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I don't care whether his mother or grandmother was Serbian, Greek or whatever else, but a) you are vital parts of the article apart from the word '''Serbian''' that you dislike and b) it is from EB 1911, you can see it , if you don't believe that the above text is correct. Perhaps you should consider that Scanderbeg sided any Christians he could and that includes Serbians too. <small>]</small> ] 14:42, 28 March 2006 (UTC) I don't care whether his mother or grandmother was Serbian, Greek or whatever else, but a) you are vital parts of the article apart from the word '''Serbian''' that you dislike and b) it is from EB 1911, you can see it , if you don't believe that the above text is correct. Perhaps you should consider that Scanderbeg sided any Christians he could and that includes Serbians too. <small>]</small> ] 14:42, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

== Italy ==
I've removed the phrase "Skanderbeg's 25-year resistance against the Ottoman Empire succeeded in helping protect the Italian peninsula from invasion by the Ottoman Turks {{fact}}."

In 1480, the Sultan invaded Italy and Rhodes, and he was repulsed. <small>]</small> ] 09:20, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

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my latest edit

One editor added the signature "INFO (By Andi VL)", other editors removed the last paragraphs of the article - I don't know what to say. I did those edits and I 'll might add some stuff later. talk to +MATIA 09:42, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

the text from 1911

SCANDERBEG, or ISKENDER BEY (1403-1467), known also as the Dragon of Albania, the national hero of the Albanians, was the son of John (Giovanni) Castriota, lord of Kroia and of the Mirdite country in northern Albania, and of a Servian princess named Vaisava. His actual name was George (Giorgio) Castriota, and the name of Iskender Bey (Prince Alexander) was given to him by the Turks in complimentary reference to Alexander the Great. In 1423, when Murad II invaded Epirus, George Castriota, with his three brothers, was handed over as a hostage to the Turks and sent to be trained in the service of the seraglio. His brilliant qualities of mind and body at once gained him the favor of the sultan; he became a Mussulman, was promoted to high military command and, though barely nineteen years of age, to the government of a sanjak. He remained in the Ottoman service for twenty years, dissembling his resentment when, on the death of his father, his principality was annexed and his brothers poisoned. In 1443, however, his opportunity came with Janos Hunyadis victory at Nish. He seized Kroia by stratagem, proclaimed himself a Christian, and gathered the wild Albanian clansmen about him. In the inaccessible fastnesses of Albania he maintained a guerilla warfare against the Turks during nearly twenty-five years, easily routing the armies sent against him, and is said to have slain three thousand Turks with his own hand. In 1461 Murads successor Mahommed II. acknowledged him by a temporary truce as lord of Albania and Epirus. He died in 1467 at Alessio, and his tomb was long the object of a superstitious veneration on the part of the Turks.

Scanderbegs resistance to the Turkish advance was invaluable to the cause of Christianity, but the union which he had maintained in Albania did not survive him. He was succeeded in Kroia by his son, Giovanni Castriota, who in 1474 sold the principality to the Venetians, by whom four years later it was re-sold to the Turks.

See Georges T. Petrovitch, Scander-beg (Georges Castriota); Essai de bibliographie raisonnee; Ouvrages sur Scander-beg crits en langues francaise, anglaise, allemande, latine, italienne, &c. (Paris, 1881); Pisko, Skanderbeg, historische Studie (Vienna, 1895). talk to +MATIA 09:55, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

The New Student's Reference Work

Scanderbeg. (Iskander Beg or Bey), an Albanian chieftain, was born in Albania, about 1403, of Servian parents. He was called George Castriota by the Christians. He was carried away by the Turks when seven, and brought up a Mohammedan. His bravery and skill made him a favorite with the sultan, who put him in command of a division of his army. In 1443 he deserted the Turkish army with 300 Albanians, and renounced Mohammedanism. In less than a month the whole of Albania was in arms, Scanderbeg was chosen chief, and the Turkish garrisons driven out of the country He was defeated by the Turks but once in all the struggles that followed, destroying 40,000 Turks, with 15,000 Albanians, and defying the Sultan himself with his army of 150,000, until he retired disgusted from the conflict. Pope Pius II tried in vain to league the Christian princes together to help Scanderbeg in his conflicts with the Turks, but succeeded in inducing him to break a truce of peace, made in 1461, and renew the war alone. He again defeated every force that attacked him, even driving back Mohammed II, the conqueror of Constantinople, who conducted two campaigns against him in person. Scanderbeg died at Alessio, of malarial fever, Jan. 17 5468. Consult Ludlow's Captain of the Janizaries.

From wikisource talk to +MATIA 08:18, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

To Albanau

I don't care whether his mother or grandmother was Serbian, Greek or whatever else, but a) you are removing vital parts of the article apart from the word Serbian that you dislike and b) it is from EB 1911, you can see it scanned at wikisource, if you don't believe that the above text is correct. Perhaps you should consider that Scanderbeg sided any Christians he could and that includes Serbians too. talk to +MATIA 14:42, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Italy

I've removed the phrase "Skanderbeg's 25-year resistance against the Ottoman Empire succeeded in helping protect the Italian peninsula from invasion by the Ottoman Turks ."

In 1480, the Sultan invaded Italy and Rhodes, and he was repulsed. talk to +MATIA 09:20, 31 March 2006 (UTC)