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Hi everyoneDominus Vobisdu (talk) 23:25, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Baltic Languages

Man, you live in Poland, but you do not know that Lithuanian language, like Latvian, has practically nothing in common with other Slavic languages! This is in contradiction to the popular belief by many westerners (thanks to the occupation!), who have a bias (thanks to ignorance!) to somehow affiliate us with Slavic languages. Where the hell does this group of Balto-Slavic branch in the Indo-European language family come from!? There was never such thing as one Balto-Slavic language which separated into two, as opposed to possible speculation with Latvian and Lithuanian languages. You should know, that for instance, Hungarian language has way much more stuff borrowed from Slavic languages than Lithuanian or Latvian. Why isn't it then Finno-Ugric-Slavic Group? This kind of grouping is quite an insult to the Baltic separate identity and should be first corrected in the Indo-European family branch from single Balto-Slavic languages into two separate Baltic and Slavic and then, exactly for the same reason, emphasise that Lithuanian language is ONLY similar to Latvian, the other Baltic language (as opposed to popular (and very offensive!) belief).

If you claim to be free and objective encyclopedia, please, do not only rely on some American linguists (who probably never even heard Lithuanian or Latvian as opposed to Russian) and look at this chart released by Lithuanian Science and Encyclopeadia Institute: http://www.musicalia.lt/meli/animacija.php?AId=23&id=55. Peace, bro. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RammyJuice (talk • contribs) 23:29, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Sorin Olteanu

A simple Google search would have shown that Sorin Olteanu is a well trained classical philologist, not an urologist. Your argument concerning what you called "fringe science" is thus rendered moot. Please revert yourself, as I can't discern between all those edits permformed on the Thracians article. Best. ITSENJOYABLE (talk) 12:49, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

See talk page? Where, mine, your or the discussion page? Bee specific, as well as you should be with you editions. I think if you are American you know nothing or very little about Silesia. It must be other power than knowledge which drive you to do the contradictions. What it is? --Cleaghyre (talk) 22:02, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Dacia

Hi, I saw that you collaborated on articles related to Dacia and thought this could be of interest: WikiProject Dacia is looking for supporters, editors and collaborators for creating and better organizing information in articles related to Dacia and the history of Daco-Getae. If interested, PLEASE provide your support on the proposal page. Thanks!!--Codrinb (talk) 04:36, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Quote v quotation

Hi, I'm putting this on your page as well as the article talk page in case you're not watching it. I think your reversion was a mistake. quote n 1. (Business / Commerce) an informal word for quotation http://www.thefreedictionary.com/quote

Merriam-Webster doesn't even give a definition of quote as a noun. Yopienso (talk) 16:58, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

I see I didn't look far enough in Webster's. Sorry. Yopienso (talk) 23:52, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Evolution: can a biochemical characteristic be considered a "trait"?

I see that you are an "American microbiologist", so, presumably you can provide good reasons for undoing my edit (13:36, 17 January 2011) of Evolution.

My edit contained a warning which resends to the section Can a biochemical characteristic be considered a "trait"? of Talk:Evolution.

Please provide your argument, backed up by valid citation, before you attempt to undo my edit again.

Miguel de Servet (talk) 13:55, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

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Preferably and procunciation

It's not POV, but an opinion of many translators (not only Belczyk), who want their translations to be understandable rather than literal (in accordance to the EASE Guidelines). The reference is not immaterial, as it has been displayed on that page for 8 years and has affected oppinions of many translators since then. I'm also surpised that you changed "ts" to "c", because "c" is displayed as a square. In IPA, "ts" is the correct notation of this consonant.--Sylwia Ufnalska (talk) 14:14, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

The problem is that this literal translation appears also in texts outside Misplaced Pages, and in interpreting. Translators and interpreters tend to forget that this is completely incomprehensible to most foreigners. Unfortunately so far there has been no authority on translation but Misplaced Pages starts to become such an authority. That is why I think it is very important to write "preferably" here. Or, perhaps, "understandably" if this is more acceptable than "preferably".--Sylwia Ufnalska (talk) 15:40, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Great thanks for your explanations. I now understand you better. However, I don't quite agree with you. If we think that something is stupid, we should try to change it. Even if it seems too late. I tried to change the literal translation of województwo in Misplaced Pages several times but my edits were always reverted. But this time I added the refernece for the first time, as I now know the procedures better.--Sylwia Ufnalska (talk) 19:43, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :-). Best wishes to you, too.--Sylwia Ufnalska (talk) 08:22, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Autonomy

If you have a source that it was revoked in 1935, please add it. I only know of the 1945 act.--Kotniski (talk) 15:27, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Reverting

It seems you have gotten yourself drawn into a rather wild revert war with User:LUCPOL over the Silesian Voivodeship (1920–1939) page. Now, I know LUCPOL can be a nightmare to deal with, and some of his edits were quite obviously unacceptable, but I'm sure you are aware you're still not supposed to go beyond 3RR, right? I'm just about to slap a rather large fish on LUCPOL, just not sure what to do with you. Fut.Perf. ☼ 23:41, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Okay, since I see you have otherwise a track record as a positive contributor, and I've just indeffed L. anyway, let's leave it at that then. By the way, cool username.  :-) Fut.Perf. ☼ 00:04, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Ip 190.80.8.6

Thanks for your note, and for checking on the problem. I doubt the LaRouche editor is the same person who did the vandalism. I suspect that the IP is being used as a proxy, and I'll post on the proxy noticeboard when I have a little more time. Cheers,   Will Beback  talk  22:12, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Origin of concept of ID

Hi. I'm interested in your ideas, but think further discussion on the article talk page may be inappropriate. (If you disagree, feel free to paste this in over there.)

First, though, your chiding tone is wearying. This:

Trying to trace a direct line, or even an indirect line, from modern ID back to any school of religious thought from the Age of Enlightenment would be an exercise in patience, if not futility. I therfore think that there is no reason to even mention Natural Theology or any other Enlightenment-era school of thought, except in passing, as I have done.

is well and good. The puzzle is why you seem to be blaming me for what has been in the article for years (I only checked back as far as Nov., 2008):

In the early 19th century, such arguments led to the development of what was called natural theology, the study of nature as a means to understand "the mind of God"... Intelligent design in the late 20th and early 21st century is seen as a development of natural theology that seeks to change the basis of science and undermine evolutionary theory.

You have only just removed this long-standing bit of information; why do you chide me for asserting it is true? Further down in the article remains a statement that I understand as my "reaching" or "harking back" idea: . . .they want a redefinition of science as a revived natural theology (My bold.) or natural philosophy to allow "non-naturalistic theories such as intelligent design".

Again in a chiding tone you allege my "concept of the topic of this article is too expansive," ignoring the fact that I was in favor of cutting out some of the history and applauded your doing so. Also, note this exchange:

A section should be added to the article mentioning atheistic intelligent design and it's proponents. 86.10.119.131 (talk) 20:58, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

That's what I used to think, but have accepted that the scope of this article is not that broad. I understand atheistic intelligent design, if there is such a thing (Raëlism? Probably too fringe.), belongs at Teleological argument. Yopienso (talk) 21:59, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

After considerable discussion in which I had no part, a week later I wrote:

This is covered in the Raëlism article: "Raëlianism is an atheist religion that believes, not in God, but in extraterrestrials." It should not be ignored here, imo. So we could revamp this article to cover "Intelligent Design" wherever it has a foothold, rename it so it covers only ID as espoused/endorsed by the Abrahamic religions, or add it to Teleological argument. My instinct is to intelligently redesign :) this article to include Raëlism and let the Intelligent design movement article cover the mainly, though not exclusively, Christian ID movement that actively pushes for creationism to be taught in American public schools, leaving Teleological argument free of any fringe stuff. Yopienso (talk) 00:27, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

I have no intention of fighting consensus, and am happy with your recent changes. All the stuff you just removed made the article seem to include more than the DI version; you have helped focus it.

You wrote,

You seem to be clinging to the phrase "when virtually everyone believed in intelligent design", and, for the life of me, I can't figure out why. I hate to put it so frankly, but you have failed to convince me that Enlightenment-era Natural Theology and similar schools of thought have anything at all to do with modern ID at all, except perhaps in a very tenuous, trivial sort of way that does precious little to inform the reader about the topic of the present article.

I specifically answered your question on 23:30, 11 May 2011. Why do you think the Natural Theology bit was there for years under the watchful eye of Dave souza if it is so foreign to the article?

If you think about this you may realize we are pretty much on the same page and can work together fruitfully.

Regarding the fork--and here I felt you were engaging, not chiding--there are many, many splinters of Christianity. There is no monolithic Protestant belief, although we could find a majority consensus along with a myriad of violently dissenting minorities. When you say there was a "complete break," do you mean all Christians embraced evolution? Certainly they did not. Even the NCSE doesn't make that claim:

This final break with traditional belief was psychologically the most difficult of all. To some, this meant that God was no longer required to explain the formation of new species. Most disturbing of all, God was not even required to explain the formation of humankind. Some reflective theologians realized that the strictly literal view of the Creation had to be abandoned as knowledge about nature and natural processes grew more detailed. The Church of England, in fact, accepted evolution by natural selection within a few decades of the writing of The Origin of Species.

"Some." What about the rest? What of Charles Spurgeon and Samuel Wilberforce and many others?

Anyway, I'm glad the article is making more sense. Yopienso (talk) 09:06, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your thoughtful reply on my talk page. Now I see why this article is so confusing: there is not a consensus about its topic or about the history of ID. Yopienso (talk) 01:06, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

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Add. A.McIntosh

Ref.: "Reverted chnages by User: stephfo to last version by User:Hrafn for reasons given by Hrafn and lack of reliable secondary sourcing.
->I regard your requirement for secondary sourcing on own claim of certain person for argument add absurdum - can you please explain why secondary source should know better than person himself what he claims? Sounds like logical fallacy to label a statement of person as "Citation needed" and then keep erasing that reference based on argument "lack of reliable secondary sourcing". It is demonstarble the Misplaced Pages is full of references of claims of certain persons to their own papers. --Stephfo (talk) 13:46, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Pls. Check also: "If you can provide a reliable source for the claim, please be bold and replace the "Citation needed" template with enough information to locate the source." in Misplaced Pages:Citation_needed.--Stephfo (talk) 14:20, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your Poland-related contributions

Hello and welcome Dominus Vobisdu! Thank you for your contributions related to Poland. You may be interested in visiting Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Poland, joining the project, joining our discussions and sharing your creations with our community.

--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 16:45, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Pls. Accept my apology

Add."By chance I happened to be over at the ANI notice board on an unrelated matter, where I saw that Stephfo had filed a notice against you, but had failed to notify you. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 18:48, 20 July 2011 (UTC)" - I did not know the rule is that I should notify the person. I hope you will notify in future also when someone files a notice like this against other users:" Just putting the board on notice that on Objections to evolution User:Stephfo has been WP:POINTY and has probably crossed 3RR at this point (I would do the report myself but I really hate putting together 3RR cases) as both his username and User:88.88.83.52. He appears to be a creationist attempting to push his POV and if you check out the talk page I think you'll see immediately why I'm bringing it here for attention. I'm also not quite willing to make the accusation, but his writing style is reminding me of someone else, I'll wait and see if anyone else picks up on that before I mention any names. Noformation Talk 01:23, 17 July 2011 (UTC)" Thanx a lot in advance--Stephfo (talk) 21:51, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Possibly false accusations

I'd like to ask you regarding your statement "I've read the paper, and it is basically gibberish, and contains gross fundamental errors in basic biology and biochemistry. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 18:59, 18 July 2011 (UTC) " related to topic "Creationist views on the Second Law of Thermodynamics" why there is no answer by you on my following Q: "Would it be please possible to enlist the three major fundamental errors in basic biology and biochemistry you have managed to find in that text? Thanx--Stephfo (talk) 12:22, 20 July 2011 (UTC)"

Do you acknowledge that you do not have anthyng real to demonstrate the validity of your claim and consequently are withdrawing your argument or do you need some more time to recall your original observations? Please, clarify. Thanx in advance.--Stephfo (talk) 23:27, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

There's no answer because an answer would be pointless. The paper had already been rejected on other grounds (primary, self-pub, not notable, no representative, etc), so asking what scientific errors it contains is purely academic and beating a dead horse, which seems to be your specialty. Answering would be a waste of my time, and I don't plan on wasting any more time on a most uncivil editor like you. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 00:04, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

1. Please explain what in particular you regard for uncivil so that I can improve. People might have different views what uncivil means, for someone it is asking to confirm the truthfullness of declarations, for others it might be ungrounded accusations that are providing no evidence whatsoever.

2. What exactly is regarded as self-pub in given paper?

3. What is regarded as not notable?

4. No representative of whom?

5. Are you declaring in other words that you used the tactic of fabricating a charge to make your argument stronger knowing that later you will be able to declare any request for demonstration of your claim for pointless so that you can state virtually anything you want without bothering if it is actually truth?--Stephfo (talk) 11:06, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Poles

to według ciebie Lechici i język polski, biologia i historia kultury, oraz publikacje PAN nazywasz nacjonalistycznym szitem ? (talk) 06:38, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Personal comment

This comment is, in my opinion, very condescending and hostile and doesn't appear to facilitate cooperation, compromise, and collaboration which are requisites for productive editing in the wiki. Please address the edits, not the editor and avoid pejorative comments. Thank you. Cla68 (talk) 12:27, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

against "voivodeship" again

Please see the discussion at Talk:Voivodeships of Poland.--Sylwia Ufnalska (talk) 12:51, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your insightful comments there. May I once again invite you to WT:POLAND? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 15:45, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Wedge Document

DV, you insist on reverting my edits on that page without any justification of your revert, without actually spelling out that you have reverted, and without engaging in a discussion on the talk page about it. This is unhelpful behaviour and I would appreciate you adopting a more constructive approach. I am not attempting to be disruptive (as your edit summary insinuates), I am trying to improve what strikes me as a very POV article. MissionNPOVible (talk) 07:24, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

I note that you didn't hesitate to call in the cavalry! Pathetic. MissionNPOVible (talk) 05:45, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Canvass

Hi Dominus, wanted to drop you a note about Homosexuality. The editor in question only posted a notice at the Homosexuality article. They did not post a notice at any other related articles such as Religion. This selective notification is a violation of WP:CANVASS "an attempt to sway consensus by selectively notifying editors who have or are thought to have a predetermined point of view or opinion." – Lionel 12:37, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

My, I wonder how that article is related, Lionelt, indeed that might be violation of WP:CANVASS. I posted a neutral message to a directly related article's talk page, in compliance with WP:CANVASS.

@Dominus Vobisdu - thank you for explaining the guideline to Lionelt and restoring my notification --~Knowzilla 13:10, 31 July 2011 (UTC).

Poznań

Really funny. I also translate for Maciej Giertych's Institute of Dendrology (which belongs to PAN, not UAM in fact) as well as for UAM, AR and many other institutions. I'm very glad that you like Poznań. I hope to meet you here some day - please let me know when you come. And thanks for the tip! Sylwia Ufnalska (talk) 21:58, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

At an international conference I'm organizing a special session for science translators (in June next year in Tallinn). Would you be interested in participating and, perhaps, giving a short talk on a topic closely related to science translation? I already have three submitted abstracts of short talks but would happy to have one more.--Sylwia Ufnalska (talk) 18:17, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Links to CRARG website from Misplaced Pages articles for Polish towns

Dominus-- The Czestochowa-Radomsko Area Research Group ("CRARG") website is devoted to Jewish genealogy and history in the area of (not surprisingly) Czestochowa and Radomsko, Poland. CRARG is a nonprofit 501(c) organization that indexes Polish records and makes them available to members. I added the CRARG home page as an external link to the Misplaced Pages articles on towns that had a substantial Jewish population. You flagged those links as spam and took the links down. Would the external link be appropriate if, instead of linking to the CRARG home page, I instead linked to the CRARG page for the town to which the article is directed (see, e.g., http://www.crarg.org/czestochowa-poland-jewish-records.php)? Those pages generally include some history concerning the Jews of the town, as well as a list of Jewish surnames for that town. Those pages also include information about CRARG membership, which I assume to be the reason that you flagged the links, but I suspect that one of the principal reasons why Misplaced Pages users are interested in articles about these towns is because their ancestors came from these towns and they are interested in learning what genealogical information may be available for those towns. I appreciate Misplaced Pages's mission and its achievements, and I do not want to do anything that is contrary to Misplaced Pages's policies and practices. Thank you for your time and your assistance. JeffWexler (talk) 01:40, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

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Dominus-- Thanks for your quick response, and for your explanation. I'm seeking clarification to see whether the operators of the CRARG website could, if they chose, modify the website in a manner that would satisfy Misplaced Pages's linking policy. I assume that Misplaced Pages policy doesn't bar links to a website that contains information that pertains very directly to the subject matter of the Misplaced Pages article containing the external links simply because the website belongs to an organization that solicits members; instead, the policy bars links for the purpose of advertising or promoting the organization. Accordingly, if CRARG had a stand-alone website providing historical and geographical information about a town, I assume that a link to that website wouldn't violate the policy against advertising or promoting an organization. (I recognize that the website would need to satisfy other requirements as to the specificity, relevance, and reliability of content.) Similarly, I assume that the policy wouldn't be violated if the same content were on a web page on CRARG's website as long as that web page did not link to pages that publicized or advertised CRARG. Would the result be different if CRARG had a web page providing the same information (without overtly advertising or publicizing CRARG), but had links to other pages on the website that "advertised or publicized" CRARG by referring to its genealogical mission and soliciting members? I can see policy arguments going both ways. . . . Thanks again for your assistance and insight. JeffWexler (talk) 03:07, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

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Dominus-- CRARG's website now includes a page with information concerning the history of its towns of interest (and, I believe, eliminating anything that advertises or publicizes CRARG). http://www._____.org/history-project.php (For the underlining in the website, please insert "CRARG"; I wasn't allowed to post the website address because links to CRARG have been blacklisted.) As you will see, more work remains to be done on that page -- more history may be added, and CRARG members have been asked to supply their own information -- but I think that this version of the page satisifies Misplaced Pages policy as I understand it. Please let me know if you agree; if so, I won't need to bother user:piotrus and user:kotniski. Conversely, if you see other issues, I'll report them to the website operators for their consideration. I envision an external link to this history page from each the Misplaced Pages pages for each of the towns of interest described as something like "CRARG - Jewish History and Genealogy for Town X." At a minimum, it should be appropriate to cite this page as a reference to the Misplaced Pages articles on these towns; accordingly, I ask that the CRARG website be removed from Misplaced Pages's blacklist for that purpose. Thanks again for your help, and for your efforts in upholding Misplaced Pages's policies. JeffWexler (talk) 15:20, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit warring at Signature in the Cell

It looks like you've been around the block enough that I don't need to leave the template about the three revert rule here. It looks like there's an edit war you're a party to at Signature in the Cell. It's time to take the issue to the talk page; if a third opinion or other dispute resolution is needed, go ahead and start on that, but please lay off the reverting. I left a similar message at User talk:Asteckley while reminding him that, by definition, it takes two parties to edit war. —C.Fred (talk) 03:27, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Tom Hatton

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WikiProject Poland

Just to make sure you're aware, there's a WikiProject Poland. You should put it on your watchlist and of course any contributions/suggestions there would be much appreciated.Volunteer Marek (talk) 04:11, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Are you a Catholic?

Are you sure you are American, for your entries and constant vandalizing of my entries on Sudetenland and other themes, are beyond your field of science. It is not wiki policy to refer to every year or word or name chosen, if there is an original source for this. This is the same of the Eger imperial free city. It seems you pursue an anti-German goal here. I am merely removing highly POV Polish additions and things written in bad English.Smith2006 (talk) 09:29, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Maybe, if you look undernearth your cellar in Polish-annexed Breslau, you may find the massacred German original owners buried in concrete by the Urząd Bezpieczeństwa or UB.Smith2006 (talk) 09:31, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Brand page: Would you like to help?

Hi Dominus, I think the next stage of developing the Leonard R. Brand page will be an examination of his being notable as a person BIO rather than an academic WP:PROF. Would you like to help? With Hrafn taking a break, we are going to need some critical input. I have also asked User:Hunter Kahn if he can help. (He has provided input before. His user page says he's taking a break. Hunter has an excellent editorial record.) You have also been involved in the past. We could use your help, if you have the time. Thanks. DonaldRichardSands (talk) 23:16, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Question removed

I'm just letting you know that I removed this ref desk question that you had replied to, in case you like to be notified in such cases. I explained the removal on the talk page. Red Act (talk) 11:44, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

Cerejota 05:42, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

A beer for you!

I am a student teacher, living in Free State, South Africa, and I would really like to keep in touch with a proffessional teacher from overseas to help me with some teaching techniques, and how to handle certain classroom situatios. Thank you in advance, and by the way, I am an English-Student-Teacher As i function (talk) 08:39, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Feel free to contact me either on my talk page wih any questions you may have. I'd be all too happy to help if I can. If you have Skype, you can also message me at leonex666 Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 08:46, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Article on Swami Budhpuri Ji rewritten

Hi Dominus, this article that is being considered for deletion, for several reasons (as you are well aware of), has been rewritten. Kindly review and suggest improvements. You will find it here http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Swami_Budhpuri_Ji/Temp....thanks.Svechu (talk) 08:30, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi Dominus. I am glad for your interest in the issues surrounding the deletion of this article. Would you please advise me what next could I do, for as you must be aware the article has been deleted, and I believe that the rewrite of which was given no weight in the deletion (at least there are no reasons stated explicitly for the same). Anyways, I have requested admin TP, to provide some reason why the rewrite on the talk page was not considered as a valid entry to wikipedia. But your guidance would be highly appreciated, for as you can judge, this user is relatively new to Misplaced Pages. ThanksSvechu (talk) 13:40, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Dominus, thank you very much for your clear message. I'll try to understand the various things you suggested, and would get back to you for further clarifications.Svechu (talk) 18:35, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

A beer for you!

I live in a country where our past history has left behind some horrible side effects, and more especially on our educational systems. My concern lies on the many students who fail between grades 8 to 12, there are many our-aged students, who tend to become rebelious toward teachers whom are young. how can one handle this sort of behaviour, and still avoid cussing, yelling andor any sort of violence? As i function (talk) 07:22, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Need more detail at RfC

Can you add more detail to the RfC at Astrology. A few editors have commented that they would like to reply, but need more specificity. Thanks. --Noleander (talk) 09:58, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Proposed edit for Astrology

I am making all recent contributors to the Astrology article and its discussion page aware of a proposed amendment to the text which discusses the 1976 'Objections to astrology' and the relevance of Carl Sagan's reaction. This is in response to the comments, criticisms and suggestions that have been made on the published text, with the hope of finding a solution acceptable to all. Your opinion would be very welcome.

The proposal is here.

Thanks, -- Zac Δ 14:37, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Presentation at 10th Anniversary of Polish Misplaced Pages

It's a pity you didn't come to Poznań to celebrate the 10th anniversary of Misplaced Pages. As you can see in the anniveresary conference programme, I had an oral presentation there about the positive and negative effects of Misplaced Pages on translators. I can send the slides to you by e-mail if you wish. Among the various problems, I mentioned also "voivodeships". The conference participants now uderstand the problem and I hope that together we can finally solve it, for the benefit of the people who use Misplaced Pages or read translations from Polish or listen to Polish interpreters. Sylwia Ufnalska (talk) 11:10, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

You can also listen to my presentation. Niestety na sucho, bez slajdów. Aha, nota bene: Michał Boym żył w XVII w. i napisał Flora Sinica - pierwsze wiarygodne zachodnie dzieło o przyrodzie Chin (po pół-baśniowych opowieściach Marco Polo). Sylwia Ufnalska (talk) 11:27, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Neckbrace

I suspect the new account User:Neckbrace on the astrology article is a sockpuppet, but I'm not certain of the master account. Note his first two edits served to trivially bluelink his user and talk pages, which often is not a good sign. Any thoughts? Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 03:25, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Astrology

Stop being a troll and use the talk page. Skeptics, I swear… --Ludwigs2 13:26, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Zoosexuality

What about this as a sexual orientation? You want to support its inclusion at the Sexual orientation article? Homosexuals and zoosexuals, in the same boat. You can come in and comment on the talk page. 120.203.215.11 (talk) 01:11, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

best practices

you'd best discuss this revert in talk. --Ludwigs2 16:43, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

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Insinuations on Sexual preference talk page

"Pretty much a moot question since, according to the reliable sources we have, only a handful of experts in the relavent field consider either "zoosexuality" or pedophilia to be sexual orientations in the same sense as homesexuality or heterosexuality. They obviously don't find that classification useful. Pretty much the ONLY people out there who do are a few pedophiles who want to equate pedophila with homosexuality in order to gain acceptance, or masses of religious fanatics that want to equate homosexuality with pedophialia in order to condemn it."

I resent the implied insult. Information should not be censored because someone may abuse it. That article is pretty much a reflection of political ideas rather than an encyclopedic overview of the topic. Since ICD 10 defines paedophilia as a disorder of sexual preference, it must be included in an article on that subject, and given more prominence than some fringe idea about the auditory system's role in homosexuality.

enwiki is degenerating into a propaganda tool where facts are subordinate to ideology. Dictated by populism, the strength of interest groups, and the doctrine of skepticism.

Take astrology for example, the only mention of it on Galileo's page is: "His multiple interests included the study of astrology, which at the time was a discipline tied to the studies of mathematics and astronomy." There are horoscopes preserved that he made, there is sufficient evidence that this was not merely a scientific discipline. (example)

I don't advocate anything but the facts and the science, whether or not they are embarrassing sometimes and do not fit with the message we like to put across. I've always been skeptical about pseudo-science, but now this skeptics movement has made it into an ideology, and everything's fair to spread the word, often by people who've never picked up a science book in their life. On almost any page that has to do with pseudo-science, I see people being selective with the facts, just so the "believers" wouldn't have any argument they could use.

And on a side note, I don't care much if astrology, ghosts, tea leaves reading articles or whatever contain too much "believers" stuff. No one will be convinced either way by reading wikipedia. It worries me much more that I can't trust any article about anthropology or archaeology on wiki. Looking for important publications in the period 1990–1999 in anthropology? Right... And after checking one "study" used as source in the sexism article, I've given up on psychology. How long before taxonomy becomes politicised? I had a look at the article, I can't f*** believe it! And the only section tagged as well!?!!

gonna watch Jon Stewart doing his Glenn Beck routine to calm down. DS Belgium (talk) 23:51, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Few or no other edits template

Hey Dom, I would be cautious about using that template outside of the RFC as it could lead to accusations of bad faith, and thus drama. Nformation 18:57, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Homosexuality

Hey Dom, I don't know how knowledgeable you are regarding gender issues, but I've seen you do some work on homosexuality so I thought you might be able to help with something. Currently the lede mentions sex and gender as relating to homosexuality and there is a discussion regarding the topic on the talk page (currently thread #3). I'm going to do some research to see if I can find a better source than what is being used, but I'm curious if you have any knowledge of the subject that might add something to the discussion. Nformation 00:42, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Correction

Hi, DV... I just read your comment here. You attributed a quote to me when that quote is actually from Elinruby. Just a clarification, although I doubt it influences your overall opinion -- might confuse other readers though. Regards, Xenophrenic (talk) 02:09, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I've redacted my comment accordingly. Good luck! Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 02:15, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Some Civility Please

The tone of your comments on the Astrology Talk talk page is not conducive to a spirit of collaborative editing and I believe this has intimidated editors into leaving the page in the past. For example, after misquoting Jimmy Wales here, which is a simple error, you used his subsequent (corrected) quote to justify your remark: "Which doesn't change the fact that Correlation is worth less than used ass-wipe ..." Now this is a description of a Journal of which the editor (as a new WP editor) has contributed to this debate on Jimbo Wales's Talk page, as you will know since you were part of the thread. Your offensive description was way out of line with the tone and implication of Jimmy Wales's comment and it's not right abusing his remarks in this way. I consider it tasteless invective, unnecessary, profane and disrespectful. WP:NAM WP:EQ WP:CIVIL The reason I am commenting here is that after I had asked you to reconsider these comments on the talk page, you shamelessly reiterated them and I don't want to devote more space to this on the main talk page. Robert Currey talk 23:13, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Please watch the offensive remarks

I just made a comment on the astrology talk page asking you to cease the insulting remarks that are not directly relevant to the content of article. I have been direct because I suspect you were being deliberately provocative. I have informed you before that I don’t enjoy having to search for any sensible comment you might make from the surrounding baggage of insulting remarks. Perhaps I should have been clearer that I find your remarks offensive. Why the zealous crusade anyway? We are only reporting on a subject; none of us are responsible for its existence or influence. Sometimes it helps if you don't post spontaneously, but wait a little until the desire to be provocative has passed. If your point is a good one it will hold up without insults -- Zac Δ 00:02, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Spartacus

Would you mind reverting the last edit there? I'm at three reverts, and the anon is basing his edits off of misrepresentative statements about me, the consensus in the article, and WP:ERA. Thanks. Ian.thomson (talk) 18:58, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Ian, this is not acceptable and you know it. 94.194.34.10 (talk) 19:00, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

And you canvassing is acceptable? Ian.thomson (talk) 19:09, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

So two wrongs make a right by default? And that isn't canvassing. He made the original grievance, and would help with your debate. You seem to take all this very personally, what exactly are you taking to heart? We're just trying to sort out a problem. It's not a game. 94.194.34.10 (talk) 19:12, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

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