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	:I'm sorry. I didn't realize that "Badrachel" was Rachel Abrams' own blog. — ] <sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 03:03, 25 October 2011 (UTC)		:I'm sorry. I didn't realize that "Badrachel" was Rachel Abrams' own blog. — ] <sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 03:03, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

			== Poorly sourced statement, possible original research ==

			I tagged two sentences in the article as problematic.
			#In the wake of this portrayal of OWS as antisemitic, transparency advocates have discovered substantial financial ties between the Wall Street firms and the Emergency Committee for Israel.
			#Two-thirds of ECIPAC’s contributions in the 2010 election cycle came from Daniel S. Loeb, CEO of Third Point Management, a New York based hedge fund.
			The first statement is sourced to a blog. The second statement is sourced to two ]; secondary sources are preferred. — ] <sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 05:05, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

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Occupy Wall Street Anti-Semitism reference

I'd be happy to find a completely non-opinionated source for this, and would then be open to deleting both Ynet and Al-Jazeera as sources, but let's not pretend both sources aren't simply opposing and opinionated points of view, and for now compliment each other well enough. -- Kendrick7 01:05, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

I think its unlikely that there'll be an article about this which isn't in an 'opinion' section. It could be included if the statement is made by someone notable. Clovis Sangrail (talk) 01:12, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

The Ynet article isn't an opinion column. The Al-Jazeera "article" is. Read them both and see if you can't tell the difference. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 02:16, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

That's what I meant - Kendrick was looking for a 'balance' article with an illustration of media bias. As Ynet shows, there is clear evidence of Antisemitic comments. Its unlikely that the same standard of proof can be met to demostrate that antisematism is being used for gain- there is a lot of opinion, but that thats not the same as a fact. The only way Kendrick's 'balance' can be included is if its referred to as an opinion from a relevant and strongly notable source. Clovis Sangrail (talk) 02:54, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Some potential news sources

At the bottom of the page: Emergency Committee for Israel Is Bad for Israel — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 02:50, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Reliable Sources

There is no blanket rule against blogs as reliable sources. It is perfectly appropriate to source some things to blogs. Blogs may be considered reliable for statements as to their author's opinion, as is the case here for Rachel Abrams. Likewise J Street's press release is a perfectly appropriate verifiable source for their own statements. Greg Comlish (talk) 03:02, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I didn't realize that "Badrachel" was Rachel Abrams' own blog. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 03:03, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Poorly sourced statement, possible original research

I tagged two sentences in the article as problematic.

In the wake of this portrayal of OWS as antisemitic, transparency advocates have discovered substantial financial ties between the Wall Street firms and the Emergency Committee for Israel.
Two-thirds of ECIPAC’s contributions in the 2010 election cycle came from Daniel S. Loeb, CEO of Third Point Management, a New York based hedge fund.

The first statement is sourced to a blog. The second statement is sourced to two primary sources; secondary sources are preferred. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 05:05, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

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