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| ::::::In that case, you may delete the article. I think I see what you are saying. It's sorta like ] and ]. Even though ] appeared on both of them as a regular, they aren't spin-offs. Understand that I will find out a way alone to revive this article with proper information. It's kinda hard the way you look at it, because ''JAG'' is older than ''NCIS''. ] (]) 01:53, 8 November 2011 (UTC) | ::::::In that case, you may delete the article. I think I see what you are saying. It's sorta like ] and ]. Even though ] appeared on both of them as a regular, they aren't spin-offs. Understand that I will find out a way alone to revive this article with proper information. It's kinda hard the way you look at it, because ''JAG'' is older than ''NCIS''. ] (]) 01:53, 8 November 2011 (UTC) | ||
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Thanks for the notification, I had forgotten he even had an alternate account! I've left him a message at his talk page and will see where it goes. Thanks again. Worm · (talk) 08:32, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
JAG/NCIS (franchise)
Hello, I noticed that you proposed deletion today. If it isn't that way, should we rename the article? Also, what should be there, and what shouldn't be there? Give me the list of things and I can try my best to improve. Suite1408 (talk) 01:04, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, I have moved the article with a new name. Now what else do I have to do in order to prevent it from being deleted?Suite1408 (talk) 01:19, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think moving it helped, in fact in my mind it has made the original search worse. I fail to see any reliable sources that consider all these series to be part of a single franchise. Franchises generally share names/themes/styles but change location/time while that is true of NCIS it is not of JAG and the fact that the backdoor Pilot for NCIS was in JAG does not change that. Even if you were to remove JAG from the article however you would really just be discussing the same ground as NCIS (tv series), as the franchise is so small and I think the reasons for keeping are few and far between. Finally please note how our other franchise articles are written Law & Order (franchise) and Star Trek being reasonable examples - concentrate on sourced prose discussing the similarities/differences rather than trivia lists.Stuart.Jamieson (talk) 04:26, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
- Do you mean that I should find how the whole franchise was created? Besides, I was trying to find those sources. I've been asking for help, but I've gotten no where. I do need help on getting stuff together to avoid the trivia stuff. Suite1408 (talk) 01:42, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
- How about you straighten things out on the article, because I don't understand what's going on exactly. If you can't, do you know another Wikipedian that is elligible to do what needs to be done to save the article? Suite1408 (talk) 04:36, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
- Let me try and explain again - There is no such thing as a "Jag" Franchise. For it to exist NCIS would have been titled "JAG: NCIS" and NCIS: LA would have been "JAG: NCIS LA". NCIS was introduced through a backdoor pilot, but this does not make it part of JAG as your article is claiming. There are no reliable sources to back up the claim that NCIS is part of JAG. The same would be true if you decided to claim that "The Finder" was part of a "Bones" franchise - it's not - it was just introduced through a backdoor pilot but it's otherwise independent.
- Clearly there is an NCIS franchise as LA is titled "NCIS: LA" but with only a single spinoff most of the material that would go into an NCIS (franchise) article already exists in NCIS (TV series) and there is (at the moment no need for an article on the franchise unless another Spinoff from NCIS is created. In short I do not believe the article has merit and you would be better improving NCIS (TV series) instead. Since you have removed my Proposed deletion I will list the article at WP:AfD where you can try and defend the existence of the article to a selection of editors. Stuart.Jamieson (talk) 06:31, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
- In that case, you may delete the article. I think I see what you are saying. It's sorta like Law & Order: Special Victims Unit and Homicide: Life on the Street. Even though John Munch appeared on both of them as a regular, they aren't spin-offs. Understand that I will find out a way alone to revive this article with proper information. It's kinda hard the way you look at it, because JAG is older than NCIS. Suite1408 (talk) 01:53, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Copyright
You were involved in a discussion here, which has been alluded to in a new discussion here. I'm letting all editors in that first discussion, other than those who are already participating and one who has been banned from interacting with me for hounding, know of this newer discussion.--Epeefleche (talk) 21:34, 18 November 2011 (UTC)