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Should Christian views on the Tribe of Dan be incorporated? For example, its absence from the list given in the Apocalypse (Revelation 7:5-8) is notable. PeterMottola 04:12, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

The tribe of Dan is generally believed to have been founded by Dan the son of Jacob. This however is not correct. Dan was the original progenitor of the tribe of Dan. He was the original and was named as Dan as this name means “Judge.” In later times other Dans were named after the original Dan but this was later used to hide the true origins of the Danites in the course of forming the new One God religion. The Danites were the followers of The Way and would not allow their tribe be contaminated by the new belief systems. They therefore became sidelined by the other tribes of Israel and mainly dispersed themselves across the earth to wait for the coming of the Son of the Widow. The tribe of Dan, in the time of Jesus Ben Miriam, were his trusted protectors and he promised them that if they should remain true to The Way and the Covenant, then they would have their place within the seven nations that would be formed under the guidance of the Seventh Sign, who would also be known as The Lamb and

Asscociations by name

The association between the Tribe of Dan, the Ancient Macedonians and the river Danube based on the similarity of their names sounds interesting. But could someone add a source for such an idea? Dimadick (talk) 08:10, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Dan's allocated area is incorrect

The Bible describes Dan being allocated area around Joppa/Jaffa and then moving north, not being allocated area in the north to begin with as the article incorrectly states!

118.93.34.205 (talk) 05:15, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Danaoi ?

= Achaeans(Akhaioi) = the Greeks! Böri (talk) 09:24, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

I am surprized the Greek origin of Danites is not mentioned here. Need sources though. 67.124.150.221 (talk) 23:45, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Recent edits

An editor has added a considerable amount of material based on sources we do not consider reliable, specifically self-published books. See WP:RS. If they or anyone else wishes to restore the parts I've deleted, please discuss it here first. I'm not convinced what I've left meets our criteria at WP:VERIFY and WP:NOR. Dougweller (talk) 09:01, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

The edits are:

It is suggested by historians the tribe partially descends from the Denyen Sea Peoples, whom some said were absorbed into Israel, joining with Hebrews to form one of the original 12 tribes. The Denyens' conquests in the 13th and 12th centuries B.C. have been archeologically proven to coincide with and identical to the Israeli conquests of the Bible. It has been suggested Dan's mother Bilhah was from the Denyens and her son named accordingly. The most famous Danite was Samson, whom some suggest is derived from Denyen tribal legends.

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Another characteristic of this tribe was to explore new territories, having a tendency to name them after Dan. Shortly after the Exodus, Danites are said to have settled in southern Greece where they became known as the Danai. In 1285 B.C., an attack by the Assyrians prompted many in the tribe to sail away on their ships, settling in other territories. It is suggested the tribe is the origin of much geographical identity in Europe as well nations, including the Danube River, Denmark, Sweden, Danzig, Dunkirk, and Donegal. British Israelism is part of this possible history. Jordan is speculated to have been named for this tribe after conquering Laish, but this is discounted by some historians who claim it was named before the conquest.

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Wheres Dan (talk) 11:57, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

I repeat, we don't use self-published books by publishers such as Wheatmark, iUniverse, etc, or random websites, as sources. Dougweller (talk) 05:50, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Recent edits by Wheres Dan

I'm about to take a Wikibreak, but quite a bit of the stuff added today seems to be based on dubious sources, much of it 19th century, some Freemason sourced. And how could a tower of Emmaus Nicopolis have been a landmark if Emmaus Nicopolis is as recent as its article suggests? And an 1833 source for its astrology season? Dougweller (talk) 10:08, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

As recent? It's an ancient city.

Astrology seasons do exist. {See: "Astrology: the Seasons"} The scorpion was a symbol of the tribe, and Scorpio is found in the middle of autumn.

What does it matter what the year of the source is? Has it been refuted, discredited; unsourcable? I'm going to research more into the X Haplogroup found in and around ancient sites in the Midwest, the Great Serpent Mound in the Midwest, ancient shekels found in Massachusetts this century, and Menasseh ben Israel's American Lost Tribes belief while you're on wikibreak. Is Brutus Buckeye Prince Bukki of Dan reincarnated? We don't know it all yet.

Wheres Dan (talk) 21:13, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

There doesn't seem to be any evidence Emmaus Nicopolis is much older than the 2nd c. BCE. Don't even bother with X Haplogroup - it's X2 and not relevant, any more than the 126 BC to 66 AD shekel (which I seriously doubt was traded by the Phoenicians with the Vikings, don't people even check any history before making statements like that?). Sure, Menasseh Ben Israel writing almost 500 years ago thought the Lost Tribes got to South America, it might belong in a history of weird ideas, but not here. Dougweller (talk) 21:27, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

You're an anti-Semite.

Wheres Dan (talk) 22:28, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

1. "The Dying God: The Hidden History of Western Civilization", David Livingstone. iUniverse, 2002. ISBN 0595231993, 9780595231997. p. 72-73
2. Mediterranean archaeology, Volume 16. University of Sydney. Dept. of Archaeology. 2003. p. 117
3. [http://books.google.com/books?id=uEpLN6kKppMC "Infamous Eve: A History", May Sinclair. Wheatmark, Inc., 2007. ISBN 1587367157, 9781587367151. p. 117
4. "Dan – son of Jacob", Bible Discovered. February 20th, 2009. Accessed 21 september 2011
5. "Samson: the hero and the man : the story of Samson", Peter Lang, 2006. ISBN 3039108522, 9783039108527. p. 278-282
6. Cite error: The named reference AB was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
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8. "A Biblical cyclopædia ; or, Dictionary of eastern antiquities, geography, natural history, sacred annals and biography, theology, and Biblical literature, illustrative of the Old and New Testaments", John Eadie. Charles Griffin, 1868. p. 194
9. "Palestine: the Bible history of the Holy Land, Volume 2", John Kitto. C. Knight, 1841.

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