Misplaced Pages

Revision as of 03:25, 4 April 2006

User:Kelly Martin/Vacation

Note: Please do not make requests for the use of CheckUser rights or administrative assistance here unless it's related to a matter I've already engaged in. Requests for checkuser go to WP:RFCU; requests for administrative assistance go to WP:AN. Thank you for your cooperation.

• /Archive1 (December 2004 through April 2005)
• /Archive2 (May 2005)
• /Archive3 (June 2005)
• /Archive4 (July 2005)
• /Archive5 (August 2005)
• /Archive6 (September 2005)
• /Archive7 (October 2005)
• /Archive8 (November 2005)
• /Archive9 (December 2005)
• /Archive10 (January 2006)
• /Archive11 (February 2006)

Note: I may remove comments that are inserted without a section header. Please be nice and create a new section if you want to leave me a comment. If you add to an existing section, I may miss your comment.

Apostrophe Fascist?

How dare you! You're actually prepared to declare that facet of your individuality? I find it quite divisive. (Actually you've managed to write a bio that tells me as little as possible about you. I suppose that was your aim.) Go Habs! Loomis51 03:01, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Good Day Kelly

Hello Kelly Martin, I would like to take this opportunity to share some observations with you. First of all, I am a new user. For several days now, I have been perusing this site and trying to figure out just what to think of it all. I find Misplaced Pages to be fascinating and curious, and unfortunately very political. Now, being a 67 year old retired professor of American history, I am realistic about personal and political ideas being injected into everyday life, however, I have noticed that there are a few admins who seem to bulldoze (trample) over the rights of many users. I notice in your user page, that you had recently resigned from several posts connected with Misplaced Pages management. I am sorry to hear of this, and should like to see more people like yourself participating in the structure of this great experiment. Anyway, before I begin to sound like an old rambling prof from the old days, I wanted to wish you the best, and let you know that I have examined many peoples contributions, and consider yours to be above the rest by many degrees.

Professor ShakeAPudn

Yeah, baby, yeah! Flattery will get you everywhere in this whirld! Professor ShakeYourMoneyMaker

WP:RCU

I am leaving this message to all 10 people at Special/checkuser list. Therefore forgive me for its being impersonal. Please take a look at Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for CheckUser#cleanup needed. Your response and/or actions there would be very much appreciated. Thanks! --Irpen 23:28, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Color

Since you say you're interested in color, you may find this page of interest: lugnet.com color guide ++Lar: t/c 17:32, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Final decision

The arbitration committee has reached a final decision in the Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Tommstein case. Raul654 13:32, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Concerned

I'm a bit concerned over your use of the block function. While anyone can make a mistake, and the thing with Grue turned out alright since the damage was quickly undone, I'm concerned that you don't appear to see that it was a mistake. If this were the first time, I probably wouldn't be leaving a note like this, but I remember questionable blocking behavior happening previously. I wonder if you'd consider not using the block function anymore? Or, if that doesn't seem reasonable, perhaps seek the advice of others, and let someone else do it in cases that you think might be borderline? I'm sure you mean well, but you're only hurting your own reputation (and, frankly, disrupting Misplaced Pages) with an improper block. I know adminship is "no big deal", but IMO it's very important that we don't begin to see blocking of other editors as "no big deal". Friday (talk) 18:32, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Re: RFAr

Brought forward from archive

I'd like to know if my request is getting anywhere. Thanks in advance. — Instantnood 18:02, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Assistance

I've recently created an entire batch of articles here. You are resonably versed in copyeditting, as well as catching my minor grammattical errors and whatnot, so I thought you might want to go through them. Regards, -Zero 08:14, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Today's Wikien-l post

I saw your post today on Wikien-L, in the "admin problem" thread. While my first thought was "who is she and what has she done with Kelly Martin?", I have to say in all seriousness - thank you, that was an insightful and rather brave post, and I think you are correct that things will need to move in a more democratic/parlimentarian direction as the size and influence of Misplaced Pages grow, at least insofar as "big picture" issues such as the userbox thing are concerned. That is not to say that people who have no interest in contributing to the encyclopedia should be welcome, and I still think consensus should be the normal, or at least the default, operating procedure in article space. But for other matters, I think the direction you outlined is... not so much the best choice, as the only one that will remain realistic as Misplaced Pages moves forward. PurplePlatypus 04:00, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I think consensus should certainly be the goal in article space, and I think that, given that any given article will be edited by at most a dozen or so editors (someone generated stats on this that showed that some huge percentage of articles are edited by fewer than ten editors), consensus on any given article should be attainable. However, I think general policies regarding the encyclopedia and the community should be decided upon by a deliberative, parliamentary process, rather than by "rough consensus" (whatever the hell that is). Simply put, consensus does not scale. This is not to say I recommend raw democracy; parliamentarianism depends on reasoned discussion prior to voting, and that's not going to happen in pitched votes held without prior discussion. Kelly Martin (talk) 07:35, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm certainly not advocating pure democracy, nor did I take you to be doing so. Just some moves more or less in that direction, along with less WP:IAR and more WP:PI. PurplePlatypus 10:46, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

The Blocking of Dylon Martin

Disruption. There was none. Please give a better explanation for your blocking of Canadianism other than the alleged accusation he was causing a disruption. It has no support, and your claim has been undermined in several instances. Thus far, you have not illustrated any supporting evidence for your speedy, uninforming block of Dylon Martin. Эйрон Кинни (t) 01:44, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Please reply to my messages, it would be appreciated. Эйрон Кинни (t) 04:25, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

She doesn't reply to trolling. That's why She ignored your previous discussion. Please focus on something else and let it go. -Zero 06:27, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

If I was blocked without proper explaination I would take great offense to such actions and be very upset indeed, which is no doubt how Canadianism feels. He is an excellent contributor and we cannot afford to have administrators banning such people over trivial reasons. --robz0r 21:25, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

The Myth of Consensus

I appreciate your posting of the excerpt of consensus on Misplaced Pages:Consensus. I've been especially frustrated at how hard it is to delete garbage articles from Misplaced Pages, and consensus seems to be the worst way to deal with it. If someone invades your house and uses your toilet without your consent, at least you can flush. You can't do that here in Misplaced Pages. Everyone has to suffer from the smell of Misplaced Pages's clogged toilet. I'd rather have a unilateral decision on deletion proposals come down from a single administrator than have to deal with the numbskulls who want to keep tripe like Dirty Sanchez (sex), presumably because it's cool, or hip, or edgy. It just seems to me that two or three people who vote constantly to keep articles can override the wishes of a larger group, because of the automatic default to keep. I recently posted messages to several people who voted to keep Sexual Victimization of Native American Women, asking them to fix the article, but they wrote back to me about how much they resented me imposing my views on them. I didn't really care about what they thought personally, and I wasn't trying to impose my views, I was just trying to get a very bad article (which I didn't even vote on) fixed. In the time it took to write their comments on my user page, they could have fixed a sentence in that article, but they were more interested in telling me off instead. Voting to keep something you wouldn't be willing to work on if someone asked you to comes off as pretty hypocritical. This is probably going to keep being a problem for me, and it may make me want to quit working on the encyclopedia, because I don't want to be associated with a project that produces such shoddy work that stays shoddy because no one will do anything.

Thanks for letting me rant. Brian G. Crawford 01:02, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Java Port of Wikimedia Software

Hi Kelly,

First, I cheerfully acknowledge loss of the Cert War at Advogato. Despite even long stretches of the trust metric being broken or non calculated I have never successfully achieved certification as a master. I go now to post public capitulation at my diary at advogato.org.

I am interested in your java project porting Wikimedia to a Java environment . I have been studying Java sporadically and need a useful focus to my efforts to learn the language. I have little interest in the language for its own sake, I am more interested personally in possibilities implied by peer to peer distribtuted processing with free software components for entrepreneurs with little starting capital.

Do you have a mailing list or online documentation somewhere where I can review past activities or thoughts regarding your project?

Do you have a list of preferred tools (ArgoUML, Ant, etc.) or methods (object oriented, entensible, etc) that I should look over to get started?

If I might presume to make some suggestions .... there are at least a few other Java novices, users, or programmers who have started placing material at the Wikiversity or Wikibooks regarding software development with Java. It might be a worthwhile tradeoff to announce your project there and attract some assistance. Some of them might be interested in a Java version of Wikimedia since they are finding it useful or promising enough to interact at Wikiversity.

Perhaps some code walkthroughs and documentation or reverse engineering with final notes, results or efforts used to improve the Hacking Mediawiki at meta would be useful to getting some initial assistance from the wikitech mailing list. lol Maybe there are some people at wikitech that are tired of learning PHP but have learned enough to be helful? It would be a sign from God if such a person already knew Java well! 8)

If noisy disruptive neophytes is potentially detrimental to attracting high end hacker talent perhaps a two pronged approach could be devised. A learner's list (or portal pointing at the proper Java related pages at wikiversity or wikibooks) could focus on discussion and activities useful to learning Java, creating FDL lesson plans and examples, while possibly helping catch bugs, doing some testing, or trying out alternate ideas. I doubt that I would graduate to the hacker list. Indeed. My primary motivation to participating in the Java port project is to escape the necessary of becoming a PHP hacker to setup and run a reliable Wikimedia derived site for my own nefarious purposes.

I look forward to hearing from you regarding these matters.

Sincerely, mirwin, advogato journeyor

• michael_irwin@verizon.net
• en.wikibooks.org/user:lazyquasar

write up

Hey. I tried to get your attention on IRC... in the paragraph that starts out "Both Guanaco and Mark..." check to make sure that the sentence that starts "This situation was not so urgent..." says what you want it to... Tomer 01:32, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

I don't quite know how to say it, but I would like to thank you for your boldness and excellence in bringing up the recent RfArb case on "Guanaco, MarkSweep, et al". Well-done. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 05:13, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Looking for articles to work on?

Hello, Kelly Martin. I'm SuggestBot, a Misplaced Pages bot that helps new members contribute to Misplaced Pages. You might like to edit these articles I picked for you based on things you've edited in the past. Check it out -- I hope you find it useful. -- SuggestBot 16:50, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Reinstating Template:User CCW

Hi. I believe you deleted Template:User CCW which stated "This user carries a concealed weapon in their home state, and is licensed to do so." When you deleted it, your edit summary said it was divisive. I would like to ask you reinstate it and reconsider its deletion as I do not feel it is "divisive" in the sense that is being used to justify deletion of many POV userboxes. Template:User CCW doesn't express a point of view -- it simply tells something about the user, namely that they are licensed to carry a concealed weapon and do so on a regular basis. Thank you. Lawyer2b 01:26, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

The "information" provided by this template is not valuable to the process of writing an encyclopedia. Furthermore, the possession of concealed firearms is a controversial topic throughout the world. Given the combination of these two facts, it is my conclusion that this template offers no positive value to Misplaced Pages, while at the same time creating the risk of a division within Misplaced Pages. (I can see no practical reason for an editor to declare this other than to express a political point of view, which is a highly disfavored purpose of a user page.) As such, it should not be allowed to exist. There is no reason why Misplaced Pages needs to provide a generic "warning sticker" for people to put onto their user pages for the purpose of making this declaration. Note also that this userbox would not be permitted under the proposed userbox policy as it fails to be "of benefit to creating an encyclopaedia".

Having considered your request, I feel compelled to refuse to grant it. You may, of course, include within the personal details on your user page the statement that you elect to carry a concealed weapon (in whatever format appeals to you), although I would discourage you from doing so as such statement carries no significant interest to editors of the encyclopedia. I would instead suggest that you declare an interest in firearms or perhaps expert knowledge about firearms; such information would be of use to Wikipedians who need assistance in editing articles about firearms or related topics. Kelly Martin (talk) 04:10, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Guanaco, MarkSweep, et al

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Guanaco, MarkSweep, et al. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Guanaco, MarkSweep, et al/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Guanaco, MarkSweep, et al/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Johnleemk | Talk 16:48, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

A carnation

Checkuser backlog

On 10 January you wrote:

I'm not aware of a major backlog. The seven of us with the privilege are not overburdened so far as I know.

The situation seems to have changed since then: there are now 86 unresolved requests on RFCU, some of them going back six weeks to 25 Jan. I don't know what the right fix is - I'm just trying to bring the situation to the attention of all the relevant people. — ciphergoth 23:59, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Shes not doing any admin or checkuser actions "Note: If you are here to make a request for the use of CheckUser rights, please make it over on WP:RFCU instead, as I am not actively doing CheckUser requests anymore. Likewise, if you are here to request administrative assistance, please go to WP:AN instead as I am not actively doing administrative actions. Thank you for your cooperation." Mike _{(T C)} 00:36, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

It's interesting, isn't it...now there's a centralised place for it, the requests pile in. Of course, not all accusations of sockpuppetry need CheckUser intervention; not all can be resolved with it (CheckUser is a limited tool, and only one of many) and there's probably not sufficient reason to use it on about half those requests. Rob Church 18:57, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Okay

I will be more than happy not to revert the article as soon as you or another admin explains what is wrong with the revision I posted. How is editing an article to include sourced information from a New York Times article violating Misplaced Pages policy? Since Jimbo has cleared the article for editing, I don't see how my attempts at revising the article are in violation of the "office" protection policy, either. Thanks. Corax 02:23, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:Bots#Problems_with_Orphanbot

Please check. -- User:Docu

M&M's external link

Kelly, I noticed your tidy-up of this article. Can you get that 3rd external link to work? The one that points to the "m&mswiki"? I can't, but since I use a Mac with Safari browser, now and then things don't work for me. Joyous | Talk 04:46, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

No, and I've removed it as it's obviously invalid. Perhaps someone will provide the correct address in the future. Kelly Martin (talk) 04:47, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Bonnie and Clyde

Kelly Martin I had worked hard on that article, and wanted to thank you for the first rate clean up job you did. I felt you preserved my research and work, while wording it far better. Nice job, and thanks.old windy bear 19:23, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Dental Floss

Kelly, could you please advise why you deleted the reference to 'FlossFirst' in dental floss? Thank you.

I did not delete any such reference; all I did was correct some spelling errors and formatting issues. The edit you're looking for is this one, by anonymous user 199.88.72.4. Kelly Martin (talk) 12:28, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry Kelly, and thanks for the correction information. Very new to Wikis - Is there any way I can lock references to my product in, so my competitors can't delete it? Thanks.

Misplaced Pages is not a marketing resource. Your attempt to market your product was presumably deleted because it was deemed nonencyclopedic, not because one of your competitors deleted it. Kelly Martin (talk) 14:49, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

goodbye link

might not be QUITE right. it did not work for me anyway. Maybe this link instead: http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?GoodBye ?? (uppercase B in GoodBye) Normally I would just fix it... but... not sure where I stand with you. ++Lar: t/c 04:09, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, my bad, thanks for pointing it out. Kelly Martin (talk) 04:12, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

np... it is indeed a good read. (and yes, that was a veiled hint... where do I stand with you?) ++Lar: t/c 04:14, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Hate userboxes

I ask admins to pay attention to the nasty revert warring over a divisive hate templates entitled Template:User independent Chechnya and the fork Template:User Russian Chechnya. Please delete the apple of discord which claims energies of too many editors for constant revert warring. --Ghirla 16:46, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I do not understand why Template:User independent Chechnya and the fork Template:User Russian Chechnya are regarded hate boxes, while the others separatist vs unity movements are not. So please, restore these boxes or remove all the regional policy boxes. I do not hate anyone so I do feel offended when someone calls the userbox I am using "hatebox". I do not mind when someone puts the opposite thinking box. Regards and thank you in advance. Jasra 21:18, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Apparently when revert warring nears the end due to 3RR, the best way to cope with the problem is to ask some admin to come and delete... Too bad. However, given the trivial nature of Ghirlandajo's objections (and definite lack of consensus to delete), I'm thinking of recreating the template. Any ideas? //Halibutt 21:20, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

The nail which sticks up gets cut off. Kelly Martin (talk) 21:58, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, their deletion is seen by some (yours truly included) as both disruption of wikipedia and abuse of admin privileges. Does it mean that I should start threatening the admin to do it the way you did on my talk page? //Halibutt 22:27, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

The deletion of a userbox, virtually by definition, does not disrupt Misplaced Pages. Kelly Martin (talk) 22:33, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

But in practice, it does. It disrupts more than the people you block for disruption. --Candide, or Optimism 23:06, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Don't feed the trolls. --Ghirla 10:51, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Adrian Buehlmann

His response and his attempting to sidestep the issue. I've responded, and per your suggestion, will probably file an RfC within the next 24 hours.

(Sigh) Why the hell can't people be polite? Interestingly, spot this...I quote from Meatball's GoodBye page:

Finally, beware of the protracted reply. The "I'm leaving!" "No, I'm really leaving." "Well, let me just say, but then I'm leaving." The person is looking for something from the community and thus is extending his or her exit until it appears, and the longer you withhold it from them, the worse things will get.

Anyway, thanks Kelly. Rob Church 14:20, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I was about to leave. Then I saw AzaToth's admin candidacy, which I couldn't resist to vote. It was a last try to help protect {{qif}} as I think the inventor and template guru Carl would fit nicely for this job. qif is protected but it already happened that an admin broke it by error. Carl is very good and fast at fixing such things. He fixes things like this before others even notice. It would be a good idea to give him the sysop bit, at least until a MediaWiki conditional is available, as Brion agreed. Once again, we now have more than 100,000 pages depending on qif. If someone simply states that he doesn't care about that template, then I'm asking what admins are good for then if not for protecting things like qif. Assuming that Carl would abuse the sysop bit actually is assuming bad faith. And in this special case it might even be a violation of WP:POINT as qif is a delicate thing that must be taken care of. Due to the conflict with Rob Church on that RFA discussion, I then dicided to stay until that conflict with him is resolved. It's as simple as that. --Adrian Buehlmann 15:46, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

At what point did I state I believed he would abuse it? Rob Church 17:45, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

So, what is it that you're expecting from the community, then? It's obvious from your comments that you are "leaving" (as per the commentary at meatball:GoodBye) for the purpose of manipulating the community. So let's talk about this openly and honestly without all the nastiness. Just what is it that you want the community to do differently than it is currently doing? Kelly Martin (talk) 19:57, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

No, I have no intent to manipulate the community. To be honest: I am tired of the endless and fruitless discussions with and about Netoholic and how he games the system and wastes wikipedian-hours. His "thankless" work in destroying meta-templates by revert warring on the templates. But it might be that I was just a bit naive about how this wiki works. It also seems that my dealings with that matter might have altered my own behaviour here too. Seems like I somehow lost my default cool "assume good faith" glasses after having seen that much of fruitless battles (example: WP:AUM). Wikihate is contagious. --Adrian Buehlmann 21:08, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/DarrenRay and 2006BC

Hello,

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/DarrenRay and 2006BC. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/DarrenRay and 2006BC/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/DarrenRay and 2006BC/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Johnleemk | Talk 15:46, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

General cleanup with AWB

Hi Kelly,

I've noticed several editors using AWB for "general cleanup," such as removing lines between sections or bulleted lists. Is this a policy or guideline somewhere, or just a personal preference? Personally, I find the new, "improved" versions much harder to read when edititing articles. Regards, Rfrisbie 20:02, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

More AWB cleanups

The work AWB did on the article Westlock County, Alberta was mostly helpful and useful improvements (spelling, wording, etc.) Thanks for that help. However, adding commas to numbers with more than 3 places isn't helpful. Misplaced Pages has a policy that articles about a specific place be written in the national variety of English used in that place (see: Wikipedia_Manual_of_Style#National_varieties_of_English). In Canadian English a number with more than 3 places in separated by a space, not a comma. Please take this into account when using AWB to correct Canada-related articles. Thanks. Kevlar67 00:15, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

This is inconsistent with Misplaced Pages's expressed style policy on numbers. PLease see Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Numbers_2. I made those changes by hand because they are correct per the style policy. Kelly Martin (talk) 00:20, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, I guess we have two competing style policies. No worries, I'll just have to check some of the larger and older Canada-themed pages and see what they've done. Anyways, thanks for the other help. Kevlar67 00:26, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Okay, looks like even the article "Canada" uses the comma standard. My bad. Thanks anyway. Kevlar67

AWB-Cleanup at Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe

Can I undo your changes (spelling fixes, tidy, and general cleanup using AWB) and then add your corrections manually? The AWB deleted many empty rows which were added for formating purpose. Now the layout looks like squashed at some places in the bibliography section.Weapon X (de) 11:16, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I'll take a look at it. You should not be using blank lines for formatting purposes in most cases, so it's likely there's a misuse of markup issue there. Kelly Martin (talk) 15:14, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

What would be the alternative to blank lines? <br>-tags?

(Btw: I added the blank lines, until I know an alternative that is the standard in wikipedia.) Weapon X (de) 14:11, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Illinois

Have you ever heard Illinois, by Sufjan Stevens? Excellent music (one of my favorites this year); you might also appreciate the subject matter. OhNoitsJamie 05:00, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Backslash-apostrophes

Are we still to block backslash-apostrophe-ing IP addresses? -Splash 17:00, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Absolutely. Kelly Martin (talk) 17:02, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I think you wrote a template for this; could you remind me of it? -Splash 17:06, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

I found Template:CompromisedWebHost. -Splash 17:08, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

I've already blocked the entire /22 that that IP lives in; it's allocated to a hosting center. Kelly Martin (talk) 17:10, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Ah, right. Thanks. -Splash 17:13, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

On Leaving

Thanks for the quote & link. Helps to get a perspective on things. Guettarda 02:50, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Meatball should be required reading for every Wikipedian. Kelly Martin (talk) 02:51, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

The more I see of it the more I agree with that statement. Guettarda 22:07, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Okay

When I think of something more creative I'll vandalize your userpage again. (^_^)

--Dissolve&Decay 05:46, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Re:Prasi90, etc

I blocked the associated IP for a month...are these other editors (I didn't know Big boi oi was part of the same group) still editing now? I am on my way out and will not be getting back for 4-5 hours so I will check in with you then. Thank you for your concern in this matter.--MONGO 21:42, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Kelly for looking into things...any unblock you do is fine with me. Happy editing.--MONGO 02:00, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

American Mutoscope

Your post warning about legal threats on the talk page of the American Mutoscope & Biograph article was removed by user AMBC. I restored it. — Walloon 20:05, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

MediaWiki in Java?

Are you serious? -Ste|vertigo 07:51, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Template:User review

I have restored this template per the exception clause of the undeletion ploicy. This template has been deleted before as a T1 candidate, which has been contested at this DRV debate. The subsequent TFD debate produced a unanimous "keep" result. Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:46, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Neither TFD nor DRV has any clue what is best for Misplaced Pages, then. I'm not going to delete it again, but this is the wrong decision. Kelly Martin (talk) 12:12, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Why? I think the reasoning given explains why this is a useful template at the micro level. What is the macro level consideration that we're missing, that wasn't raised in the discussions as far as I can see, that justifies deletion? ++Lar: t/c 12:45, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Neither TFD nor DRV has any clue what is best for Misplaced Pages, then. I'm not going to delete it again, but this is the wrong decision.

Perhaps the most sensible comment I've heard in quite a while. Indeed; since when did wikipedia become a bloody MySpace..? -Zero 21:24, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Moo!

I've been meaning to give this to you for a while: For all your moo-tivational and moo-ving words in IRC, I hereby award you this Moo Star! Moojay 14:06, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

User:SPUI

My ban notice has the basic details, made under the probation which says:

• 10.2) SPUI's creation of a userbox that referred to previous incarnations of the pedophile userbox was purposely inflammatory. For attempting to aggravate the dispute in order to make a point, SPUI is banned from Misplaced Pages for 10 days. Additionally, he is placed on Misplaced Pages:Probation. After he finishes serving out his ban, administrators may ban him from any page he disrupts, and/or ban him from Misplaced Pages for up to a week for each provocative edit he makes. If, after two months, SPUI can demonstrate good behavior, he may appeal the probation.

My decision to ban resulted from a discussion here where SPUI went to moan after being warned on his talk page about incivility by MONGO.

The block log shows the sequence of admin actions. More of course on User talk:SPUI, User talk:HappyCamper and my talk page which is there-> --Tony Sidaway 14:18, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Backslash/apostrophe-inserting IP account

Hello,

I understand from reading Splash's talk page that IPs from which ensue backslash/apostrophe insertions are to be blocked. I came upon one when I went to look at User:Kotepho's page, and blocked it. I thought I'd alert you to it as you seem to be the resident expert on the matter, and may wish to perform some techno-wizadry on the IP range or something. ;-) Or even reverse the block, if I've erred. Regards —Encephalon 00:12, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

I am going to unlock Grue

If the fact that Sjakkale didn't discuss it with Nicholas was your concern, Kelly, I hope you won't mind me lifting the block, since I did ask Nicholas on his talk page to consider lifting it. He hasn't responded so if it's a question of 'discussion' the ball is in his court. Consensus on AN/I seems to be behind Sjakkale and me that 48 hours is too long. (Copied to Grue's talk page, Nicholas' talk page and AN/I so all bases are covered. Please reply on AN/I if anywhere rather than forking it further.) --Sam Blanning (SQUIDWARD!!!) 20:41, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

My disapproval of Sjakkale's action was based on his unblocking without even notifying the blocking admin. I don't object, in principle, to unblocking Grue, although personally I think Misplaced Pages would not be harmed in the long run by disinviting Grue. Kelly Martin (talk) 20:44, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Abusive User

1. 07:22, 2 April 2006 Kelly Martin blocked "76.160.0.0/16 (contribs)" with an expiry time of 1 hour (Repeat range block of abusive user User:Blu Aardvark's ISP. Apologies to anyone affected by collateral damage.)
2. 07:22, 2 April 2006 Kelly Martin blocked "76.160.0.0/24 (contribs)" with an expiry time of 1 hour (Repeat range block of abusive user User:Blu Aardvark's ISP. Apologies to anyone affected by collateral damage.)

Blu Aardvark says, "Raul, SlimVirgin, Jayjg, Malber, and Grace Note are trolls"

Kelly Martin says, "Screw process"

Pleas to be blocking your own IP. --72.160.73.242 08:39, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Did you decide?

On Pokemon move: hydro cannon, I noticed that you deleted the RFD ntoice and replaced it with the redirect. Did you decide that the redirect was important and necessary to mantain or what? The discussion on RFD has not been archived or anything... - Hbdragon88 06:09, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

No, I just forgot to finish what I'd started. Silly me. Kelly Martin (talk) 06:54, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

User:All in

How do you know my IP? I'm willing to discuss the issue you raised. How do you suggest we go about talking about this in private? --All in 14:40, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Opinion?

Could you do me a favour, please. Check the revision history of Republic of Macedonia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and give me your opinion. I think there's more sockpuppetry there than in all other article put together - it's blatantly obvious. What do you think I should do? Edwy 23:58, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Blank and protect

Please blank and protect my user page and my user talk page, and that of my admitted, non-abusive sockpuppet Hpuppet, as I have left the project. Thank you. Hipocrite - «Talk» 03:25, 4 April 2006 (UTC)