam, Criticism of Mormonism. The problem with the title "Opposition to Mormonism" is that it is tooo POV. Opposition to illegal drugs, opposition to racisim, ok. How POV can you get about the pros and cons of racism? LoL. The only diehard opponents to Mormonism are other Christians. The old title assumes that all people are opposed to the religion, or that few people question reasons for its opposition, which is just not true. Anyway, I would like for you to edit the Criticism of Islam article. The article is accessible via the Islam template. As it currently stands, the article makes little attempt at being non-POV. --JuanMuslim 04:48, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Translate

Farhansher, Please translate this page अय्यावलि to Hindi. If you can also to Arabic. Hopes, Thank You - Paul Raj

Happy Ramadan

Have a very happy Ramadan. Salaam, a.n.o.n.y.m 00:12, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Dhul-Qarnayn

I was reading the discussion in Greavitar's talk page before getting your message. Thanks for informing me. I'll have a look. -- Svest 21:07, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I am sorry to say that I am not very knowledgable on the issue, but I find Zora's version to be shorter, cleaner, more precise and more neutral than Zeno's. I propose that the article be replaced with Zora's version and any smaller edits can be done later. Thanks, a.n.o.n.y.m 21:15, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
As for the Dhul-Qarnayn article, I think its better to focus on the article Criticism of Islam. It's full of inaccuracies and exaggerations. As for the Islamophobia article, look through the article's history, and if you think anything should not have been deleted readd it.--JuanMuslim 21:58, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

name

Go to preferences in your user menu > go to nickname. Adding something like this: < font color = name of color > (without the spaces in between) in front of your name will change it. So go ahead and make your nickname unique. Hope that helps. --a.n.o.n.y.m 20:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. I am very happy to support helppakistan. --a.n.o.n.y.m 20:57, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

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Hey that's coming along well. Need any help? --a.n.o.n.y.m 03:14, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Talk is clickable, just not while you are on your talk page. For example, see my talk page where you signed. I can click on talk there. --a.n.o.n.y.m 03:18, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Your contributions link isn't working. I would just remove it, it isn't really that necessary. And no I am not aware of any list. I know it gets really frustrating at times, but you have got to experiment for a long time to get it right. It is really easy for users that know a lot of web language. Also, what does f.a.y stand for? --a.n.o.n.y.m 03:26, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Nothing , the name was given to me by my "first love" , she got married afterwards...not with me...lol. f.a.y 03:30, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
lol.--a.n.o.n.y.m 03:31, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the link to the web colors. --a.n.o.n.y.m 21:24, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the welcome back. Yuber 21:58, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

testing

F.a.y.


F.a.y (تبادله خيال)


F.a.y.


F.a.y.

Farhan 04:47, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

F.a.y. 20:22, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

F.a.y.


F.a.y.! Farhan! Farhanser! Congratulations! What does تبادله خيال mean? Exchanging horses?!!! By the way, and seriously, 2 of my ex used to call me Fay. One is married (not to me) and the other one is missing!!! -- Svest 22:59, 14 October 2005 (UTC)  Wiki me up&#153;
تبادله خيال actually means exchange of thoughts . There were better words for this . Like pure persian گفت وشنید , or hindi version بات چـیت . But since Urdu wiki uses this word , I thought it would be better to stick to it . BTW , I couldnt understand , congrats for what ,& how your g/f went missing!! And what made you think خيال means horse . F.a.y. 21:08, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
So خيال means thoughts in Urdu. I tried to figure it out somehow as it means perceptions/dreams in Arabic (khayal), while (khiyyal) would mean horses and that's why I said it ;). No big deals about my ex being missed (I am not a serial killer). I think she just thought it was better for her to leave (this bighead) me alone! Congrats for finding a good new look (new signature). -- Cheers Svest 19:59, 17 October 2005 (UTC)  Call Big head


F.a.y. 21:09, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Islamophobia

Your link section was vandalized by an Islamophobe. I have reinstated the links, but be on the lookout for him to revert again. Yuber 04:04, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:What Misplaced Pages is not#Misplaced Pages is not a mirror or a repository of links, images, or media files that is why I took the links out.--CltFn 04:24, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Check the article out again. Oceansplash (probably Ali Sina himself) is trying to add a section from his hate site to it. Yuber 13:59, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Email for you

Check your email. Yuber 23:22, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I will email you in one or two days about the reverting thing. Check soon. I have to go right now. Salaam, a.n.o.n.y.m 11:11, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
Forget the email. Everything you need to know is here . Salaam --a.n.o.n.y.m 02:01, 22 October 2005 (UTC)


I forget why I was sending you an e-mail but I have too. gren グレン 08:10, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Yellowikis in Urdu

Salaam Alaikum,

Is there any chance you could help translate the Main Page of Yellowikis into Urdu? It is about 320 words. I've set up a link from the main page in English to the صفحہ اول Everyone that helps translate the main page into a new language gets a limited edition Yellowikis t-shirt. Best wishes PaulY (paul@yellowikis.org)--Payo 11:07, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you very much for your support. :) --a.n.o.n.y.m 20:57, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Islamic scientists

The list that I worked on contained scientists mostly from Iran and Persia. But I did give a list of names and short biographies of non-Iranian muslim scientists to User:Yuber a while ago. He said he would work on the list. I dont know whether he finished it. We also planned to make one huge jumbo muslim list of all the scientists from all countries. I dont know if that project was started either. I also recently finished writing the article Ophthalmology in medieval Islam which deals with ocular Islamic medicine regardless of nationality.--Zereshk 21:27, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Empty articles

Instead of making empty articles, please use Requested articles. Thank You. 42istheanswer 01:55, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Hey there

AOA -- I am back from travel overseas, and I know I have been delinquent in answering your messages on my talk page. Please forgive! Almost back in the swing of things again.

I meant to encourage you to vote here but then saw that you already had. Spread the word! BrandonYusufToropov 11:50, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Category:Muslim_Scientists

Hey, before you do any more work just know that it should be Category:Muslim_scientists... no capital for scientist... just thought you should know since it will have to be changed at some point. Also, you're getting into tricky ground with Arab astronomoers being Muslim scientists... to an extent yes.... but, we mustn't forget that Arab does not equal Muslim... because, in literature at least Arab Christians helped with a huge revival during An-nahdah Al-adabiyah... (do we have an article on that?). So... the first thing is just techinical... the second gets a lot trickier and I don't think we can really generalize quite that much. gren グレン 12:17, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Adminship

Hey, thanks for the congratulations. Hopefully I'll do a good job, well, at least not a bad job. Thanks for the vote too. gren グレン 22:57, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Qareen

Just a heads up. I don't know what you normally do but if you can avoid it, don't delete the content when adding speedy tags. I do it accidentally sometimes but, figured I'd mention it, you might also want to look at Category:Candidates for speedy deletion for more specific tags to give your reasoning. gren グレン 01:29, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

The Muslim Guild

I thought you might be interested in joining The Muslim Guild. --JuanMuslim 03:07, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi -- please take a look at this

http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Islam#A_brief_recap_--_please_read

It's quite important.

BrandonYusufToropov 13:08, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Sufism

I think it would be better if we started a single article named Sufi Philosophies and add cosmology & Lataif-e-Sitta in it . Since there will be a lot more concepts/philosophies coming up , I think it would be nice to have all of them in one article , rather than different pages . F.a.y. 21:33, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Why not both? My conception of an ideal wiki article is a hub, linking to related texts. You can always summarise on a central page, but whey lose content which can exist on a subpage? Sufi philosopy is going to result in a huge amount of content, over time. What we need to do is set up a good framework. Sam Spade 21:37, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
Sure I can help a bit with North African Sufism, it is radically different from Sufism practiced by non-native speakers of Arabic though and I'll have to explain tons of it.--The Brain 09:31, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Image:Allah Mosque.JPG

Hey, for this picture you need to add what license you release it under since you are the creator. You can do something like Template:PD-self or Template:GFDL-self, there might be other options... but, you creating it gives us the source, we now need to know how you release it... and for it to be on wikipedia it has to be a free license. That's pretty clever :) gren グレン 20:39, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Sufism

I saw you trying to clean up the Sufism article. :) Maybe you can write and propose what you want as the article at user:Farhansher/Sufism and then the others can vote on it. Salaam --a.n.o.n.y.m 01:11, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

yes

you should look at this ]

Eid Mubarak

Eid Mubarak to you and best wishes. --a.n.o.n.y.m 02:47, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Eid Mubarak

Best wishes to you and yours, brother. Thanks so much for all the good work you do here. BrandonYusufToropov 16:44, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks F.A.Y. 4 U 2 -- Svest 19:04, 3 November 2005 (UTC)  


Wish you all the best on this eid. --Ragib 19:05, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Eid Mubarrak to you too! --Khalid! 19:05, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks the same, my brother in Islam :) --Striver 19:07, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

re: Eid Mubarak

Thanks, and Eid Mubarak to you too. - ulayiti (talk) 19:59, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Eid Mubarak

Eid Mubarak to you and your familia. --1Muslim 17:30, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

FYI

You might be interested. --a.n.o.n.y.m 01:15, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

A "Spirituality" portal

Hi Farhansher,

Some editors have been discussing the possibility of creating a “Spirituality” portal. What do you think of the idea? RichardRDF 14:29, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

I entered some basics to get the ball rolling. I look forward to your participation in the Spirituality WikiProject and reading your contributions to the Spirituality portal. :-) RichardRDF 00:47, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

خیر مبارک

Happy Eid mubarik to you also

yeah i'm from Pakistan. الثاقب (WiseSabre| talk) 16:04, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

خیر مبارک from me, too.
iFaqeer (Talk to me!) 18:33, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Nikah

Eid Mubarak and thanks for your greeting. Could you please take a look at Nikah? The usual people are trying to add a link to a Daniel Pipes article that has little to nothing to do with nikah itself. Yuber 16:45, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Eid Mubarak

Sorry I was away and could not reply!

Heartiest Eid Mubarak from me as well. PassionInfinity 06:13, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Thank you

I just wanted to thank you for your support of my RfA which finally passed! I greatly appreciate it! Ramallite 04:09, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Spirituality

Okay I understand, but it still sort of looks strange down there. --a.n.o.n.y.m 20:55, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Spirituality

Template:Spirituality has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Templates for deletion#Template:Spirituality. Thank you. RichardRDF 17:42, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

W.Salaam'

Thanks for the heads up and info, it was appreciated.

--Street Scholar 19:26, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Muslim Guild

Actually, those Cyrillic character are just 'SFGiants' in Russian. I have no idea how to pronounce them. I'll get around to the description sometime in the next 24 hours. ςפקιДИτς 21:42, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Mohra Sharif

I have updated the page with a picture of Darbar-E-Aaliya Mohra Sharif and await your feedback.

خرم Khurram 15:32, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Islamofascism

They are trying to reinstate it. Can you please take a look? Yuber 16:31, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Never mind, problem seem's to have been solved. Yuber 05:35, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Sufism

Dear Farhansher , I did several edits to Sufism article , my goal was to clarify what different people think about Sufism , I guess it is worth its effort because no branch of Islam is prone to basic misunderstanding as Sufism.Some call it basically of non-Islamic origin and some try to define it in the framework of orthodox Islam to the point of ignoring the fact that Sufism is indeed more than religious piety and devotion.IF you feel my edits present a distorted image , please add or change as needed.Pasha 04:02, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Help

Please vote to redirect Islamofascism to Neofascism and religion...

... which is where it belongs. Vote here: BrandonYusufToropov 14:59, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Alaykuma'Salaam

Thanks for your welcome message. :-) Marzyeh 05:46, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

--

], the discussion of which you may or may not consider worth reviewing. BrandonYusufToropov 18:01, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Urdu Misplaced Pages

Asalam-o-Alikum

I request you to please contribute to Urdu wikipedia. We are trying hard to build this wiki. Current article count is 617. Your help in any way would be appreciated.

Please ehlp us to expand Wisesabre 06:37, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

"Islamaphobia"

You said that the Qu'ran doesn't say that turning away from Islam is punishable by death, and that that sentence was put in the article by an islamaphobe. The Qu'ran may not say this, but that doesn't mean it doesn't occur. I've heard of thousands of deaths of muslims who turned away from islam. Scorpionman 16:13, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi

I emailed you. --a.n.o.n.y.m 20:38, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for you welcome. I would appreciate if you would snd me information about Urdu keyboard instructions for Urdu wikipedia. Siddiqui 20:31, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

My RfA

Hi Farhansher! Thank you for your kind support on my RfA. -- Szvest 17:29, 25 December 2005 (UTC)  

Pakistani Wikipedians

Asalam-o-Alikum

Farhan could you please help in deciding which cat. we should keep.

Category:Wikipedians in Pakistan or Category:Pakistani Wikipedians

see this also Category:Wikipedians_by_location Wisesabre 07:42, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Salah

Salaam. By your edits to the salah thread, I'm going to go out on a limb and say you are Sunni and you follow the Hanafi mahdhab? I say this because of your seperating the Duha and the Ishraq. While most of the sub-continent hanafi ulema will say that it is two seperate prayers, many of the Arab hanafi's, as well as, to my knowledge, the ulema of the other mahdhabs will say that it is just one prayer. Pepsidrinka 22:03, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, mentioning that it is mostly according to hanafi scholars. Also, make sure you keep it NPOV, mentioning that the majority of these prayers are not performed by Shi'as, and are in fact considered a bidah. FYI, I also follow the hanafi madhab. Pepsidrinka 22:13, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Offensive jihad

Dude, you should only replace an article with a redirect when what you're redirecting to provides an adequate substitute. Unfortunately, the article "Combative jihad" is a chaotic ungrammatical misspelled disorganized mess (with a stupid name) which does not provide an adequate substitute for the "Offensive jihad" article at this time. Therefore, stop blanking the Offensive jihad" article. AnonMoos 02:45, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Aisha, Infidel, and Dhimmi

It would be appreciated if you could contribute to the current disputes at these articles. Yuber 20:08, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

enlisting meatpuppets for edit wars again Yuber... shame on you. -_- I'll be collecting examples of the many more stuff like this you do to be going to the admins. --Mistress Selina Kyle 20:30, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Sockpuppet accounts

Thanks for letting me know about these. Both Mr Data and Countering Systemic Bias have been blocked. SlimVirgin 21:44, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Rfa thanks

Hello Farhansher. Thank you for supporting my Rfa! I will try my best to be a good administrator. Please ask me if you need any help. --a.n.o.n.y.m 17:43, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hi Farhanshar! Thanks for your congratz on my adminship, I will do my best to be a good one. I don't remember having any negative interactions with you! I'd ask you when they were, but perhaps it's better to leave it in the past. Look forward to seeing you around! Babajobu 15:11, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Context

I have tagged a few of your articles {{wikfy}}{{context}} but it probably applies to several others. As far as context goes, it is probably sufficient to begin each article: In Sufi philosophy Haal is ... But the total absence of wikilinks is unforgivable. Please spend more time on each article providing proper outgoing links. -- RHaworth 07:02, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Eid Mubarak

Eid Saeed ! All the best for the holidays! --Irishpunktom\ 17:19, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Salaam. Eid Mubarak. Insha'allah everything went (and is going) well. Pepsidrinka 20:28, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

It never occured to me that you lived IN Pakistan. I figured you were Pakistani living in a western country, but that is what I get for assuming. Nonetheless, I have heard Eid stories from friends and relatives from Pakistan that Eid is alot more exciting over there, and in other Muslim countries in general. Eid over here is really just limited to the first day (both eid al-fitr and eid al-adha) where we do our salat, visit elders and other relatives, and then a big community get together during the night. It's good though, nothing to complain about. Well I guess I can complain about how much better Pakistani food is in Pakistan than over here. Enjoy. Pepsidrinka 20:40, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Eid Mubarak to you Farhanser! --a.n.o.n.y.m 00:33, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Divisions

Hi, regarding Divisions of Islam, maybe you could put the info you told me about Qadiriyyih onto the article. Add a summary of the two schools in the proper place and mention the name thing. Cuñado - Talk 20:15, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Sufi poetry

I've been working on the article on Persian literature and one of the main things lacking is a reference to the influence of the poetry of Rumi, Sa'di, Hafiz, Attar, etc. on Sufi poetry throughout the Islamic world. I'll try to put a section there and then set up a link to an article on Sufi poetry, with special attention to poetry as used in dhikr. Zora 21:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Salaams

pls check out the discussion at Talk:Islamofascism (term); proposal is to redirect to Neofascism and religion. BYT 20:21, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Sufism template

Fantabulous job! Keep it up! deeptrivia (talk) 21:33, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Re:Allah

Hi Farhansher! Literally speaking, Allah or Al-lah means "The God" (as you can see the definite article of Al which means The in English). However, theologically, the issue is a bit complex. When you say la ilah illa allah this would translate to there's no god but The God. IMO, as of most Muslims, Allah is the arabic word of God (the Abrahamic God). Lahoot is a derived word, yes. I am not sure if I could answer your questions. Cheers -- Szvest 15:17, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

2006 bin Laden video

I recently started 2006 bin Laden video. Please improve it in any way you see fit. Thanks. KI 23:24, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Template

Hello Farhansher. I have created a new template which you might be interested in called Template:PakistanTopics .--a.n.o.n.y.m 20:19, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

formal support vote

It seems like you support the compromise at Islamist terrorism, could you place a formal vote of support?(60% is required for a page move).--Urthogie 13:11, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

RfA Thanks

Please accept my embarrassingly belated thank you for supporting my RfA, which much to my surprise passed 102/1/1, earning me minor notoriety. I am grateful for all the supportive comments, and have already started doing the things people wanted me to be able to do. And hopefully nothing else... Just zis  Guy, you know? / AfD? 12:13, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Some articles to look out for

There is some bigoted POV-pushing on Islam:_What_the_West_Needs_to_Know, Jihad_Watch, and Honor Killing. Yuber 23:15, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Images

You will usually have to ask the person who made it or has it on his website to give you permission, maybe be email. Otherwise you can also try to find some on the internet which are under the free license. Check Misplaced Pages:Copyrights. Those images that you found are pretty good. --a.n.o.n.y.m 23:14, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Philosophy

You are correct. I added it to the science template instead. Maybe we should just have one template with science, arts, and more. --a.n.o.n.y.m 21:59, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

You know what? I was going to do the same thing and combine the templates into one about studies. You read my mind. I changed the title to studies so you will have to go to Islamic studies.
Can you help me by adding the template to all the articles? Thanks --a.n.o.n.y.m 19:57, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Ok.:) Good work. --a.n.o.n.y.m 20:14, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Cunyado

Might I suggest you nominate such a cheery and experienced user for adminship? I would do so my self, but I am relatively new here. Let me also suggest, since this is the 100th comment on your talk page, that you archive. Thanks. P.S. Jeff3000 would also be a great admin. KI 02:07, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Infidel page

I protected it because of the edit war. --a.n.o.n.y.m 00:36, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

You might want to ask Pepsidrinka or Joturner but they aren't admins or maybe ask Gren? --a.n.o.n.y.m 15:58, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
Actually I've already asked an admin whose dealt with this before to check it out. --a.n.o.n.y.m 16:08, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
I commented on it on the talk page under "translations" right before the vote. --a.n.o.n.y.m 14:15, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Okay I will look through the pages. Maybe you should mention this to Palmiro too. When will you be back to discuss? --a.n.o.n.y.m 20:18, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Dhimmi

I have put the "in use" tag on the Dhimmi page to avoid edit conflicts. Please refrain from editing the article while the tag is in place. Thanks.--Pecher 22:09, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Re:Kafir

I see no reason why the relation of "kafir" to "infidel" must be made conditional upon the relation of "goy or "nastik" to "infidel". These are separate issues meriting separate consideration. Anyway, if you wish to make an argument, supply your sources. On a separate note, you may want to archive your talk page, as it has become unwieldy.--Pecher 14:54, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Why do you believe that "kafir" and "infidel" are so different? The article on Kafir says that "It is often rendered into English as 'infidel'".--Pecher 15:27, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Pool 3

Dear Ferhansher,

I would like you please support Pool 3. It can help to delete these insults and have something acceptible. Thanks 216.248.124.210 10:04, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Hello

I took a look at those pages (i.e. Infidel/Kafir/People of the Book, there was another one), and looking through the history, its the usual people reverting, over essentially semantics. I think of the pages had content that was being disputed, but its really just a game they seem to be playing. Essentially the same people are/were involved with Dhimmi Watch and Jihad Watch. Right now those articles redirect to Robert Spencer. I don't think there's any reasoning these people to see one way or the other; each side is determined to have thier "version" put forth without any care for what the other side is even saying. Pepsidrinka 21:40, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Noor (light)

Hello, Farhansher. I have listed Noor (light) as a copyright violation from here. If you have permission to use the text, please give details on the copyright problems page (below the Noor entry), which is linked to in the template. Thanks, Kjkolb 04:20, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Image: Allah Mosque

I assume you want to GPL the image, I tagged it as assumed, if you have moment could you tag it with your intent. Thanks Tawker 06:42, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Edit summary

Please do not use edit summaries like 'rv hatemongering.' It does not usefully describe your edit, and may be misunderstood as calling another editor a hatemonger, which I am sure you do not intend. Thanks, Tom Harrison 14:21, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Maybe mediation would be useful. The mediation cabal does a good job, and it's informal. Tom Harrison 20:28, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

"rv Islamophobic POV" is not a useful edit summary. Commentary like this just increases the level of tension, and can become disruptive. Please, just narrowly and factually summarize your edit. 'rv to version x' is neutral and at least minimally informative. Thanks, Tom Harrison 13:50, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Request for edit summary

Hi. I am a bot, and I am writing to you with a request. I would like to ask you, if possible, to use edit summaries a bit more often when you contribute. The reason an edit summary is important is because it allows your fellow contributors to understand what you changed; you can think of it as the "Subject:" line in an email. For your information, your current edit summary usage is 21% for major edits and 50% for minor edits. (Based on the last 150 major and 40 minor edits in the article namespace.)

This is just a suggestion, and I hope that I did not appear impolite. You do not need to reply to this message, but if you would like to give me feedback, you can do so at the feedback page. Thank you, and happy edits, Mathbot 20:31, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

North african Sufism

Can you give a link to any site that tels about African flavour of Sufism . Living in Pakistan , I never get any info about african Sufi practices . Thanks . F.a.y.تبادله خيال /c 19:35, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

A chart

North African Tradition

The Badawiyyah 13 th century CE is big

The Shadhaliyyah 13 th century CE is big too and many orders are offshoots of them.

They mainly depend on repeating Qur'anic verses, and the 99 Names of God in specific orders in chapters called Hizb, your mix of Ahzab (plural of Hizb) depends on your class of knowledge of Sufism. have a few North African ones, feel free to ask me any question. --The Brain 23:42, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

3RR

Please be informed that you have reached a 3-revert limit on Dhimmi and Jizya. You may be blocked if you continue reverting. Pecher 07:55, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Alhizb Al-kabir

Here is a portion of Alhizb Al-kabir (the big Hizb) (Arabic: الحزب الكبير) , it deals with fear, God was talking in the majority of the Ayats to Moses his brother Aron and their mother (once in (20:77)). They are in this specific order. They are somtimes part of the Ayat (verse):


Draw near, and fear not. Verily, you are of those who are secure. (28:31)

"Fear you not. You have escaped from the people who are wrong-doers." (28:25)

Fearing (or fear) neither to be overtaken nor being afraid (of drowning in the sea)." (20:77)

"Fear not! Surely, you will have the upper hand. (20:68)

"Fear not, verily! I am with you both, hearing and seeing. (20:46)

Fear not, verily! The Messengers fear not in front of Me. (27:10)

And He will surely give them in exchange a safe security after their fear. (24:55)

And has made them safe from fear. (106:4)

(Then the Sufi prays): Allah (God) please secure and shelter us from all fear.....


There you go; full flavor of North african Sufism.;)It's hard to find on the net.

--The Brain 16:50, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Re: Some Articles

Hi Farhansher,

Yes, I saw edits of Pecher on the dhimmi article. I have a meeting with my advisor tomorrow, and then after doing some research, I'll try to help making this and other articles more NPov. Have nice times --Aminz 21:54, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

I really don't know what we should do with Pecher. First of all, he is assuming that whatever some scholars has said is true. Instead of writing them as the opinion of some scholar he writes it as a fact. Secondly, some of his quotes are clearly wrong. I think it would be good to provide evidences that the quotes are not facts. This will implicitly discredit the scholar that has made such quotes. Pecher clearly will not like it and may revert it. Adding the picture of Maimonides is irrelevant to the article, but he insists on adding the picture. I'll ask Yid613 who is a Jew to help us. Maybe that would help. --Aminz 01:14, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
I should add that I just realized that Pecher have had some very useful contributions to the article. Maybe I was kind of unjust when I was talking about him. But of course, some of his edits are POV. --Aminz 07:27, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Articles

Salam - thanks for your note, I recently tried to push back some POV on Kafir. I'll take a look at the others as soon as I can, and let you know if there are more problems. Sorry for the delay in my response. Ramallite 16:48, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Ongoing mediation

Your presence is requested in an ongoing mediation regarding the contents of several Islam-related articles. Thank you for your understanding. --Cyde Weys 02:40, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Nafs

Salam! I will see what I can do for an nafs-article - when I have time to do that... Take care, Mounir 08:05, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Adab

Adab from an Indian wikipedian. --Bhadani 09:20, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Alexander in the Qur'an article

Just a question about the part .

I don't know much about the Homer's view of the world, but it seems to me that if Qur'an wants to refer to this theory, it should say that "The sun rises/sets from/in the ocean (which is not fetid)". Is that true? Also, The title reads as sun rising from the fetid sea but I see the " spring of murky water" in translation. Does this support the Homer's view of the world? Thanks --Aminz 10:30, 21 March 2006 (UTC)


Misplaced Pages:Wikiethics

Hi,

We started a proposal Misplaced Pages:Wikiethics to state the existing policies coherently and make suggestions on improving the editorial standards in Wiki. I thought you might be interested in contributing to that proposal.

Unfortunately, a pro-porn and pro-offense lobby is trying to make this proposal a failure. They unilaterally started an approval poll although almost no one including me believe that it is time for a vote, simply because the policy is not ready. It is not even written completely.

Editors who thinks that it needs to be improved rather than killed by an unfair poll at the beginning of the proposal, started another poll ('Do we really need a poll at this stage?') at the same time. The poll is vandalized for a while but it is stable now. A NO vote on this ('Do we really need a poll now?') poll will strengthen the position of the editors who are willing to improve the policy further.

If you have concerns about the ethics and editorial standards in Wiki, please visit the page Misplaced Pages:Wikiethics with your suggestions on the policy. We have two subpages: Arguments and Sections. You might want to consider reviewing these pages as well...

Thanks in advance. Resid Gulerdem 19:43, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

The mediation

I just read "The articles" part of the ongoing mediation. I do agree with you and wrote my opinion there. Unfortunately it seems that there are much more people on the other side. Take care --Aminz 07:47, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Please post your favorite version of the controversial articles. They'll be kept there at least for awhile per "mediation". Thanks. --Aminz 01:54, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Since people are not convinced yet. We will post your version of the articles soon. --Aminz 02:38, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Best wishes

I'm sorry to hear about your injury. Best wishes for a speedy recovery. Tom Harrison 23:36, 25 March 2006 (UTC)