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I'm so sorry for the delay in responding; I had a pretty nasty flu. Yes, please userfy them so I can work on them some more before re-posting. Thank you so much, Fastily! Alexandra ] (]) 12:56, 11 October 2011 (UTC) | I'm so sorry for the delay in responding; I had a pretty nasty flu. Yes, please userfy them so I can work on them some more before re-posting. Thank you so much, Fastily! Alexandra ] (]) 12:56, 11 October 2011 (UTC) | ||
:Yeah, I'm a stupid clutz and accidentally edited your archive. *slaps self with trout* ] (]) 12:56, 11 October 2011 (UTC) | :Yeah, I'm a stupid clutz and accidentally edited your archive. *slaps self with trout* ] (]) 12:56, 11 October 2011 (UTC) | ||
== My recent block == | |||
I'm fairly disappointed. In spite of the 1RR technicality, you could have solved it in a friendlier way than a silent week long block, especially considering the amount of constructive edits I have made here. ] (]) 13:46, 11 October 2011 (UTC) |
Revision as of 13:46, 11 October 2011
I'm needing more help
Hope you don't mind that I made you my go to admin, but I'm having trouble again. Please take a look at the history of August 2010 West Bank shooting attack, I removed a sentence that seemed to be just a racist non-sensical quote from a random person. It was instantly returned, with a statement that my edit was based on me not liking it. I took it out again, and it was replaced, again Plot Spoiler stated I was doing it for seemingly personal reasons. I than realized that the quote mixed with the following sentence which proves the quote wrong actually makes it so that Plot Spolier is calling the man a liar, so I deleted due to wp:blp and wp:or. Plot Spoiler than re-adds again, again making attacks on me, saying I'm doing it for opinionated reasons, and again giving no insight into the value of the quote he keeps adding. He also posted a long threatening message on my my talk. Can you talk with him and give us both some advice on what to do now. Thanks, Public awareness (talk) 00:54, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- I've warned Plot spolier. Consider taking this issue to the dispute resolution noticeboard; tell them exactly what you told me. For the time being however, please don't revert Plot spolier again. I would rather not you inadvertently break the 3-revert rule. Regards, FASTILY 01:40, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- Fastily, I urge you to tell Public awareness to review the rules of Misplaced Pages. He has no basis for removing that quote, which came from a New York Times article. I have absolutely no idea what he's talking about the quote being wrong or me calling the man a liar. The quote is clearly from the The New York Times piece and elucidates the settlers' reaction to the attack and it has no bearing whether some people find the quote distasteful or WP:DONTLIKEIT. Plot Spoiler (talk) 02:08, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- I know, I did hesitate in even making my second revert, reverting doesn't go anywhere, though Plot was fine in making 3 reverts. I brought up the issue at dispute resolution noticeboard. Thanks, Public awareness (talk) 17:03, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
190.161.134.66
190.161.134.66, who you blocked on 4 October, is back, editing as 200.83.32.16. This edit to Reservoir Dogs is identical to the edit over which he edit-warred previously. The other edits the IP has made today are of the same style. I have reverted all of the IP's edits today, as it seems clear this is a block-evading sock. He implied on this talk page that he would get another IP and continue editing. I guess he kept his promise. ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 16:50, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- User(s) blocked. -FASTILY 19:47, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for your quick action on this! ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 22:15, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Donald Braswell
Hi, you recently deleted a page that I believe to be a mistake with a "Prod expired". I tried to do a restore request, but the request keeps erring out because the page doesn't exist. I may be doing the request incorrectly, as I'm not a wiki expert. Here is the reasoning I tried requesting it:
It was just discovered that Donald Braswell's wiki page has been deleted. I cannot now see what discussions were held regarding it's deletion, if there were any, and the reason the page was removed other than a PROD request. Donald Braswell was a Broadway star in the 1950's and was a performer at the 1968 world's fair at the Hemisphere. His list of credits, including his appearances on the Ed Sullivan show were listed on his page. He is the father of America's Got Talent Donald Brawell II. I would like to respectfully request that the page be restored. Thank you. -Wikiauthenticity (talk) 18:23, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Can you please help me sort this all out?
Thank you so much,
Cherie
Donald Braswell
Dear Fastily,
It appears that I was able to make the request for recovery of Donald Braswell's page ok, despite getting an error. Now I have two requests out there. Sorry to have bothered you with the last message. If you can do anything to help me sort this all out, though, I would appreciate it. Cherie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiauthenticity (talk • contribs) 18:30, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Mark Ridgers
The Article you deleted is substantially different to the last one discussed in the deletion discussion. There are now many sources that indicate he meets GNG. I only created because of this major difference did you check that. This should never be speedy deleted. I had in my userspace but i wish to contest your decision as the code you used was not what the article was nominated for nor do i beleive you checked to see if meets GNG should go to an AFD. Edinburgh Wanderer 21:16, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- Fair enough. -FASTILY 21:21, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry for being so pointy. Just couldn't see how meet the criteria for speedy its very different to the original and given very recent sources felt it now met GNG. To be honest the fact the nominator never bothered to advise of his nomination in the first place could my back up. I will remove the prod then its up to the rest of the community to decide whether to take to AFD. Just to ask can a copy of the article be placed back in my userspace if eventually gets deleted. Although i feel meets GNG i appreciate as yet he dosent meet WP:Footy although GNG should over rule that but if gets deleted do not want to lose the substantial work. Edinburgh Wanderer 21:29, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Exzavion
Hi,
you just speedily deleted Exzavion per my nomination. I wasn't really sure that it constituted a blatant hoax, as such, but I thought it was most likely a setup for an advance-fee fraud. Was that your interpretation? Is that sort of thing seen often on WP? TheMadBaron (talk) 21:24, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- Now that I look at it, it appears to be more advertising than it is a hoax article. I've adjusted the deletion log accordingly. -FASTILY 22:21, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
You removed my Helen Darras photo incorrectly.
The photo on Misplaced Pages is of myself, Helen Darras, and was taken with MY CAMERA. I own the camera & the digital memory card. It is copy-written by me, in my name. Why would you so aggressively remove a photo, without asking or notifying/contacting me first? Based on your own assumption & not fact? Please put the photo back up and contact me at: hdarrasrn@optonline.net Helen Darras — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hdarrasrn (talk • contribs) 23:18, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- What is your relationship to Island6111? -FASTILY 23:34, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your quick response. I am Island6111. Why do you ask? I use that user name on eBay., Helen Darras — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.190.9.148 (talk) 01:58, 10 October 2011 (UTC) Also of note, I got these emails a short time ago. They are under alias names, but they are all from Butch Patrick & Ethan Tudor W. They hide behind alias names & both have criminal records. First email to me: 7/29/11 Your Rep. is ruined, your WIKI has been hacked and you look like a dunce! Even your IMDB has been removed. I'm tweeting about you -Persaminor@yahoo.com (You see Fastly, I'm working on a $30 million dollar movie project with an Oscar winning staff. And they're jealous. And no, my IMDB is very much intact. However, my attorneys got IMDB to slice off 50% of THEIR phony IMDB credits.) Next email: 7/29/11 Don't you think enough is enough, or are you fucking mental? Well....I updated your WIKI and your IMDB. Just wanted to make sure people know what your really about. Listen Sister, as twisted as you are, I'm tweeting, posting, youtubing and more about YOU. - zoewinthrope@yahoo.com (Again Fastly, these messages are really from Ethan Tudor W. & Butch Patrick, both found on Twitter as @ethantudorw & @bpmunster. It's a case of credibility (mine) against convicted felons & drug addicts (them). Really pathetic, lifetime losers. Sorry I even wrote Butch's biography. Big mistake on my part. However, with the release of our new Major Motion Picture "Exile To Babylon" and Video Game "Dogs of Glory" by Epic Games and Graphic Novel from Dark Horse Comics which will all be released next year, my name will resurface on Wiki soon enough. I work hard. They don't., Helen Darras
Image-redirect deleted without fixing pointers to it
Was created less than a week ago as the result of an image-renaming and at least one article was using the image via this previous-location name. When you deleted the redirect, apparently before updating the articles that used the old name to use the new name instead, User:ImageRemovalBot came along and removed the now-redlinked image from the article using it. Special:Contributions/ImageRemovalBot has a mile of similar deletions--spot-checked and they are all as a result of this same type of action of yours. Please fix this mess. DMacks (talk) 23:21, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- I see. Please Mass-rollback any pages you found to be adversely affected by ImageRemovalBot. I'll have a script go through and repair everything once you've done that. -FASTILY 23:32, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- I rolled back all of the bot's deletions where the bot was the latest change and the removed image was a bluelink. Looks like you and/or others were also working on it maybe by a different process, so I may have missed one or two. For example, in at least one case I think some other editor had since edited the article further to put *some* image in its place, not sure (and don't care if that editor doesn't) if same as previous. DMacks (talk) 00:35, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- It's done now. I think I got everything. Regards, FASTILY 03:14, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- I rolled back all of the bot's deletions where the bot was the latest change and the removed image was a bluelink. Looks like you and/or others were also working on it maybe by a different process, so I may have missed one or two. For example, in at least one case I think some other editor had since edited the article further to put *some* image in its place, not sure (and don't care if that editor doesn't) if same as previous. DMacks (talk) 00:35, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Faster Than a Bullet deletion
You deleted Faster Than a Bullet against evidence. It had third-party coverage. I guess we'll have to get additional sources later. Don't bother to leave a note on my talk page since I will delete it without reading. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:28, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- Did you need something? -FASTILY 03:16, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Advice?
Hi Fastily, your opinion would be appreciated. Here the vignette "No Win Scenario" was added. The text is a direct copyvio from here which I don't care about, so there isn't a problem with "Gee, the STP2 gang is gonna get upset for the copyvio" - I won't, and can (am authorized to) speak on behalf of the rest of us regarding this type of matter. The problem is thus: we can't creative commons or pd the stuff, so even though we won't take any action, it's against WP's policies and I do not know what repercussions that might cause. I could simply rewrite it, except I have a very clear and definite COI with that topic (ya know, being one of the producers and such). So, your advice would be appreciated. Best, ROBERTMFROMLI | /CN 02:21, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- I have reverted the IP's edits. Copyright is a very serious issue on Misplaced Pages and there is a zero-tolerance policy on copyright violations. While editing/writing articles with a conflict of interest in mind is generally discouraged (particularly for new users who work for an organization or are paid to edit Misplaced Pages on behalf of an organization), it is not prohibited. That said, feel free to rewrite the section; I am confident you've been around long enough to know how not to introduce bias into articles or let a conflict of interest affect you. Regards, FASTILY 03:24, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks Fastily. Will do. ROBERTMFROMLI | /CN 03:26, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Deletions
Congratulations on passing me in total deletions. Keep up the great work. Maxim(talk) 03:03, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks :) Didn't know you were keeping track of that :P Cheers, FASTILY 03:24, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Daniel Severino
Please feel free to re-create this article. He has now made a senior appearance for Gold Coast United. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.65.80 (talk) 05:57, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Deletion of page Webiso
The page webiso which I had made is not a promotional/advertising page, I am working on the product webiso, and I wanted to share some knowledge on Webiso with others. as working on webiso may help a lot of people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mayanksri1989 (talk • contribs) 06:59, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Spyro the Dragon
Just wondering what this article was, and what you plan on moving into it. The disambiguation? The first game? The series? The character? You deleted the article 10 hours ago. What is going on? Blake 12:39, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- Er, it was deleted to make way for a move. A little more patience on your part perhaps? -FASTILY 21:23, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- Well, you deleted it, and then disappeared for 10 hours, where somebody else had to finish up after you. Not my fault I got paranoid. Blake 23:30, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Exeter services
You seem to have deleted Exeter services, obviously I can't see the page history, but did someone tag it for speedy or did you make the decision by yourself? Services articles have been the subject of lengthy AfD discussions, to which the consensus has always been to keep. Could you please be so kind as to restore the article so I can take a look at improving it. Right now you've left a red link amongst a series of articles! Thanks Jeni 17:23, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- After a second review, it doesn't look that bad. I've restored it. Regards, FASTILY 21:24, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Template:Milwaukee class monitors
from R3: "This page was deleted under as a result of routine housekeeping and non-controversial maintenance because it was an implausible, unused redirect." Bulwersator (talk) 17:41, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
OTAShirt-Front/Back
These images were wrongly deleted. They had been replaced with Free versions. Please revert (images and article updates), and look at file history before destroying content. --Belg4mit (talk) 18:06, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- You failed to make your case at Misplaced Pages:Possibly_unfree_files/2011_September_25#File:OTAShirt-Back.png. You neither explained why nor proved that the files were indeed freely licensed. -FASTILY 21:27, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- You are mistaken. I most definitely did provide free replacements. As I recommended before, you should check file history. --Belg4mit (talk) 13:18, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
New Meadowlands Stadium
Hello- I was away this weekend, but it seems there were vandalism problems with MetLife Stadium. The previous name was "New Meadowlands Stadium", and after it was changed to the MetLife name, "New Meadowlands Stadium" re-directed to it. Since the vandalism, and subsequent deletion, it no longer redirects. Can that be fixed? Kjscotte34 (talk) 21:34, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- This was just resolved by another user. Thanks! Kjscotte34 (talk) 23:16, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Adelmang
Hi, you just deleted the page
- Considering you admitted to being the marketing director for his theater on my talk page, I'm surprised you are wondering. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 03:51, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
- I'm also surprised. — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 03:59, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
You also just deleted a page I was creating about Showplace Ice Cream Parlour. It was tagged for speedy deletion just a few minutes ago and I posted a contest explaining that I was adding citations and more info and now it's gone before I could get back to it. Please let me know how I can help get this page restored so I can complete it. This is a legitimate tourist attraction in a resort town that gets thousands of visitors a week. Thanks. Adelmang (talk) 03:57, 11 October 2011 (UTC)adelmang
Chocolate City
Could you please restore Chocolate City? It was a disambiguation page, not an A1 candidate. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 04:18, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 04:19, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Fbot damaged text description
Hello Fastily. A week ago I left a message on the talkpage of Fbot, but now my message has been automatically archived without any answer from you. You probably should set the archiving on Fbot's talkpage to be less aggressive, or put a note there that you also check the archive (I sure hope you do check the archive).
To make sure you get this, here is my message again:
A month ago Fbot tagged one of my images with {{Orphan image}}. But while it did so it also changed all instances of "<
" to "<
" which completely damaged the image description and broke the {{Information}} template. Here is the diff
I hope Fbot hasn't damaged too many image pages in the same way...
--David Göthberg (talk) 05:46, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, I got the message. You speak of a problem which was resolved a very long time ago. -FASTILY 05:50, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
A little help?
Hi Fastily! I've come here for a little help as you were the admin who deleted two articles as I tagged them {{db-move}}. The issue is regarding three articles, Saathiya – Pyar ka Naya Ehsaas, Saathiya (TV series) and Saath Nibhaana Saathiya. The first article (Saathiya – Pyar ka Naya Ehsaas) was a 2004 TV series which was exclusively known by its full name, and should thus be located at "Saathiya – Pyar ka Naya Ehsaas". The third article (Saath Nibhaana Saathiya) is an extremely popular 2011 series which people call "Saathiya" and thus should be known as "Saathiya (TV series)". I had moved these yesterday, but Survir (talk · contribs) moved 'em back, saying that the first serial is referred to as Saathiya. If this was the case, a Google seach would atleast mention the 2004 serial somewhere. Yes, it refers to the Star Plus series as "Saath Nibhaana Saathiya" but even the network refers to the serial as "Saathiya" without "Saath Nibhaana" (logo; translation). I requested help from you because the matter went out of hands. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 06:46, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Advanced warning on FfD
Hi there. Since you're still pretty much the person that does FfD, I wanted to give you a heads up. Misplaced Pages:Files for deletion/2011 October 10, today's, and probably those of the next few days are going to have a few very similar sounding items, as I'm cleaning out Misplaced Pages:Database reports/Largely duplicative file names. Just letting you know that I'm not mindlessly listing the same file multiple times. Cheers. Sven Manguard Wha? 08:33, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Fastily, you STILL haven't re-posted my Wiki page/photo or responded to me as to why you took it down after you stated my photo "must have been taken by someone else." (???)
The photo on Misplaced Pages is of myself, Helen Darras, and was taken with MY CAMERA. I own the camera & the digital memory card. It is copy-written by me, in my name. Why would you so aggressively remove a photo, without asking or notifying/contacting me first? Based on your own assumption & not fact? Please put the photo back up and contact me at: hdarrasrn@optonline.net Helen Darras — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hdarrasrn (talk • contribs) 23:18, 9 October 2011 (UTC) What is your relationship to Island6111? -FASTILY (TALK) 23:34, 9 October 2011 (UTC) Thanks for your quick response. I am Island6111. Why do you ask? I use that user name on eBay., Helen Darras — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.190.9.148 (talk) 01:58, 10 October 2011 (UTC) Also of note, I got these emails a short time ago. They are under alias names, but they are all from Butch Patrick & Ethan Tudor W. They hide behind alias names & both have criminal records. First email to me: 7/29/11 Your Rep. is ruined, your WIKI has been hacked and you look like a dunce! Even your IMDB has been removed. I'm tweeting about you -Persaminor@yahoo.com (You see Fastly, I'm working on a $30 million dollar movie project with an Oscar winning staff. And they're jealous. And no, my IMDB is very much intact. However, my attorneys got IMDB to slice off 50% of THEIR phony IMDB credits.) Next email: 7/29/11 Don't you think enough is enough, or are you fucking mental? Well....I updated your WIKI and your IMDB. Just wanted to make sure people know what your really about. Listen Sister, as twisted as you are, I'm tweeting, posting, youtubing and more about YOU. - zoewinthrope@yahoo.com (Again Fastly, these messages are really from Ethan Tudor W. & Butch Patrick, both found on Twitter as @ethantudorw & @bpmunster. It's a case of credibility (mine) against convicted felons & drug addicts (them). Really pathetic, lifetime losers. Sorry I even wrote Butch's biography. Big mistake on my part. However, with the release of our new Major Motion Picture "Exile To Babylon" and Video Game "Dogs of Glory" by Epic Games and Graphic Novel from Dark Horse Comics which will all be released next year, my name will resurface on Wiki soon enough. I work hard. They don't., Helen Darras
- (talk page stalker) Here's a hint: don't be so aggressive! Hint number 2: sign in to your Misplaced Pages account! We admins are pretty nice for the most part, because we're here to help. It also allows us to actually know what you're talking about, because we can look through your editing history (including deleted ones). There is a photo uploaded to Wikimedia Commons of a Helen Darras - it's still there. Photos on Commons are usable on Misplaced Pages, in fact, that's the main location for photos for across all Misplaced Pages's. Based on your message above, there's more going on - and all of it is off-wiki. Keep it there. We are an encyclopedia of notable, verifiable, and existing things, events and people. Misplaced Pages doesn't care about imdb, or your offline e-mails (even posting them would be a violation of private messages). I would assume that in the longer run, you're hoping for an article about you. Thanks to WP:COI and WP:AUTOBIO, that article would be difficult for you to create. However, your photo - on Commons - is intact. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:51, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Here's a hint for you. I am an Organ Transplant Nurse. I save lives for a living. I have done so for 30 years. I'm aggressive when it comes to facts. That's why I've not had one case of medical malpractice filed against me in 30 years. You supposed "here to help me" message above, doesn't. My photo is up, but not the wiki page.?.?. First you talk to me as if I'm "impatient" after waiting 2 days. I'm glad you aren't burdened with the responsibility of taking care of hospital patients, they might not survive your "time tables." But wiki is not a life or death situation. WIKI made a accusation saying they mystically thought was someone else's photo of me was being posted uncredited & then "nominated" to remove it. Without SEEKING FACTS. No apology was given. And given your trite, patronizing, "hint this & hint that" statement above: consider manners. My posting of my emails was to point out to you that 2 individuals have indicated they intended to hack & remove my wiki info. Then my wiki info was removed. This is not an effort to "air dirty laundry." It is an effort to ENLIGHTEN YOU. Which, given your response of "off-wiki, keep it there," you aren't interested in enlightenment of facts. Again, thanks for all your kindness & understanding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.190.9.148 (talk) 11:58, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
- There's few major differences: number 1, all of us on Misplaced Pages - including admins - are volunteers. I, myself was away for 4 days because of a Canadian holiday weekend. There is no WP:TIMELIMIT. You also will quickly need to learn the concept of good faith. Every single admin, and indeed every single editor - including you - follows that simple policy. Your sarcasm, nastiness, and lack of good faith are creating a WP:BATTLEGROUND - and that does not help your case. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:10, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
- Let me add, you should read the WP:DELETE policy and processes. For example, in this case the article as proposed for deletion by someone (not Fastily) with specific reasons, and none of them were fixed within 7 days - based on policy, the article was deleted by an admin (Fastily). Typically, one could politely request a request from that admin OR at WP:REFUND to reconsider, which makes it a contested PROD. Removal of an article is never to be considered a personal attack on the subject - it merely means that the article (not necessarily the subject) did not meet the myriad of policies for inclusion on Misplaced Pages. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:15, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
You said "battleground." (?) And in big capital blue letters? I am not interested in ANY battleground, in big blue letters or otherwise. Also, regarding your info on your "volunteer" capacity on Wiki & Canadian Holiday info. I'm unclear why you've shared that information, as I'm also unclear that there exists any battleground taking place, in this tiny white window box posting. Perplexed. I won't bother you further with my inquiries on what I thought was a Wiki inquiry page, as (based on your statements above) I believe inquiries upset you....(?) Truly, sincerely & completely very sorry for all misunderstandings, Helen Darras
RE: Greener Living Soap Nuts, PokerView.com
I'm so sorry for the delay in responding; I had a pretty nasty flu. Yes, please userfy them so I can work on them some more before re-posting. Thank you so much, Fastily! Alexandra Adotrde (talk) 12:56, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm a stupid clutz and accidentally edited your archive. *slaps self with trout* Adotrde (talk) 12:56, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
My recent block
I'm fairly disappointed. In spite of the 1RR technicality, you could have solved it in a friendlier way than a silent week long block, especially considering the amount of constructive edits I have made here. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 13:46, 11 October 2011 (UTC)