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Hello, Reaper7, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Ha - I beat Niko to it ;-) --Latinus 22:43, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey you *&^#*" Latinus!! Anyway, I knew this was coming. Welcome! Just don't forget to add your signature (those four "~")in the end of whatever you write. Also, place smthng in your userpage, so that your name doesn't appear red...  NikoSilver   22:48, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Tsiartas

Saw your first article. Congrats! I'll make a few minor corrections, if you don't mind.

Milas ka8olou Ellhnika?  NikoSilver   09:45, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Nai, O papous etan apo Leonidio kai hope you like the article and you are welcome to edit file. Reaper7 10:35, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Bravo. An milas kala, mporoume na grafoume ellhnika o enas ston allo (ki an exeis kai ellhnikous xarakthres akoma kalytera). Article corrections done. Check 'em out here. You are very close to perfection! Look carefully at the minor changes I made for your future articles. I'll have someone check whether we can remove the annoying tag ontop of the article (already done while editing this message, without my notification, see article talk). Click edit to see the code of this message too (as an additional tool for future articles/talks). Again, congratulations!  NikoSilver   10:59, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and I shouldn't have forgotten to award you! You can copy this award on your user page (along with other information about yourself) and be proud of it! Congratulations!  NikoSilver   15:22, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Awards and stuff

Awards should be given carefully NikoSilver, otherwise they loose their meaning. You're very fast to award user Reaper for only one article, but you didn't even criticize him for calling me a fool and an idiot. Instead you advised him how he can continue using insulting words and get away with it. Very noble of you! Back to the rewards - I noticed that some users exchange awards as if they were baseball cards (It reminds me to Greece exchanging 12 points with Cyprus on Eurosong EVERY YEAR). You can do it if you like it, but you can guess how the others see it. Just my 2cent. --Realek 16:47, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

You address to me, Realek, and yet you paste this message in the newbee's talk page. How very thoughtfull of you! Congratulations for your impartiality! Did you even read Vassilis Tsiartas, or compare it with other footballer's biographies? I bet you didn't.

I am also certain that if the user had expressed pro-FYROMian feelings in the talks, it'd be you that would award him a Barnstar, even without any first article at all! And you can be certain of this: I would NOT violate WP:BITE and WP:AGF just to make a silly (here you go!) point in another persons' talkpage!

 NikoSilver   17:04, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

PS By the way, last time I checked all your significant contributions I didn't see any bolded N (standing for New Article, if you don't even know what that is).

PS2 What does "I strongly advise you to refrain from using bad language towards other users." mean? Is it an ecouragement to swear to you? Did you even notice that he said "Sorry to offend anyone"?  NikoSilver   17:04, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't just give away awards, because they are ment to be earned - not exchanged between greek users. I could have given away and received a lot of meaningless awards (there are a lot of Macedonians here, but I guess we don't do that. Anyway, my N articles are in the Macedonian Misplaced Pages. Here on the English I'm forced to fight FOGOPian vandalism all the time. Finaly lets look at your advice to Reaper to refrain from using bad language. You only advised him that to aviod blocking. You didn't say he was wrong to do it. Instead you advised him how he can use "softer" insults and get away with it. And please dont preach me about WP:BITE and WP:AGF. I felt you breaking them on my own skin so many times. --Realek 20:34, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Niko, Efaristo parapoli filemou. Prospayo na milo stin Ellhnika ya sena. Tora tha vlepo ya to fotografias apo Tsiartas ya to article Xoris to copywright. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Reaper7 (talk • contribs)

Just watch and learn in what context you may use the word "silly", Reaper7. It seems, you'll need it more than I originally thought.  NikoSilver   19:03, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Vassilis Tsiartas

What are you trying to do now in the article? I am online, I can help. Ask me...  NikoSilver   21:27, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

All done, what do you think filemou? Got the image from a friend and a great one I think!Reaper7 21:53, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Good job, for the most part. Let me give you a few additional hints:

• Remove the copyright logo from the text of the image in the article. People may misinterpret it.
• The guideline for pics is to crop them on the main subject. Do that next time with an image editor before you upload one.
• Be absolutely certain on the copyright status of your image. Otherwise, wikipedia will delete it to save you (and itself) from copyright trouble.
• When you want to indent your comments do not use tab, or spaces. Instead, place ":" (or "::" or ":::" etc) before the first word. If you use space(s) or tab(s) you get the following result (which I corrected in your comment above):

There's a space before this comment!

• Use the "Show Preview" button to be sure that your changes are immaculate before you press save. That way, you (and other users) will be able to view a clearer history of the article (click it for Tsiartas').
• Use "history" (top of article tab) to view changes of other users in your articles. Press "diff" to see the changes.
• Change your prefs (top right) to "watch" all pages you edit (very practical).
• Use a star ("*") before sentences to create this bullet effect.
  • Use two stars ("**") for this one! (and so on, as with the ":")
• Press "edit" in my comments (or wherever you want) to see the code of anything you are interested in reproducing.
• Use three apostrophies for bold text. Two for italics. Five for bold italics.
• Draw lines seldomly (almost never). You only need four "-" to draw one line, the rest are redundant.

I'll give you more hints later sometime, BUT, RTFM, as Latinus suggested in his Welcome message above!! (click to find out what that means)

O filos sou,  NikoSilver   22:29, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

FYROM or Republic of Macedonia

After extensive edit warring, article protection, and the statement of the extended version supporting side regarding both the name of the article, and the intro paragraph, a poll has been placed. The brief version supporting side is to keep the name of the article AND the intro paragraph free of the UN name (FYROM). Keep in mind that you can select more than one of the options (8! to the moment) that may suit you. Please participate in the vote and ask other editors you know to do so too. Increased participation can make the outcome of the vote as NPOV as possible.  NikoSilver  16:43, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Σχετικά με το παραπάνω, πρέπει να δεις αυτό το σχόλιο και να πράξεις αναλόγως. Άμεσα.  NikoSilver  16:43, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Man I can't see any poll yet, just debate...Reaper7 17:40, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Here: Poll. Edit the options you like (it is advisable to check more than one) and paste the following line under the last vote:

# Place here a brief comment. ~~~~

i.e., put a # so that it is autonumbered, then place a brief comment with a reason for supporting this option, and then use four tildes to sign and date. Ok?  NikoSilver  18:50, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Done Reaper7 19:16, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Look, the way this vote is set up, the votes of the supporting side are split between multiple options. Check again.  NikoSilver  19:34, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Reaper nomizw kalytera na ebgazes ta sxolia sou gia tous amerikanous giati den eksyphretoun sth syzhthsh me tous geitones.--Avg 14:33, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

I suspect I know greek beter than him even if you use latinic. Anyway I doubt you will persuade him anything. --Realek 14:49, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

I suspect you know less Greek than an Albanian having such a pure slav language as you have. Even if he wrote it in ancient macedonian you still wouldn't be able to read it - your slavic race came down into the Balkans 1000 years to late, sorry. Reaper7 14:58, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Apisteyth h ataka sou sto tok :-)... --Avg 17:06, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Ti enei 'sto tok' file, lol? the milo elliniki poli kala.> Reaper7 23:07, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Ai gess it's haou you'd rait "talk" if the Inglish alphabet ouasn't touisted. LMTO  NikoSilver  23:16, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the laugh

You wrote: "How about: 'I can't believe it's not Macedonia'"

That made me laugh out loud (and almost spill my drink). Thanks :) EuroSong 00:56, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

This is exactly what I was referring to above.--Avg 11:21, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

LOL, I seriously think that is the best name for the state abbreviated to 'ICBIN Macedonia' Reaper7 12:13, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

sorry to everybody, but that one really made me laugh. User:Politis.

Niko, been blocked from making any editing on your user talk because someone called testi 321 or something vandalised on my IP???(I am going mad with this), also why has mine and other votes on option#4 on the poll been deleted, the option with more deleted votes by pluribus than any other. Mine survived for like 8 days while others around me got removed than finally mine and some others got removed today for Suffrage!!! What is the point of asking me and others to vote is they are all deleted? And the other options are protected?? Reaper7 21:57, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

One by one:

1) Vote: sorry, my fault. I shouldn't have asked you in the first place, because it clearly states that nobody can participate if he hasn't been around earlier than March 1st. I had no idea, but should have read the rules before I invited you. (you know I don't like it more than you do)

2) IP what? who? when? and most important: FOR HOW LONG?

You can go and use another PC somewhere if you want and if you remember your password.

Thank God I am "watching" this page, or I wouldn't see your message. Continue talk below.

 NikoSilver  22:57, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Got this when I tried to post on ure user talk:

[[Image: Your user name or IP address has been blocked from editing. You were blocked by Curps for the following reason (see our blocking policy): "Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Tud123". The reason given for Tud123's block is: "vandalism"." Your IP address is 195.93.21.105.]]

I can not believe it and thankgod u r watching this page file! LOL Reaper7 00:00, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Then I go to this Tudi123 character's page and see this!!

Your user name or IP address has been blocked from editing.

You were blocked by Curps for the following reason (see our blocking policy): "Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Tud123". The reason given for Tud123's block is: "vandalism"." Your IP address is 195.93.21.6.

SO apparently i have 2 different IPs///even thought i have only ever used the same comp??? I think someone is fu cking with me. Reaper7 02:34, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Also note to Avg -

Man that diagram was pure, i reposted at the bottom to rub it in and cause distress to those who are living in a dream. Man i also i londoner re Nottin hill, (Olympiakos before u ask)in the words of Darkwan in Ninja Scroll - Lets be friends! lol, we need all the comrads we can get - c u around! Reaper7 02:34, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I have to say, you have definitely done your research! I had seen this DNA rubbish they had produced all over this place and I was searching for a credible source to debunk it. You've found it. Now about the teams, well you got me in a bad day, haven't you:-) I was planning my trip to Prague and this bloody Tau spoiled it! Good luck for tomorrow though!--Avg 01:44, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

It was sad we got damaged (again by an isreali team) but we have probably got the cup and league already this season and I can't wait for next season in the CL with Ne Toure Stolt and Rivaldo and maybe another star we have yet to see! Also why is there no Castillo on the OSFP page on here??Reaper7 13:47, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Diagram

Man, I try to be as Neutral as possible, otherwise nobody will agree. Furthermore, the "fewer" thing was in the previous sketch too. Indeed the countries ARE fewer (I think the FYROM side claims 112 vs 45). I don't want to put "rest of the world" there. I'd also suggest you totally remove your comment so that the sketch remains at the bottom (to... rub it in better). Let THEM disagree. Not us.  NikoSilver  11:32, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Did I forget to thank you for cooperating? Well here goes: THANKS REAPER!!!  NikoSilver  10:46, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Ti mas kanei h Ellada...

You should have become a diplomat, like Seferis, then your motto might have been: Όπου και να ταξιδέψω η Ελλάδα με πληρώνει... ;-) Politis 17:31, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Or maybe a Slavo Mac diplomat, unlike Seferis, then my motto might have been: Όπου και να ταξιδέψω, that F****ing dropped Fyrom HLA DRB1 paper wounds me..' Reaper7 21:33, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Talk page edits

Article talk pages are for discussing how to improve the article, not for arguments about the subject of an article. Edits designed to "cause distress" (your words) or antagonize people of a particular nationality are simply not OK. They violate Misplaced Pages policy and I invite you to stop now. Jonathunder 23:18, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

- Will do, I thought it was important in educating members but I can see your point, I will refrain from commenting on the situation as i have done any further. However, I can't remember writing the words 'cause distress' and indeed have no aim to do so and doubt I have. Also I was not argueing with anyone, so that comment was lost on me too. I wonder slightly if you even understand the politics involved as I don't see how my post could in your words 'cause distress'. I was talking politics and why Greeks have been the victims of FYROM politics inorder to influence neutrals who know nothing but still comment on one side as there are a few.Reaper7 23:27, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I appologise however if the following statement distressed or deeply wounded(seferis) anyone:

Feeling sorry about Slavs To claim someone's history, symbols and culture is bad enough, but ask yourself why they have to do it - the answer to that question gives me sympathy for them. Archimedes was born in Sicily, do you hear any Italians claiming him as Italian? LOL, of course not. Other Greeks have been born around the world but stayed Greek and encouraged Greek culture, non more than Alexander the Great who spread Hellenism across the known world at the time. That is called background Politis - little lesson for you, if some slavs who came down in the 5th Century AD want to take this history - it is going to take more than 2 liberals and 20 slavs to change it on this site. Even if the UN, EU, Nato, all organisations did not agree with Greece - we would still fight. If they claimed to be the spiritual descendants of Alexander fine, let them have everything. This little American puppet state let me tell our viewers has claimed Greeks to be Africans in DNA tests, have said Greeks are not in anyway responsible for the Macedonian empire of the 3rd Century BC but only them - a bunch of Bulgarian Slavs who came down in the 5th Century AD and after. I say let them have their day in the sun, many on here have not even heard the Greek side or aknowledged the horrors of what their state claims about Greeks, a race that has given more to the world then any other. When this issue is ressolved, those who built this page or encouraged it who are non slavs will scratch their heads or maybe read for once in their lives and see what this state was claiming - they were never going to get away with the biggest cultural fraud of the century since Hitler claimed his race were the true descendants of the Arians. The FYROMs have also tried to prove their case through DNA (like the Nazis)accusing the Greek people of being closely related to Africans not connected to Macedonia and them ofcourse...direct descendants of Alexander the Great's people themselves, I know this is hard to believe for someone not from Greece or the Baklans but this was actually the country's most famous recent propaganda (look at the names of the researchers..no bets on which little state they are from): http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=11260506&dopt=Abstract

Luckily this paper was laughed out of the academic community due to the fact the gene they were looking at had nothing to do with descent - according to them the Japanese are also more african then modern Syrians, LOL: http://www.nature.com/cgi-taf/DynaPage.taf?file=/nature/journal/v415/n6868/full/415115b_r.html

and Greece could only sit back and laugh at the audacity of the attempted pure race and eugenics card used on them ala Nazis propaganda. Now we have liberals on this site who think Greece is an old Monster, lol, but have not even attempted to research the dispute which is very clear with huge assumptions declared. Greece has been the victim in history many times and now is the case far more than this small band of slavs everyone is confused at including the Bulgarians who see them as confused Bulgarians paradoxically. I feel sorry for them. Their culture and modern state is built on denying who Greeks claim to be and then inserting themselves in the hole conviently created.Reaper7 21:23, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Attention Ola Tous Romios

especially Nik and Avg. Here is a site that I think you should join, it has all the information you need in dispelling the Skopian propaganda on this site, I suggest you make it a favorite, there are many clever studious people on there and even if you cannot add anything, it useful because of the huge amount of weaponary posted there.

http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/forum/

Reaper7 13:44, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Geia, elpizo aftos o Dr Manos na min ehi kapia schesi me esena. Afto apagorevete apo tus kanonismos. Telex 23:08, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Category Deletion

Please visit and weigh in!  NikoSilver  18:07, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

POLL

No, no, no, not what you think! This time is for something that all of us need:

Improvement of the <ref> function.

Please weigh in at Misplaced Pages talk:Footnotes#Poll! NikoSilver  18:13, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: question about economic growth during Greek junta

Indeed it was high, but not unlike most of the period between 1953 and 1974. Actually, the highest rates in the 20th century must have been achieved during the 1950s averaging about 10%. I think it was in 1956 when it peaked at 13%. Skartsis

Thanks, can you make sure the section is not hijacked by the socialists, thanks # Reaper7  

and another Poll...

Hi. There's a debate about how much "X-ian" one must be in order to be considered "X-American" (or X-Yian for that matter) and be categorized as such. The poll is here: Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Ethnic groups/Rules for lists of X-Americans. Kindly weigh in! :NikoSilver: 22:02, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Macedonia (terminology)

Well, that'll be the first article we're not bitching too much about! :-) :NikoSilver: 22:19, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Way to much Israeli Proganda

Israeli reports can not be trusted as has been demonstrated by thier claims and high censorship levels.

Do you not know that Israel claims Hezbollah did it and that the UN Secretary-General is racist? By the way the Israeli foreign ministry has asked for volunteers to serf the net and launch a cmpaign to protect Israel. Here is the link.

http://uruknet.info/?p=m25177&hd=0&size=1&l=e

read this on by Misplaced Pages has an unusually large amount of vandalizing editors deleting facts that are incriminating for Israel...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2289232,00.html

this site is filled with evivence http://angryarab.blogspot.com/

These are false statements!

Hello, i offer my help!

Hello Reaper7, how are you?, i was navigating thru the users comments in the lebanon conflict because there was a huge lock over the article(and that called my attention) there i noticed that you have been participating a lot to improve the article with your comments and edits. I could give you a medal for that edits... =) If you need help in a kind of article you are working in, i can help you. i have a speedy conecction and many, many books. Whats are the topics you like to edit??? Talk to me , please at least in this page because i dont have an account at wikipedia. I used to have put many people insulted me (Щиукшлщ ыщслзгззуеы фтв щерукы) and i abandoned it. well bye!!!

Unfortunately the israelis are awake 24 hours a day changing facts to make the illegal war seem less dangerous. I almost give up. Where are you from? Reaper7 03:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I am from Peru and i use different IP when editing wikipedia. It is not Suckpuppeting, because the corporation providing internet use new and random IP from Peru.

--201.230.149.165 01:19, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Vote here friend:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:2006_Israel-Lebanon_conflict#Lebanese_Civilian_Casualties

Reaper7 17:50, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

What animes do you watch??

What animes do you wacth and what retro games???

--201.230.149.165 01:21, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Series: Elfen lied, Full metal Alchemist, Cyber city, ect ect

Films:

Ghost in the shell I, II, Ninja Scroll, Perfect Blue, Akira, Animatrix, Vampire Hunter D ect ect

Retro games, Soul Calibur, cloud master, Worms, Virtual Rally, Gunbird 2, R-Type, anything master system, mega drive..

Reaper7 17:46, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Byzantine flag, eh?

Since when are the stars, the moon and other astronomical creations the property of one nation or empire??? Quote: "As far as I'm aware the crescent and star combination has a heritage directly linked to the Babylonian cult of Inana (who if I'm not mistaken was usually depicted as crowned with the crescent and star combination) - and with the numerous other equivalent female fertility cults of near eastern antiquity (e.g., the cult of Isis). Its subsequent adoption as an Islamic symbol is similar to the Christian appropriation of pagan symbolism elsewhere (e.g., the various European "Black Madonnas"), and is testament to the persistence of ancient systems of belief into late antiquity and early modern times." How about that for a theory? So let's stop this effort to appropriate everything in Turkey to Greeks and Byzantines.. Now that you mentioned it, maybe I should go to the Byzantium article and mention this.. Baristarim 22:37, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

NO obviously you are confused severely, what I am saying, is that it is a little more than a coincidence to anyone with 20% of a brain the fact that the flag of byzantium at the time of its fall to the Turks was a moon and star, this should not be grouped in the theories section like Attaturk's dreams, LOL. But please - what I posted was obviously not for you, don't care if the Byzantiums got it off the Eygptians who got it off Martians - that is not the point, it was the flag of Byzantium and that is fact and that is where the Turks aquired it, and it is a little more than a 'theory' to a non Asiaitic Turk. Reaper7 22:55, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

No, not neccessarily.. It didnt originate from the Byzantines , so it is quite possible that Turks got it from the other peoples of the Middle East and Persia before - please see this .. It explicitly states that this symbol has been assumed as being transferred via battles, but the true origin is the cultural movements of the Middle East.. Seljuq Turks and other Muslim Turkic tribes used this symbol on various occasions before the fall of Constantinople.. OTOH, I agree that there are certain legends mentioned in that page, and they should be clearly labelled as such.. Baristarim 23:09, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

I have changed the structure of the page with regards to the origins of the crescent moon and star.. Take a look and tell me what u think.. Baristarim 23:27, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

The word legends is wrong, this was the Byzantium flag whether it was given by God or originated in 9000BC, when the Turks came, that was the flag of the city they conquered - not the flag they came with, it is not a legend, King Authur is a legend - elves and fairies are legends, not the moon and star of byzantium that the turks saw flying on the city walls when they took the city. Reaper7 19:25, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Don't listen to the turk, he has been propounding the 'sun theory of languages' (Ataturks famous dreams!) over on the language pages :D :D :D

It is not nationalism, and I was the one who sourced the Babylon and Isis origins. Listen, this has nothing to do with nationalism or anything, I changed the section title to "Theories and legends". I agree that the dreams are legends, however the Byzantium bit is a theory as well, and your pushing it of as absolute truth is also POV - considering that crescent and star has been a Mesopotamian symbol for thousands of years (Isis and Babylon existed much earlier before the Macedonian invasions, sorry!). The correct place for that theory is under the theories and legends section, not under a section of its own.. And yes, the Turkic migrations bit is very relevant, since the article is about the flag of Turkey. Cheers! Baristarim 03:04, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey friend

I noticed you say Athens is soon going to have a very big public park, I heard about this too, could you give me links? (preferably in english - but i dont mind spending a bit more time to read it in greek) So i can reada bout it.

Give me some days, there is not much in English because as you know in Greece, it takes years for details to be decided. However if it is done it will easily be the biggest metropolitan park in Europe as it is the site of the old airport known as hellenikon which streches along a large section of the athens coast. Here is a winning prize for the design, hopefully they do not take too much of the park for housing which is being debated:

http://www.uia-architectes.org/texte/france/Hellenikon/05/02.html

http://architettura.supereva.com/architetture/20050514/index.htm

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Anti-Hellenism

I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article Anti-Hellenism, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Misplaced Pages is not" and Misplaced Pages's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Misplaced Pages, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at its talk page. Removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, but the article may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. Guy Montag 06:05, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey Reaper

Nice article this Ergotelis FC! I had no idea about the Junta thing and OFI! Do you have a citation for that? I'd love to read the spicy details! Keep up the good work! NikoSilver 23:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Also, I'm curious: How do the Cretans call Dragan Nacevski? And what happens when they play in Salonika or Kavala etc? NikoSilver 23:09, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Well Kerkyra FC have on loan a player called vance sikov who is now owned by Olympiakos and before that belonged to Xanthi FC, also Egaleo FC have a defender Goran Popov, another FYROMian. To be honest all these players act professional and never mention politics, so all the fans leave them alone. As for the Junta influencing transfers from Ergotelis to OFI Kreta, a fan of OFO told me this, I will ask him if he has any links! Reaper7 02:34, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

chris.pavlakos@gmail.com

3RR

Please be careful about not violating the three-revert rule. Thanks Baristarim 02:54, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

You are destroying the article with your nationalism, the theory is not a legend but as a poor member of wiki you must have it listed under that list. Secondly you are trying to include the turkish migration even though it has nothing to do with the byzantium sub text and is a shallow attemp at a strange form of nationalism it has nothing to do witht he theory, sorry. I am now reporting you just so you have time to form an arguement in your defence.

Reaper7 02:58, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I tried to reorganize the article. I would really appreciate it if you didn't accuse me of nationalism and what else every single time. I haven't written the article, so I am trying to do the best I could. Baristarim 03:43, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Hello

Hi Reaper 7. Thanks for your message. No, I haven't heard anything at all from that user, although I agree with you that he is wrong. You have my full moral support! Timothy Titus 18:30, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Use of talk pages

Greeks in Egypt

• You can contest a proposed deletion (prod, not AfD or speedy delete) yourself simply by removing the prod template. I've done so for you on the Greeks in Egypt article. I warn you though, that article strikes me as an attempt to push an agenda and so probably violates WP:NPOV. I will check back in a few days to see if any additions have been made. eaolson 14:33, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Gerry McNamara

Gerry McNamara is a new member of Panionios, and I was hoping you could add him to the current roster. Thanks. Chengwes 00:28, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Constantinos Tsakiris

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AfD nomination of Constantinos Tsakiris

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REF IMPROVE TAGS

I noticed you putsome tags in the Elgin marbles article. Now I think these were not correct due to the fact that many points made in the article are common knowledge, but before we get into that, surely you will be kind enough, (since you believe in tagging sections with no references), to tag these in the British Museum just to prove you are no deliberately and with British Bias tagging an article that appears to you to be bias. Here are the sections with no references at all:

http://en.wikipedia.org/British_Museum#The_largest_building_site_in_Europe_.281825-50.29 http://en.wikipedia.org/British_Museum#Department_of_Conservation.2C_Documentation_and_Science http://en.wikipedia.org/British_Museum#Libraries_and_Archives http://en.wikipedia.org/British_Museum#Department_of_Coins_and_Medals http://en.wikipedia.org/British_Museum#Department_of_Prehistory_and_Europe

and the most shocking:

http://en.wikipedia.org/British_Museum#Department_of_Greek_and_Roman_Antiquities

1 reference for 1 item a huge section, can you believe that?

So surely now I have told you and seeing you are familiar with how to tag, I will leave it to you. I await your response eagerly. Reaper7 00:24, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I hadn't looked at or reviewed the British Museum article and yes, I would agree that the refimprove tags should be added to several sections of that article- perhaps that will be my next project. If you feel strongly about them, feel free to add them now (I will not remove them, as I agrre with you), but otherwise I will wait until I get chance to also start working on that article. I don't think it fair to add tags and then just leave the article without working on it. You may have noticed that I havent worked on the Elgin Marbles article for a while, this is because I am busy writing a journal article for my job- which obviously (as it pays the bills) takes precedence.

I would also like to add, since you seem adamant that I am anti-Greek (or something along those lines), that I am far from it. Prior to reading the article on the Elgin Marbles I had no opinion on the subject of their return and knew very little baout their history. Upon reading the article, I couldn't believe that everything was so one sided, so started reading around the subject, and found that in truth it wasn't. Yes, the subject of their return is controversial and I agree that, in an ideal world, the Parthenon would have all its marbles still attached in pristine condition- but we both know that isn't possible. Please stop acussing me of vandalism- I have not vandalised any article on wikipedia- I have only provided a more balanced view- and if you look objectively at my changes, I have made both pro British and pro Greek changes and found reliable references for both points of view. Yes I am British and as such may have inherent bias, as you do towards your own nationality, but I am trying to keep that bias out of the changes to articles. The sole reason most of my changes so far have been pro British is simply that the article was so biased before hand, that that was what was required to balance things up. I would like to start working on the section that describes tha marbles, as that seems to be lacking alot- although this info maybe covered elsewhere on Misplaced Pages.

Thanks again for highlighting the problem of the British Museum article, as I say, that will very likely be the next thing I work on...

Regards D666D 19:03, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Bullied

Stethnel is trying to bully us, we came up with a majority, you completed the edit, he undid it like he undid mine claiming we have no majority. Now he has just split the article himself because.. he makes his own rules?. -- Reaper7 (talk) 19:13, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Reaper, arguing with Sthenel is like arguing with a 3 year old. Frankly, I'd rather not spend my time on Misplaced Pages getting into a pointless edit war over an article for a club I don't even support - I'll leave that to the Olympiacos supporters on Misplaced Pages. I just wanted to see some uniformity across all Greek football articles... Dragases (talk) 14:06, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Ahem...

Was this some kind of botched up attempt at sockpuppeting or what? Enquiring minds might wish to know. Fut.Perf. ☼ 21:50, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

it was actually my girlfriend on the same university computer, i was showing her how AVG was so politically correct defending anyone he feels is being 'personally insulted' like a crusade. I had no idea she had written that afterwards. You can check all my histories, I have been here ages, created many many articles and done many edits, I have never had the need to create two accounts or pretend to be someone else, check. Reaper7 (talk) 12:58, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Then better make sure you log out properly next time you edit from an open computer, and protect your password. Girlfriends and other fellow students can be pretty nasty at times. Oh, and your preceding posting had been a personal attack anyway... Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:46, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the thumbs up. I am so busy that I become easily oblivious--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 20:16, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem, I built a lot of that page, but ran into an englishman and a politically correct Greek - which are basically the same thing, so I gave myself distance to the article because they were trying to create something weird. Now you are here, you have my full support on all efforts. Reaper7 (talk) 22:06, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

A "politically correct" Greek. I guess that's me. Tell that to our northern neighbours who keep calling me an extreme nationalist for ages :-) --   Avg    22:11, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

They call all Greeks who dispute their name this. This has nothing to do with political correctness. Nice to see you watching my page though! Keep the good work up! Reaper7 (talk) 22:23, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Brazilian passport "lies"

You have written on the Brazilian passport talk page that the "Visa-free" section was "telling lies." You did not say that it was incorrect, imprecise or outdated (which, in spite of our efforts, it might well be, like all similar sections in articles about national passports). What you said was that it told lies, and that is a very serious accusation, because it implies malicious intent to deceive readers. As one of the contributors to that article, I would ask you to please state precisely on that article's talk page why you think we are liars. --UrsoBR (talk) 20:52, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Could you please calm down both. Yes, Reaper used a strong word without backing it with sources, which is wrong, but, at the same time, UrsoBR, you also know that it is another thing to say that this is a "lie", and another thing to say that the x person is a "liar". And Reaper did the first; not the second.--Yannismarou (talk) 19:27, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Ancient Macedonian Language

Please take a look at this. The article has been degenerating ever since Future Perfect of Sunrise deleted the infobox, and consequently the ISO-codes due to his POV pushing.

Cheers--Gkeorgke (talk) 02:07, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia 2/Evidence

Regarding your evidence section, at this point it appears to be a lot of arguments/conclusions but little in the way of actual evidence. I suggest taking a look at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration guide#Evidence for a better understanding of what is most effective in convincing the Arbitration Committee. Please let me know if you have any questions. KnightLago (talk) 14:31, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, please don't edit other people's "evidence" sections, as you just did . Mere "support" or "oppose" statements are already pretty useless on the workshop page, but on the evidence page they are definitely disallowed. It's not meant for discussion. – Besides, the section you edited consisted of old "support" votes from elswhere that Tasos was merely quoting, so you totally messed up his evidence. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:22, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Original research warning

Please cease adding original research to Macedonia naming dispute. I'm perfectly willing to write a finding of fact about your use of original research at the Macedonia 2 arbitration case if you persist. -- ChrisO (talk) 13:33, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Well...

...precisely, I'm trying to cleanup the list removing the countries, which contain unclear reference just mentioning Macedonia, RoM or FYROM like the documents you used for verify the Denmark's stance. I recommend the reference Danforth p.151 if you don't want confrontation verifying the Denmark's stance. Der Ausländer: Was willst du mir sagen? 16:55, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia 2

This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above.

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Discuss this

Proposed deletion of Stavros Papadopoulos

The article Stavros Papadopoulos has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

no sources, heavily POV and Peacockish tone, article solely exists for the promotion of the subject.

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{dated prod}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Constantine ✍ 06:56, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Hello! Good, if the article was not about that businessmen, I have no problem with restoring it. However even the football manager has no sources, and his claim to notability, while probably undisputed in Greece, remains be established for an English-language international encyclopedia. If you could find some articles in newspapers that concern him, it'd be great. I only tag articles for deletion in very rare cases, usually when someone is blatantly trying to promote himself, his business or some obscure local businessman/politician/etc. without any notability... I'll remove the PROD following your explanation, but please provide some sourcing and more info as to his origin etc. Otherwise it will probably get deleted either way if it ever gets nominated for WP:AFD... Regards, Constantine ✍ 15:49, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Comment about Macedonia on my talk page

Reaper7,

while I understand that the Macedonia naming dispute is real, I also know that the 2nd Macedonia Arbitration commissioned three referees to find a consensus on the project, which they did. The Committee's remit included careful directions to follow policy, especially on naming conventions, NPOV, RS, and disambiguation.

You've just insinuated that the referees, instead of working from policy, were acting based on the foreign policy of the country where they lived. This flies in the face of the careful statements the referees prepared, and is similar to the behavior you were sanctioned for in ARBMAC2. I would have thought you would be more careful. Jd2718 (talk) 05:53, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

First Macedonia arbitration - warning

This edit may violate several principles from The first Macedonia arbitration: from Principle 1: Use of the site for ... advocacy, propaganda, furtherance of outside conflicts, and political or ideological struggle—is prohibited; from Principle 3: ...Unseemly conduct—including, but not limited to, personal attacks, incivility, assumptions of bad faith...—is prohibited... . I feel obligated to issue a standard ARBMAC warning, which immediately follows Jd2718 (talk) 06:06, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

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